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Minecap
Miners Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: Minecap on 14/03/2008 12:29:06 Well it takes 100% cpu on high-end systems (making them slow) too. It should be relative easy to fix, because it most of the time the game isnt really doing anything.
edit: on 1.5GHz laptop, and ~1.9GHz workstation
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Einor Deminre
Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:27:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Wellbing How come the people who complain about 100%cpu use low frame rates etc are on laptops or low end machines.
Trinity is a high end game client. Its system intensive. If ccp only listened to people who have crap computers then it would never get upgraded and look as wonderfull as it does.
If eve is running too slow... Your computer is crap! simple as that. Nothing wrong with eve.
You are right, I'm on a low end machine, it could use an overhaul. But I'm not going to spend the cash on it atm. But thats a whole different story, it dosent concern the issue we have atm.
I've been running EVE fine for a long long time, then 1 patch comes, and it messes up the game. This is not in any way related to my low end computer. Theres a code glitch, I can disable all features, enable all of them, nothing changes. Its not client side, its bad patching. Its like you wake up one day, and your car is broken after having it at the mechanic, then the mechanic tells you, sry it didnt make it. You get it back more brokent han it was when you turned it in.... Its not something you'll just accept :)
If this was a MAJOR graphic update patch, and my pc couldnt ahndle it, I would have known, and bought a new pc. This is bad patching and nothing else.
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Tafkas Zarathustra
Mad Cow Burgers Inc
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:29:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Tafkas Zarathustra on 14/03/2008 12:31:21 Edited by: Tafkas Zarathustra on 14/03/2008 12:29:30
Quote: You know when I get my GTC I pay for 30 days, not 29, 28 or 27 but 30. I've lost 3 days of my time so far...I trust I'll be compensated? Or will I have to lose the time that I pay for?
You realise now that your drama is nothing compared to the hungry families of the 10.000 chinese farmers who work for a living spamming channels and and farming DED Complexes? There are hungry children out there who wont eat today, cause CCP shutdown EVE...
We should have an official protest at UN if this goes on much longer.
Quote: Its like you wake up one day, and your car is broken after having it at the mechanic, then the mechanic tells you, sry it didnt make it. You get it back more brokent han it was when you turned it in.
Oh yea, like that NEVER happens...
Of all the things I lost, I miss my mind the most. - Ozzy Osbourne quoting Mark Twain (ha!) |
Opertone
Rulers Of Mankind Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:31:00 -
[94]
my raptor now is limited to 75 mm rails, with decent skills the optimal is only 20 km using iron charges... can the raptors get some grid back to be able to use 125 mm rails?
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Wild T
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:31:00 -
[95]
Why do people see fit to whine about what is essentially a great game (note the word game here and not real life) i would strongly suggest that you look at the equipment you have and the way it is set up before you pass criticism on the work of the dev team.
I run two accounts at the same time and the latest patch has improved the gaming experience on a gaming setup. Anything static is doomed to fail and those of you that seem fit to moan need to have a good look at your outlook, both here and in life. History never built a statue to a critic, so stop moaning about things, learn to adapt.
To CCP - 95% of us appreciate the game and enjoy the game play, the mechanics and the improvements you make, keep up the hard work. Ignore the losers who whine here.
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Galactic Tycoon
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: soulkiller3 Who says you pay for DT if there was no DT maybe you would be paying more.
Coming from someone who learing to code, some problems with patchs cant aways been seen till you have 10k + people running the program.
Yes theres still bugs there working on it, this is still the best MMO out there imo, and this is what you have to pay sometimes for such a good game(there trying new content that has not been done before), if EA was running eve we still would not 90% of the content that we have in game now.
I understand what you're saying but I pay for DT when I want to use the game but cannot.
An apology for inconvienience doesn't do much for me! Showing that I'm a valued paying customer does.
If problems cannot be forseen as you said, then it shouldn't be said it will be back tonight then it's still down 12 hours later. That's what winds people up....people who pay.
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eRa5oR
Divitarum Carta Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:32:00 -
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Mayb the wrong place to post this but its an idea to relieve Jita a little.
On a technical aspect Jita slows down due to the mass database access at anyone time, this is due to a single core PC arcitecture trying to handle all of the information due to current technology restraints within the language CCP use to write the software.
