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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.03.11 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Jodi on 11/03/2008 19:42:28
Hmmm. So, lemmie get this straight: You guys have no problem making personal attacks on me, basically cuz you disagree with my opinion (Or suffer from Carrier Envy), but when I point out the incompetence of an employee at a company I do business with I'm somehow out of line?
If ZuluPark's initial Carrier Nerf was such great visionary thinking, why was there such an outcry against it? It was a bad idea, which was never retracted or apologized for, and I'm simply calling for the termination of the offending individual before he has a chance to do more harm. If 'its his job', then either do it well (shown to not be possible by his first action) or remove him from the job.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Princess Jodi
If ZuluPark's initial Carrier Nerf was such great visionary thinking, why was there such an outcry against it?
.. because there was so much outcry from alliance people they partly backed off from it but seems like this resistanse nerf is minor announance to the major alliances so CCP is going to push this thru and give damn about us saying it's wrong and bad. 
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Hmmm. So, lemmie get this straight: You guys have no problem making personal attacks on me, basically cuz you disagree with my opinion (Or suffer from Carrier Envy), but when I point out the incompetence of an employee at a company I do business with I'm somehow out of line?
If your opinion was actually regarding a specific change, that's one thing. It can be debated, points can be raised and debunked, an intellectual discussion can take place. However, when you post simply to proclaim, repeatedly, that you have a personal grudge against a developer and demand his firing, your credibility dries up very quickly.
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If ZuluPark's initial Carrier Nerf was such great visionary thinking, why was there such an outcry against it?
Because people don't like things they own nerfed, and the amount they dislike said nerf is proportional to the amount of time they spent aquiring it. If something has enough value to a player, their personal loss will outweigh the importance of greater game balance.
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It was a bad idea, which was never retracted or apologized for, and I'm simply calling for the termination of the offending individual before he has a chance to do more harm. If 'its his job', then either do it well (shown to not be possible by his first action) or remove him from the job.
So anyone who has an idea you disagree with should be fired? Or at least, any CCP Employee who is wrong regarding the popularity of a nerf?
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Posted - 2008.03.13 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
We are going to see MORE EM hardeners thus lesser damage from lasers
Em resistance is still going to be the highest resistance by about a 10% high resist on most ships and more on minmatar ships. If people fit 4 active specific hardeners than they will nerf their setup and still die. It be easier to take out someone with 4 specific hardeners and crap setup than take out a guy with 3 specific/omni and a good setup.
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El Mauru
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Posted - 2008.03.13 11:02:00 -
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I'd like to take the time to point towards the nice stasis bubble i have set up over there-
Enter and enjoy your never-changing EVE, right alongside the Counter-Strike Beta 1 players and mine-sweeper '95 enthusiasts.
Everybody else: Get out of your armchair (well- metaphorically), and enjoy the fresh breeze (a situation which might also be emulated by opening the windows to your gaming den).
Seriously guys: Adapt, test things out, THEN pass judgment. Guys who actually logged in to the test-server may whine away unconstricted ofc.
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Royaldo
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Posted - 2008.03.13 11:10:00 -
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hm logged in and then corp/alliance tag showed.
anyway this is a great change.
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Kagura Nikon
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Posted - 2008.03.13 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Edited by: Malcanis on 11/03/2008 11:37:38
Originally by: Kuolematon
Edited by: Kuolematon on 11/03/2008 11:16:30
I thank thee for great Amarr oomph what we are about to reveice from your sacred and infinite wisdom. I thank for the armor resist oomph and laser damage oomph we are receiving.
You are our beacon of light in this dark times!
It does not matter that now people is going to fit MORE EM resists than they had previously or that other races receives MORE benefits from armor resist oomph your about to give us.
We don't mind. We are here to look up to you and receive every little oomph your blessed to give us.
Once again, Thank you Zulupark for this wonderful oomph
Hugs and kisses,
XXX, People who are born as Amarr or are one thru intensive training (Recons lvl5, cough cough)
Ps. EM resists on armors were just fine. Laser damage was just fine .. you just caved in for vocal whiners. We understand you.
Yeah you're right. Giving everyone an extra low slot that can only be used for EM hardeners really didn't do Amarr any favours.
Oh...wait. No extra slot and EM is still the highest base armour resist, you say?
Wow, I guess people probably won't change their fits all that much then. So OP is a useless failwhine. Load up with some Explosive/Kinetic drones if you want to vary your damage types FFS.
Jesus christ, you just got a ~20% EHP damage increase and you're complaining it's a nerf? Damb, I'd love a nerf like that. Hey, zulupark, please nerf Caldari by giving all missiles a 25% increase in explosion velocity, thus forcing everyone to make their ships go 25% faster, thus nerfing missiles, thus killing EvE for ever. Or something.
The Internet Fairness Act of 2007 obliges me to disclose that when Torpedo DPS was increased by 33%, lots of Caldari pilots whined as well.
It IS a nerf!! because everyoen with apiece of brain used tripple ahrdeners on Battleships adn capital ships. EM was the lowest resist. Now all those will HAVE to use only EANM because 50% is a resist hole you cannto ignore!!
