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SleepingBuddah	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:02:00 - [1] I think it would be fun it the outlaws could live in 0.5 It means CONCORD will response on criminal agression, but Navy should not KOS the outlaw. 0.6 and higher works fine now, but 0.5 is like 'border' security between lowsec and highsec and outlaws should be allowed there.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:05:00 - [2] I love you for this thread. Concord response and no faction police? Sounds pretty good to me. As a lot of people would just see me flashing away and scream "Fire ze missiles!!" and that = more pew pew. /Signed ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:07:00 - [3] But you still wouldn't be allowed to pewpew anyone yourself so what's the point? Oh I get it, you want somewhere to hide where you can go AFK without getting wasted by another pirate.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:09:00 - [4] Originally by: Dirk Magnum But you still wouldn't be allowed to pewpew anyone yourself so what's the point? Oh I get it, you want somewhere to hide where you can go AFK without getting wasted by another pirate. Uhh... -10 means I can get wasted anywhere. Fail ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
SleepingBuddah	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:10:00 - [5] Originally by: Dirk Magnum But you still wouldn't be allowed to pewpew anyone yourself so what's the point? Oh I get it, you want somewhere to hide where you can go AFK without getting wasted by another pirate. The point is to get more pew-pew. Everyone can shoot outlaw, and it should be more fun!
AndrewRyan	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:12:00 - [6] Its so they can get to the better markets to buy stuff without having to mess around with alts. ========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:15:00 - [7] Basically what andrewryan just said...nobody likes to haul into lowsec, but this would give some people at least a few options (and reduce the need for an alt for solo outlaws) ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Tandori Tanaka Tanaka Stuff and Supplies	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:19:00 - [8] This idea rocks ! /signed
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:19:00 - [9] I'd rather see: -Option to buy a "day pass" for travel through hisec. I can still be attacked by anyone (me being outlaw) and can only return fire if engaged without insta-pop by Concord. This is mainly for quick movement through empire. -A use for that stupid hack skill beyond NPC exploration. Let me turn off sentries....or plot a route through hisec and disable Concord for x period of time. Yeah . I'd also like a pony please. "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
X99 Z990	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:19:00 - [10] I can imagine there being anti outlaw camps in 0.5 as regular as pirate camps. Would give me a chance to fly light ships i cant really use anymore. I.E vagabond/curse/small ships due to sentry fire. Something to consider, might affect far more things than expected though.

Xtreem Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:24:00 - [11] I think all outlaws should be aloud in high sec full stop, but obviously they flash red and can be shot by everyone, so the risk of that alone would be enough reason why it should be ok :)
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:26:00 - [12] Originally by: Xtreem I think all outlaws should be aloud in high sec full stop, but obviously they flash red and can be shot by everyone, so the risk of that alone would be enough reason why it should be ok :) With the current amount of suicide ganks... it wouldn't be much of a change to let us -10s fly around free ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
SleepingBuddah	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Xtreem I think all outlaws should be aloud in high sec full stop, but obviously they flash red and can be shot by everyone, so the risk of that alone would be enough reason why it should be ok :) No, I suggest only 0.5 (and lower) for outlaws. Flashy reds should not mess with rookie systems. Currently we have 6 highsec securities and 5 lowsec/nosec. It would be logical if there would be a border security, not fully highsec and not lowsec. 0.5 is very good for it.
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:37:00 - [14] Nah. EvE is a harsh unforgiving game remember? Part of that harshness is having to deal with sec status and the consequences of having a low one.