So why not use a cluster based marker between 3 main hubs. eg. Have a main market in each of the main 4 regions hosted on there own nodes, and have the database for those markerts linked in togther, a kinda sql bridge between database systems, this would also mean the market econemy would stabalise to around the same prices within these 4 regions of empire space, meaning traffic to jita would drop by 1/4 as stuff posted in jita would be avalible on another node within the local area if the market databases were shared. It would also cutdown on a lot of gate traffic between these systems, releaseing even less presure on other nodes that are used to get from region to region. Some of you may think thats stupid but infact its not, as the market outside the 4 trade points would still be localized so there would still be potential to upsell etc outside of the main markets and with the option of remote sales now being a large part of eve this intergration I feel would balance out the 4 main regions, making the main market economy balanced.
If someone feels this is in the wrong place, please repost for me, thx
ps. its just an idea, dont flame it!
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gotyaa
Little Joes Mining inc
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:33:00 -
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mm hot fix ,after not playing the game for over 9 mths i come back hear to see that slow motion is still hear boy role a smoke and have a drink before yaa can load yaa ship,time to move on ,after all this is 2008 not 1999
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Rafad
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:35:00 -
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OMFG OMFG OMFG **** u ccp every time i have to put on training is maintance
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Poreuomai
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:42:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Poreuomai on 14/03/2008 12:42:29
Originally by: MYTHOS7 IM A NEW PLAYER AND I HAVE 1 QUESTION.THIS TIME(1 DAY)WE LOOSE...THEY GIVE US BACK AS PLAYABLE TIME???(LIKE WOW)?
See here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=725351&page=3#72
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Minecap
Miners Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:43:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Minecap on 14/03/2008 12:43:47
Originally by: Poreuomai Edited by: Poreuomai on 14/03/2008 12:39:48
Originally by: Minecap Edited by: Minecap on 14/03/2008 12:29:06 Well it takes 100% cpu on high-end systems (making them slow) too. It should be relative easy to fix, because it most of the time the game isnt really doing anything.
edit: on 1.5GHz laptop, and ~1.9GHz workstation
What's wrong with 100% CPU ? I love 100% CPU.
I hate it when my CPU is not being fully utilised.
EVE is not an application which needs to co-exist with other programs, EVE is a game and when I run EVE I only run EVE and I want EVE to use 100% CPU.
So less then 100% cpu would be a bad thing? Okay, i just lost all motivation to give feedback here :-)
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dentonan
afk for a poo
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:44:00 -
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ok, stop asking for the money back from the extended dt, its not going to happen if it did we may loose patches that add extra to the game and develop it as it wont be profitable for ccp. yes profit every company aims to make a profit from what they do ccp will or should be doing what they can to avoid these errors but reading that much code and spotting what may be only a small bit of code that can cause the glitch is very difficult so it may get missed untill it is put under strain.
i am sure ccp will get round to fixing these problems when they can.
they are annoying and i am suffering the same problems. so yer ccp please fix them asap.
and quit ur whining about the api uve been told when it should be back up wait untill after tht taime b4 u complain.
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Nereni Valacon
The Mars Mining Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:44:00 -
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Hey all, the server is starting back up! w00t!
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scim atar
Phantom Squad Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:48:00 -
[104]
A Little more advanced warning for the extended downtime would have been nice this just means all the longer term stuff set in place for last patch will be off line or ending during this one. BAH
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Kek Mason
The Commissum
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:48:00 -
[105]
Don't get your hopes up.
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Bean Counter
Starfinder Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:49:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Reckless Hope
Originally by: Evolutius And as a not so new player, are you working on any of the other issues such as the massive frame rate drops that currently make the game unplayable?
cant use my second acct either. how sad.
Signed. Same situation here. :(
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Poreuomai
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Minecap So less then 100% cpu would be a bad thing?
well ... yes actually. Why do you want your CPU to sit around doing nothing?
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Nereni Valacon
The Mars Mining Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:54:00 -
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"The cluster is not currently accepting connections."
Great.
I can understand the problem of maintaining such a complex game. The server-side code alone would be utterly ridiculous in its complexity, much less all the other aspects of the game itself that need to be kept an eye on. What I don't understand is why CCP are not keeping us adequately up to date with downtime and other such things. To me, that's what's unacceptable about this whole situation and for that I think people are right to expect some form of compensation. Come on, CCP, get with the program already!
