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Hungo
Minmatar Nightfallz
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Posted - 2008.03.09 09:05:00 -
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So from what i can work out..
KOS finally get's booted from 0.0 (this needed to happen) BOB gets beaten back to Delve and use lag as a tactic so they cannot be removed (this also is just gonna keep happening) IAC grows some balls and throw off AAA protection RED make a very stupid mistake and go after smashkill (really not a smart idea)
So in all this may i ask why, BOB cannot be removed from Delve because the servers cannot handle a conflict in one system thats needed so that in itself seems pointless.
RED have started a fight that they potentially cannot win as there meatshield is busy hiolding its own space and atatcking BOB so they canot aid RED there for making smashkills job of kicking the crap out of RED easier and tbh from a outsider point of view, with smashkilsl alliaes RED stand to loose space as GOONS cannot helpa nd Ultima Ratio are nothing b ut hauling pets and even with the legion there hard pushed.
So to what differ does the two largest conflicts gonna end?
As hard as it is, try not to flame for no reason, keep ti civil
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.03.09 09:11:00 -
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It's threads like this that remind me most of eve is full of morons, who fit T1 cap relays on their motherships. -------
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Farham
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.03.09 09:18:00 -
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I am assuming that the original poster had his lunch money stolen by RA at some point.
Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and All Around Major Idiot |
ED 209
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.03.09 09:22:00 -
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u fAIl
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So SuiMe
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Posted - 2008.03.09 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: So SuiMe on 09/03/2008 09:43:28 You forgot about TRI poking SmashKill from the other side. |
Sarwaka Foehammer
The Same 20 Guys
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Posted - 2008.03.09 09:45:00 -
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BOB used lag as a tactic???
Erm hello..wake up and smell the burning noobships, if anyone can be accused of lagsploits it is the Goonswarm. They are the ones who tried their best to carry the day purely with weight of numbers on their side, they are the ones who arrive at fleet battles flying cheap t1 crap most(but not all) of the time.
They are the reason so many of the cryalition have packed up and gone home..no fun being lagged out to hell and back and losing your expensive ship when you can see that so many of your "comrades in arms" are turning up in cheap crap they they dont care about losing and who dont care about you losing yours because of it either. Hell some of them even name their ships "Lag Warrior"
No my ignorant friend, BOB is beating them back using superior skills, FC'ing, Ships and tactics. They are holding their space IN SPITE OF the lag, not BECAUSE of it.
As for the rest of your post...well you sound like RA did something to you once. You wouldn't be a DMC alt would you?
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Mihailo Great
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer
They are the ones who tried their best to carry the day purely with weight of numbers on their side, they are the ones who arrive at fleet battles flying cheap t1 crap most(but not all) of the time.
I am in total agreement, how dare people who just joined eve and can only fly frigates think it's okay to participate in a large scale war?
They should go mine in high-sec for 6 months, then do missions for 2 years before even stepping into 0.0 like all the other idiot pubbies.
No respek these days I tell ya.
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mama guru
Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mihailo Great
Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer
They are the ones who tried their best to carry the day purely with weight of numbers on their side, they are the ones who arrive at fleet battles flying cheap t1 crap most(but not all) of the time.
I am in total agreement, how dare people who just joined eve and can only fly frigates think it's okay to participate in a large scale war?
They should go mine in high-sec for 6 months, then do missions for 2 years before even stepping into 0.0 like all the other idiot pubbies.
No respek these days I tell ya.
And that about ends that debate.
EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |
marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: mama guru
Originally by: Mihailo Great
Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer
They are the ones who tried their best to carry the day purely with weight of numbers on their side, they are the ones who arrive at fleet battles flying cheap t1 crap most(but not all) of the time.
I am in total agreement, how dare people who just joined eve and can only fly frigates think it's okay to participate in a large scale war?
They should go mine in high-sec for 6 months, then do missions for 2 years before even stepping into 0.0 like all the other idiot pubbies.
No respek these days I tell ya.
And that about ends that debate.
Last i checked you can be in a sniping BS with basic skills within a month or so if you wish to be part of a blob war in a 0.0 alliance.
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Thomina Yorke
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: marakor Last i checked you can be in a sniping BS with basic skills within a month or so if you wish to be part of a blob war in a 0.0 alliance.
Nice troll.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Thomina Yorke
Originally by: marakor Last i checked you can be in a sniping BS with basic skills within a month or so if you wish to be part of a blob war in a 0.0 alliance.