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.03.07 10:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Hasak Rain Nah. EvE is a harsh unforgiving game remember? Part of that harshness is having to deal with sec status and the consequences of having a low one. Yeah. The horrible consequences of sec status are that you have to stare at an alt while hauling which cannot be fired upon w/out getting sentry aggro (in low-sec) or concordokken (in high-sec), while the imbalanced proposal suggests that pirates should be allowed in border systems where they can't possibly shoot first without concord insta-bbq, but can be shot at by everyone (and you can't respond if someone fires on your corpmates either), which would be unfairly reducing the consequences of sec status. Oh, wait Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:00:00 - [16] Originally by: X99 Z990 I can imagine there being anti outlaw camps in 0.5 as regular as pirate camps. Yes, antipirates would finally be able to fight on equal and fair terms with concord omgwtfpwning any outlaw engaging a non-agressed target.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:10:00 - [17] Can you use shuttles or other fast ships still in high-sec without being insta-scrammed by faction police? If so, then nothing needs to be changed. If not, ignore the above comment
Mostly Amazing Gallente Mostly Amazing Corp	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:10:00 - [18] I love you. This is the best idea ever :):):) -------------- I R Not Completely Amazing, But I R Mostly Amazing
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:12:00 - [19] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Hasak Rain Nah. EvE is a harsh unforgiving game remember? Part of that harshness is having to deal with sec status and the consequences of having a low one. Yeah. The horrible consequences of sec status are that you have to stare at an alt while hauling which cannot be fired upon w/out getting sentry aggro (in low-sec) or concordokken (in high-sec), while the imbalanced proposal suggests that pirates should be allowed in border systems where they can't possibly shoot first without concord insta-bbq, but can be shot at by everyone (and you can't respond if someone fires on your corpmates either), which would be unfairly reducing the consequences of sec status. Oh, wait I sympathize with anyone who has to use an alt to move thing to and from Empire because of sec status but it is no different than when the gatecampers tell "Mr. Soloer" to use an alt to go through those gates into 0.0 or Null or else risk getting ganked. Ot how about "get some friends?" I am constantly seen posts of people telling others to get some friends to check the gate so why can't you get friends to haul into Empire for you? Sorry but the sword cuts both ways. Adapt or die. Asking for the sec status mechanics to be changed for you is like a an empire dweller asking for free safe passes into 0.0.
Krycka Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:17:00 - [20] I like this idea, will still be risky for pirates, and fun to try and catch them. Med ett shysst jSrnr÷r kan man sls hela vSrlden med hSpnad!

Jack Brazen Blue. Blue Federation	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:31:00 - [21] Anything that encourages general chaos and pew pew gets my approval. And the change you suggest wouldn't make it more dangerous for people in 0.5, unless they are outlaws, in which case it becomes slightly more risky, but a whole lot more convenient - much like high sec players moving into low-sec to shorten a trip. So yes, I applaud the idea. If this turns 0.5 systems into battlegrounds between pirates and anti-pirates, and maybe encourages unexperienced PvP'ers to give it a shot there, I'd be delighted with the changes. Basically, I think you could sum it up like this: Carebear in high-sec? Don't worry. Just keep mining those roids. Outlaw? Welcome to high-sec - watch your back. Awesome. Might even get me to let my sec status drop. ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight.
Grunanca BLACK-FLAG	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Hasak Rain Edited by: Hasak Rain on 07/03/2008 11:30:59 Edited by: Hasak Rain on 07/03/2008 11:30:15 Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Hasak Rain Nah. EvE is a harsh unforgiving game remember? Part of that harshness is having to deal with sec status and the consequences of having a low one. Yeah. The horrible consequences of sec status are that you have to stare at an alt while hauling which cannot be fired upon w/out getting sentry aggro (in low-sec) or concordokken (in high-sec), while the imbalanced proposal suggests that pirates should be allowed in border systems where they can't possibly shoot first without concord insta-bbq, but can be shot at by everyone (and you can't respond if someone fires on your corpmates either), which would be unfairly reducing the consequences of sec status. Oh, wait I sympathize with anyone who has to use an alt to move things to and from Empire because of sec status but it is no different than when the gatecampers tell "Mr. Soloer" to use an alt to go through those gates into Low sec or Null or else risk getting ganked. Or how about "get some friends?" I am constantly seen posts of people telling others to get some friends to check the gate so why can't you get friends to haul into Empire for you? Sorry but the sword cuts both ways. Adapt or die. Asking for the sec status mechanics to be changed for you is like a an empire dweller asking for free safe passes into 0.0. So anyone being able to attack me in 0.5 is the same as safe pass into 0.0? Im sorry, but your logic is something I fail to understand. Logic would be to let sentry guns attack carebears in low sec as they are in outlaw space, just like sentry guns will attack pirates in high sec. That is what would make it equal for both sides. Of course this would be completely wack, so lets just stay at the idea with allowing pirates into high sec while they still flash.
