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kopite
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:40:00 -
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Sometimes, these things happen, you get caught in a situation by a Pirate BS that you can neither fight fairly or run away from fast enough (usually running aint a problem for me but not always).
Said Pirate then kindly teaches you to be more careful/better prepared next time.
Now up to this point i dont have a problem, but as the title says, why do they then Podkill? If you are not at war with their corp, what benifit do they get from you having to pay out for a new clone?
What benefit do they get from there being X podkills in last hour in the system they are 'working in'.
Not a flame, i'm just curious as to the reasoning.
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:42:00 -
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I'ts the corpse. A kind of trophy if you will.
It can also serve as a way to remove you from the local channel, to stop smacktalking, or to prevent you from disclosing the location you were killed at.
Or they just like to be mean.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:42:00 -
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because we are egomaniacks and need regular self estieme boost via podkilling 
...or its just fun (and the pods keep nice sound) 
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:44:00 -
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Maybe you're an alt, and your clone contract is at a station 10-20 jumps away.  Not saying you, or anyone else is..but, if you blow up a ship.. and he comes back in a bigger ship... you'll say to yourself. "it all could have been prevented.. had I shot that damned egg."
That's the best reason I can come up with, that doesn't involve flames and bad words that start with 'g'. 
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Dtai'kai'-dte sa-de nau'gkon dtain'aun bpi-de.
if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:46:00 -
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Orestes is now an authority on the minds of pirates?
Maybe you should write a book .
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kopite
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:53:00 -
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LoL, quick responses there! :)
I would guess its more the ego side of collecting the corpses then.
Reason i ask is my mate was running round in his BB, a Scorp then appears and locks him down so he couldn't run. He wipes away shields etc.
Now if a Pirate wants to make money at this point the better ones issue their demands.. X amount of ISK, or they demand u drop all cargo.. whatever.
This guy just destroyed the ship, podded my mate and wandered off.
It's just i couldnt see the logic.. all he really gained was a corpse and a couple of standard mods.. he probably spent more on ammo! :)
He must have just got a bit of excitement from an easy kill.. what was essentially no contest for no reward.
I dont meen to sound whiney or anything as was just curious.. oh well its another name for the list, one day we'll be big enough to start ticking names off it!
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:53:00 -
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We have moderators from all kinds of corporations in EVE, not just mining/manufacturing corporations if that's what you thought. Obviously we will never reveal who we are as players, but how do you know Orestes isn't a pirate in game?
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Miz Cenuij
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:57:00 -
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Orestes might do it for the reasons he listed, but I do it simply because I enjoy griefing other pilots.
Plus, you get the best hatemail from pod kills.
"Men are going to die..
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:58:00 -
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I'm seeing a lot of Polaris around here  .
Is that normal? Has something changed?
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.04.10 10:59:00 -
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They must've gotten into my booster stash.
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Dtai'kai'-dte sa-de nau'gkon dtain'aun bpi-de.
if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Deepthroat
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Posted - 2004.04.10 11:10:00 -
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Orestes = Drunkenmaster.
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2004.04.10 11:21:00 -
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I've never understood the urge to pod someone you don't even know. If you're killing them because you don't LIKE them or because they are talking smack to you, then sure... give them a trip to the clone tank. And if they stay in-system in their pod to scout, I could see blowing them up. But podding someone after you blast their ship for loot? Why waste the ammo?
Then again, a podded player is more likely to post a bounty on their killer, so I guess if a pirate wants a big bounty as a status symbol (or to split it with a corpmate ) podding is a good idea...
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2004.04.10 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Chode Rizoum on 10/04/2004 11:32:07
i like podding people from behind 
Centuria > whoot?
Centuria > you stalking me? :)
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Nafri > then I a bird pooed on my head AND ON MY MEAL
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.04.10 11:39:00 -
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I'm seeing a lot of Polaris around here .
Is that normal? Has something changed?
Polaris are new forum spammers, they relieved us regular ones, the forum *****s, of duty recently.
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2004.04.10 11:42:00 -
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Damn forum Polaris :)
Centuria > whoot?
Centuria > you stalking me? :)
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Nafri > then I a bird pooed on my head AND ON MY MEAL
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.04.10 11:54:00 -
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Does that mean the former forum *****s get to ban people and edit Polaris' posts?
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Marabeth
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Posted - 2004.04.10 12:08:00 -
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kopite a number of pirates I've worked with didn't pod kill, but that number was tiny.
