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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kuolematon on 11/03/2008 11:16:30 I thank thee for great Amarr oomph what we are about to reveice from your sacred and infinite wisdom. I thank for the armor resist oomph and laser damage oomph we are receiving.
You are our beacon of light in this dark times!
It does not matter that now people is going to fit MORE EM resists than they had previously or that other races receives MORE benefits from armor resist oomph your about to give us.
We don't mind. We are here to look up to you and receive every little oomph your blessed to give us.
Once again, Thank you Zulupark for this wonderful oomph
Hugs and kisses,
XXX, People who are born as Amarr or are one thru intensive training (Recons lvl5, cough cough)
Ps. EM resists on armors were just fine. Laser damage was just fine .. you just caved in for vocal whiners. We understand you.
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of gold"
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Cpt Branko
Surge. Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:18:00 -
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You sound almost like you don't believe that making 2-3xEANM tanks much superior to 3-hardened tanks is Amarr oomph.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:18:00 -
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you could give some ppl free beers and theyd complain that its not cold enough -
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:20:00 -
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Laser damage in general was fine.
The zealot buff was a needed, nice touch.
But why the hell didn't you tweak recon's over nerfing my godamn armor, stop nerfing me when you buff me >< EM was already my worst resist on t1 ships fs. ------ [Quha]El-Diablito - Quality newbie bashing anno 1998 - Be afraid, for I have no real life what so ever |

Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Karjala Inc. Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:23:00 -
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Caldari shield tank was so overpowered it definetly needed nerf. We all have seen it's impossible to break tank on ratting raven! Wait...
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:28:00 -
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If it wasn't for the armor and shield resist nerf, this patch would have been great.
I just can't forgive CCP for letting them do such major game design change on impulse. And the community let them get away. It's not just a nerf to resistence, it's a nerf to the idea that shields and armor have opposite strengths and weaknesses, it's a nerf to variety in game.
We could have achieved balance without making that sacrifice.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:31:00 -
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If they choose to fit more EM resist than the standard omni-tank they'll do less damage - bonus!
Only other race to benefit from EM change is Caldari with their missiles, the other damage types are still superior do I doubt it will have much impact. The slaves EMP ammo requires them to get into web range and very few of their tanks can survive in snuggling range against Amarr.
Getting +25% damage on gank HAC is good.
Getting our previously near-useless third BS out of the museum is good.
I for one am happy with this first step, still lacking the capacitor uber-ness, but getting there.
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jita pc232323
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida If they choose to fit more EM resist than the standard omni-tank they'll do less damage - bonus!
And any Amarr ship attacking it will do less damage - nerf!
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Malcanis on 11/03/2008 11:37:38
Originally by: Kuolematon Edited by: Kuolematon on 11/03/2008 11:16:30 I thank thee for great Amarr oomph what we are about to reveice from your sacred and infinite wisdom. I thank for the armor resist oomph and laser damage oomph we are receiving.
You are our beacon of light in this dark times!
It does not matter that now people is going to fit MORE EM resists than they had previously or that other races receives MORE benefits from armor resist oomph your about to give us.
We don't mind. We are here to look up to you and receive every little oomph your blessed to give us.
Once again, Thank you Zulupark for this wonderful oomph
Hugs and kisses,
XXX, People who are born as Amarr or are one thru intensive training (Recons lvl5, cough cough)
Ps. EM resists on armors were just fine. Laser damage was just fine .. you just caved in for vocal whiners. We understand you.
Yeah you're right. Giving everyone an extra low slot that can only be used for EM hardeners really didn't do Amarr any favours.
Oh...wait. No extra slot and EM is still the highest base armour resist, you say?
Wow, I guess people probably won't change their fits all that much then. So OP is a useless failwhine. Load up with some Explosive/Kinetic drones if you want to vary your damage types FFS.