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IXO2796
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:56:00 -
[109]
I agree they should fix the UI problem. Once even my targets moeved out of the screen. This will get me killed in space. Also the UI doesn't remember its position. So everytime I move out of the station or open a gang the UI get stuufed on the right moving the selected item window out of sight. That rally sucks more than not to beeing able to play some missions. Oh and my dual clients crash too. Hmm why should I pay for 2 if they don't work at the same time? I hope CCP is one the ways to fix the problems caused by the booster patch. I know they can do it.
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HandSoLow
05 Tiamat Ancients
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jaden Corral I just don't get why so many people are complaining about time cards and skills and stuff, i mean, it's a couple hours, so what if your char. looses a couple hours skill time, same goes for time cards etc, it's a fraction of the time there is in a month when it comes to account perscriptions, and as for skill training, getting upset over a few hours lost compared to the months and years is laughable.
Okay yes CCP didn't find all the bugs and yes they didn't give great warning, so they may have ****** up, but adding a patch to something as complex as Eve must be a major task, there's bound to be conflicting programming which can't be found until it goes online etc, and at least CCP actually HAVE noticed the problems and ARE doing their best to fix them instead of burying their heads in the sand or telling players to "deal with it".
Personally i've lost about 50million isk to the patch (which to me is bloody loads), but i'd rather lose an extra couple of hours skilltraining/in-game money/real money and have the game running as bug-free as possible.
I don't think you get it do you? Not everyone is rich, those hours/days cost money, I just posted a post and 8 other posts got infront of it so it probably wont be seen. As I said...everyone isn't rich as what you probably are [in real life], those hours and days count for people to gather ISK in order to pay for their next GTC, Im moving house at the minute, have no job due to moving house, credit cards have been canceled due to consolodation of debts, I only have 2 million ISK in my wallet and 17 days left on my account...due to these days being deducted on my account WHILE THE SERVER IS DOWN is going to hit me hard, very hard. It has messed up the only way I can pay for Eve and due to this I will more than likely not be able to get my 180mil to pay for my GTC because of the number of days to get such an amount of ISK...please understand man, just because we are online and using Eve doesnt mean we are rich. I stated in my last ost that I cant even afford milk for a cuppa tea...nevermind paying for another GTC [and i cant due to no creditcards now].
Please CCP understand we are all not rich americans, my bloody house heating doesnt even have oil in it, im using a hot water bottle to heat myself :(...please put back 2 days of Game Time on everyones account for the downtime otherwise I wont be able to play eve AT ALL until I clear my credit card debt which wont be for 6-12 months :(:(:( - Quick Chewy, pass me the quaffe! |
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Izo Azlion
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.14 12:58:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Minecap Edited by: Minecap on 14/03/2008 12:43:47
Originally by: Poreuomai Edited by: Poreuomai on 14/03/2008 12:39:48
Originally by: Minecap Edited by: Minecap on 14/03/2008 12:29:06 Well it takes 100% cpu on high-end systems (making them slow) too. It should be relative easy to fix, because it most of the time the game isnt really doing anything.
edit: on 1.5GHz laptop, and ~1.9GHz workstation
What's wrong with 100% CPU ? I love 100% CPU.
I hate it when my CPU is not being fully utilised.
EVE is not an application which needs to co-exist with other programs, EVE is a game and when I run EVE I only run EVE and I want EVE to use 100% CPU.
So less then 100% cpu would be a bad thing? Okay, i just lost all motivation to give feedback here :-)
This makes me laugh. "I WANT MY WHOLE CPU TO BE GOING FULL TILT"
Why?
EVE runs fine at 50% for me, leaving itunes, mozilla, MSN and fraps to utilize the rest!
Izo Azlion.
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Galactic Tycoon
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.14 13:08:00 -
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To those who say they wouldn't complain.
What if the DT was for 5 days...7 days? At which point would you complain because you bloody would eventually.
What does it take a week...two? So don't pretend you wouldn't complain.
By the way why are you talking like "b4" that's just annoying.
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Poreuomai
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.14 13:12:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Izo Azlion EVE runs fine at 50% for me
Do you have dual core by any chance?
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Nereni Valacon
The Mars Mining Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.14 13:13:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Galactic Tycoon To those who say they wouldn't complain.
What if the DT was for 5 days...7 days? At which point would you complain because you bloody would eventually.
What does it take a week...two? So don't pretend you wouldn't complain.
By the way why are you talking like "b4" that's just annoying.
If the downtime extended for more than a day, I'd be complaining. Anything less than that is irritating, but not necessarily worth wasting time *****ing about it. I think most people are having a major problem with the whole "no notice" issue, which is excruciatingly annoying in more than a few ways, not to mention totally understandable. My complaint resides with the same issue, and it's important that that is understood by both naysayers like you and CCP themselves.