On the whole "pirates" are slaughter monkeys rather than pirates, and they will kill anything they can shoot at. Proper pirates will ransom your ship or your pod instead, but they are few and far between.
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.04.10 12:16:00 -
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Hmmm.
I know I posted this once, but I didn't save the thread (Have we a search feature yet? ).
Pirates do not toll. Pirates prey on innocent, unsuspecting and defenceless targets which can offer high rewards. And they blow them up.
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Fluid
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Posted - 2004.04.10 12:27:00 -
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Orestes might do it for the reasons he listed, but I do it simply because I enjoy griefing other pilots.
Plus, you get the best hatemail from pod kills.
the complex mind of a pirate 
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Grim Veneza
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Posted - 2004.04.10 12:27:00 -
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Not all pirates podkill. There is no purpose.
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.04.10 12:38:00 -
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Yarrrr
Also, Miz, that's the second time I've seen you admit to griefing. You are aware that griefing is a bannable offense and that the GM's might take exceptional pleasure at me forwarding those statements, right?
Thought so
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.04.10 17:05:00 -
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Quote:
I'm seeing a lot of Polaris around here .
Is that normal? Has something changed?
It was normal during beta, but became more rare after release. But now we're trying to post a bit more again. 
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Does that mean the former forum *****s get to ban people and edit Polaris' posts?
No
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kopite
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Posted - 2004.04.11 00:55:00 -
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Thx for the responses guys.
Like i say I dont mind the pod killing.. i'd just like to be able to understanf=d the motives.. as has been said most of the podkillers are just in it to grief.. they get no extra benefits for doing it.
Why is it so many people get their kicks from doing what they can to spoil others enjoyment?
You think i'm a threat or may have good loot? Then hell.. have a pop at me and get me floating in my easter egg, but think.. what do u actually gain by podkilling before u do it.
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Zen Jakkaru
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Posted - 2004.04.11 01:49:00 -
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Yarrrr
Also, Miz, that's the second time I've seen you admit to griefing. You are aware that griefing is a bannable offense and that the GM's might take exceptional pleasure at me forwarding those statements, right?
Thought so
Do you smurf what i smurf?
Har-de-fraggin'-har-har!
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Mooplani Soolyi
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Posted - 2004.04.11 01:59:00 -
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are aware that griefing is a bannable offense
would you please give me CCPs official definition of griefing?
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.04.11 02:54:00 -
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In every encounter where I have destroyed a ship I try not to pod. I have had opportunity but since I realize that at the point the ship explodes I have won and podding the individual only serves to make their life really miserable. I try not to take things personally so I dont make it personal as well. Destroying a lot of really expensive implants and/or possibly catching someone with an out of date clone to me is personal and those who take delight in said are of low character plain and simple.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.04.11 10:09:00 -
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I think most of them do it because they have small *****es and pathetic lives--you know, they're either 40 and living in their mom's basement, or a teenager who's never talked to a girl in their lives--and have to make up for it somehow by causing others the pain and emptiness they constantly feel.
It's sad really. We should pity them and offer them a shoulder to cry on.
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The Colonel
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Posted - 2004.04.11 10:25:00 -
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Edited by: The Colonel on 11/04/2004 10:26:20
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I think most of them do it because they have small *****es and pathetic lives--you know, they're either 40 and living in their mom's basement, or a teenager who's never talked to a girl in their lives--and have to make up for it somehow by causing others the pain and emptiness they constantly feel.
It's sad really. We should pity them and offer them a shoulder to cry on.
You keep on believing that, if it makes you feel better.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.04.11 11:23:00 -
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Quote:
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are aware that griefing is a bannable offense
would you please give me CCPs official definition of griefing?
I think you will find this link very useful, but the GM's have the final say in these matters.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.04.11 11:26:00 -
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We have moderators from all kinds of corporations in EVE, not just mining/manufacturing corporations if that's what you thought. Obviously we will never reveal who we are as players, but how do you know Orestes isn't a pirate in game?
Yarrr!!!!!!!
Orestes didn't want to undock with his player character when I was around 
I'll get him someday though 
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Xthril Ranger
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Posted - 2004.04.11 16:17:00 -
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I am not a pirate (never shot at a player in fact) , but if I was I would take the victims implants as hostag. Pay me or I will kill you. If you don't have any implants , good for you.
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.04.11 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: PaulAtreides on 11/04/2004 17:14:29
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I am not a pirate (never shot at a player in fact) , but if I was I would take the victims implants as hostag. Pay me or I will kill you. If you don't have any implants , good for you.