Nice troll.
Am i wrong?... do you have a constructive comment on the matter or not?.
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CkoBoPodKuH
Horns and Hoofs Ltd
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:40:00 -
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Im in smashkill alt-troll thread?! omg
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Sevdah
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:56:00 -
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For the last few days few bigger northern alliances were conspiring against RA and friends. Seems that in the very near future there will be some fleet movements towards eastern RA space. I thought someone should know this. Oh and this information is straight from the horse's mouth.
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Anita Pakonen
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Thomina Yorke
Originally by: marakor Last i checked you can be in a sniping BS with basic skills within a month or so if you wish to be part of a blob war in a 0.0 alliance.
Nice troll.
Am i wrong?... do you have a constructive comment on the matter or not?.
Yes. It takes at least 3 months to train adequate skills for sniping bs. More than that if you want to have acceptable range (>>150km) and fitting. New player is better off in tackling support ship like condor, or blackbird for ewar or even osprey. Just to pull off some examples. Not to mention you cannot afford to lose battleship after a mere month of playing.
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Twoside
Gallente Seven. Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 11:01:00 -
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In before marakor/windyplops
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Shaitis
Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.09 11:09:00 -
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Yeah bob is cheating and using lag tactics because they are fighting with 100 man fleet versus 200 man agressors. Shame on you Bob.
Smashkill ? This guys cannot be compared to RED, its not the same league.
"What is funnier ? 20 Matari slaves pinned to one tree or 1 Matari slave pinned to 20 trees ?" |
marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.09 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 09/03/2008 11:11:37
Originally by: Anita Pakonen
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Thomina Yorke
Originally by: marakor Last i checked you can be in a sniping BS with basic skills within a month or so if you wish to be part of a blob war in a 0.0 alliance.
Nice troll.
Am i wrong?... do you have a constructive comment on the matter or not?.
Yes. It takes at least 3 months to train adequate skills for sniping bs. More than that if you want to have acceptable range (>>150km) and fitting. New player is better off in tackling support ship like condor, or blackbird for ewar or even osprey. Just to pull off some examples. Not to mention you cannot afford to lose battleship after a mere month of playing.
I think 3 months is longer than really needed for basic sniper BS skills but the real/original point is that there is no reason what so ever for somebody to turn up to a huge 0.0 fleet fight in a useless frigate if you can fly a sniping BS within 2 or 3 months max or even a e-war cruiser in considerably less time.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.03.09 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: marakor I think 3 months is longer than really needed for basic sniper BS skills but the real/original point is that there is no reason what so ever for somebody to turn up to a huge 0.0 fleet fight in a useless frigate if you can fly a sniping BS within 2 or 3 months max or even a e-war cruiser in considerably less time.
How much ISK did you have @ 2 months, and how did your BS perform overall?
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.09 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Originally by: marakor I think 3 months is longer than really needed for basic sniper BS skills but the real/original point is that there is no reason what so ever for somebody to turn up to a huge 0.0 fleet fight in a useless frigate if you can fly a sniping BS within 2 or 3 months max or even a e-war cruiser in considerably less time.
How much ISK did you have @ 2 months, and how did your BS perform overall?
Way to ignore the point guy.
I had not a lot of isk tbh and my BS could hit at over 160km when i first trained for it but the point is that if the guys flying t1 crappy frigates had any sort of loyalty to their alliance they would turn up in a useful ship or give their place to somebody in a useful ship.
The lag/desync makes a t1 BS as useful as a rigged t2 BS but a t1 or noob friggie will always be useless in such fights apart from causing more lag.
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Sarwaka Foehammer
The Same 20 Guys
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Posted - 2008.03.09 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mihailo Great
Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer
They are the ones who tried their best to carry the day purely with weight of numbers on their side, they are the ones who arrive at fleet battles flying cheap t1 crap most(but not all) of the time.
I am in total agreement, how dare people who just joined eve and can only fly frigates think it's okay to participate in a large scale war?
They should go mine in high-sec for 6 months, then do missions for 2 years before even stepping into 0.0 like all the other idiot pubbies.
No respek these days I tell ya.
Hah now you try to spin it to make it sound like you are doing those poor noobs a favour. In actual fact you are taking those new players and introducing them to the worst aspect of EVE: Pos war.