Way to go CCP. Why don 't you simply remove Hardeners from game ? Why not remove all resist mods and put 3 EANM built in at all ships since this is the only setup usable?
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Darth Felin
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Posted - 2008.03.13 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
It IS a nerf!! because everyoen with apiece of brain used tripple ahrdeners on Battleships adn capital ships. EM was the lowest resist. Now all those will HAVE to use only EANM because 50% is a resist hole you cannto ignore!!
IMHO tri hardeners were better only if you could spend 4 slots for your tank because 2 EANM + DC is better then 3-hard, but 3-hard+ DC was of course better than 3 EANM + DC. I am talking about t1 ships of course. T2 with high natural resist are whole different story of course.
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Way to go CCP. Why don 't you simply remove Hardeners from game ? Why not remove all resist mods and put 3 EANM built in at all ships since this is the only setup usable?
Well I am not going to use 3 EANM due to high stacking penalty probably i will end at something like 1 EXP + 2 EANM instead of 2 EXP + EANM in my ship.
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Christari Zuborov
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Posted - 2008.03.13 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Lemmie see: ZuluPark finally addresses the Amarr-sucks problem by nerfing the Armor on my Gallente ship. 
Typical ZuluPark idiocy. CCP, when will you fire this idiot? Before or after he ruins your game?
PJ - I actually like many of your ideas, and find myself agreeing with you many times. This however is over the line, and it would at least mean a lot to me if you took this back, and apologized.
Ultimately, this is a game. We are the customer enjoying another persons artwork. We should give feedback in matters where we believe that artwork could be improved, but it's their decision to do what they feel needs to be done. We all owe it to ourselves to simply just stop playing if we feel so little enjoyment.
I think why many MMOs fail over time isn't that the devs screw it all up, but they cater to those who're most bitter.
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Adamai
Naval Protection Corp
Xenotech Celestial Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:46:00 -
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what your not actually finding out is the complications excluding pvp for the carrier nerfe likes its hauling ability before we could stick 2x ity 5's with full t2 expanders into its bays and jump them long distances.
what i want to know has this been stopped screw its pvp potential its far more usefull for shipping high end ores to empire in mass especially when you dont have the jump freighter skill i know with rigs and full expanders it can still acheive about 25-30k m3 cargo cap which is crap compaird to how it used to be.
in my eyes carriers now suck their pvp ability was sketchy in the first place its more a supprot ship than anything else.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Eventy One on 14/03/2008 16:29:34
Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari shield tank was so overpowered it definetly needed nerf. We all have seen it's impossible to break tank on ratting raven! Wait...
Oh brother!?
I grow tired of this mis-informed opinion. Caldari shield tank does no dammage. Sounds like balance to me when a tank can take dmg but not kill dmg issuer, and a dmg issuer issue dmg but not die at the hands of the tank - thats balance!
Its not balanced when the tank can't give dammage, and can't take it.
Its not balanced when the damage dealer is easly killed by the tank.
People just don't appreciate the zen of it.
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Black Scorpio
Impending Doom Inc.
The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Edited by: Malcanis on 11/03/2008 11:37:38
Originally by: Kuolematon
Edited by: Kuolematon on 11/03/2008 11:16:30
I thank thee for great Amarr oomph what we are about to reveice from your sacred and infinite wisdom. I thank for the armor resist oomph and laser damage oomph we are receiving.
You are our beacon of light in this dark times!
It does not matter that now people is going to fit MORE EM resists than they had previously or that other races receives MORE benefits from armor resist oomph your about to give us.
We don't mind. We are here to look up to you and receive every little oomph your blessed to give us.
Once again, Thank you Zulupark for this wonderful oomph
Hugs and kisses,
XXX, People who are born as Amarr or are one thru intensive training (Recons lvl5, cough cough)
Ps. EM resists on armors were just fine. Laser damage was just fine .. you just caved in for vocal whiners. We understand you.
Yeah you're right. Giving everyone an extra low slot that can only be used for EM hardeners really didn't do Amarr any favours.
Oh...wait. No extra slot and EM is still the highest base armour resist, you say?
Wow, I guess people probably won't change their fits all that much then. So OP is a useless failwhine. Load up with some Explosive/Kinetic drones if you want to vary your damage types FFS.
Jesus christ, you just got a ~20% EHP damage increase and you're complaining it's a nerf? Damb, I'd love a nerf like that. Hey, zulupark, please nerf Caldari by giving all missiles a 25% increase in explosion velocity, thus forcing everyone to make their ships go 25% faster, thus nerfing missiles, thus killing EvE for ever. Or something.
The Internet Fairness Act of 2007 obliges me to disclose that when Torpedo DPS was increased by 33%, lots of Caldari pilots whined as well.
Are you an effing moron or something? If you don't think that of yourself you should. Enough said! In case you're wondering you'll get that response from me anytime you say nerf Caldari, Moronis, i mean Malcanis.. :PP
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