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Izo Azlion
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.14 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Galactic Tycoon To those who say they wouldn't complain.
What if the DT was for 5 days...7 days? At which point would you complain because you bloody would eventually.
What does it take a week...two? So don't pretend you wouldn't complain.
By the way why are you talking like "b4" that's just annoying.
Of course we would. but it never is and CCP give us free patches. So... wheres your arguement?
Izo Azlion.
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Minecap
Miners Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.14 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: HandSoLow I only have 2 million ISK in my wallet and 17 days left on my account...due to these days being deducted on my account WHILE THE SERVER IS DOWN is going to hit me hard, very hard. It has messed up the only way I can pay for Eve and due to this I will more than likely not be able to get my 180mil to pay for my GTC because of the number of days to get such an amount of ISK...
It should take you less time to make 15 Ç than 200 MISK, even if you live in a tent :-). If not you really have other things to focus on (or youre doing some major in-game business).
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Dr O'Mara
North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.14 13:15:00 -
[117]
50% cpu or 100%
It's all about how many cpu's you've got. Eve have some support for multithreading but not enough to fully load 2 cores (or 4).
So if you have a dualcore, aprox 50% cpu is full load on one core and the other available to other things. If you have hyperthreading (one core faking as two), you get some 80-90% usage. Solocore is usually 100% (eve does always find something to do).
If you really really want to run excel as well, change process priority. Step eve down a notch and you'll get cycles for excel as well (but at a penalty in eve ofc). I will not write the guide on how to do this, search internet on task manager if needed.
Eve doesnt throttle down, if it can produce 5000fps, it will (always using max cpu for slightly over one thread). You can check this by checking fps while docked. On a low-prio wishlist it would perhaps be nice to set a cap for fps, and hence cool the cpu down a bit (or save battery).
/Dr
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crofoot
Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.14 13:16:00 -
[118]
Hello would you please fix the overview, give it settings that the user can place it and it will stay? it did better before the patch now every time i leave a station or system, my overview window covers all my turret buttons and i can't see, thank you.
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CrashM
ReFit Technologies Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2008.03.14 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Izo Azlion
Originally by: Minecap Edited by: Minecap on 14/03/2008 12:43:47
Originally by: Poreuomai Edited by: Poreuomai on 14/03/2008 12:39:48
Originally by: Minecap Edited by: Minecap on 14/03/2008 12:29:06 Well it takes 100% cpu on high-end systems (making them slow) too. It should be relative easy to fix, because it most of the time the game isnt really doing anything.
edit: on 1.5GHz laptop, and ~1.9GHz workstation
What's wrong with 100% CPU ? I love 100% CPU.
I hate it when my CPU is not being fully utilised.
EVE is not an application which needs to co-exist with other programs, EVE is a game and when I run EVE I only run EVE and I want EVE to use 100% CPU.
So less then 100% cpu would be a bad thing? Okay, i just lost all motivation to give feedback here :-)
This makes me laugh. "I WANT MY WHOLE CPU TO BE GOING FULL TILT"
Why?
EVE runs fine at 50% for me, leaving itunes, mozilla, MSN and fraps to utilize the rest!
You probibly have a dual core processor (eve only uses one) so there for the first core will be at 100%
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Chickin defiler
Auron Systems
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Posted - 2008.03.14 13:17:00 -
[120]
Alright,
I am very happy with CCP at the moment, so what 24+ hours are gone, remember the what they said before "go enjoy real life for a few hours". If this GAME is hurting your REAL LIFE then perhaps you should stop and think about what you have accomplished. Sure I didn't play EVE during my study hall for a day, i finished my homework... Another thing if you are playing this game and you are out of school, and you are upset, get a job, it is not cool that you are complaining about these samll things to CCP. Lastly I can play the game and by the way i have DIAL UP. I am still kept increasingly happy that CCP doesn't require a player to have HIGH SPEED Internet (not including the orgional download). That is somthing that I, MIGHT, complain about, if they requireed high speed, but even so most Internet based games these days require high speed. So gry not to complain about small things CCP is likely to fix, and if you think this message annoying then i guess i am a hypocrite, myself :). Anyways i hope you understand and remember this downtime is in the morning! Why would you play in the morning anyways! Thank you and good...uhhh good morning!
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