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Omgbees getemoffme	Posted - 2008.03.13 07:55:00 - [1] Is it just me, or is EFT now completely useless?
Andrue	Posted - 2008.03.13 07:55:00 - [2] Originally by: Omgbees getemoffme Is it just me, or is EFT now completely useless? So...no change there then? -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.
Cypherous	Posted - 2008.03.13 07:57:00 - [3] Originally by: Omgbees getemoffme Is it just me, or is EFT now completely useless? So why is it useless exactly? Are you referring to the resistance nerf, if so wait and it will be fixed moaning here doesn't fix it ^^ --------- Liberty Rogues Website
Akita T	Posted - 2008.03.13 07:59:00 - [4] Originally by: Omgbees getemoffme Is it just me, or is EFT now completely useless? It's just you. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Acme TC	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:01:00 - [5] I'm sorry, but EFT was never useless before, it gave me accurate fittings on every occasion. I used it continuously patch by patch and it never failed me until now. It's now bugging out beyond belief. Perhaps your problems before were user error? After importing my character several times, it's giving me inaccurate readings of ships pg and cpu. Before the patch, even resistances were absolutely correct. 85.785 was 85.79 in EFT. All incredibly accurate. now....not so much. :)
Jakk Graiseach	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:14:00 - [6] It just needs an update. Resistance changes, ** turret changes, Ship PG changes, etc.. If the guy is on the ball, it'll all be up to date within a week or so. -- There are some men that things should not come to know **
Shevar	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Jakk Graiseach It just needs an update. Resistance changes, **** turret changes, Ship PG changes, etc.. If the guy is on the ball, it'll all be up to date within a week or so. 2.5 is already out for a week orso? --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Riho	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:17:00 - [8] Edited by: Riho on 13/03/2008 08:17:47 EPIC.... ppl are whineing about FREE software that makes their life easyer in eve and its broken once.... Originally by: Jakk Graiseach It just needs an update. Resistance changes, **** turret changes, Ship PG changes, etc.. If the guy is on the ball, it'll all be up to date within a week or so. do you give anything to the author to make him want to fix it faster ?... probaly not... so STFU. the author will fix it when he has time... its hes own project and hes not entitled to fix anything if he doesnt want to. ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
skuko	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:20:00 - [9] Edited by: skuko on 13/03/2008 08:20:34 Originally by: Riho Edited by: Riho on 13/03/2008 08:17:47 EPIC.... ppl are whineing about FREE software that makes their life easyer in eve and its broken once.... Originally by: Jakk Graiseach It just needs an update. Resistance changes, **** turret changes, Ship PG changes, etc.. If the guy is on the ball, it'll all be up to date within a week or so. do you give anything to the author to make him want to fix it faster ?... probaly not... so STFU. the author will fix it when he has time... its hes own project and hes not entitled to fix anything if he doesnt want to. THIS
Acme TC	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:21:00 - [10] I'm sure things like this are probably on EFT's end, just waiting for an update, but in case you all haven't noticed. EFT hasn't had an update for a damn long time...hope you enjoyed using it, because unless the developer of EFT comes out and decides to update it, you won't have anything to test new set-ups with...period. Ship-fit is WAY out of date. :)
Auron Shadowbane	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:22:00 - [11] Originally by: Riho Edited by: Riho on 13/03/2008 08:17:47 EPIC.... ppl are whineing about FREE software that makes their life easyer in eve and its broken once.... qfft
Riho	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Acme TC I'm sure things like this are probably on EFT's end, just waiting for an update, but in case you all haven't noticed. EFT hasn't had an update for a damn long time...hope you enjoyed using it, because unless the developer of EFT comes out and decides to update it, you won't have anything to test new set-ups with...period. Ship-fit is WAY out of date. :) it was updated last week... mybe look up the orignal post before you make post claiming its out of date. last update was on the 7th of march ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
Akita T	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:23:00 - [13] Would be nice if he'd open-source it. Since, you know, he doesn't make anything out of it (or not much ISK anyway, and almost certainly no real money). At least that way it could "go on" even if he quits, might get updated a bit more often... and last but not least, enhanced in several ways faster. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Acme TC	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:24:00 - [14] yeah yeah yeah, did you give anything to the author, no I didn't. 99% of you reading this didn't either, so don't try and give me the 3rd degree with your righteous bull****. Don't try to hang me out to dry for not giving to the author, I think it's a wonderful idea and I loved the program while it lasted, but again, if it doesn't get updated, then it will not be viable until it is.
