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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.03.21 01:34:00 -
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MACTEP's corp, Solar Dragons, were kicked without warning from Red Alliance earlier today by nync. For anyone who doesn't know, SDG are one of the old school RA corps that fought 5ive and the 'first' coalition. At the time, MACTEP was the RA leader with his successor nync taking over following the LV war.
SDG POS in the drone regions will lose sovereignty and their outpost might become vulnerable soon. I'm not too sure what effect this has on the war over there, because I haven't been keeping track.. But I'd guess they will lose a few weeks of progress in kicking ATLAS.
There has been some internal drama over the fact that everyone in the alliance is doing their own thing. SDG and some other corps are warring in the drone regions from their private outpost. I'm being told these will most likely leave RA and create a new alliance with SDG. If that happens, the station probably will become vulnerable. I haven't checked if RA have given standings to SDG for removal of assets, but I imagine it would be hard felt betrayal if they don't.
Otherwise, nync's corp and a few others are monopolizing Dysprosium and Prometium moons around EVE, raking in what someone once estimated to me was over 400bil a month. I don't think its that high, but either way they're taking it seriously.
And of course, there are people fighting BoB, roaming across EVE, carebearing and generally doing their own thing.
A friend connected to this seems to have an interesting theory: RAT and Solar Dragons still dislike each other from the days when RAT splintered away to form AAA - and it was they who lobbied for SDG removal.
Speculation only, but I can easily see that MACTEP having a loyal base of supporters would be a problem to nync.
XenoBytes are more or less invading Coalition space, who are not likely to get assistance from their Russian allies. If the SDG thing goes down harder, you could have three fronts (with the third being BoB).
Four fronts if you include the fact that AAA leaders are, once again, considering removing IAC standings over some recent treacheries.
Given that there are about a hundred different Russian groups in EVE now, and hundreds more with Russian members.. its a bad time to be expecting nationalist identity to fix all problems.
And a great time to offer your services as Grand Tsar of the Holy Red Armada. Privjet O_o _Voo _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.03.21 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Salastil Pretty damn amusing that the drone regions fear a lone 200 man corporation as Alliances that have 10x more members.
That's because GoonSwarm did a pretty good job of padding RA's reputation. Back when GS was still justifying the alliance to its members, you were saying ridiculous things like how RA bravely stood up to a force of 10,000+ with almost nothing.
Of course, most people don't realize just how close RA were to being broken, or what they did to survive. 3 year old details get in the way of good lore _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2008.03.21 01:53:00 -
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No, but by then, they weren't under threat of retreating to empire. I'm not dissing RA's achievements, but you're sounding surprised that people are wary of them without ever having fought them.
The more impressive thing with RA is their capitalistic prowess. I don't think any other group has focused on becoming stupidly rich as consistently as they have. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.03.21 02:35:00 -
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For whatever reason you always react to my (epic) words, Dungar Loghoth. You should have just kept your mouth shut and let MACTEP or nync respond, but instead you're playing a fireman who can't work his hose. In this situation, your transparent damage control isn't any more welcome or effective than my perceived warmongering.
ps: newb _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2008.03.21 02:40:00 -
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Hey we just met, no need to start talkin dirty. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2008.03.21 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Frygok Also, itt Evil Thug shoots down Digi!
Wha _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.03.21 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 21/03/2008 16:21:43
Originally by: Farham
Page 3 Digi. Evil Thug just called you a liar.
Oh, found it. And no he didn't.
Originally by: Moon Kitten It's nice to see exactly zero posts by the parties involved. Yet you ******s have managed to produce 5 pages of ****. Congratulations.
GoonSwarm is on every page of this thread. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.03.21 22:35:00 -
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Since we're not likely to see an official post here, the following is a half-arsed translation of MACTEP's post on EVE-RU regarding the reasons. If anyone wants to correct spelling and grammar, go nuts.
"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark"
tl;dr summary:
There isn't one, suck it up. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.03.23 06:42:00 -
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Gross! I agree with Goberth Ludwig!
Lag isn't fun, but talking about a force which you have little control over, and which doesn't change the outcome of wars is worthless.
If you don't want lag, there are plenty of ways to play EVE without it. Most of them are irrelevant to the big picture, and unfortunately there are too many egos in EVE who couldn't live with that.
That drama is pretty nasty, but I'm surprised that a 5 year old RA player is saying that his alliance is full of worthless idiots and carebears. Every alliance has this problem without exception, its how your leadership mitigate it that counts.
In my opinion, everyone got comfortable with thinking the alliance would stay efficient and powerful just because it was at some point in time. No, being at the top in EVE requires constant competition and work. One of the best ways to fall down is to believe your own hype.
The trouble is that you've usually lost the edge long before you accept it, because it takes quite a lot of time for someone to either point out the obvious (out of courage or brashness) or some alliance to prove you wrong.
Instead of booting the people who talk about the problem, the current leadership should be booting people who are the problem and maintaining an attitude where people understand its never 'good enough', and eventually push themselves to be better. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.03.23 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 23/03/2008 15:43:54
Originally by: FinrodFelagund Lag doesnt win wars?
People leave because of lag.
20 smash carriers died because of lag (well mainly id assume i wasnt there) 2 tri motherships didnt die because of lag?
Eve is all about morale, and losing **** due to something beyond your control is nearly inexcusable and is a massive morale blow.
Lag didn't put their ships into structure, they were shot at by other enemy ships. People would rather hold onto the hope that it would have been different without lag, instead of accepting the responsibility that they put themselves into a bad position, and the enemy capitalized on it. Cause that would mean giving props.
Even if you could somehow prove the morale issues are due to lag, and not a combination of frustrations with the alliance, your enemy is experiencing the same thing. Even if you win PVP fights that are mega laggy, there isn't much satisfaction when you do 50 jumps just to get black-holled.
Not to mention that people tend to be quiet when lag saves them.
Individual battles are affected by lag, but they affect both sides equally for the most part. But I've never seen a single war won because of it. War in EVE is about which side is willing to endure more **** to win, and lag is like battlefield trauma. It breaks the weak whose heart was never in it to begin with. Which is fine, just don't cry about it. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
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