Instead of being able to develop new connections/learn to make their way around EVE and discover the parts of this game which they ENJOY doing, you recruit the poor suckers, Propagandise them into yet another of your mindless anti-BOB smack spewing drones and drop them directly into one of the greatest meat grinders the game has ever seen: The seige of Delve.
Then you tell them that its all for their own good. That if it were not for you they would never be having so much "Fun".
I have news for you Goon drones, there are plenty of other great and fun aspects of this game and there are many other corps out there who will give you an opportunity to develop and grow, and who will not be using you as pure cannon fodder to fuel their own overblown Ego's. People who will really teach you skills and not simply that numbers are the best tactic(untrue in case you missed it).
Learn to think for yourselves. I know this may be heresy to your high command but believe me, there is more to EVE than being someone else's puppet. There are more enjoyable things to do than being lagged to hell and back every time you go into battle.
Territorial warfare is not the most Important or the only part of EVE. It is only one of this games many many aspects. In fact for all the anti-elitism the Goons seem to propagate, claiming space is the most elitist act EVE has to offer. Think on that next time you are staring at a black screen after jumping into an overloaded system.
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Prez21
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.09 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Originally by: marakor I think 3 months is longer than really needed for basic sniper BS skills but the real/original point is that there is no reason what so ever for somebody to turn up to a huge 0.0 fleet fight in a useless frigate if you can fly a sniping BS within 2 or 3 months max or even a e-war cruiser in considerably less time.
How much ISK did you have @ 2 months, and how did your BS perform overall?
Way to ignore the point guy.
I had not a lot of isk tbh and my BS could hit at over 160km when i first trained for it but the point is that if the guys flying t1 crappy frigates had any sort of loyalty to their alliance they would turn up in a useful ship or give their place to somebody in a useful ship.
The lag/desync makes a t1 BS as useful as a rigged t2 BS but a t1 or noob friggie will always be useless in such fights apart from causing more lag.
Are you being serious or just trolling? 2 or 3 month old chars are not going to have any where near enough skill points to fly a sniping battleship even halfway decently, they would just be throwing there ship away, they would be much more use in a heavy tackling cruiser or dedicated anti support cruiser or destroyer.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer
Originally by: Mihailo Great
Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer
They are the ones who tried their best to carry the day purely with weight of numbers on their side, they are the ones who arrive at fleet battles flying cheap t1 crap most(but not all) of the time.
I am in total agreement, how dare people who just joined eve and can only fly frigates think it's okay to participate in a large scale war?
They should go mine in high-sec for 6 months, then do missions for 2 years before even stepping into 0.0 like all the other idiot pubbies.
No respek these days I tell ya.
Hah now you try to spin it to make it sound like you are doing those poor noobs a favour. In actual fact you are taking those new players and introducing them to the worst aspect of EVE: Pos war.
Instead of being able to develop new connections/learn to make their way around EVE and discover the parts of this game which they ENJOY doing, you recruit the poor suckers, Propagandise them into yet another of your mindless anti-BOB smack spewing drones and drop them directly into one of the greatest meat grinders the game has ever seen: The seige of Delve.
Then you tell them that its all for their own good. That if it were not for you they would never be having so much "Fun".
I have news for you Goon drones, there are plenty of other great and fun aspects of this game and there are many other corps out there who will give you an opportunity to develop and grow, and who will not be using you as pure cannon fodder to fuel their own overblown Ego's. People who will really teach you skills and not simply that numbers are the best tactic(untrue in case you missed it).
Learn to think for yourselves. I know this may be heresy to your high command but believe me, there is more to EVE than being someone else's puppet. There are more enjoyable things to do than being lagged to hell and back every time you go into battle.
Territorial warfare is not the most Important or the only part of EVE. It is only one of this games many many aspects. In fact for all the anti-elitism the Goons seem to propagate, claiming space is the most elitist act EVE has to offer. Think on that next time you are staring at a black screen after jumping into an overloaded system.
/ signed
Best post so far tbqfh.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Way to ignore the point guy.
I had not a lot of isk tbh and my BS could hit at over 160km when i first trained for it but the point is that if the guys flying t1 crappy frigates had any sort of loyalty to their alliance they would turn up in a useful ship or give their place to somebody in a useful ship.
The lag/desync makes a t1 BS as useful as a rigged t2 BS but a t1 or noob friggie will always be useless in such fights apart from causing more lag.
