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Julian Shran Amarr Vengeance of the Fallen CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:31:00 - [1] Edited by: Julian Shran on 04/03/2008 18:36:16 Posted - 2008.03.04 18:19:56 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally by: duckmonster -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by: duckmonster on 03/03/2008 16:10:30 Goons already have a stupidly large capship fleet (and use it frontline), plenty of T2 , and more than enough "rich goons". Not sure what your getting at. Also BOB's ferrogel chains lol. edit: When was the last time you actually saw goonfleet in action -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the one I love, maybe 250 rich Goons? What about the other thousands of pilots that are broke? I gotta admit this is exactly like BoB and you claim to be better than that? I doubt it as you, in addition, orchestrate to destroy other allies to get at their moons. All just to benefit your small leadership and cap savvy pilots... Seriously at what point do the younger pilots in EVE (under 10 mil SP) become worth anything other than fodder for the Rich Goons that they fight along side? Weren't the original Goons fighting just that kind of hippocracy? It seems that Goons have become what they claim to hate and it will be your downfall. Like BoB you will be forced back into a small place and start changing the definitons of victory to suit your brittle ego. Like BoB you have become bloated with a great disparity between the haves and have nots. The propaganda you speak of has nothing to do with BoB, it has to do with your own actions the covert operations meant to undermine other alliances, the broken promises, the moons and other resources demanded to line your pockets. Goons have created an Oligarchy and wonder why as they continue to succeed against BoB, they are getting a bad rep. Simply put, your ARE the beast we all fight against. Those that will attempt to take all, and cannot seem to understand all the "phat lewts" are not yours for the taking. Simple respect of anothers sovern space would go a long way and not just the respect of those who can fight you back if pressed. Goons need to remember how small they once were... I hope the truth hurts.
Naj Rebueller GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:32:00 - [2] look at all those words
Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:40:00 - [3] Originally by: Julian Shran Weren't the original Goons fighting just that kind of hippocracy? We are still very much so fighting the good fight against hippos.
Althair Erin Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:40:00 - [4] Terminal case of not getting GoonSwarm. For your benefit, I will just say that the outpouring of love and support both financial and logistical for our newbees is one of the most charming aspects of this great alliance. -------------- The Hope of the younger generation Come help build a better, more civil EVE!
Jonis Sinmaker Dead Hooker Industries G Thanks Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:42:00 - [5] Edited by: Jonis Sinmaker on 04/03/2008 18:43:46 The only cause that goons fight for is the cause of **ing other people off. Ask any goon and they will tell you the same...hell ask Sesfan he even stated that very fact on several occassions and to a few gamer magazines iirc. Once BoB is gone they will find some other way to cause hate and discontent and laugh about it on their forums about how bad they ed other people off. If there isn't something for them to feed off of to ** people off than they create the situtation themselves. Do some research and look at any other game that Goons infest and you will see the same. Their game is not the same as ours. Their game is to ruin your game. Go read the SA forums and you will understand. Now take a look at the history of eve and realize that every group of pilots that fights against the "mainstream oppressors" becomes themselves that same force they fought against at the beginning. Power corrupts... -------- Semper Fi, Jonis Sinmaker
Desiderata Fabian GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Julian Shran I hope the truth hurts. What the hell are you even on about?
Karonas GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:48:00 - [7] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. ~Saint
WilWheaton GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:49:00 - [8] its me, im the opressed goon newbie in da op snip Signature removed and locked. Email us if you want it unlocked. -Ivan K
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:54:00 - [9] Damn those stingy goonies with their 0% lones to newbies for their first BS to rat with, and all those free frigates and cruisers to suicide into HACS. Dont even get me started on the reinburstment programs.
