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Myz Toyou
Bite me inc.
Exhale.
32
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:07:00 -
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Few things that havent been mentioned so far in this thread:
- If you anchore a Caldari tower you mentally challenged anyway
- If you fly a Caldari cap ship you mentally challenged anyway
As everyone in EVE thinks he is the smartest gift given to earth, we should have none of the 2 things mentioned above on the server which makes the OPs fears moot.
Or it makes his post just an well executed troll, well done. |
gfldex
328
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:21:00 -
[62] - Quote
Myz Toyou wrote:
- If you anchore a Caldari tower you mentally challenged anyway
If you don't understand the value of Caldari Towers, the challenge is with you. Little hint, invention is _forcing_ you to bring BPCs.
The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |
The Groundskeeper
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:30:00 -
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Oxygen Isotopes wrote:It should be pointed out that 'Goons' are not doing ice interdiction again. We did that already. There was one corp that was bored and so they killed a bunch of miners all over the place. Mainly close to Jita. I don't know if you've seen their killboard, but they stopped awhile ago.
Actually, the Bat Country Annual Mittani-For-CSM Participatory Democracy Jamboree is still very much alive, and should today hit its 666th dead exhumer in two weeks later today.
The question for those who rely on empire for their ice supplies has to be whether this is a feint before hitting a different ices with our thousands of alliance members (Bat Country are less than 200-strong); whether it is just one bored corp and will wear off; or whether it is deliberately lowering reserves ahead of a full-scale attack on nitrogen isotopes, as occurred with oxygen isotopes last year.
There is a lot of money to be made if you can guess the correct answer. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
292
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:32:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:Man, there's been a lot of Goon hatred lately. I don't like them, but jeez, I don't even know if they deserve this level of mud slinging. CSM elections eh?
Nah, started way before that...
This article (while not extremely informative) - is pretty balanced (i.e. - they don't try to interpret he actions, other than letting the primaries speak for themselves) and it kinda gives a rundown of where they were at - you can extrapolate from there...
Wired Article - NNSFW
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online:
No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Nomad I
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:36:00 -
[65] - Quote
The Goons are innocent in this case. 
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Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
77
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:52:00 -
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Ajita al Tchar wrote:Lol @ tards who keep making Goon posts. Every one of these posts has a chance to be the last straw that breaks the empire. Oh wait, no, it's just another hurf blurf.
Goons start these threads with their alts, gives their mains a chance a forum warrior. |
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
377
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:54:00 -
[67] - Quote
People still don't stock on years worth of fuel when the fuel prices are low? 
Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2012.02.23 13:57:00 -
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"We're not here to ruin the game. We're here to ruin YOUR game."
I'm not sure why you guys keep whining at them. You know their stance, tears/words do nothing...and why should they?
If the game is taken so seriously that you can't handle disruption, it's no longer a game to you and you should step away from the keyboard.
/soapbox. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1097
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Posted - 2012.02.23 14:03:00 -
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The way I see it, you can only go around kicking people in the balls so much before you **** enough people off bad enough that they retaliate. Goons will get theirs in due time. If you are really that upset with them over the crap they pull then just be there when it happens and get yourself on some Goon killmails.
The only good Goon is a dead Goon.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.02.23 14:43:00 -
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Join BoB 5.0, right now 4.0 is already fighting so they don't want to take in SPAIs.
The Groundskeeper wrote:Oxygen Isotopes wrote:It should be pointed out that 'Goons' are not doing ice interdiction again. We did that already. There was one corp that was bored and so they killed a bunch of miners all over the place. Mainly close to Jita. I don't know if you've seen their killboard, but they stopped awhile ago. Actually, the Bat Country Annual Mittani-For-CSM Participatory Democracy Jamboree is still very much alive, and should today hit its 666th dead exhumer in two weeks later today.
Hm, well all the best as they try to reach for 1000 before the polls open>
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
41
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Posted - 2012.02.23 14:44:00 -
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OP, it seems you don't understand Eve very well, and rather than accept the situation and adapt/profit, you decided to come onto GD and sperge.
Let me explain something to you, and you might learn something about Eve in the process. You see, Goons are currently at war with some of the Supercap heavy alliances in game. In addition to POS's, supers (and regular caps) require the same fuels to move around. More expensive fuel can cause problems. This is a smart way for the goons to cost the price of the war up for their enemies (I understand the reason for targeting Girlantee fuels, but why crapdari? Chimera pilot with lot's of fuel reserves checking in) .