Riho	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Acme TC yeah yeah yeah, did you give anything to the author, no I didn't. 99% of you reading this didn't either, so don't try and give me the 3rd degree with your righteous bull****. Don't try to hang me out to dry for not giving to the author, I think it's a wonderful idea and I loved the program while it lasted, but again, if it doesn't get updated, then it will not be viable until it is. read my last post.... 7th of march.... stop being a nubbin and search the original post (its even liked in the program ffs) and downlaod the latest version. sheeeesh some ppl ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
Ford Chicago	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:27:00 - [16] EFT author(s), please ignore the idiot in the OP. There are thousands of players that appreciate the time, effort and energy you put into creating a free tool for the community to use. While I'd like it sooner rather than later and faster rather than slower, your schedule is the only one that matters and I will never complain. Whenever you release the next version, if you do, thank you again.
Zaqar	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:27:00 - [17] what the ****
Acme TC	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:28:00 - [18] the homepage to EFT? good luck finding it. I searched for a loooong time googling left and right trying to find it and I still never found it. I just happened to find a 2.4.1 build of EFT on another site and I'm a pretty damn experienced web searcher. If you all have a direct link to Gripen's site where he maintains EFT I would be very happy to hear it.
Jakk Graiseach	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:29:00 - [19] Originally by: Riho Edited by: Riho on 13/03/2008 08:17:47 EPIC.... ppl are whineing about FREE software that makes their life easyer in eve and its broken once.... 1) it's "easier" 2) It's "whining" 3) I didn't whine - I just pointed out the fact that the program needs an update 4) You're thick as pig** 5) ESAD -- There are some men that things should not come to know **
Riho	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:29:00 - [20] BTW... the latest version currently out has the new ships added... only thing its missing atm is the resists. look at the bottim of the ship selection list for the new changed ships ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
ZaKma	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:30:00 - [21] Edited by: ZaKma on 13/03/2008 08:29:50 Originally by: Acme TC the homepage to EFT? good luck finding it. I searched for a loooong time googling left and right trying to find it and I still never found it. I just happened to find a 2.4.1 build of EFT on another site and I'm a pretty damn experienced web searcher. If you all have a direct link to Gripen's site where he maintains EFT I would be very happy to hear it. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548883 As for the OP, it's just you. Seleene > you sound like my wife
Akita T	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Acme TC the homepage to EFT? Linkage 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Animin Mannja	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:31:00 - [23] Originally by: Acme TC After importing my character several times, it's giving me inaccurate readings of ships pg and cpu. Imports are through the API which is currently screwed, expected to be back up after downtime. Check the character EFT imported, it has zero skills.
skuko	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:32:00 - [24] Edited by: skuko on 13/03/2008 08:32:47 Originally by: Acme TC the homepage to EFT? good luck finding it. I searched for a loooong time googling left and right trying to find it and I still never found it. I just happened to find a 2.4.1 build of EFT on another site and I'm a pretty damn experienced web searcher. If you all have a direct link to Gripen's site where he maintains EFT I would be very happy to hear it. are you really THAT idiotic, MATE? EFT 2.5 1. navigate to "Ships and Modules" 2. look at the first page 3. ??? 4. profit... jesus h. christ, people are idiots these days.... edit: fortgot to actually LINK
Acme TC	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:32:00 - [25] Gripen, if you're reading this, don't get me wrong, I appreciate the hell out of that freeware program, it's absolutely badass. However, if it weren't for google, I wouldn't have found an older version of it to use. I still to this day don't know what your homepage for EFT is. Seriously, do a google search for "Eve EFT" and see what results you get. Nobody can find it bro.
Riho	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Acme TC the homepage to EFT? good luck finding it. I searched for a loooong time googling left and right trying to find it and I still never found it. I just happened to find a 2.4.1 build of EFT on another site and I'm a pretty damn experienced web searcher. If you all have a direct link to Gripen's site where he maintains EFT I would be very happy to hear it. ffs.. you suck... yes you do :P click EFT... click HELP.... click ABOUT.... click the damn LINK in the box that comes up or go to ships and mods forum and the thread is on the FIRST damn PAGE :P some ppl are just lollerskaets and google didnt show anything.... type EVE FITTING TOOL in google and the first thing you should get is the thread where Grimpen posts hes download links and changes news. ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
Zaqar	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:33:00 - [27] shut......up......