Julian Shran Amarr Vengeance of the Fallen CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:01:00 - [10] Edited by: Julian Shran on 04/03/2008 19:02:59 Originally by: Yorda Damn those stingy goonies with their 0% lones to newbies for their first BS to rat with, and all those free frigates and cruisers to suicide into HACS. Dont even get me started on the reinburstment programs. What I am on about (for those that asked) is that Goons are complaining that the "BoB propoganda machine" is somehow responsible for the recent bad press they have gotten. It is not true, it is the Goon mantra of "MINE!!!" that has caused it. As for the "Generousity" of Goons to nubs, if you need bodies to throw at HACS then you need to give them cheap free ships... Oh and loans for what Goons stole from others through threat of force? That is like me mugging someone then "loaning" it at "no interest" to my buddy to buy a car I know will be wrecked in a demolition derby that I arranged... then my buddy now owes me for this car and he needs another for ... behold another derby I set up... Hmmm, seems like a version of extortion to me... Indentured servitude is slavery also... Again, I hope the truth hurts.

Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Julian Shran Edited by: Julian Shran on 04/03/2008 19:02:59 Originally by: Yorda Damn those stingy goonies with their 0% lones to newbies for their first BS to rat with, and all those free frigates and cruisers to suicide into HACS. Dont even get me started on the reinburstment programs. What I am on about (for those that asked) is that Goons are complaining that the "BoB propoganda machine" is somehow responsible for the recent bad press they have gotten. It is not true, it is the Goon mantra of "MINE!!!" that has caused it. As for the "Generousity" of Goons to nubs, if you need bodies to throw at HACS then you need to give them cheap free ships... Oh and loans for what Goons stole from others through threat of force? That is like me mugging someone then "loaning" it at "no interest" to my buddy to buy a car I know will be wrecked in a demolition derby that I arranged... then my buddy now owes me for this car and he needs another for ... behold another derby I set up... Hmmm, seems like a version of extortion to me... Indentured servitude is slavery also... Again, I hope the truth hurts. what the hell extortion? slavery? is this some kind of elaborate troll cause oh man
Desiderata Fabian GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Julian Shran What I am on about (for those that asked) is that Goons are complaining that the "BoB propoganda machine" is somehow responsible for the recent bad press they have gotten. Zinrix always gets his.
Tellenta Gallente White-Noise	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:10:00 - [13] Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their roots Goon's vs. pubbies <everyone else> Drawing from that anything halariously cruel that they do to blues, neutrals, reds, or themselves is in fact drawing from their roots? Just sayin
Inflexible Shokei	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Julian Shran ...kind of hippocracy? I hope the truth hurts. Wait... they are ruled by horses or what?
Zizzyx GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:55:00 - [15] Originally by: Julian Shran What I am on about (for those that asked) is that Goons are complaining that the "BoB propoganda machine" is somehow responsible for the recent bad press they have gotten. It is not true, it is the Goon mantra of "MINE!!!" that has caused it. As for the "Generousity" of Goons to nubs, if you need bodies to throw at HACS then you need to give them cheap free ships... Oh and loans for what Goons stole from others through threat of force? That is like me mugging someone then "loaning" it at "no interest" to my buddy to buy a car I know will be wrecked in a demolition derby that I arranged... then my buddy now owes me for this car and he needs another for ... behold another derby I set up... Hmmm, seems like a version of extortion to me... Indentured servitude is slavery also... Again, I hope the truth hurts. Read -> Comprehend -> Post Loans are for ratting battleships, which are used to make money to pay back loans, whereas newbie combat ships are given out for free through our various new bee programs. Although I guess it must suck not being in an alliance that will give you 100 free ships to go get killed in. I can see how you would be bitter.