Way to not only dodge my question, but spew a constant stream of misinformation indicative of either complete ignorance to the fundamental mechanics of both fleet warfare and the funding of new characters or willful dishonesty.
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Ewa Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: marakor I think 3 months is longer than really needed for basic sniper BS skills but the real/original point is that there is no reason what so ever for somebody to turn up to a huge 0.0 fleet fight in a useless frigate if you can fly a sniping BS within 2 or 3 months max or even a e-war cruiser in considerably less time.
You must be playing a different version of Eve.
Your 2 or 3 months player has trained learning skills or not? Does he have 14 in perception to start with? Efficient learning skills take about 3 weeks to train and very efficient ones take about 6 weeks. Without those, after 3 months of learning combat skills you barely exceed 3 milion skill points, which were a waste of time to train without training learning skills first.
After those 3 months it ends up in a Rokh or an Apoc (because only those can fire past 150km without t2 guns and without sacrificing tank slots) with average modules, average fitting skills, average support skills (electronics, navigation, engineering, mechanic, gunnery) which costs a crapload to buy and fit, insure and loose it in a very bump way because a 3 month player has barely any clue how to fly a fleet BS.
By the way, how was your Saturday night? I went to a party, got drunk, got laid and went to the swimming pool. Did you enjoy posting?
Oh, and a simple reason to come to fleet fight in a t1 frig is "Because".
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 09/03/2008 12:13:09
Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Way to ignore the point guy.
I had not a lot of isk tbh and my BS could hit at over 160km when i first trained for it but the point is that if the guys flying t1 crappy frigates had any sort of loyalty to their alliance they would turn up in a useful ship or give their place to somebody in a useful ship.
The lag/desync makes a t1 BS as useful as a rigged t2 BS but a t1 or noob friggie will always be useless in such fights apart from causing more lag.
Way to not only dodge my question, but spew a constant stream of misinformation indicative of either complete ignorance to the fundamental mechanics of both fleet warfare and the funding of new characters or willful dishonesty.
"I had not a lot of isk tbh and my BS could hit at over 160km" THIS ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
And the point i was making was that their are considerably more useful ships to bring to a large fleet op than a t1 or noob friggie.
Perhaps the BS comparison was a bad one to use to make my point as there are always picky ppl like you about with a magnifying glass who miss the actual point.
But the fact remains that t1 friggies are only good for causing lag in fleet battles and nothing else and that is the point i was trying to make and the fact you missed in your haste to show how well you know how much stuff costs.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ewa Quillam
Originally by: marakor I think 3 months is longer than really needed for basic sniper BS skills but the real/original point is that there is no reason what so ever for somebody to turn up to a huge 0.0 fleet fight in a useless frigate if you can fly a sniping BS within 2 or 3 months max or even a e-war cruiser in considerably less time.
You must be playing a different version of Eve.
Your 2 or 3 months player has trained learning skills or not? Does he have 14 in perception to start with? Efficient learning skills take about 3 weeks to train and very efficient ones take about 6 weeks. Without those, after 3 months of learning combat skills you barely exceed 3 milion skill points, which were a waste of time to train without training learning skills first.
After those 3 months it ends up in a Rokh or an Apoc (because only those can fire past 150km without t2 guns and without sacrificing tank slots) with average modules, average fitting skills, average support skills (electronics, navigation, engineering, mechanic, gunnery) which costs a crapload to buy and fit, insure and loose it in a very bump way because a 3 month player has barely any clue how to fly a fleet BS.
By the way, how was your Saturday night? I went to a party, got drunk, got laid and went to the swimming pool. Did you enjoy posting?
Oh, and a simple reason to come to fleet fight in a t1 frig is "Because".
read post 25 numpty.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:11:00 -
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The chick above is me, by the way.
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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
read post 25 numpty.
Read post nŠ24 Muppet!
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
Originally by: marakor
read post 25 numpty.
Read post nŠ24 Muppet!
And here i was talking about how t1 friggies were only good for lag in a large fleet op and ppl should fly other types and yopu and you idiot friend comes along and makes a stupid post about skill training.
You obviously did not read post 25 very well cos it covers the derail point posted in 24.
Be quiet unless you have a point worth talking about.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Yorda
Dont forget people who fit LAR's, plates, 7.5km points, and no rigs on their carrier.
Hey stop post my thanatos fit.
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