Akita T	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:34:00 - [28] Originally by: Acme TC Seriously, do a google search for "Eve EFT" and see what results you get. Nobody can find it bro. Google search for your convenience 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Riho	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:34:00 - [29] Originally by: Acme TC Gripen, if you're reading this, don't get me wrong, I appreciate the hell out of that freeware program, it's absolutely badass. However, if it weren't for google, I wouldn't have found an older version of it to use. I still to this day don't know what your homepage for EFT is. Seriously, do a google search for "Eve EFT" and see what results you get. Nobody can find it bro. no its only you sadly... there is no homepage for eft as he doesnt want to pay for a homepage service provider... unelss you are willing to do it for him. PS: yes im aware i might get a warning or a ban for posting very offencivly atm but i dont care... because some ppl are stupid and slag the hell out of ppl who do soo much to help the community ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
Acme TC	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:35:00 - [30] Why do you guys have to be such *****s? Try Googling it, you won't find **. Just because you all stay scanning the forums the entire time you're playing doesn't mean that other people are. How the hell are we supposed to know where to look to find it? Oh nevermind. you are the elite. My bad.
skuko	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:35:00 - [31] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Acme TC Seriously, do a google search for "Eve EFT" and see what results you get. Nobody can find it bro. Google search for your convenience rofl Acme TC, you fail EVE today.... :)
Akita T	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:36:00 - [32] Even misspelled, it still ranks as #1 search result 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Riho	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:37:00 - [33] Originally by: Acme TC Why do you guys have to be such *****s? Try Googling it, you won't find **. Just because you all stay scanning the forums the entire time you're playing doesn't mean that other people are. How the hell are we supposed to know where to look to find it? Oh nevermind. you are the elite. My bad. yes you do find it every time.. because thats how i allways search for it... eve search isnt that good allways and google hasnt let me down ever yet. learn to use google. its not that damn hard to type in there. want proof ? Google link, i searched eft on google what is the first link that google gives me ??? ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
Zaqar	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:37:00 - [34] Originally by: Acme TC My bad. indeed
Akita T	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:40:00 - [35] Heck... "EVE EFT" works just fine too. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Riho	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:41:00 - [36] Originally by: Akita T Heck... "EVE EFT" works just fine too. lol.. now you pwned this guys so hard... how can ANYONE fail at using google... i mean.. its impossible to use it wrong.. its the simplest search motor in the damn internet? :P ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
skuko	Posted - 2008.03.13 08:42:00 - [37] Originally by: Riho Originally by: Akita T Heck... "EVE EFT" works just fine too. lol.. now you pwned this guys so hard... how can ANYONE fail at using google... i mean.. its impossible to use it wrong.. its the simplest search motor in the damn internet? :P i sense the fail is strong in this one :)
Alatari	Posted - 2008.03.13 09:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Acme TC Gripen, if you're reading this, don't get me wrong, I appreciate the hell out of that freeware program, it's absolutely badass. However, if it weren't for google, I wouldn't have found an older version of it to use. I still to this day don't know what your homepage for EFT is. Seriously, do a google search for "Eve EFT" and see what results you get. Nobody can find it bro. Using Google with both "Eve EFT" and "EVE Fitting Tool", the EFT forum thread is the top link. What was your point? -- You can't do that with a Planet.
Rawr Cristina	Posted - 2008.03.13 09:28:00 - [39] Well the disarmanent of EFT-warriors, if only temporary, can only be a good thing. ...
Zarthanon	Posted - 2008.03.13 09:36:00 - [40] Originally by: skuko jesus h. christ, people are idiots these days.... edit: fortgot to actually LINK What does the "h." stand for? Did "Jesus Christ" have a middle name? I like pie.
Zaqar	Posted - 2008.03.13 09:49:00 - [41] Holy ;-)
Kerfira	Posted - 2008.03.13 10:37:00 - [42] Originally by: Acme TC It's now bugging out beyond belief. Perhaps your problems before were user error? After importing my character several times, it's giving me inaccurate readings of ships pg and cpu. If you've done the import after the patch, it'll not work as the EVE API will not be enabled (by CCP) until downtime today (or so they say). Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
GreGh Rakrot	Posted - 2008.03.13 10:47:00 - [43] Originally by: Zarthanon Originally by: skuko jesus h. christ, people are idiots these days.... edit: fortgot to actually LINK What does the "h." stand for? Did "Jesus Christ" have a middle name? Hanson. He was swedish. True story.