Jesus christ, you just got a ~20% EHP damage increase and you're complaining it's a nerf? Damb, I'd love a nerf like that. Hey, zulupark, please nerf Caldari by giving all missiles a 25% increase in explosion velocity, thus forcing everyone to make their ships go 25% faster, thus nerfing missiles, thus killing EvE for ever. Or something.
The Internet Fairness Act of 2007 obliges me to disclose that when Torpedo DPS was increased by 33%, lots of Caldari pilots whined as well.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron If it wasn't for the armor and shield resist nerf, this patch would have been great.
I just can't forgive CCP for letting them do such major game design change on impulse. And the community let them get away. It's not just a nerf to resistence, it's a nerf to the idea that shields and armor have opposite strengths and weaknesses, it's a nerf to variety in game.
We could have achieved balance without making that sacrifice.
Yeah, true. The fact is takes TWICE as much EM damage to reduce armour as it does shields means that armour = shields now. Simple logic.
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Lo3d3R
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Lo3d3R on 11/03/2008 11:46:03
Good work Zulupark, ignore the whines and bad attempts at funny sarcasm/irony .
EM-resist on armor were through the roof and I think this was the best measure, job well done.
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.11 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lo3d3R EM-resists on armor were through the roof and I think this was the best measure, job well done. The new Zealot will be a joy to fly also \0/.
Armor is supposed to have good EM resists. That's what makes armor special. That's the intended purpose in original game design.
The concept of strengths and weakness, can you grasp it? Do you understand how it applies to game theory?
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.03.11 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron The concept of strengths and weakness, can you grasp it? Do you understand how it applies to game theory?
Someone gets it. I still don't understand why people see that this is actually HELPING Amarr? They are nerffing EVERYONE's tank! Perhaps this is stealth "damn we frecked up 25% overall HP boost"-reverse patch?
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Bloodyranger
Minmatar Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.03.11 12:01:00 -
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I think amarrs have the best pvp ships already, I mean, Abaddon, Armageddon, Curse/Pilgrim, Archon it's just kinda insane they all get boosted. Minmatar are kinda left behind on this one  --------- When the night is closing in, Watch for Volition Cult, they will win. Battling for power, battling for space. In combat, in the belts, in your face.
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Lo3d3R
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.11 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Lo3d3R on 11/03/2008 12:04:51
Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Lo3d3R EM-resists on armor were through the roof and I think this was the best measure, job well done. The new Zealot will be a joy to fly also \0/.
Armor is supposed to have good EM resists. That's what makes armor special. That's the intended purpose in original game design.
The concept of strengths and weakness, can you grasp it? Do you understand how it applies to game theory?
Please do not pop a vain. Secondly if your only damage is EM/THERMAL maybe you do not understand that 90% of the PVP ships used are armor tankers and therefore Amarr are shafted. It's funny you mention 'theory' yourself, maybe now you have learned that theory and practise are two different worlds.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.03.11 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lo3d3R /me polishes his lazorrrs
You do that while others realise that this is generally bad move.
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.03.11 14:02:00 -
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The shield/armor resisit balance, is not is just a balance. I like that CCP can think further than most people here. If projectile weapons were limited to only kin/exp, how well do you think they would fare against shields? Just as well as Amarr does against armor. Reducing both is fair and balanced.
That projectile ammo usually are "assisted" by a 3rd damage type, is just the Minmatarr perk. Amarr have been boosted. It was a small boost, as they said they would. Take small steps so Amarr wouldn't become overpowered again.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.11 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko You sound almost like you don't believe that making 2-3xEANM tanks much superior to 3-hardened tanks is Amarr oomph.
Blasphemer.
Do the maths. It doesnt anyway.
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Orgos Khenn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.03.11 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists you could give some ppl free beers and theyd complain that its not cold enough
Only if they're Amarr. It could be 0 kelvin but then they'd whine about the flavour. ---- One day...one day General will be worth reading.