Brmble Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:59:00 - [16] Originally by: Julian Shran Edited by: Julian Shran on 04/03/2008 19:02:59 Originally by: Yorda Damn those stingy goonies with their 0% lones to newbies for their first BS to rat with, and all those free frigates and cruisers to suicide into HACS. Dont even get me started on the reinburstment programs. What I am on about (for those that asked) is that Goons are complaining that the "BoB propoganda machine" is somehow responsible for the recent bad press they have gotten. It is not true, it is the Goon mantra of "MINE!!!" that has caused it. As for the "Generousity" of Goons to nubs, if you need bodies to throw at HACS then you need to give them cheap free ships... Oh and loans for what Goons stole from others through threat of force? That is like me mugging someone then "loaning" it at "no interest" to my buddy to buy a car I know will be wrecked in a demolition derby that I arranged... then my buddy now owes me for this car and he needs another for ... behold another derby I set up... Hmmm, seems like a version of extortion to me... Indentured servitude is slavery also... Again, I hope the truth hurts. can you please stop constructing strawmen and argue his points? it's almost like you want to lose your argument... ~ no not believin in urself ~
Julian Shran Amarr Vengeance of the Fallen CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.03.04 20:19:00 - [17] Edited by: Julian Shran on 04/03/2008 20:19:16 Originally by: Inflexible Originally by: Julian Shran ...kind of hippocracy? I hope the truth hurts. Wait... they are ruled by horses or what? Yes Hippocracy, not Hypocrisy because Goons do not have any posted code of honor or ethics. Hell they barely have a direction other than "kill BoB". It is short for 'hippopotamocracy', "rule by hippopotami" ("river horses" in Greek), and refers to what are otherwise known as "fat cats". The above was what I was referring to as in rule by "fat cats" Gotta give you credit though, no Goon noticed the innuendo...
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.03.04 20:21:00 - [18] Originally by: Julian Shran "MINE!!!" Personal Library
Desiderata Fabian GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 20:23:00 - [19] Originally by: Julian Shran Edited by: Julian Shran on 04/03/2008 20:19:16 Originally by: Inflexible Originally by: Julian Shran ...kind of hippocracy? I hope the truth hurts. Wait... they are ruled by horses or what? Yes Hippocracy, not Hypocrisy because Goons do not have any posted code of honor or ethics. Hell they barely have a direction other than "kill BoB". It is short for 'hippopotamocracy', "rule by hippopotami" ("river horses" in Greek), and refers to what are otherwise known as "fat cats". The above was what I was referring to as in rule by "fat cats" Gotta give you credit though, no Goon noticed the innuendo... Well done, you totally got away with that. Damn you are a smart one.
Inflexible Shokei	Posted - 2008.03.04 20:28:00 - [20] Originally by: Julian Shran Hypocrisy Congrats on successful edit . Now you are one of the few who can spell it correctly.

Hrin Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 21:01:00 - [21] NO BLOOD FOR FERROGEL
Garregus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 21:02:00 - [22] every time im down i just come read caod and man do i feel better
Xerpex Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 21:25:00 - [23] Originally by: Garregus every time im down i just come read caod and man do i feel better Yeah.
Nero Winger Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.04 21:37:00 - [24] talking about goons and mentioning BoB more then goons in the monologe.... hmmm.... flaimbait?
Thomina Yorke GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 21:38:00 - [25] Originally by: Hrin NO BLOOD FOR FERROGEL we must RISE UP against our oppressive Alliance overlords
Civrax GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 21:39:00 - [26] Oh snap, watch out: I hear Empire Pubbies, Alts and our enemies know more about us and their posts about our truths will certainly tear the very foundation of our alliance out from under us... ...or we could just laugh at you, it is also a viable answer to the current thread.
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 21:47:00 - [27] Originally by: Hrin NO BLOOD FOR FERROGEL i invented this phrase when mike takumi got banned that one time true story
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 21:50:00 - [28] free firstname lastname power to the people!
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 22:14:00 - [29] Originally by: Jamus Drakkon Originally by: Civrax Oh snap, watch out: I hear Empire Pubbies, Alts and our enemies know more about us and their posts about our truths will certainly tear the very foundation of our alliance out from under us... ...or we could just laugh at you, it is also a viable answer to the current thread. There is where you are wrong, I have been in two alliances now that the Goons screwed over. These alliances were +10 BLUE allies not just NAP'd allies and in both instances they did not uphold their promise of aid when sovern systems were being seiged and in both instances Goons took actions that were the deciding factor in laying waste the the defensive ability of said alliances. One was political turning and back alley deals to get the alliance wrecked and the other was overt treason to the multi alliance defense. I was not an enemy until the second, I wrote off the first as an honest mistake despite the evidence given to me at the time. The second was full of evidence also. This time I understood what it is to be an "ally" to the Goonswarm. guessing votf
Minbiry Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.04 22:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Junkie Beverage Originally by: Jamus Drakkon blahblhabblhab guessing votf JB are you getting the fc training in 4 thread beneath this



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