Now most null sec alliances don't have the capacity/willingness to mine their own ice in null, so most of it is imported from empire. The more an alliance has to spend on fuel to keep their caps (including the very important jump freighter) moving and POS's/Jump bridges fueled, the less money they have for things like reimbursing members ship loses, and keeping ships/mods on the market at a reasonable price. In the short term this doesn't really matter, but eventually it may cause them to think twice before deploying shps that cost a lot to replace, or the cost of moving caps might outweigh the potential gains. The average member who may have to fuel their own cap might decide that 50 mil to move some ships from a to b is to much so just flies one or two ships to a new deployment area, or they only have 1 of each ship type rather than two because the market prices have risen to offset fuel costs, so they are less effective than they would be if they had multiple shiptypes + spares.
I'm not saying that this is the case, I suspect that this is really done for tears, but ultimately doing things like is just a form of economic warfare. Either way, this is why I and many others love Eve. If you don't like it, or refuse to educate yourself about why things like this can be important (and extremely interesting), perhaps you should try one of the many theme-park MMO's where competition is non-existent, you can have no impact on the game world or those around you, loss means nothing, and everything is fair.
Adapt or die. Failure to plan for the future is no ones fault but your own. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.02.23 14:56:00 -
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Hush, you're letting them know that (super)caps are the only thing preventing us from taking over the world.
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2381
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Posted - 2012.02.23 14:58:00 -
[73] - Quote
laffo you morons got scammed by riverini
i may have posted this in this thread already but it deserves repeating |
TheButcherPete
Titan Inc.
Bloodbound.
74
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Posted - 2012.02.23 15:00:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Mors Magne wrote:Don't get mad - get even. Don't get mad - Get better.
Got mad? Go fap.
:3 I am Petey :3
Petey is smexy
Smexy is Pete |
Mallak Azaria
Dominus Nex Angelus
58
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Posted - 2012.02.23 15:04:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita.
Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer.
But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths.
It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
Nowhere does your argument solidify your view on Goons having ruined the game. They've infact made it slightly more challenging & fun, which is the whole point of a of a game. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
1015
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Posted - 2012.02.23 15:06:00 -
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I bought Caldari ice about a week before this started, on a hunch that this was coming. I unloaded about half of it last night, made an easy billion isk. Probably dropping the rest tonight.
Thanks, Goons :) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.02.23 15:06:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:laffo you morons got scammed by riverini
i may have posted this in this thread already but it deserves repeating
I heard he wasted 100m putting a bounty on one of us.
It was a nice donation to someone, I don't know what happened but you can imagine...
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Luh Windan
S T R A T C O M
NEM3SIS.
59
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Posted - 2012.02.23 15:46:00 -
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so first off:
sandbox doesn't' mean - I can do what I want on my own without interaction with other people
and
MMO doesn't meant you can't work solo - you are still interacting with other people who provide danger and competition.
Eve is like life - if you are poor you have to work to the rules and you'll get trodden on by other more powerful people. The richer you become, and that doesn't just mean ISK but other resources like armies of people willing to do what you ask, the game changes and you have more opportunities to play the game in different ways. Those different ways will impact the "little" people but at that stage you are unlikely to care.
Your choice is if you want to remain one of the little people or you aspire to bigger things
The leadership of the goons are playing large and indeed in a way designed to wind others up - but the thing is: it doesn't make them sociopaths as some claim - no one is going to die, become homeless or go hungry - they are experimenting within the rules* to see what happens.
That's Eve (and I'm coming to see there are many layers of this game - I would not be surprised if there are metagames beyond the rough collations of alliances either). Complaining that people are playing the game is a bit like going onto a football pitch during a football match and complaining that other people want the ball....
*within the rules being a lose definition - just as with the 1% in RL, within the rules basically means what you can get away with without punished in a way you can't afford |
N'baro Dark
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 16:08:00 -
[79] - Quote
I've been trading for over 6 years. Market manipulation is what it's all about.
My admiration goes out to them if they're managing to profit big off it.
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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
43
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Posted - 2012.02.23 16:15:00 -
[80] - Quote
It's only one large corporation in goons doing the ganking. It's not all of goons, nor is it alliance event.
In other news,
WELCOME TO THE SANDBOX. |
Wacktopia
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
190
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Posted - 2012.02.23 16:19:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita.
Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
*snip*
I have to disagree with you. The fact that things like this are possible is what makes EVE such a great game.
I'm sorry you can't deal with this.
