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Cruthensis
Gallente Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.03.04 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne "JihadSwarm" is cultural insensitive if you are feeling charitable, and racist if you just take it for what it is.
Please explain to everyone how the term "JihadSwarm" could possibly be "racist". It is clearly derived from and a comedic parody of the word "Jihad".
This word's origin is Islamic. Islam (last time I looked) is a religion - a system of beliefs and ideas about the world, the creator of the universe, how we should live, etc, etc.
A "race" would denote a distinct population of people similar in skin colour and/or other physical attributes and often concentrated in, or ancestrally 'from' a particular geographical area.
So to sum up for the slow-witted: Religion: collection of ideas and beliefs Race: physical attributes and geographic heritage of people
You could argue of course that Islam does have a geographic heritage - it was born of a particular place and time. However, by it's own founding texts and ambitions of its proponents, it actively transcends this by spreading far and wide.
Please educate us Karlemgne on how "JihadSwarm" - a term which is clearly a parody of a religious word - is racist.
1. Buy Vexor 2. Fit for Gank 3. Suicide ISK farmer 4. Grind sec 5. see 1. |

Silentium Newgate
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Posted - 2008.03.04 08:07:00 -
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This thread makes me think about what it would be like to be 40 years old and still living in the basement of one's parent's home. Seriously, I think someone needs to lighten up, if not to make an attempt at being original. This topic makes me find the colonics infomercial currently infecting my television interesting.
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Yggdrassill Yeltsin
The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.04 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: Silentium Newgate This thread makes me think about what it would be like to be 40 years old and still living in the basement of one's parent's home. Seriously, I think someone needs to lighten up, if not to make an attempt at being original. This topic makes me find the colonics infomercial currently infecting my television interesting.
I can't tell which side this infidel's post is so poorly attempting to insult.
ساندويتش لحم الشواء, Mullah Yeltsin
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Windjammer
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:00:00 -
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God, I hate organized religion and the fanatics it breeds. 
Certainly seems like CCP could do something here. Let's see...... 1)Stop paying out insurance for ships lost in suicide ganks. 2)Beef up Concord so they can actually do something. 3)Move ice back to 0.8 and....oh yeah...see #2. 4)Disband a group that has flat out said they want to break the game. I'm sure there's something in the EULA about not causing harm to CCP and breaking the game certainly would.
Also......isn't reference to real life religions, politics, etc. against the forum rules, user agreement and all that? I can't help but think there are some Moslems out there who might be a little ticked about the overt references here from some guy claiming he's a prophet. Kidding or not some of the religions have a very poor sense of humor about this sort of thing.
Regards, Windjammer
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:05:00 -
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Edited by: Sturmwolke on 04/03/2008 09:13:32
Step 1 - Strike fear to the rats. Kill and poison their food. Step 2 - Allow the rats to escape to a safe haven Step 3- IF "Profitable" GOTO Step 3a ELSE Nuke em  Step 3a - Demand king's ransom GOTO Step 4 Step 4 - IF ["Reds"=NOTHurt] OR ["Goon"=SuicideStillFun] GOTO Step 1 Step 5 - Rename alliance "Goonswarm Greater Conglomerate [MEGOD]" Step 6 - Lay plans to annex or PETify the galactic West and North
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:27:00 -
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ITS A TRAP!
C.
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Higgs Foton
Die industries
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: karttoon Edited by: karttoon on 04/03/2008 02:42:35 I am now surrendering Minmitar space as unholy land.
This means Minmatar space is now something like Mordor or something? I like that. :) We will sacrifice ice we stole from the ISK farmers to the dark lord using the POS or the local market as altars. Darkness is eternal! Hail Satan!  ___________________________________
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NoMore Idols
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Posted - 2008.03.04 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: NoMore Idols on 04/03/2008 09:33:11
Originally by: Cruthensis
Please explain to everyone how the term "JihadSwarm" could possibly be "racist". It is clearly derived from and a comedic parody of the word "Jihad".
It's not just racist. It's an affront to every rational thinking being. It tells tales about believers, their idols and their mental state, that they don't seem to understand this without explanation.
I, as a freedom and liberty loving true Minmatar citizen, declare any statement regarding Minmatar Repblic, that includes words which reference any kind of dubios belief systems as utter crap.
I'm sorry for those people who obviously need an idol to pray upon in order to live their life. I'm afraid of people that rely on spooky "holy words" as their moral grounds. And I will never ever accept that any of those fairytales are mentioned in reference to our free Minmatar Republic.
Minmatars of New Eden, repeat after me: "Bet ya life, I don't religions!"  |