Your "victims" do not drop implants. If you kill someone, their implants are permanently lost.
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Smacktastic
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Posted - 2004.04.11 17:19:00 -
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There is no reason. You get podded if it's possible. Mostly because that's the way of doing it.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.04.11 18:13:00 -
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Not all pirates podkill. There is no purpose.
hm.
apart from bugs, it s incredibly difficult to podkill.
* podkilling punishes ppl for using implants.
* it cost additional, uninsured money. (clone..)
* biomass is the only prove in the game you get for a kill.
what more are you asking for?
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.04.11 18:24:00 -
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Considering everyone gets a fat payday when they lose their ship, you might as well destroy their pod and hand them an actual loss of having to get a new clone and new implants.
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.04.11 19:32:00 -
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Considering everyone gets a fat payday when they lose their ship, you might as well destroy their pod and hand them an actual loss of having to get a new clone and new implants.
Well most peeps dont insure for very much if at all. Its a bad habit but a lot of em dont have 25 mil to throw on insurance that they may not ever need or should not need in Empire space. Of course its a bad practice but one nonentheless. I dont know about you but even though Ive been playing the game for over 9 months Its still hard as hell for me to lay hands on 25mil at any given time and when I do its for a purpose other than ins. That said I still get it... So 9 out of ten times when you smack down a players indy or any other ship for that matter they lose big.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.04.11 19:48:00 -
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So 9 out of ten times when you smack down a players indy or any other ship for that matter they lose big.
yeah, uninsured indy, big loss.
are we playing the same game????
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Booky
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Posted - 2004.04.11 21:09:00 -
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Since we talking about insurance I would like to inform you all that a Scorp pays out a little over 28 mil for the basic insurance. I found that out last night from some guy in a megathron :-(
But hey, look at the good side, I still have never died in a pod. Although I do need to figure out how I am going to get back to empire space in my pod 
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2004.04.11 22:14:00 -
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Although I do need to figure out how I am going to get back to empire space in my pod
Good luck. I played it safe and it took me a couple months .
Flee to a safe spot as soon as you see another person in local.
It gets difficult when you get within 5j of empire space though  .
Or you could just hire me to...errr...speed your return to empire space .
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.04.11 22:54:00 -
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To be honest i doubt I would pod if I was a pirate. I once managed to get killed by a pirate, no ransom though, but she told me she wouldn't pod me and that was nice. Ofc some people will pod as pirates cause thats the character they roleplay, but sadly i think a lot of people will pod just for the hell of it.
However, in a corp war I would pod. Podding someone takes him away from your location, thats true, but unless he has a extra battleship close by I dont see any reason for me to pod him, he can't exactly hurt me with his pod. But war is expensive, and everything that takes money and resources from an enemy is a good thing.
Everyone might not agree with me, but this is the way I think.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.04.12 00:30:00 -
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Podkilling is done for two reasons:
#1 a trophy
#2 to get them out of local chat
Both are good reasons.
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toaster
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Posted - 2004.04.13 17:12:00 -
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Considering everyone gets a fat payday when they lose their ship, you might as well destroy their pod and hand them an actual loss of having to get a new clone and new implants.
If I am killing a ship, I'm doing it for the loot drop and to have a bit of fun. I'm not doing it to personally cost as much to the victim as possible (unless it's a war).
besides, after the cost of insurance and all those named mods and guns..they are out a decent sum already. Get another ship and come back? great! I'll get the loot drop from that one too if I can :)
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hm.
apart from bugs, it s incredibly difficult to podkill.
* podkilling punishes ppl for using implants.
* it cost additional, uninsured money. (clone..)
* biomass is the only prove in the game you get for a kill.
what more are you asking for?
1) why punish them for that?
2) As a pirate, is the point to cost them money or to fatten your own pocket with their loot and drops? Your argument is like Jim's, that costing them as much as possible is the point..where I'm saying making as much money as possible (and having some fun) is the point.
3) I'd have to agree with you on this one, if it is important to you to prove that you killed them then that's the only way.
After pirating for a while, I find myself locking pods more often now. Mostly because they can spy in their pod in local after their ship goes boom and pod killing is a 'cleaner' way to get rid of them for good. To me, that's a truly legit reason to pod kill them. If I know they legitimately just want to leave and go home, I will most times let them go in the pod but most PvPers are not as trusting as I am (understandably). There are some guys that I know are gonna be jerks and we pod kill them straight away cause who needs the aggravation?
