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Kuvek
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Posted - 2008.03.11 17:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kuvek on 11/03/2008 17:59:09
Hi,
I've fitted a drake for level 4 missions and i'm looking for some advice on it, so if i've messed up somewhere please tell me:
High:
7 * 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher
Mid:
2 * Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
1 * Dread Guristas Magnetic Scattering Amplifier
3 * Large Shield Extender II
Low:
2 * Ballistic Control System II
2 * Shield Power Relay II
Rigs:
3 * Core Defence Field Purger I
Implants:
-5% to shield recharge
+5% to shield capacity
This gets me a total of 17514 shield HP and a recharge time of 294 seconds and with my invul fields running this gives me resists of 79/87/81/74. I mainly do Caldari Navy lvl4 security misssions, so if I'm about to waste my ship please let me know :)
Thanks!
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Annowyn
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Posted - 2008.03.11 18:46:00 -
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Eah. May was well get dread guristas launchers and tukker mix shield extenders. Just to round out the faction thing.
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Bloody Rabbit
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Posted - 2008.03.11 19:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Annowyn
Eah. May was well get dread guristas launchers and tukker mix shield extenders. Just to round out the faction thing.
Then kiss your ship good bye as someone ganks it
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Annowyn
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Posted - 2008.03.11 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
Originally by: Annowyn
Eah. May was well get dread guristas launchers and tukker mix shield extenders. Just to round out the faction thing.
Then kiss your ship good bye as someone ganks it
Have you ever tried to gank a faction fit drake?...
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Kuvek
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Posted - 2008.03.11 19:50:00 -
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Any thoughts on the tank? Would it survive lvl4?
Thanks!
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Annowyn
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kuvek
Any thoughts on the tank? Would it survive lvl4?
Thanks!
it would survive them with your eyes closes, no drones, and fof missiles.
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Kuvek
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:02:00 -
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Reason I was getting concerned is my shield dropped to 55% at one point, was just curious :) Never sure where it was supposed to go stable to be honest...
Thanks
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Annowyn
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:02:00 -
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33% is peack recharge. You were more than fine. :P
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Kuvek
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:03:00 -
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Is there a way I can figure how much DPS it would take before breaking?
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Recon Three
181st Legion
United Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:05:00 -
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Only need to worry when it goes below 30% if I remember correctly. I'm only running Lv3s at the moment, but I do have a Lv4 agent. Never bothered to try though.
All I've got on my Drake is:
7x Arbalest
2x LSE II
4x Shield Recharger II
4x SPR II, I switch out two for 2 BCS II sometimes.
3x CDFP rigs.
Overkill on the tank, but I like it.
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Jennifer Flate
Caldari
theFragment
The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:13:00 -
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You always need specific hardeners :P. 2/3 depending on what hat you're wearing on the day.
The setup you have will survive lvl 4's easily. As long as you dont aggro stupidly, or manage to get 10+ BS spawn on you.
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Kathira
Gallente
Denial of Service
Freelancer Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.11 20:37:00 -
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I am momentary running this drake for level 4. ( waiting for T2 missiles ).
[Drake, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
M51 Iterative Shield Regenerator
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay, Scourge Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher, Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger I
Core Defence Field Purger I
Core Defence Field Purger I
Hobgoblin II x5
Until now I had no problems with the tank.
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Realityfirst
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Posted - 2008.03.11 21:07:00 -
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lows:
Shield Flux Coil II
Shield Flux Coil II
Shield Flux Coil II
Shield Flux Coil II
Mids:
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Sheild Recharger II
Highs:
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile
Rigs:
3 * Core Defence Field Purger I
this is a heavy tank would run lvl4 missions in this over my raven if it had better DPS
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Vic Teishikuro
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Posted - 2008.03.12 01:54:00 -
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I'm just camping plexes and salvaging atm with my drake, cureent fitting:
High: 6x T2 Heavy launchers (scourge)
1x Tractor beam
1x Salvager 1
Mid: 1x T2 10MN AB
2x T2 Invulnerability Field
3x T2 LSE
Low: 2x T2 BCS
2x T2 PDS
Rigs: 3x Core Defence Field purger 1
Drones: 5x Hobgoblin II
Total Shield HP :18389
Shield rechargerate: 436 secs
You can swap out the AB for another LSE if u want, or adjust hardners to taste...I keep some T2 missiles with me incase i need them, with my skill set this works fine 
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d3vo
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Posted - 2008.03.13 03:52:00 -
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you should fit rat specific
otherwise, if you omnitank then you should make sure your setup is (now) 1.1 ready with the new resistances
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Salpad
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Posted - 2008.03.13 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: d3vo
you should fit rat specific
otherwise, if you omnitank then you should make sure your setup is (now) 1.1 ready with the new resistances
What new resistances are those?