Kyoto Luyi
MX3 Development Zzz
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Posted - 2008.03.04 10:44:00 -
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Goonswarm are attention seekers who's aim in life is to upset other players and then laugh among themselves at the reactions they provoke.
The vast majority of EvE players laugh at them rather than with them.
Translation for Goons: "Nobody Cares" 
In the event that they upset enough people (which is of course their aim), the devs have the following provision in place:
Eve official page on Grief Play
Quote: A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players. This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.
kkthxzomgwtfbbqpwnbye... -- The views or opinions I express are solely my own and do not reflect those of my Corporation or Alliance.. Oh, and I'm NOT allowed in CAOD either :) |

brainball
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.04 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cruthensis
Originally by: Karlemgne "JihadSwarm" is cultural insensitive if you are feeling charitable, and racist if you just take it for what it is.
Please explain to everyone how the term "JihadSwarm" could possibly be "racist". It is clearly derived from and a comedic parody of the word "Jihad".
This word's origin is Islamic. Islam (last time I looked) is a religion - a system of beliefs and ideas about the world, the creator of the universe, how we should live, etc, etc.
A "race" would denote a distinct population of people similar in skin colour and/or other physical attributes and often concentrated in, or ancestrally 'from' a particular geographical area.
So to sum up for the slow-witted: Religion: collection of ideas and beliefs Race: physical attributes and geographic heritage of people
You could argue of course that Islam does have a geographic heritage - it was born of a particular place and time. However, by it's own founding texts and ambitions of its proponents, it actively transcends this by spreading far and wide.
Please educate us Karlemgne on how "JihadSwarm" - a term which is clearly a parody of a religious word - is racist.
Even worse jihad is actually an arabic word used by the islamic religion, the word itself means "to strive" or "to struggle".
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R0ot
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.04 11:32:00 -
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Time to start inventing hulks ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Falka Lakadaka
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.04 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: R0ot Time to start inventing hulks
I agree - now is not the time to agree with or oppose the Goons and their tactics. Now is the time to adapt and survive.
Cheers Falka
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Fourty Niner
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Posted - 2008.03.04 12:06:00 -
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Edited by: Fourty Niner on 04/03/2008 12:07:01 How DARE you say that my home is less deserving of your efforts based on the premise THAT IS TOO unclean.
As the only major differance is that the Minmitar live here, the inferance is that WE are unclean.
I was disinterested in either your crusade againt miners or you stupid struggle in the backwaters of space that is 0.0
Now though, until you revoke this statement about the uncleanslyness of Minmitar Space, I will do my upmost to interfer with your plans. AS I HOPE all true Minmitar pob pilots will
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umop 3pisdn
Minmatar Fnck the blob.
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Posted - 2008.03.04 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: umop 3pisdn on 04/03/2008 12:33:14
Originally by: Karlemgne Not only is goonswarm composed of asshats, but apparently they're also racists. "JihadSwarm" is cultural insensitive if you are feeling charitable, and racist if you just take it for what it is.
This isn't a big surprise though after the whole MC = Jews awhile back.
Seriously, CCP. Why hasn't something been done about goonswarm yet? The subscription income can't be worth them sullying your game with their racist drivel and overt attacks on your company, and this community.
So you're saying Islam is a race now? Or extremist Islam is a race? Enlighten me? And get over yourself, being politically correct in a game is ridiculous.
btw we should like toast those achura or something they are subhuman at best
Edit: oh wow people have already quoted you and pointed out the flaws in your argument hot damn im going to start a crusade in response to this jihad and we'll see if anyone bats a PC eyelid
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Celestal
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Posted - 2008.03.04 12:32:00 -
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LOL you realy do have to laugh at pubbie goons , like the op , trying to role play . This should be moved to out of pod experience forum even though i rate this attempt at 1/10 for role play .
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Nasta443
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Nasta443 on 04/03/2008 13:17:00
Originally by: Celestal LOL you realy do have to laugh at pubbie goons , like the op , trying to role play . This should be moved to out of pod experience forum even though i rate this attempt at 1/10 for role play .
What are you some kind of role*** expert? done it much?
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Navtiqes
Mute Troop
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:20:00 -
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..I wish I could stay away from flamable topics like this. Sorry in advance for repeating myself, but last time I tried replying diplomatically and state the following; the whole thread disappeared, which was probably for the best considering its original post. Anyway.
The term "race" may cover cultures, religious belief, nationality and skintone.
Jihad is as stated before, just another word for struggle, and a holy jihad is exactly the same as a crusade. None gets in trouble for saying they're on a crusade, so suck it up and let the clowns be on their jihad. It's just a word. Any bad associations to it are from personal frames of references and not inherent definition. The more often clowns like this use words like that, the less power those words have, which is probably for the better if you felt it had any power in the first place.
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Dianeces
Minmatar Repo Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.04 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Celestal LOL you realy do have to laugh at pubbie goons , like the op , trying to role play . This should be moved to out of pod experience forum even though i rate this attempt at 1/10 for role play .
You do realize you're the pubbie, right?
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