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Aggressive Nutmeg 117	Posted - 2012.02.21 04:42:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-21/humans-not-naturally-nasty-says-scientist/3842114 Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Raiz Nhell DEEP CORPS 20	Posted - 2012.02.21 04:45:00 - [2] - Quote I think that it means that we are all from the same end of the bell curve :) I'm so carebear my Pod bleeds rainbow... Beers + nullsec + dodgy fit = Loss mail
Valentyn3 39	Posted - 2012.02.21 04:49:00 - [3] - Quote No it means your average internet denizen is. I used to be a Blade Runner like you, then I took an android to the knee...
Krios Ahzek GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 645	Posted - 2012.02.21 04:50:00 - [4] - Quote Blame society -áThough All Men Do Despise Us
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 7	Posted - 2012.02.21 04:50:00 - [5] - Quote So the dude scammed some government into paying him to torture rats and monkeys for a living and we aren't nasty at all. Riiiiiight.
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 209	Posted - 2012.02.21 04:53:00 - [6] - Quote Dare I be serious? EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. I don't know which is worse. Promoting a generalised dissasociated belief or trivialising RL ethics. Lets take the derived conclusion to the max then and promote EvE as the platform for resolving RL wars. Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Father Maynard 0ccam's Razor 0	Posted - 2012.02.21 04:59:00 - [7] - Quote Grumpy Owly wrote: Dare I be serious? EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. I don't know which is worse. Promoting a generalised dissasociated belief or trivialising RL ethics. Lets take the derived conclusion to the max then and promote EvE as the platform for resolving RL wars. Have you read about some of the politics that goes on in 0.0? These "conflicts" don't just come out of thin air. They also get perpetuated the same way RL conflicts do. In fact, I bet someone could write a paper on how similar the 0.0 politics are to RL politics.
Kojach Baumherr State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.02.21 05:31:00 - [8] - Quote true story, people who see crazy doctors, and are in turn the ones counted in their studies, are pussies
Kessiaan Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings 74	Posted - 2012.02.21 05:37:00 - [9] - Quote I've found most people in EvE adhere to some kind of code of ethics/honor, generally of the blue or orange variety. RL comparisons really don't apply, unless you live in Somalia. My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan
Krios Ahzek GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 648	Posted - 2012.02.21 05:54:00 - [10] - Quote It's simple. A videogame is not real life. You are not a psychopath because you shoot people in Modern Warfare. You are not a serial killer if you murder miners in EVE nor are you a criminal if you scam people out of their ingame money. You're simply playing the game as designed. -áThough All Men Do Despise Us
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 209	Posted - 2012.02.21 06:00:00 - [11] - Quote Father Maynard wrote: Grumpy Owly wrote: Dare I be serious? EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. I don't know which is worse. Promoting a generalised dissasociated belief or trivialising RL ethics. Lets take the derived conclusion to the max then and promote EvE as the platform for resolving RL wars. Have you read about some of the politics that goes on in 0.0? These "conflicts" don't just come out of thin air. They also get perpetuated the same way RL conflicts do. In fact, I bet someone could write a paper on how similar the 0.0 politics are to RL politics. Where's the oil in eve? roflysst Of course conflict are derived from differences, I wouldn't deny that, though some derived conflicts in EvE are simply random based on killboard motivations than ethics, I just wouldn't draw a RL comparison (at all). I've yet to see a real life politician at a memorial day say "ah, well it promotes PvP so its all good fun". Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1253	Posted - 2012.02.21 06:10:00 - [12] - Quote Valentyn3 wrote: No it means your average internet denizen is. Pretty much the case. The farther you are away from having your ass deservedly kicked for being an asshat, the more likely you are to be one.
St Mio Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 469	Posted - 2012.02.21 06:17:00 - [13] - Quote Must. Stop. Reading. TVTropes.
Ocih Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 81	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:16:00 - [14] - Quote The average EVE player is abnormal, no question but it isn't relative to that study. The Average EVE player is not nasty. Even the fearsome and trolly little goons. Most of them never set foot out of Deklien. On the other habd we know this game has about a 24-36 month life. After that you are really just spinning your wheels, yet the Average player has been here 5 or 6 years. I include myself in this but we aren't quite right in the head.
