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Cipher7
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.18 12:14:00 -
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Oh my god the fanboi stench in here
When you come right down to it, Eve is an entertainment service.
The boards are not representative of all the players, ppl post here only to GRIPE, its like a "complaint box."
Arguing against criticism is useless, ALL mmo forums are full of gripes.
CCP job is to try to find ways to alleviate the most common gripes, without messing up the game for everybody else.
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Gregoriuses
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 12:41:00 -
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CCP is doing great, keep with good work CCP!! And ofc don't forget us (players), be so cool like u are now :) EVE Online is some of best developed games on the world, if not best one. Gratz to u
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trecwn
AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: trecwn on 18/03/2008 13:01:15 OK from my point of view.
Blizzard having played wow they have bugs they havent fixed for years in game with their resources ect plus you pay for every expantion. Plus their server suffer lag ect same as eve.
You think eve has issues with isk farmers well WOW has even bigger issues with them and there is nothing the player base can do about it on some servers (them being pvp and non pvp server).
CCP doing a good job with thier resources and keeping the game free for expantions ect yes problems but doing ok. They are trying to give us good content and a service yes they have issues but they are trying to sort them.
(ok i may look like a new char in eve but im a returning player after a 2 year break from eve).
There are numerous free mmo`s out there which in the 2 years i was away from eve i played and if im honest they are worse than eve and blizzard for content and issues.
The main issue they have resolved is the farming issue as you can buy your in game currency from the company that hosts the game so they make the money to keep thier games current ect.
anyway rant mode off these are just my views from playing other games and other companys.
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Rekatan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:19:00 -
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I honestly do think CCP is one of the better MMO companies out there, and Eve will likely hold my attention for longer than EQ UO SWG RO and WOW did combined, but please.... PLEASE people..
Understand the difference between server, and server CLUSTER.
Eve has not managed to squeeze 40K+ players onto one server. They have managed to squeeze 40,000 players onto one huge server cluster. Now don't get me wrong this is an innovation in the MMO gaming world and the smooth and uninterrupted transitions from one server (system) to the next is incredible, but lets praise them for what they have done instead of something that is presently impossible shall we?
40K on one server is i m p o s s i b l e with current technology.
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Everyone Dies
Lucky Tampon
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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rekatan I honestly do think CCP is one of the better MMO companies out there, and Eve will likely hold my attention for longer than EQ UO SWG RO and WOW did combined, but please.... PLEASE people..
Understand the difference between server, and server CLUSTER.
Eve has not managed to squeeze 40K+ players onto one server. They have managed to squeeze 40,000 players onto one huge server cluster. Now don't get me wrong this is an innovation in the MMO gaming world and the smooth and uninterrupted transitions from one server (system) to the next is incredible, but lets praise them for what they have done instead of something that is presently impossible shall we?
40K on one server is i m p o s s i b l e with current technology.
This.
CCP is the most advanced computer gaming company in the world.
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Taktix
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Forluhn #1 This is the MOST complex MMO out to date.
You're joking right? Have you played any other MMOs? EVE is one of the least complex.
Not that I don't agree with the general idea of your post, because I do, but your supporting points are extremely flawed.
This game probably has the highest amount of whine threads per capita, that's for sure.
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Adonis 4174
White Wolf Enterprises Harmonious Ascent
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Posted - 2008.03.18 14:07:00 -
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The whole free download thing is backwards. There are MMOs which allow you to download the client and MMOs which require you to buy a set of CDs then download all the multiple patches and you're like omgwtf?
Free download is a bare minimum requirement for an MMO, MMOs that don't do this are made by monkeys. ---- Exploding underpants: The real weapon of last resort. |

Robdon
Spack Lords Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2008.03.18 14:12:00 -
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Its not about how good CCP are, or how complex the game is or how many users there are or if its the biggest MMO around.
These problems should be caught by proper QA procedures.
I can play the game for 5 minutes and spot endless problems with the game after most patches.
They MUST sort out their QA and release procedure, and communication with their users.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rekatan Understand the difference between server, and server CLUSTER.
Optimizing is relatively easy, it is in parallelism where the really hairy stuff rears its head... Lucky for CCP, star-systems and market regions are kinda ideal unit for separating.
What I can't really figure out is; why haven't they split in-station actions and space as two different threads on the same system. Shouldn't be that much interaction required between the two. ---
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Rekatan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.18 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Taktix Edited by: Taktix on 18/03/2008 14:08:12
Originally by: Forluhn #1 This is the MOST complex MMO out to date.
You're joking right? Have you played any other MMOs? EVE is one of the least complex.
Not that I don't agree with the general idea of your post, because I do, but your supporting points are extremely flawed.
This game probably has the highest amount of whine threads per capita, that's for sure.
Originally by: Rekatan Now don't get me wrong this is an innovation in the MMO gaming world and the smooth and uninterrupted transitions from one server (system) to the next is incredible
You mean like WoW when you never zone except when going into instances/switching continents and can travel from one side of the world to the other without zoning? O wait no you zone every 2 minutes or so in Eve travel don't you? Give us all a break fanbois. We like the game but you guys gotta get a grip on reality.
Roflwaffles, yet another uneducated troll.
A. WOW has one server for the entire persistent world, as opposed to a server cluster. You're comparing apples to oranges and sounding like a WOW fanboi yerself.
B. Eve is older than WOW, hence even if A weren't true you'd still be an uneducated troll.
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Rekatan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.18 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: Rekatan Understand the difference between server, and server CLUSTER.
Optimizing is relatively easy, it is in parallelism where the really hairy stuff rears its head... Lucky for CCP, star-systems and market regions are kinda ideal unit for separating.
What I can't really figure out is; why haven't they split in-station actions and space as two different threads on the same system. Shouldn't be that much interaction required between the two.
Now yer talking on a level I don't fully understand ^_^ but I get the jist of what yer saying. If Eve weren't a space MMO we'd see an entirely different server structure, which may be why other companies like blizzard haven't pursued a few large persistent worlds like CCP has. It also is likely because it's relatively easy to make an open space zone with the occasional collision-sensitive object, while an MMO based on the ground needs plenty more textures/objects and so new zones are much more time consuming to produce, hence much more difficult to contain a large player base within one or two persistent worlds.
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