Have I been affected by this type of thing? Sure I have.
Vote Alekseyev Karrde for CSM7. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67574
Get War Decs, Sov, Low Sec that works.-á |
TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
67
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Posted - 2012.02.23 16:43:00 -
[82] - Quote
Warr Akini wrote:baltec1 wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:
So they managed to hike the price right up, I wonder if they have a huge stock pile of the stuff that they're now making lots of money off.
Not anymore  Not empty-quoting for truth.
can I have some of your stuff please.
if politeness doesn't work on goons
oi **** giz ma your ****!!! |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
9
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Posted - 2012.02.23 17:00:00 -
[83] - Quote
Goons now have their own TV show Goon trailer |
TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
67
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Posted - 2012.02.23 17:18:00 -
[84] - Quote
This looks way better |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
53
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Posted - 2012.02.23 17:34:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote: who have well in excess of 6000 votes available within their mains and alts (2000 in goonswarm, plus the alt on those accounts, plus who knows how many other non-goon affiliated alt accounts), to split their votes to elect a lot of people to the CSM.
You do know you vore per account and not per character, right.
Next to that they ofcourse find other sources of income just incase MoonGoo get's worked over.
As for voting for Test candidates.
Voting for them is not that different from voting from their puppetmasters the Goons. So basicly they can be counted as Goons just aswel.
Same gamestyle, Just not the history to back it up not the loudmouth to lead them.
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Tessla Coil
Pirannha Corp
4
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Posted - 2012.02.23 17:52:00 -
[86] - Quote
Killer Gandry wrote:Tessla Coil wrote: who have well in excess of 6000 votes available within their mains and alts (2000 in goonswarm, plus the alt on those accounts, plus who knows how many other non-goon affiliated alt accounts), to split their votes to elect a lot of people to the CSM.
You do know you vore per account and not per character, right. Next to that they ofcourse find other sources of income just incase MoonGoo get's worked over. As for voting for Test candidates. Voting for them is not that different from voting from their puppetmasters the Goons. So basicly they can be counted as Goons just aswel. Same gamestyle, Just not the history to back it up not the loudmouth to lead them.
According to EveWho, ggonswarm now numbers 7590 members.
Test, their puppet's, is another 5500 members.
Those 2 groups, with all their alt accounts, can and will dominate CSM voting. |
Battle On
Jita Exiles
Cowpunching Overlords With Sovereignty
5
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Posted - 2012.02.23 17:55:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita.
Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer.
But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths.
It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
get decent PI skills and make the fuel yourself. then it wont cost you anything, just 2 hours of hauling every week or so and 10 minutes setting up the cycles a day
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M5 Tuttle
The Shadow Plague
BLACK-MARK
31
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Posted - 2012.02.23 18:24:00 -
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WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!! THE MITTANI IS OBVIOUSLY A REPTILIAN ZIONIST ALIEN. HE CONTROLS ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AND IS ATTEMPTING TO SUBJUGATE THE MASSES THROUGH CONTROLLING ALL MONETARY TRANSACTION!!
RON PAUL 2012!! |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
125
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Posted - 2012.02.23 18:39:00 -
[89] - Quote
The internet is serious business.
You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
42
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Posted - 2012.02.23 18:40:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:Killer Gandry wrote:Tessla Coil wrote: who have well in excess of 6000 votes available within their mains and alts (2000 in goonswarm, plus the alt on those accounts, plus who knows how many other non-goon affiliated alt accounts), to split their votes to elect a lot of people to the CSM.
You do know you vore per account and not per character, right. Next to that they ofcourse find other sources of income just incase MoonGoo get's worked over. As for voting for Test candidates. Voting for them is not that different from voting from their puppetmasters the Goons. So basicly they can be counted as Goons just aswel. Same gamestyle, Just not the history to back it up not the loudmouth to lead them. According to EveWho, ggonswarm now numbers 7590 members. Test, their puppet's, is another 5500 members. Those 2 groups, with all their alt accounts, can and will dominate CSM voting.
How dare large social groups vote for the candidate from their community that represents their interest's!!
It's fixed I tell you, fixed. You should never be able to vote for someone that is in your alliance or coalition, allowing people to do so is the equivilent of vote rigging. Those cheaters!!
For the record, although I dislike goons, you can't deny that The Mittani is an interesting person who create's drama and content for thousands of players. If he can get the support, why shouldn't he sit on the CSM? I know I am voting for the Representative from my southern alliance, why wouldn't I?
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