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Pottsey
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Posted - 2008.03.13 09:30:00 -
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ôThat's giving a nerf to other forms of income since they are making less isk/hr than a salvager/tractor beam user.ö ThatÆs a not nerf to other forms of income. The other people are not gaining less isk for their job so there is no nerf. ItÆs only a nerf if the other people ended up with less isk per hour due to salvager/tractor.
A nerf is where one element gets worse. Not when one element stays the same and another gets better.
ôEither spamming or whining, take yer pick to what you are doing.ö Will pick whining if I have to pick. But its valid wineing as I cannot play the game I am paying for and I donÆt want to quit.
ôYou can't call every bug a nerf.ö But its not a bug. So it is a nerf.
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Vaal Erit
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Posted - 2008.03.13 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey ôThat's giving a nerf to other forms of income since they are making less isk/hr than a salvager/tractor beam user.ö ThatÆs a not nerf to other forms of income. The other people are not gaining less isk for their job so there is no nerf. ItÆs only a nerf if the other people ended up with less isk per hour due to salvager/tractor.
A nerf is where one element gets worse. Not when one element stays the same and another gets better.
ôEither spamming or whining, take yer pick to what you are doing.ö Will pick whining if I have to pick. But its valid wineing as I cannot play the game I am paying for and I donÆt want to quit.
ôYou can't call every bug a nerf.ö But its not a bug. So it is a nerf.
You need to educate yourself bro. If everyone gets a boost then it is not a boost because who got stronger? Everyone got stronger so everyone is at the same level again. Or you can say that faster exploration times means 1 guy can scan out and complete more complexes in a day and thus other people can't compete and are nerfed. And yes, making more isk in one profession nerfs the other. Say Mining and ratting nets me 100M isk/hr but boost mining to 200m isk/hr and suddenly every miner has 2x the isk as me and can wtfpwn me market pvp style. Logic bro, logic.
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Also, a technical issue is when common resolutions don't work on a game anymore. If you don't think that is a technical issues then you are just wrong. Maybe you should grow up and admit when you are wrong, then you'd get some respect instead of being laughed at by everyone (read other posts in this thread) Bug, technical issue, whatever. Absolutely no one in the computer industry will call a resolution problem a nerf unless they are making a hideously unfunny joke.
fake edit: I am trying to flame to get this useless spamming post locked. What they should do is nerf whiners like Pottsey
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.03.13 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 13/03/2008 08:43:34
Originally by: Andrue
Originally by: Inertial Technical issues aren't nerfs. The lowering of resists weren't nerfs either, but a necesary boost to Ammar weaponary.
What about the faction ships? If you pop over the Ships and Modules section you'll see that the Navy Apoc is now worse than the standard Apoc.
So: Mission runners have a harder time. Navy Apoc owners now have a worse ship than the T1 equivalent.
Still think there was no nerf?
mission runners can use regular apoc's
also how can mission runners have a harder time if nothing changed about the ship that they are using?
You don't understand: if someone else's ship got boosted then it's really AN EVIL NERF!!!111
Also, every change, no matter what, is a "stealth minmatar nerf".
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Merak Thrawn
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Posted - 2008.03.13 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Pottsey ôWhere do these people come from? I understand your line of thinking but... do you?ö Of course I do. Definition of a nerf ônerf is a change to a game that downgrades the power, effectiveness or influence of a particular game elementô
Lowering amour and shield resistance on all ships comes under the definition of a nerf. Removing graphics options is a nerf to the settings and makes the game unplayable for some.
strangely enough, the same "nerf" boosts damage on all ships. So I'll see it as a boost rather than a nerf.
Not true... Dmg boosted on Amarr + Caldari _(kinda)_ (Since they probably won't even have to switch missile type now after shields are gone on armortanks + Minmatar (EMP Ammo, high EM AND High explosive dmg) Ubermode x 2 with EMP ammo in this patch... Gallente?... Umm 10% weaker EM tank, hardly any of their T2 ships have omni resistance bonuses, it's all Kinetic and Thermal along with the dmg types they deal. Gallente got totally shafted with this patch imho, maybe they deserved it, but this is a bit too much... Sleipnir vs. Astarte before the patch?... I'd prolly have bet on the Sleipnir...Now i'd bet my entire wallet on the Sleipnir.
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Timotheus Siberius
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Posted - 2008.03.13 10:29:00 -
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I think there is a misconception about what a nerf is and how it is defined - it's slang after all.
But I think, because all ships have been changed, it was a universal change and not a discriminating one which changed only a small portion or single item. Hence it is no "nerf", but rather a tuning.
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Merak Thrawn
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Posted - 2008.03.13 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Timotheus Siberius I think there is a misconception about what a nerf is and how it is defined - it's slang after all.
But I think, because all ships have been changed, it was a universal change and not a discriminating one which changed only a small portion or single item. Hence it is no "nerf", but rather a tuning.
True in some ways, but since all races don't deal the same dmg types or have the same tanks - When the same stats on all the races ships change, some specific race/ships will get hit harder. In this case Gallente got shafted really hard tbh.
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Willow Whisp
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Posted - 2008.03.13 11:30:00 -
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Pottsey, this was on a different thread, but might help with the Graphics Settings issues you are having:
Quote:
Quote: The 1152x864 screen resolution is gone!?
It is still there for me....
I have found that Eve doesn't have resolutions to select from by default, it reads them from the list your Windows settings give you, I actually setup my own 1920x1100 resolution under windows and it then would appear in Eve. If you don't have that resolution on your Windows display settings listing then it won't appear in Eve. If you do it should. (not sure how this works for Linux/MacOS etc.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2008.03.13 12:19:00 -
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ôYou need to educate yourself bro. If everyone gets a boost then it is not a boost because who got stronger?ö I donÆt need to educate myself what I said is right. Not everyone got a boost. My tank got nerfed, my damage output stayed the same.
