Originally by: Ridley Tree

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Edited by: Ridley Tree on 19/03/2008 19:12:28

Originally by: Kolwrath

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No that wasn't the least elitist or short sighted. No no ... not at all.

Just to make certain I have this straight ... your saying that of the the 78% of the Eve subscriber base that live in high sec (taken from the last economics report)

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76% of Characters live in High Sec. Not 78% of the subscriber base.

There are 460k characters in EVE.
350k in Hi-sec
60k in Low-sec
41k in 0.0

There are an average of 2.04 characters per account. However this is where it gets fun. Mains in low-sec and 0.0 tend to have one or two alts in hi-sec to check market orders, do trading or otherwise sit on their ass. Its a fair assumption to make that 0.0/low-sec dwellers have more alts on the average than carebears in hi-sec. Especially the low-sec dwellers. But I'll just pretend its 1 to 1. 1 alt in hi-sec per character in low-sec/0.0

249k Characters in hi-sec
60k in low-sec
41k in 0.0
101k low-sec/0.0 alts in hi-sec. At least.

So now lets get back to the 2 characters per account. Since we've assumed that there is an average of 1 hi-sec alt to each low sec character (personally I've got 1 Pirate main. 1 'assistant' main who is hi-sec capable and 4 hi-sec trading alts so honestly I expect the real number to be in the 1-1.5 range with people like me skewing it higher) We can make the assumption that there are in fact ~101k Accounts in low-sec and nul-sec. Unless you think most hi-sec players have non-skilled alts in 0.0?

Since there are 249k characters in hi-sec who are not pirate alts, and there are 2 accounts per player, we can assume there are ~124k Accounts in hi-sec.

Economics report says there are 220k active subscribers. My numbers come out to 225k. Rounding errors as I pretty much ignored past the decimal.

So 44% of Subscribers live in 0.0/low-sec. 56% of subscribers live in Hi-sec.

Now lets run your numbers.

1/2 of hi-sec dwellers are mission runners.

124k x .5 = 62k ( 54.6k if we use your incorrect 195k active account figure, ie you were off the ~correct number by ~40% ).

So Mission runners make up 28% of the player-base.

Its not a number that can be ignored. This is a conservative number that I think slightly exaggerates the amount of hi-sec accounts. But its not the bull**** number you have. This also ignores that the 0.0 and low-sec players are likely to be much longer-term players and subscriber in comparison to hi-sec dwellers. And lets also ignore the number of 0.0/low-sec people whose alts mission ***** in hi-sec but are ultimately tied to 0.0 accounts.

/edited to fix some swapped numbers.

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Originally by: Bullvynne

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As pirates claim themselves, they are the 'risk' in 'risk/reward'. Now what do they risk? Are they in any danger from miners/haulers/mission runners? Nope..So what do they risk to be a pirate?

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Originally by: Massillon

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and here's an afterthought.

I can't even GET to .0 for being ganked. I'm not AFK piloting - every jump is WTZ. The gang on the far side of the gate can lock, scramble and destroy me after I uncloak and before I finish aligning.

enjoy the loot. No, I won't fit more T2 next time.

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Originally by: Twin blade

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Pirate's don't want to fight ANY one they want a easy fast gank any kind of fight show's up they bolt so fast you can't read there name on local.

The anit pirate's go around looking for a fight and if there lucky they will get one and pod the pirate who was to slow or just not looking.

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Originally by: Becq Starforged

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It's relatively easy for pirates to stay in the yellow sec-status levels unless they are actively trying to be red or just don't care.

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