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Nicholas Barker
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.03.11 14:44:00 -
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anybody else notice the geddons on the tops of all those titan kills, you know, doing more damage than dreadnaughts. This sucks. ---
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.03.11 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Lo3d3R EM-resists on armor were through the roof and I think this was the best measure, job well done. The new Zealot will be a joy to fly also \0/.
Armor is supposed to have good EM resists. That's what makes armor special. That's the intended purpose in original game design.
The concept of strengths and weakness, can you grasp it? Do you understand how it applies to game theory?
Boy, there sure are a lot of straw men in this here thread. ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.1 |

0raven0
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.11 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Bloodyranger I think amarrs have the best pvp ships already, I mean, Abaddon, Armageddon, Curse/Pilgrim, Archon it's just kinda insane they all get boosted. Minmatar are kinda left behind on this one 
You do realize that this boosts minmatar even more than it boosts amarr right? EMP ammo now does even more damage to both shield and Armor. Lasers just do more damage to armor now.
See this was just another hidden boost to minmatar ------
Quote: tuxford: AT LEAST ITS SPEELED CORRECTLY tuxford: spelled* Oveur: rofl
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2008.03.11 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Wu Jiun on 11/03/2008 16:06:29
Originally by: Bloodyranger I think amarrs have the best pvp ships already, I mean, Abaddon, Armageddon, Curse/Pilgrim, Archon it's just kinda insane they all get boosted.
You can't believe it because its not true. Pilgrim is a pile of crap anyway. But even then curse/pilgrim don't receive a boost. There ewar goes from useleless to not so useless if you're talking avout the tds. Thats a goddamn fix. And btw. i know some minnie ships that actually do have the med to spare unlike most amarr ships - so this is a boost to each and everyone who likes to use tds.
Archon? lol? Where the hell did it get boosted?
Abaddon/Geddon don't receive a special boost either. em resistance will be lowered and so will exp resistance on shields. Amarr don't do exp damage with lasers, you know?
Originally by: Bloodyranger
Minmatar are kinda left behind on this one 
Uhhm yeah. Who uses exp and/or em damage on his most used ammo types? Right minmatar.
Who has here and there a med ro spare? Right minmatar and gallente.
And really if you can't find 5 good minnie pvp ships then you're doing something wrong. The only minnie ships i frequently fly are cruiser sized and even i don't have any problems to find 5 excellent ones. And i am sure i'll discover more when i finally have assembled all my skills to fly a maelstrom or phoon.
Edit: and yes thx zulu. I am sorry you didn't do something for maller & proph but maybe you'll consider it later. great stuff anyway dude.
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.03.11 16:33:00 -
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Lemmie see: ZuluPark finally addresses the Amarr-sucks problem by nerfing the Armor on my Gallente ship. 
Typical ZuluPark idiocy. CCP, when will you fire this idiot? Before or after he ruins your game?
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Lo3d3R
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.11 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Lo3d3R on 11/03/2008 17:03:56
Originally by: Princess Jodi Lemmie see: ZuluPark finally addresses the Amarr-sucks problem by nerfing the Armor on my Gallente ship. 
Typical ZuluPark idiocy. CCP, when will you fire this idiot? Before or after he ruins your game?
I cannot believe you post this here , not only is it not good for the relationship between CCP <-> Community which I can promise you is superb compared to other games, also its just plain rude, and your an ass.
I hope 'they' can see that you are special and need special attention and a special forum, and that you are not speaking for the rest of us.
Are such posts about CCP staff the new standard here? (I've had a years break )
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.03.11 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lo3d3R
Originally by: Princess Jodi Lemmie see: ZuluPark finally addresses the Amarr-sucks problem by nerfing the Armor on my Gallente ship. 
Typical ZuluPark idiocy. CCP, when will you fire this idiot? Before or after he ruins your game?
I cannot believe you post this here , not only is it not good for the relationship between CCP <-> Community which I can promise you is superb compared to other games, also its just plain... well rude... wtf dude hes doing hes job.