Cutter Isaacson	Posted - 2008.03.13 11:13:00 - [44] /me steps up to the plate, swings his bat and smacks the dumbass op out of the ballpark. My 3 year old cousin could have found EFT using google. Therefore, you sir, are dumber than a 3 year old. I order you to have "EPIC FAIL" tattoed on your forehead.
SoldierOfFortune	Posted - 2008.03.13 11:39:00 - [45] Considering he said he downloaded it from a non eft site I wouldn't be surprised if it was a fake xD with bad stuff m'kay ------------------------SiG-------------------- No Stealing My SiG!, This SiG is protected by the Supreme Interactive Guard. All HiJack Attempts will Fail! HAIL ZIM PUNY HUMAN ME
Franga	Posted - 2008.03.13 11:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Omgbees getemoffme Is it just me, or is EFT now completely useless? Asking 'if it's just me?', is one of the worst things you can ask if you want a decent reply. It's like saying 'Kick me'. And yes, it's just you. Originally by: Rachel Vend ... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
Franga	Posted - 2008.03.13 11:42:00 - [47] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Well the disarmanent of EFT-warriors, if only temporary, can only be a good thing. What? Originally by: Rachel Vend ... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
Tacitus Maximus	Posted - 2008.03.13 12:55:00 - [48] OMG! You guys really need to chill... What are you guys, like 12 yrs. old? So what if the question was stupid, people learn by asking stupid questions - we've all done it before. Knowing something another doesn't doesn't make you any better than that person, it only means that you know "that" particular thing. The only reason to attack others is to elevate your own sense of "worth", which just illuminates your own sense of inadequacy. Whenever you attack someone it just brings to light how utterly worthless you feel inside, and doesn't make you look any smarter. The fact that others agree with you just means there are a lot of insecure people out there - and you fit in. You can really tell a person's character by how well you treat them in those times when there is nothing forcing you to do so. And besides... the real problem is with the API keys, so to all those who jumped down the op's throat... EPIC FAIL!
Valan	Posted - 2008.03.13 13:14:00 - [49] To be honest if I was him I would delete it after the crap on here and license it to my friends only. How about a thank you for creating it in the first place. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig
Tarminic	Posted - 2008.03.13 13:25:00 - [50] I'm sure the author of EFT had no intentions whatsoever of updating his program for Trinity 1.1 until you pointed it out. Good Job, buddy. ---------------- Tarminic - 33 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.1
Altaree	Posted - 2008.03.13 13:39:00 - [51] CCP has released a new export already? COOL! Blue Sky
Kyoto Luyi	Posted - 2008.03.13 14:52:00 - [52] Originally by: Tacitus Maximus OMG! You guys really need to chill... Nice rant - nice chilling... -- The views or opinions I express are solely my own and do not reflect those of my Corporation or Alliance.. Oh, and I'm NOT allowed in CAOD either :)
Cygnus Scott	Posted - 2008.03.13 15:00:00 - [53] Originally by: Acme TC Why do you guys have to be such *****s? Try Googling it, you won't find **. Just because you all stay scanning the forums the entire time you're playing doesn't mean that other people are. How the hell are we supposed to know where to look to find it? Oh nevermind. you are the elite. My bad. Umm you know he forums have a search feature that don't work too bad most of the time as well right?
Ogul	Posted - 2008.03.13 15:17:00 - [54] Just stopping by to say... GRIPEN IS AWESOME! Thanks for your attention. P. S. EFT is far from useless. --- Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes.
Tacitus Maximus	Posted - 2008.03.13 17:08:00 - [55] Originally by: Kyoto Luyi Originally by: Tacitus Maximus OMG! You guys really need to chill... Nice rant - nice chilling... HA! Kyoto - I knew someone would say that! ...and sure enough... Wittgenstein somehow comes to mind... How do you state that stating something should be avoided? Ok - so outside of that obvious paradox - the point still stands, we should be more forgiving in our treatment of others, otherwise we're just a diffent kind of ***hole than the one we're pointing out!
Quincunx	Posted - 2008.03.13 17:57:00 - [56] Hehe, an experienced web-searcher you say, and your search was 'Eve EFT'? Why not search for the real name of the progam; 'EVE Fitting Tool'? It produces all the links you'll need.

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