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:47:00 - [23] Edited by: Hasak Rain on 07/03/2008 11:49:00 Originally by: Grunanca Originally by: Hasak Rain Edited by: Hasak Rain on 07/03/2008 11:30:59 Edited by: Hasak Rain on 07/03/2008 11:30:15 Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Hasak Rain Nah. EvE is a harsh unforgiving game remember? Part of that harshness is having to deal with sec status and the consequences of having a low one. Yeah. The horrible consequences of sec status are that you have to stare at an alt while hauling which cannot be fired upon w/out getting sentry aggro (in low-sec) or concordokken (in high-sec), while the imbalanced proposal suggests that pirates should be allowed in border systems where they can't possibly shoot first without concord insta-bbq, but can be shot at by everyone (and you can't respond if someone fires on your corpmates either), which would be unfairly reducing the consequences of sec status. Oh, wait I sympathize with anyone who has to use an alt to move things to and from Empire because of sec status but it is no different than when the gatecampers tell "Mr. Soloer" to use an alt to go through those gates into Low sec or Null or else risk getting ganked. Or how about "get some friends?" I am constantly seen posts of people telling others to get some friends to check the gate so why can't you get friends to haul into Empire for you? Sorry but the sword cuts both ways. Adapt or die. Asking for the sec status mechanics to be changed for you is like a an empire dweller asking for free safe passes into 0.0. So anyone being able to attack me in 0.5 is the same as safe pass into 0.0? Im sorry, but your logic is something I fail to understand. Logic would be to let sentry guns attack carebears in low sec as they are in outlaw space, just like sentry guns will attack pirates in high sec. That is what would make it equal for both sides. Of course this would be completely wack, so lets just stay at the idea with allowing pirates into high sec while they still flash. No the idea itself isn't the same but the fact that you want something which makes EvE harsh to be watered down makes you no different than... say... a carebear whining about how Sentry guns need to be stronger in low sec. Carebears are told here everyday that "EvE is a harsh game" and that should go for everyone. Why should your playstyle be catered to and made more convenient? Tell you what. The day they let me scan the other side of a gate is when you can have this idea put in. Deal?
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Grunanca So anyone being able to attack me in 0.5 is the same as safe pass into 0.0? Im sorry, but your logic is something I fail to understand. Logic would be to let sentry guns attack carebears in low sec as they are in outlaw space, just like sentry guns will attack pirates in high sec. That is what would make it equal for both sides. Of course this would be completely wack, so lets just stay at the idea with allowing pirates into high sec while they still flash. Then there needs to be more serious consequences for lower sec status. Because as you know, once you get to -10 there's nothing stopping you from suiciding people as there is no more risk of sec status loss. Whether CONCORD is "good enough" is debateable, but you will need to try pretty hard to convince CCP of it because this idea pretty much throws their sec status system out the window.
Nova Fox Gallente	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:49:00 - [25] if this happens 0.5 woudl empty out and become another low sec space nobody would bother with, if you want a better idea check my idea in my sig. How to make feel low sec feel like low sec
Maor Raor	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:49:00 - [26] Originally by: SleepingBuddah I think it would be fun it the outlaws could live in 0.5 It means CONCORD will response on criminal agression, but Navy should not KOS the outlaw. 0.6 and higher works fine now, but 0.5 is like 'border' security between lowsec and highsec and outlaws should be allowed there. 0.4 is the border. Blah blah stuff sbout PoSs and moon mining and reactions that im sure PvPers are interested in. Anyway.. The fact you need an alt to move stuff from the market to your character is somthing that i cant see CCP wanting to change anytime soon. Plus I think any move to making the loss of Sec less of an issue is Bad. Its a harsh game. on the plus side This is one of the ways that Pirates can Feed on eachother (popping eachothers Hauler alts) and thats a good thing.
Cipher7	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:51:00 - [27] I believe this idea should be implemented in .4 Extend Concord to .4 with long response time (like 60 sec), and let ppl of any sec status live there. Make it so in .4 you can kill someone and dock real quick and escape Concord. Should open up the lowsec markets nicely, also will bring more victims for pirates to shoot.
Orion Eridanus Dark Nova Crisis Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2008.03.07 11:54:00 - [28] Anything that reduces the number of alts in the game is good therefore I fully support the OP's suggestion. Originally by: Paulo Damarr That is a most Excellent Drake fitting, you are lucky to have survived.
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2008.03.07 12:00:00 - [29] Edited by: Hasak Rain on 07/03/2008 12:00:04 Originally by: Orion Eridanus Anything that reduces the number of alts in the game is good therefore I fully support the OP's suggestion. lol All my other earlier points in this thread aside, that is probably the number one reason why this will never happen. More Alts = More subs = more money for CCP. True you can make an alt on your main's account but a lot of people like running two characters at once and will pay to save the time of having to log.
Martin Mckenna D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.07 12:06:00 - [30] Originally by: Nova Fox if this happens 0.5 woudl empty out and become another low sec space nobody would bother with, if you want a better idea check my idea in my sig. # Seriously did you think about what you just said there. Pirates would not be able to be the agressors in 0.5 becuase they would be shot down by concord. But if someone felt they had what it takes to kill the pirate the pirate could engage back. So its no risk for your avrage empire dude, just a risk for the pirate... Like the idea alot but would have to be looked into more detail first. ---------------------------------------------



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