Are such posts about CCP staff the new standard here? (I've had a years break )
Don't worry, he just has an ax to grind since Zulupark proposed to nerf his beloved carrier. ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.1 |

Kyra Felann
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2008.03.11 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Orgos Khenn
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists you could give some ppl free beers and theyd complain that its not cold enough
Only if they're Amarr. It could be 0 kelvin but then they'd whine about the flavour.
That and the fact that it'd be ice and it'd be too cold to actually touch without your skin probably freezing. 0 Kelvin is cold, in fact it's as cold as anything can theoretically get.
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Drykor
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.03.11 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron If it wasn't for the armor and shield resist nerf, this patch would have been great.
It's not just a nerf to resistence, it's a nerf to the idea that shields and armor have opposite strengths and weaknesses, it's a nerf to variety in game.
We could have achieved balance without making that sacrifice.
QFE, though this is probably the wrong thread anyway to say anything productive :/
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.03.11 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko You sound almost like you don't believe that making 2-3xEANM tanks much superior to 3-hardened tanks is Amarr oomph.
Blasphemer.
This. Anyone who thinks I'll be fitting anything other than 2x EANM / DC for armor tanking for a PVP fit is ridiculous. Hardeners will never see the light of day. Oh, and training EM Armor Compensation to 5 as we speak lol.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.03.11 18:40:00 -
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We are going to see MORE EM hardeners thus lesser damage from lasers 
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.03.11 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Jodi on 11/03/2008 19:42:28 Hmmm. So, lemmie get this straight: You guys have no problem making personal attacks on me, basically cuz you disagree with my opinion (Or suffer from Carrier Envy), but when I point out the incompetence of an employee at a company I do business with I'm somehow out of line?
If ZuluPark's initial Carrier Nerf was such great visionary thinking, why was there such an outcry against it? It was a bad idea, which was never retracted or apologized for, and I'm simply calling for the termination of the offending individual before he has a chance to do more harm. If 'its his job', then either do it well (shown to not be possible by his first action) or remove him from the job.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi If ZuluPark's initial Carrier Nerf was such great visionary thinking, why was there such an outcry against it?
.. because there was so much outcry from alliance people they partly backed off from it but seems like this resistanse nerf is minor announance to the major alliances so CCP is going to push this thru and give damn about us saying it's wrong and bad. 
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi Hmmm. So, lemmie get this straight: You guys have no problem making personal attacks on me, basically cuz you disagree with my opinion (Or suffer from Carrier Envy), but when I point out the incompetence of an employee at a company I do business with I'm somehow out of line?
If your opinion was actually regarding a specific change, that's one thing. It can be debated, points can be raised and debunked, an intellectual discussion can take place. However, when you post simply to proclaim, repeatedly, that you have a personal grudge against a developer and demand his firing, your credibility dries up very quickly.
Quote: If ZuluPark's initial Carrier Nerf was such great visionary thinking, why was there such an outcry against it?
Because people don't like things they own nerfed, and the amount they dislike said nerf is proportional to the amount of time they spent aquiring it. If something has enough value to a player, their personal loss will outweigh the importance of greater game balance.
Quote: It was a bad idea, which was never retracted or apologized for, and I'm simply calling for the termination of the offending individual before he has a chance to do more harm. If 'its his job', then either do it well (shown to not be possible by his first action) or remove him from the job.
So anyone who has an idea you disagree with should be fired? Or at least, any CCP Employee who is wrong regarding the popularity of a nerf? ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.1 |

0raven0
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Posted - 2008.03.13 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon We are going to see MORE EM hardeners thus lesser damage from lasers 
Em resistance is still going to be the highest resistance by about a 10% high resist on most ships and more on minmatar ships. If people fit 4 active specific hardeners than they will nerf their setup and still die. It be easier to take out someone with 4 specific hardeners and crap setup than take out a guy with 3 specific/omni and a good setup. ------
Quote: tuxford: AT LEAST ITS SPEELED CORRECTLY tuxford: spelled* Oveur: rofl
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El Mauru
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Posted - 2008.03.13 11:02:00 -
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I'd like to take the time to point towards the nice stasis bubble i have set up over there-
Enter and enjoy your never-changing EVE, right alongside the Counter-Strike Beta 1 players and mine-sweeper '95 enthusiasts.