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.04.13 17:26:00 -
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Because they want to remove their base of income.
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Acix
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Posted - 2004.04.13 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: Acix on 13/04/2004 18:01:38
I am a Merc, not a true pirate. We do some of the things that people would consider pirating if they didn't know we were getting paid to do these things. So my reasons may be different than a total full on pirate.
1) We get paid per corpse collected for many jobs we are hired to do.
2) Our job is to do as much damage to the pilot or corp as possible. Clones cost money and so do implants. Pod kill then equals more damage to pilot or corp.
3) I have found that I am addicted to the sound of a pod going cr4ck/squish. Its a very satisfying sound.
4) Due to the log out and warp away feature CCP decided to put in the game its much harder to get the pods. So its even more of a trophy than it has ever been before.
5) Someday Biomass will be worth something. Call me a futures market strategist. When Biomass is a commodity that people want to pay for I will be a very rich man.
These are my reasons above with a little humor added in for flavor............
A pay check is a paycheck. If we are hired to kill you or your corp, do not take it personally. You will just get a first person view of how well we do our job. Who knows someday you may want to hire us to do some work for you in the future.
SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts.
For more info click below
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.04.13 18:00:00 -
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*Squish*
Gotta love the sound, maybe CCP should make it TomB singing (just assuming he's a bad singer..)
But really, setting other people behind is just as good as getting ahead yourself. Either way, you'll come out on top (eventually).
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.04.13 18:06:00 -
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I seriously doubt CCP will backdate the usefulness of corpses, they've not done so with many other features in the game.
How else would it stop people from popping alts all day for the corpses?
Sure make them grade A depending on their skillpoints but would that be their points when you podded them or their current points and if so is there something monitoring what points they had when you killed them? I think no.
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.04.13 18:23:00 -
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Misilles usally do my dirty deeds either if i want it or not.
Only times i lock pods is when i eihter want to ransom them or just toy with them before i make my statement
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.04.13 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: McWatt on 13/04/2004 19:25:42
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1) why punish them for that?
2) As a pirate, is the point to cost them money or to fatten your own pocket with their loot and drops? Your argument is like Jim's, that costing them as much as possible is the point..where I'm saying making as much money as possible (and having some fun) is the point.
1. lot s of PvP players don t use implants. you "punish" other ppl for a playstyle that allows the use of them. (balancing skillpoints)
2. pirates earn little money. everyone else earns a lot. (again a balance procedure)
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Deaath
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Posted - 2004.04.13 19:28:00 -
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I collect corpses. They are like trading cards between our corp members. Kinda like baseball cards.
I will trade you 2 (insert name here) and a (name) for a (bad dude pirate).
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.04.13 19:38:00 -
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Wow, zincol is polaris, I thought they at least had an IQ test before handing out the purple spandex and cape.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.04.13 22:27:00 -
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Im sure others have said this before me.
Pirates pod because they can and podding makes them feel big.
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DarkStar251
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Posted - 2004.04.13 23:08:00 -
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I'm not a pirate myself, tho I have an alt that is.
As soon as I destroy a ship, I'm locking the pod. My first priority is to scramble/web it, in order to ransom it as most ppl have implants these days. Failing that, and assuming i'm alone and dont have others covering the other gates in the system, it goes down for trying to escape. If I have the other routes out covered, its more fun to let it make itself a safe point then listen as it whines at me, and maybe ransom it if it still wants out the system. =)
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2004.04.14 01:57:00 -
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It's all about the squish
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toaster
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Posted - 2004.04.14 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: McWatt on 13/04/2004 19:25:42
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1) why punish them for that?
2) As a pirate, is the point to cost them money or to fatten your own pocket with their loot and drops? Your argument is like Jim's, that costing them as much as possible is the point..where I'm saying making as much money as possible (and having some fun) is the point.
1. lot s of PvP players don t use implants. you "punish" other ppl for a playstyle that allows the use of them. (balancing skillpoints)
2. pirates earn little money. everyone else earns a lot. (again a balance procedure)
I am both a pirate, and a PvPer that does not use implants so believe me I understand about not making a lot of money. I see your point about skill points, but at the end of the day I pirate for cold, hard cash...and for fun. I'm not doing it to make them suffer for having more money than I do or balancing the skill points race (but maybe I should).
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.04.14 13:10:00 -
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I like to play with dolls n corpses
This is not a hijack
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