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Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 96	Posted - 2012.02.25 20:33:00 - [1] - Quote Its just a matter of scale. Gallente are great when you can sit in station and wait for your targets to come to you scouted three jumps out. They are pretty crappy when you can't choose the ship to counter the opposing fleet. Gallente have to many counters. Gallente can work in "blob" warfare, but the load on your probers is FAR FAR above a normal tengu/hellcat/mael fleet. They don't have the tank of the amarr the mobility of the tengu or the alpha of the maels. Not to mention plated up Megas are ******* slow and don't hold a candle to Abbaddons outside 20km So its a matter of application. ...so that is fine Gallente aren't that hot a null fleet warfare. Lowsec is a different environment, completely different environment, particularly around Amamake. Your mileage may vary if you live there, I've been back and forth across that system in my experience you roll in there with equal numbers, you won't see a tic unless you are fighting someone else than its a Mach or Tempest at 200km. Otherwise you get a bait ship on the gate and swarmed by superior numbers........but that's not blobbing amirite.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 96	Posted - 2012.02.26 11:20:00 - [2] - Quote So your contention is that the blob must be nerfed because someone may have more? Seems a bit counter productive to me its supposed to be a sand box.....which means that if the players organize into super blocks (and they do) well that is how it is. Reaction aside, it doesn't matter you are never going to mechanic out a 4:1 disadvantage. Not to mention I'm not sure where you go in null but the usual roaming gangs are 20-50. Any bigger and no one will take the fight and you end up camping a gate or doing a million jumps. Serious business fights are another beast and 300 is a small engagement.......but still to big for gallente hulls not named erubus. Thems the breaks
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 96	Posted - 2012.02.26 12:31:00 - [3] - Quote Roime wrote: Please don't, very good post as it is. All changes that would emphasize actual playing (as in being logged in and doing stuff) and inhabiting the systems would be good. That would be a change to SOV mechanics, not the ships themselves. As it stands everyone tends to group all of their crap in localized staging systems, there you find the most active markets and everyone's hangars.The rest of the space is essentially carebearland and securing travel routeswhich is why you see large areas unclaimed in the middle of most alliances' space. Do you need it all? Nope, not even close, BUT if gives you a buffer to stop everyone and their brother from baiting you out because the systems you DO need are within one titan jump of your neighbors.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.26 15:10:00 - [4] - Quote Kn1v3s 999 wrote: Tanya Powers wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: Now to stear the conversation back on track: Gallente is without question in almost perfect meta outside of null sec. Thus, Gallente is perfectly fine where most of the PVP happens Numbers show your that statement about Gallente is wrong. He should have said: "Gallente is perfectly fine where the most solo/small pvp happens" since he said outside null sec a line before. Confirmed No one in null undocks unless you have 150 of your best friends to babysit.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 00:49:00 - [5] - Quote Massive fights aren't common? For real? We've been pulling 400 ship fleet fight usually two a day for months. So have XIX, and Goons, ect ect. I dont know what you think is going on out here.....but AAA didn't kill 10,000 ships camping the ******* Kebers gate in HED-GP last month.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 00:57:00 - [6] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: Onictus wrote: Massive fights aren't common? For real? We've been pulling 400 ship fleet fight usually two a day for months. So have XIX, and Goons, ect ect. I dont know what you think is going on out here.....but AAA didn't kill 10,000 ships camping the ******* Kebers gate in HED-GP last month. Good for you. Small gang PVP is still more common - even in 0.0. -Liang True and gallente suck at it. To slow to deal with bubbles....and not enough range to fire out of them. I have equal gallente and mstar skills.....I left my gallente ships in empire because there is no call to use them.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 01:21:00 - [7] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: Onictus wrote: True and gallente suck at it. To slow to deal with bubbles....and not enough range to fire out of them. I have equal gallente and mstar skills.....I left my gallente ships in empire because there is no call to use them. Yes, ships get slow when you insist on quad plating and triple trimarking them. Stop that and you'll stop feeling like Gallente is slow. Although I do find it funny that you argue so hard that Gallente sucks against people that fly Gallente when you plainly don't actually fly Gallente... -Liang Incorrect I stopped flying gallente.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 01:52:00 - [8] - Quote Last paragraph sums that up.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 02:12:00 - [9] - Quote Farang Lo wrote: gallante rocks in wh, eve aint just about 0.0, htfu Indeed, if I lived in a wormhole that would be one thing. Many don't. In null and to lowsec Gallente just aren't that hot. So its not a matter of HTFU, its a matter of the best tool for the job. Gallente work for some few applications. Otherwise its needlessly putting yourself at a disadvantage.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 06:20:00 - [10] - Quote Lol hi sec PvP.....I love hiding behind neutral reps.

Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 06:48:00 - [11] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: Onictus wrote: Lol hi sec PvP.....I love hiding behind neutral reps. Lol null sec PvP.....I love no brain F1 blob "warfare". Confirmed I only fly in blobs, and refuse to undock in numbers that aren't triple digit. Never "done" Amamake, or Dal, or OMS, or Otou, Taff either.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 07:03:00 - [12] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: Onictus wrote: Liang Nuren wrote: Onictus wrote: Lol hi sec PvP.....I love hiding behind neutral reps. Lol null sec PvP.....I love no brain F1 blob "warfare". Confirmed I only fly in blobs, and refuse to undock in numbers that aren't triple digit. Never "done" Amamake, or Dal, or OMS, or Otou, Taff either. How quick you are to dismiss high sec PVP while you rush to defend your own. -Liang That is because hi sec PVP is a ***** joke. EVERY hi-sec crew operates the same. Park bricked proteus and vindi's on some undock and when they actually DO agress here comes the flight of neutral logi that never leave the docking ring. It annoyed the out of me when I was DOING the logi, and it annoyed the ** out me when I was the target, because its just silly really. It would take a VERY cursory glance at my killboard before you noticed that I primary roam in small gangs, usually under 30 at that VERY rarely do I fly in blob fleets as DPS. Even then my primary reason for leaving empire what it was pointless. Since for all of their bluster,most piwats sit in station and call you a blobber when you have close to even numbers and then hit you with 3-4 to 1 numbers when they have the opportunity.... ....oh wait, this sounds familiar At least the Heritic guys were always pretty chill, they were fun to smack at, but for the most part I only ever saw them snipe points 200km off the belts and gate.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 07:36:00 - [13] - Quote need to add delete...
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 07:38:00 - [14] - Quote Onictus wrote: Touched a nerve did I P.S. the 130 on a loki was a whelp, something like 200 canes against a same sized baddon fleet witih caps and supers on the field. That was fun. Look back a bit further we go something like 75 rifters on cynabal. ...and 30 is a HUGE fleet? You need to poke your nose out every so often, because I was flying in fleets that size before I could undock a BC.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 12:02:00 - [15] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: No, you didn't touch a nerve really. I'm just pointing out how utterly ******* stupid your own arguments sound. As to 30 being a huge fleet: its not huge but it damn sure isn't "small gangs". Your words Quote: 30 is not a small gang to most of Eve. Liang Nuren wrote: Also: if you've never fought in high sec... how do you know its PVP is a joke? How did the neutral RR annoy you when you were doing it... and when you were its victim? Oh, oh.. the forums told you so! -Liang You think, just for a moment, that maybe I have been on either side of that one? Situations change, sometimes you are the one getting dec'd and pinned in station. Sometimes you are the one helping allies that are pinned in station...or doing the pinning. Don't quote me the forums told me that too Either way I. detest. station. games. Period, I don't like playing them, on defense or offense. I'm a HUGE fan of Logi actually triggering an aggression flag in hi-sec so the neutral logi bullcrap stops. In the roughly year and a half I have played most of that was in Heimatar/Shinq/Molden Heath and Metro. Null for the most part functions exactly the same way, EXCEPT there are real sharks in the water, and there is no docking up to save your ass usually, your fight it out or hope you can beat their cyno. Something that doesn't really happen in low, it basically came down to who had the best scouts, and when everyone pretty much lives in ONE system and rarely comes out, it only takes a little while to know who's where with what. I get a LOT more small gang stuff in Null, that is fleets of 10-25, same thing everyone flys in low.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 16:02:00 - [16] - Quote Naradius wrote: Dethbringer1 wrote: Ah yes forgot about drone skills. Ah, yes...you seem to forget that all races use drones Gallente arguably use them better.....for all the good that does. I have a couple creative drone set ups that are a lot of fun, but still, missiles or nuets generally better served.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.28 16:04:00 - [17] - Quote Julius Foederatus wrote: The issue is still that the fundamental philosophy behind blaster pvp is flawed. You cannot have the shortest range weapons system and not be the fastest race. It does not make sense on a basic level. . Ta Da! Here we have the long and the short of it in two sentences. Its not even that Gallente don't work, they just don't work as well for a LOT of situations. But I'm just a null sec blobber what do I know.
Onictus Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 97	Posted - 2012.02.29 08:13:00 - [18] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: No... fleets of 25 are really uncommon in low sec. Really, really, really uncommon. As in, your "small gang" consists of more people than you're likely to find active in some low sec regions. -Liang Huh? I used to fly in 20+ man fleets about 10 times a week in low sec.....in your neighborhood for that matter. Those were just the ones I was online for. They may be rare in Amamake, that is because usually if you fly in there that deep everything in system docks or safes up.

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