Everybody else: Get out of your armchair (well- metaphorically), and enjoy the fresh breeze (a situation which might also be emulated by opening the windows to your gaming den).
Seriously guys: Adapt, test things out, THEN pass judgment. Guys who actually logged in to the test-server may whine away unconstricted ofc. -
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Royaldo
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Posted - 2008.03.13 11:10:00 -
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hm logged in and then corp/alliance tag showed.
anyway this is a great change.
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Kagura Nikon
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Posted - 2008.03.13 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Edited by: Malcanis on 11/03/2008 11:37:38
Originally by: Kuolematon Edited by: Kuolematon on 11/03/2008 11:16:30 I thank thee for great Amarr oomph what we are about to reveice from your sacred and infinite wisdom. I thank for the armor resist oomph and laser damage oomph we are receiving.
You are our beacon of light in this dark times!
It does not matter that now people is going to fit MORE EM resists than they had previously or that other races receives MORE benefits from armor resist oomph your about to give us.
We don't mind. We are here to look up to you and receive every little oomph your blessed to give us.
Once again, Thank you Zulupark for this wonderful oomph
Hugs and kisses,
XXX, People who are born as Amarr or are one thru intensive training (Recons lvl5, cough cough)
Ps. EM resists on armors were just fine. Laser damage was just fine .. you just caved in for vocal whiners. We understand you.
Yeah you're right. Giving everyone an extra low slot that can only be used for EM hardeners really didn't do Amarr any favours.
Oh...wait. No extra slot and EM is still the highest base armour resist, you say?
Wow, I guess people probably won't change their fits all that much then. So OP is a useless failwhine. Load up with some Explosive/Kinetic drones if you want to vary your damage types FFS.
Jesus christ, you just got a ~20% EHP damage increase and you're complaining it's a nerf? Damb, I'd love a nerf like that. Hey, zulupark, please nerf Caldari by giving all missiles a 25% increase in explosion velocity, thus forcing everyone to make their ships go 25% faster, thus nerfing missiles, thus killing EvE for ever. Or something.
The Internet Fairness Act of 2007 obliges me to disclose that when Torpedo DPS was increased by 33%, lots of Caldari pilots whined as well.
It IS a nerf!! because everyoen with apiece of brain used tripple ahrdeners on Battleships adn capital ships. EM was the lowest resist. Now all those will HAVE to use only EANM because 50% is a resist hole you cannto ignore!!
Way to go CCP. Why don 't you simply remove Hardeners from game ? Why not remove all resist mods and put 3 EANM built in at all ships since this is the only setup usable?
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Darth Felin
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Posted - 2008.03.13 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
It IS a nerf!! because everyoen with apiece of brain used tripple ahrdeners on Battleships adn capital ships. EM was the lowest resist. Now all those will HAVE to use only EANM because 50% is a resist hole you cannto ignore!!
IMHO tri hardeners were better only if you could spend 4 slots for your tank because 2 EANM + DC is better then 3-hard, but 3-hard+ DC was of course better than 3 EANM + DC. I am talking about t1 ships of course. T2 with high natural resist are whole different story of course.
Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Way to go CCP. Why don 't you simply remove Hardeners from game ? Why not remove all resist mods and put 3 EANM built in at all ships since this is the only setup usable?
Well I am not going to use 3 EANM due to high stacking penalty probably i will end at something like 1 EXP + 2 EANM instead of 2 EXP + EANM in my ship.