ôAnd yes, making more isk in one profession nerfs the other. Say Mining and ratting nets me 100M isk/hr but boost mining to 200m isk/hr andö ThatÆs not a nerf. Clearly you have a different definition of Nerf to me.
The miner makes 100mill The salvager makes 100mill.
Then a change happens
The miner makes 120mill The salvager makes 100mill.
No one got nerfed. The miner got a boost while the salvager stayed the same. Now if the salvager dropped down to 90million or less thatÆs a nerf.
ôPottsey, this was on a different thread, but might help with the Graphics Settings issues you are having:ö Thanks but it didnÆt work.
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Dramund
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Posted - 2008.03.13 12:21:00 -
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Everything is a nerf, everyone is out to get you, the glass is always half-empty, and there is nothing good about anything.
/wrists
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Ethaet
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Posted - 2008.03.13 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: Ethaet on 13/03/2008 12:26:37 Lets see...
-nerfs to shield and armour tanking -nerf to undocking safely -nerf to the raptor's powergrid -Nerf to the navy apoc based on the t1 apoc now being better
Also, -Nerf to performance -Nerf to settings (again!)
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Malken
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Posted - 2008.03.13 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey Removing graphics options is a nerf to the settings and makes the game unplayable for some.
FFS Pottsey you still havent upgraded so you can play in 1024*768? does that mean you havent upgraded since EnB Beta?
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2008.03.13 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 13/03/2008 12:37:09 ôFFS Pottsey you still havent upgraded so you can play in 1024*768? does that mean you havent upgraded since EnB Beta?ö I play at resolutions higher then 1024*768 but they got removed meaning my only option left is 1024*768. Being a fleet commander at 1024*768 is not fun. You donÆt have enough screen space.
Thats my complaint they took out screen resolutions above 1024*768 for what apears to be no reason.
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Polinus
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Posted - 2008.03.13 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit All you whiners are so dumb. Every boost = a nerf on something else.
But there hasn't been any game shaking nerfs like NOS nerf, dual MWD nerf, istab BS nerf, RSD nerf, etc.
Good god, you nitpickers about "omg they did a white lie" need to chill and play the game.
the removal of graphic options is a boost to who?
Its a bland ou LIE in front page. Sometimes i wish ccp was in a country with real costumer protection laws.
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WhiteSavage
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Posted - 2008.03.14 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 13/03/2008 09:15:26
Originally by: WhiteSavage So cry about it.
...Oh nvm...
Children are DYING of starvation somewhere.
And you're posting on a forum.
Forum posts don't feed (I would know)
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Thundercat Doom
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:14:00 -
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It's propaganda. They used it before the Trinity release as well. Lately, the stuff CCP has been feeding the player base about upcoming "boosts" and patches has really started to make them sound like used car sales people. Everyone knows you NEVER trust a used car salesperson.
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Marcus TheMartin
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Thundercat Doom It's propaganda. They used it before the Trinity release as well. Lately, the stuff CCP has been feeding the player base about upcoming "boosts" and patches has really started to make them sound like used car sales people. Everyone knows you NEVER trust a used car salesperson.
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Thundercat Doom
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:22:00 -
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Edited by: Thundercat Doom on 14/03/2008 07:24:55
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Your Stuff
My hangar?
You're funny, you deserve some kind of an award son. The originality of your comment was also very sensational. Perhaps you could give me lessons?
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Marcus TheMartin
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Thundercat Doom Edited by: Thundercat Doom on 14/03/2008 07:24:55
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Your Stuff
My hangar?
You're funny, you deserve some kind of an award son. The originality of your comment was also very sensational. Perhaps you could give me lessons?
the lessons will cost you all of your stuff
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Reem Fairchild
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Posted - 2008.03.14 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 13/03/2008 12:37:09 ôFFS Pottsey you still havent upgraded so you can play in 1024*768? does that mean you havent upgraded since EnB Beta?ö I play at resolutions higher then 1024*768 but they got removed meaning my only option left is 1024*768. Being a fleet commander at 1024*768 is not fun. You donÆt have enough screen space.
Thats my complaint they took out screen resolutions above 1024*768 for what apears to be no reason.
What are you talking about? I use a larger resolution than that, and the option for my resolution is definitely still there.
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Alex Raptos
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.03.14 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey ôShow a gameplay boost that does not nerf another gameplay element.ö Adding tractor beams to speed up looting. Adding better chance to find expeditions.
ItÆs not the resistance I am most upset about its the removing of graphics options so I cannot play Eve.
Erhem, those are not BOOSTS Those are ADDITIONS.
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Dianeces
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.03.14 09:01:00 -
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Why don't you shield tank a Navy Mega about it?
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.03.14 19:42:00 -
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ôI use a larger resolution than that, and the option for my resolution is definitely still there.ö Not all the larger resolutions have been removed. Only some and many others are reporting the same problem as me.
ôErhem, those are not BOOSTS Those are ADDITIONS.ö One is an addition the other one is a boost.
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Quincunx
Subspace Anomaly
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Posted - 2008.03.14 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Plave Okice
Is your glass half full or half empty?
My glass is not half full, nor is it half empty. It is simply twice as big as it needs to be.
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Butzewutze
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.14 20:34:00 -
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This -> clicky is definatly a nerf to minmatar and everybody who cant see this is either a noob or dont have clue about game mechanics.
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