Grey Azorria Federation Industries 66	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:20:00 - [15] - Quote Grumpy Owly wrote: Where's the oil in eve? roflysst cough Tech moons cough Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Alara IonStorm 1649	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:26:00 - [16] - Quote I find that all this talk on the forums about Suicide Ganking this and Scam that is a lot like TV News. You live in a safe neighborhood but have triple locks on the doors and a gun under your pillow because in a city of Millions their are a couple of Stabbings a night up played to the extreme. For the most part the average EVE Player is nice. Sure their are a lot of Gankers and Scammers in Trade Hubs but that is like an odd mix of Gang Territory and a Shopping Mall. The average day to day folks would be glad to become friends with you. You could probably become buddies with most Scammers and Gankers as well if you met them flying around and not as a target. As for Low and Null they are PvP Space, I often don't find that the fighters their have any ill will towards you. They are simply the opposition. EVE is Competitive but that doesn't mean most of your competitors are not nice people. Scamming and Ganking make up a very small contingent of the game and most of the people who defend it don't even participate in it but like that competitiveness and danger in the game they play. The Big Secret. Most EVE Players are Nice People.
Valei Khurelem 363	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:33:00 - [17] - Quote Quote: EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. Sorry, but the fact that EVE players run around parroting marketing slogans created by CCP and they have an obsession claiming EVE is a harsh universe when it isn't does make me question the mental state of a lot of the player base. EVE isn't a harsh universe, it's just a silly overhyped game that is limping along because no one has anything better to play, if someone came out with the exact same type of game and did real time combat with where you aimed your turrets instead of locking on it would be completely obliterated. "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 210	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:53:00 - [18] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: Quote: EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. Sorry, but the fact that EVE players run around parroting marketing slogans created by CCP and they have an obsession claiming EVE is a harsh universe when it isn't does make me question the mental state of a lot of the player base. EVE isn't a harsh universe, it's just a silly overhyped game that is limping along because no one has anything better to play, if someone came out with the exact same type of game and did real time combat with where you aimed your turrets instead of locking on it would be completely obliterated. You do realise I was being sarcastic? Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Valei Khurelem 363	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:55:00 - [19] - Quote Grumpy Owly wrote: Valei Khurelem wrote: Quote: EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. Sorry, but the fact that EVE players run around parroting marketing slogans created by CCP and they have an obsession claiming EVE is a harsh universe when it isn't does make me question the mental state of a lot of the player base. EVE isn't a harsh universe, it's just a silly overhyped game that is limping along because no one has anything better to play, if someone came out with the exact same type of game and did real time combat with where you aimed your turrets instead of locking on it would be completely obliterated. You do realise I was being sarcastic? ....... THANK YOU! YOU GIVE ME HOPE IN HUMANITY! Hugs :D p.s. sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet unless you're really obvious about it, I've seen some EVE players posting on here that are that stupid unfortunately "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 210	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:56:00 - [20] - Quote Valei Khurelem wrote: Grumpy Owly wrote: Valei Khurelem wrote: Quote: EvE is real, so much so that comparison of real life relevance is now used as a platform to debate morality in a Sci Fi game. Sorry, but the fact that EVE players run around parroting marketing slogans created by CCP and they have an obsession claiming EVE is a harsh universe when it isn't does make me question the mental state of a lot of the player base. EVE isn't a harsh universe, it's just a silly overhyped game that is limping along because no one has anything better to play, if someone came out with the exact same type of game and did real time combat with where you aimed your turrets instead of locking on it would be completely obliterated. You do realise I was being sarcastic? ....... THANK YOU! YOU GIVE ME HOPE IN HUMANITY! Hugs :D p.s. sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet unless you're really obvious about it. Thats why I put a "rolls eyes" emoticon in the original text next to the comment. Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Valei Khurelem 363	Posted - 2012.02.21 07:58:00 - [21] - Quote No no, you need to do it like me with that wormhole topic that was up awhile ago. "don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP." -á - CCP Ytterbium
Ai Shun 295	Posted - 2012.02.21 08:25:00 - [22] - Quote Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-21/humans-not-naturally-nasty-says-scientist/3842114 The two lines at the end said it all. Quote: But he told reporters the research also shows animals bestow their empathy on animals they are familiar with in their "in-group", and said that natural tendency posed a challenge in a globalised human world. Not in my monkey-sphere? GTFO.
Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1338	Posted - 2012.02.21 08:32:00 - [23] - Quote Krios Ahzek wrote: It's simple. A videogame is not real life. You are not a psychopath because you shoot people in Modern Warfare. You are not a serial killer if you murder miners in EVE nor are you a criminal if you scam people out of their ingame money. You're simply playing the game as designed. It is even simplier... Morals and ethics are ideas therefore are not anywhere near "reality". Simple fact that society grew upon artificially created rules, which has been drilled into mind of human-kind since beginning is quite frankly fascinating... So much brain-washed people are "citizens" claiming to be not brain-washed. However opposite does not exist in "modern", "religious" society anyway..
Brunmunde Hildegaard The Green Machine 14	Posted - 2012.02.21 08:53:00 - [24] - Quote Damn man, some people need to step away from their computer and get some fresh air... "Sings me a dances of wolfs, who smells fear and slays the coward. Sings me a dances of mans, who smells gold and slays his brother."
Bubanni SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353 84	Posted - 2012.02.21 08:55:00 - [25] - Quote If a random no one is hurt on the internet by a internet bully, do you care? if your answere was yes, then you must have a very very horrible life, thinking about all the rest of the people who are hurt in the world by far worse things On the internet, most of us find enjoyment from "teasing" eachother, like small monkies jumping down from a tree to pull the tiger on its tail. (If you havn't seen that video, then do), it's a great example of primate nature, that we love to annoy others, to irritate them, and even bully.
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 211	Posted - 2012.02.21 09:09:00 - [26] - Quote While I don't endorse that primal urges can't be controlled by self-discipline I have to concede there are anthropological and bilolgical influences at work. But I'm hoping our value systems goes along way from seperating us from monkeys. And to use an analogy, I'd certainly prefer someone to take their stress out on a punchbag than a person in RL. However, where the lines are blurred is when people don't recognise culpability for their actions or trivialise "punkish" behaviour, they are still relevant even in games, even when in the cases that RP is at work. And attitudes on forums to certain issues needs to be kept in check. And for some I would remind about the presence of impressionable teenagers. But I won't dampen the argument down too much for fear of having overburdening sensibilities. Principally, I do recgonise the idea that EvE is a medium for "freedom of expression". I'm hoping that people don't really blur the line too much here. As an idea, maybe as an experiment we should encorage any players in game who are qualified consellors or members of the psychiatric profession to afford councilling services IG? Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Bubanni SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353 84	Posted - 2012.02.21 09:46:00 - [27] - Quote One should remember that eve is basicly a war game, and "mocking" the enemy is a form of battle-drum
Grumpy Owly Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 212	Posted - 2012.02.21 09:55:00 - [28] - Quote Bubanni wrote: One should remember that eve is basicly a war game, and "mocking" the enemy is a form of battle-drum Yes I'll grant you that psychological warfare has its place. Still doesnt take away responsibility from what you do in that does it? Also you don't have to be a complete asshat in the process to achieve the above. In fact demonstrating intelligent wit that can subversly undermine the opponents thinking rather than just relying on the "Your Mom" or worse approach is likley more valuable as a tactic in these cases. Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems. Stop EvE Apathy
Steve Celeste Wolfsbrigade 202	Posted - 2012.02.21 10:19:00 - [29] - Quote Raiz Nhell wrote: I think that it means that we are all from the same end of the bell curve :) The bellend.
March rabbit Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx 129	Posted - 2012.02.21 10:30:00 - [30] - Quote Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-21/humans-not-naturally-nasty-says-scientist/3842114 reading those sites makes you outside of group "average... "

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