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Christari Zuborov
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Posted - 2008.03.13 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi Lemmie see: ZuluPark finally addresses the Amarr-sucks problem by nerfing the Armor on my Gallente ship. 
Typical ZuluPark idiocy. CCP, when will you fire this idiot? Before or after he ruins your game?
PJ - I actually like many of your ideas, and find myself agreeing with you many times. This however is over the line, and it would at least mean a lot to me if you took this back, and apologized.
Ultimately, this is a game. We are the customer enjoying another persons artwork. We should give feedback in matters where we believe that artwork could be improved, but it's their decision to do what they feel needs to be done. We all owe it to ourselves to simply just stop playing if we feel so little enjoyment.
I think why many MMOs fail over time isn't that the devs screw it all up, but they cater to those who're most bitter.
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Adamai
Naval Protection Corp Xenotech Celestial Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.14 15:46:00 -
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what your not actually finding out is the complications excluding pvp for the carrier nerfe likes its hauling ability before we could stick 2x ity 5's with full t2 expanders into its bays and jump them long distances.
what i want to know has this been stopped screw its pvp potential its far more usefull for shipping high end ores to empire in mass especially when you dont have the jump freighter skill i know with rigs and full expanders it can still acheive about 25-30k m3 cargo cap which is crap compaird to how it used to be.
in my eyes carriers now suck their pvp ability was sketchy in the first place its more a supprot ship than anything else.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Eventy One on 14/03/2008 16:29:34
Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari shield tank was so overpowered it definetly needed nerf. We all have seen it's impossible to break tank on ratting raven! Wait...
Oh brother!?
I grow tired of this mis-informed opinion. Caldari shield tank does no dammage. Sounds like balance to me when a tank can take dmg but not kill dmg issuer, and a dmg issuer issue dmg but not die at the hands of the tank - thats balance!
Its not balanced when the tank can't give dammage, and can't take it. Its not balanced when the damage dealer is easly killed by the tank.
People just don't appreciate the zen of it.
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Black Scorpio
Impending Doom Inc. The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.14 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Edited by: Malcanis on 11/03/2008 11:37:38
Originally by: Kuolematon Edited by: Kuolematon on 11/03/2008 11:16:30 I thank thee for great Amarr oomph what we are about to reveice from your sacred and infinite wisdom. I thank for the armor resist oomph and laser damage oomph we are receiving.
You are our beacon of light in this dark times!
It does not matter that now people is going to fit MORE EM resists than they had previously or that other races receives MORE benefits from armor resist oomph your about to give us.
We don't mind. We are here to look up to you and receive every little oomph your blessed to give us.
Once again, Thank you Zulupark for this wonderful oomph
Hugs and kisses,
XXX, People who are born as Amarr or are one thru intensive training (Recons lvl5, cough cough)
Ps. EM resists on armors were just fine. Laser damage was just fine .. you just caved in for vocal whiners. We understand you.
Yeah you're right. Giving everyone an extra low slot that can only be used for EM hardeners really didn't do Amarr any favours.
Oh...wait. No extra slot and EM is still the highest base armour resist, you say?
Wow, I guess people probably won't change their fits all that much then. So OP is a useless failwhine. Load up with some Explosive/Kinetic drones if you want to vary your damage types FFS.
Jesus christ, you just got a ~20% EHP damage increase and you're complaining it's a nerf? Damb, I'd love a nerf like that. Hey, zulupark, please nerf Caldari by giving all missiles a 25% increase in explosion velocity, thus forcing everyone to make their ships go 25% faster, thus nerfing missiles, thus killing EvE for ever. Or something.
The Internet Fairness Act of 2007 obliges me to disclose that when Torpedo DPS was increased by 33%, lots of Caldari pilots whined as well.
Are you an effing moron or something? If you don't think that of yourself you should. Enough said! In case you're wondering you'll get that response from me anytime you say nerf Caldari, Moronis, i mean Malcanis.. :PP
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