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AnKahn
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Posted - 2008.03.13 15:35:00 -
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Edited by: AnKahn on 13/03/2008 15:36:04
For shield tankers I think it would be wise to put one photon scattering field II on most ships BC and larger for PvP.
This setup was suggesting on one of the other 1000 Drake treads.
6X HML II
2X LSE II, 2X Sheild recharger II, rat specific active hardener, invul II
2X BCU II, 2X SPR II
3X purgers
It fits, just barely, with my skills which are not stellar.
Regen time is something like 250 sec. It feels stronger than 3X LSE and 3X hardeners.
Edit--"for PvP" added
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Durzel
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Posted - 2008.03.13 15:41:00 -
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I don't think you need Shield Rechargers personally. I've duo'd L4 missions in my Drake and it was fine with just 1 SPRII, 3 LSEIIs and 2 InvulnIIs (rigged of course).
DPS is the big problem with Drakes in L4s - without it you're going to be tanking damage for longer than is necessary. Dead rats can't damage you!
OPs setup sounds perfect to be honest.
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Haradgrim
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Posted - 2008.03.13 15:57:00 -
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Why you would want to faction fit a drake I will never understand. A t2 raven does eveything a faction drake does, better and cheaper. And my t2 raven can do any lvl 4 without much trouble..... faction mods are really a waste except in pvp and you really need to have just a stupid amount of isk to justify them in pvp even then.
Anyhow, that being said, when your fitting a drake you have to make one critical decision: are you going to fit 7 launcher or only 6.
I often keep a drake around to run level 3s or rat in 0.0 in areas where I don't want to risk a raven or had to move my ship via carrier to. Most of the time, I don't bother with the 7th turret. I like to fit a salvager and tractor to increase my isk/hour so its a moot point for me anyhow. But if you do want to fit the 7th launcher then you aren't going to be able to have a 3 extender setup without fitting a bunch of PDUs or dropping an extender or something, the point is; your optimal tank doesn't fit.
Here is a good 6 launcher setup:
6 x HML II
1 x tractor
1 x salvager
3 x LSE II
1 x Invuln II
2 x Rat/mission specific hardeners
3 x SPR II
1 x BCU II
Drones:
Warrior II
Rigs:
Core Defence Field Extender
If you *HAVE* to fit 7 launchers, drop the tractor and salvage (obviously), swith 1 extender for a shield recharger, drop 1 SPR for a PDU and with the 3% grid and CPU implants + AWU IV you should be able to fit it (need good fitting skills all around)
Originally by: CCP Oveur
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Kuvek
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:06:00 -
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Before Bust Pacth: 79/87/81/74
After Bust Patch: 78/84/81/74
17514 shield HP and a recharge time of 294.
Is there any way I can work out how much DPS I can take before this tank would break? Are there any level 4's that this setup would totally fail on?
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Haradgrim
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kuvek
Before Bust Pacth: 79/87/81/74
After Bust Patch: 78/84/81/74
17514 shield HP and a recharge time of 294.
Is there any way I can work out how much DPS I can take before this tank would break? Are there any level 4's that this setup would totally fail on?
Sincel explosive was never an issue for PVE it shouldnt change your setups much. The only lvl 4s that will give your tank trouble are the hard ones like WC. I assume your fitting extenders or purgers for rigs to run lvl 4s.
 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Originally by: CCP Oveur
...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Kuvek
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim
Originally by: Kuvek
Before Bust Pacth: 79/87/81/74
After Bust Patch: 78/84/81/74
17514 shield HP and a recharge time of 294.
Is there any way I can work out how much DPS I can take before this tank would break? Are there any level 4's that this setup would totally fail on?
Sincel explosive was never an issue for PVE it shouldnt change your setups much. The only lvl 4s that will give your tank trouble are the hard ones like WC. I assume your fitting extenders or purgers for rigs to run lvl 4s.
My setup for lvl4 is at the top of the thread.
Thanks!
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Haradgrim
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Posted - 2008.03.13 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kuvek
Originally by: Haradgrim
Originally by: Kuvek
Before Bust Pacth: 79/87/81/74
After Bust Patch: 78/84/81/74
17514 shield HP and a recharge time of 294.
Is there any way I can work out how much DPS I can take before this tank would break? Are there any level 4's that this setup would totally fail on?
Sincel explosive was never an issue for PVE it shouldnt change your setups much. The only lvl 4s that will give your tank trouble are the hard ones like WC. I assume your fitting extenders or purgers for rigs to run lvl 4s.
My setup for lvl4 is at the top of the thread.
Thanks!
To which I asked; Why bother with a faction drake?
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Originally by: CCP Oveur
...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Kuvek
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Posted - 2008.03.13 21:15:00 -
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I wanted a good omni tank and I already had the items. I guess I could look at raven but could never decide on a good fit, any ideas?
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