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Tessla Coil
Pirannha Corp
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:49:00 -
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I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer. But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths. It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:51:00 -
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Ahaha, wait it's true? You guys actually interdicted YOURSELVES? Oh that's bloody great.
Next up is hydrogen guys, start buying now! That's hydrogen, go out and buy it before it gets interdicted!
P.S. Bit busy blowing up ~elite pvp~. Be back to gank you later. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Valentyn3
44
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:53:00 -
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Everyone on the internet is a horrible human being. Eve was just designed to allow people to exercise their douche bag impulses. I used to be a Blade Runner like you, then I took an android to the knee... |

Azriel Geist
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:55:00 -
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Man, there's been a lot of Goon hatred lately. I don't like them, but jeez, I don't even know if they deserve this level of mud slinging. CSM elections eh? |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
899
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:55:00 -
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Giggles. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
408
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Posted - 2012.02.23 04:58:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:Congrats Goons, you have managed to wreck the game for a number of players, again
This is what goons do.
You should petition your loss.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Ai Shun
303
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:01:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Wait, so market manipulation destroys your enjoyment in the game? I'm sensing opportunity here. Not quite sure what, but when markets behave oddly there is usually a quick buck to be made somewhere. I'd think any Industrialist / Trader worth his salt would be looking for the opportunity instead of crying because somebody is playing with the markets.
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Mors Magne
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:02:00 -
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Don't get mad - get even. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3267
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:02:00 -
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Work smarter not harder.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3267
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:03:00 -
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Mors Magne wrote:Don't get mad - get even.
Don't get mad - Get better.
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Roll Sizzle Beef
54
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:03:00 -
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Azriel Geist wrote:Man, there's been a lot of Goon hatred lately. I don't like them, but jeez, I don't even know if they deserve this level of mud slinging. CSM elections eh? A lot of self hating. Because any publicity is good publicity. Specially when you make the haters look completely inept compared to the hated. |

Tessla Coil
Pirannha Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:16:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Tessla Coil wrote:I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game. Wait, so market manipulation destroys your enjoyment in the game? I'm sensing opportunity here. Not quite sure what, but when markets behave oddly there is usually a quick buck to be made somewhere. I'd think any Industrialist / Trader worth his salt would be looking for the opportunity instead of crying because somebody is playing with the markets.
True, the 23K/ Caldari Fuel Block is a spike, which will likely be absorbed with 36-48 hours. But the 800 ISK/unit of Nitrogen Isotopes is more systemic, based on the Goon supported interdiction of all ice mining in about 5 Caldari regions.
And like I said, I personally am fine with this, as I prepared. I am just generally angry with the goon's ability and enjoyment of destroying the game for many.
Given that they plan on completely controlling the next CSM, I recognize that this current asshattery is child's play compared to what they will have in store once they have total control of CCP's ear.
That is what burns me more than anything else.
I have chars in high sec, I have chars in null sec, I have had chars living in wh's. All forms of playstyle in the the game are viable choices and cater to various real life personalities and time constraints of players.
Unfortunately, the high sec style of play will be made extinct if goons and the other null sec alliances have their way, which is become increasing likely given their control of the CSM. |

Valentyn3
44
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:21:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Tessla Coil wrote:I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game. Wait, so market manipulation destroys your enjoyment in the game? I'm sensing opportunity here. Not quite sure what, but when markets behave oddly there is usually a quick buck to be made somewhere. I'd think any Industrialist / Trader worth his salt would be looking for the opportunity instead of crying because somebody is playing with the markets. True, the 23K/ Caldari Fuel Block is a spike, which will likely be absorbed with 36-48 hours. But the 800 ISK/unit of Nitrogen Isotopes is more systemic, based on the Goon supported interdiction of all ice mining in about 5 Caldari regions. And like I said, I personally am fine with this, as I prepared. I am just generally angry with the goon's ability and enjoyment of destroying the game for many. Given that they plan on completely controlling the next CSM, I recognize that this current asshattery is child's play compared to what they will have in store once they have total control of CCP's ear. That is what burns me more than anything else. I have chars in high sec, I have chars in null sec, I have had chars living in wh's. All forms of playstyle in the the game are viable choices and cater to various real life personalities and time constraints of players. Unfortunately, the high sec style of play will be made extinct if goons and the other null sec alliances have their way, which is become increasing likely given their control of the CSM.
Goons are planning on getting CCP to remove high sec missions and concordadoukens?  I used to be a Blade Runner like you, then I took an android to the knee... |

Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
649
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:22:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Mors Magne wrote:Don't get mad - get even. Don't get mad - Get better.
Don't get Mad,
Get
KELMAD. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |

Hainnz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:23:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:Unfortunately, the high sec style of play will be made extinct if goons and the other null sec alliances have their way, which is become increasing likely given their control of the CSM.
Don't worry. To paraphrase, "As High-Sec goes, so goes EVE." |

Craggus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:24:00 -
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Fly to VFK about it. |

Valentyn3
44
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:29:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Mors Magne wrote:Don't get mad - get even. Don't get mad - Get better.
Don't get mad - get Glad! I used to be a Blade Runner like you, then I took an android to the knee... |

Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
122
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:31:00 -
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Never been much of a Goon fan, but when I hear about things like this it makes me dislike them less and less. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
899
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:33:00 -
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Don't get mad, get plaid. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Mathis Athins
Paragon. Elite Space Guild
3
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:36:00 -
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The whole point of gaming is to do things you couldn't/wouldn't do in real life. Not surprising then you get alot of gamers whole act like *INSERT PREFERRED EXPLETIVE*s.
Tessla Coil wrote:[quote=Ai Shun][quote=Tessla Coil] Given that they plan on completely controlling the next CSM, I recognize that this current asshattery is child's play compared to what they will have in store once they have total control of CCP's ear.
Last I counted there is a grand total of one GSF member (The Mittani) running for CSM. I don't think there is even another CFC member running. How are Goons going to control the CSM with one member?
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Ajita al Tchar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:47:00 -
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Lol @ tards who keep making Goon posts. Every one of these posts has a chance to be the last straw that breaks the empire. Oh wait, no, it's just another hurf blurf. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:48:00 -
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Mathis Athins wrote:Last I counted there is a grand total of one GSF member (The Mittani) running for CSM. I don't think there is even another CFC member running. How are Goons going to control the CSM with one member? The Mittani is just that awesome I guess.
Ajita al Tchar wrote:Lol @ tards who keep making Goon posts. Every one of these posts has a chance to be the last straw that breaks the empire. Oh wait, no, it's just another hurf blurf. Hehe Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Craggus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:52:00 -
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Mathis Athins wrote: Last I counted there is a grand total of one GSF member (The Mittani) running for CSM. I don't think there is even another CFC member running. How are Goons going to control the CSM with one member?
We have the Dovi Bus running.
Obligatory BEEP BEEP.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
899
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:53:00 -
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Craggus wrote:Mathis Athins wrote: Last I counted there is a grand total of one GSF member (The Mittani) running for CSM. I don't think there is even another CFC member running. How are Goons going to control the CSM with one member?
We have the Dovi Bus running. Obligatory BEEP BEEP.
There are in fact three TEST candidates on the ballot. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.02.23 05:57:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:There are in fact three TEST candidates on the ballot. Aww, not voting for The Mittani?
Actually, right I forgot tons of goons are running also. Maybe next year I will not be such a newbie and can run.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Tessla Coil
Pirannha Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:01:00 -
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Mathis Athins wrote:The whole point of gaming is to do things you couldn't/wouldn't do in real life. Not surprising then you get alot of gamers whole act like *INSERT PREFERRED EXPLETIVE*s. Tessla Coil wrote:[quote=Ai Shun][quote=Tessla Coil] Given that they plan on completely controlling the next CSM, I recognize that this current asshattery is child's play compared to what they will have in store once they have total control of CCP's ear.
Last I counted there is a grand total of one GSF member (The Mittani) running for CSM. I don't think there is even another CFC member running. How are Goons going to control the CSM with one member?
Last I saw there were 2 goons running, though one was "not endorsed by goons'. Plus, it is quite simple, even expected, to have alt's of goon's running.
There was a blog a few months ago, which I cannot find right now, that did an analysis on how many votes were needed to win a seat on the last CSM. It was something like 1300-1500 votes to get elected last time. It is a pretty simple thing for goons, who have well in excess of 6000 votes available within their mains and alts (2000 in goonswarm, plus the alt on those accounts, plus who knows how many other non-goon affiliated alt accounts), to split their votes to elect a lot of people to the CSM.
Mittani may be an evil jerk, but he is far from stupid. He can easily have a strawmen/puppets running as a rep for high sec interests, another for wormhole interests, a few apparently non-goon related people running as well.
All can be elected and then "Surprise, we all are goons!" The smart play of course is to keep that fact under tight wraps even after the election. That NDA is a wonderful tool to muzzle anyone from stating precisely what interests were represented by whom.
Now, I do believe that Kelduum from Eve UNI will get in, since he also has a large potential voting bloc there. But rest assured, when the voting is done, the scaled down CSM (was 7 reps + 7 alternates, now 5+5) will be goon-dominated. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2153
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:18:00 -
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How is The Mittani's CSM campaign relevant to Bat Country's ice interdiction? yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
899
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:20:00 -
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Andski wrote:How is The Mittani's CSM campaign relevant to Bat Country's ice interdiction?
You can reason with a man, but you can't reason with a drug. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:24:00 -
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And all you highsec sheep will do is continue to bleat as the monster picks off your weak and wounded. If Bat Country's actions are causing such hardships, then stop them. There is nothing preventing you from putting an end to their predations other than your own fear. |

Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
322
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:26:00 -
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Goons laboring to destroy the game? Working as intended. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |

Toto Zinny
GWA Corp
2
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:33:00 -
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I remember playing a game were the equivalent to the 'goons' were a guild called 'scum'. They ruined the game for many and eventually the server became a ghost town. Let's hope that doesn't happen in Eve.  |

Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:35:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:Goons laboring to destroy the game? Working as intended.
Yes we're working to destroy the game we love to play .
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Mathis Athins
Paragon. Elite Space Guild
3
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:39:00 -
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Well it seems I missed something. Either way don't give the tin foil hat people extra ammunition. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
899
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:42:00 -
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Toto Zinny wrote:I remember playing a game were the equivalent to the 'goons' were a guild called 'scum'. They ruined the game for many and eventually the server became a ghost town. Let's hope that doesn't happen in Eve. 
Goon antics are a very large part of why a lot of people even started playing EVE. Their propaganda too. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:49:00 -
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Andski wrote:How is The Mittani's CSM campaign relevant to Bat Country's ice interdiction? Oh, so it's Bat Country doing something.
Ok, then I guess we did something after all. Huh. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5035
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Posted - 2012.02.23 06:58:00 -
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Wow. That was by far the most idiotic OP I've seen in a very very long timeGǪ 
Good to see people derailing the thread so effectively.
Just for the record, OP: what you're doing is claiming that, say, building hotels in Monopoly is the mark of a sociopath. Naturally, this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and rather suggest that you have sever problems separating game and real life. That's a pretty nasty psychological affliction, and the clinical psychologist you're suggesting would probably be better off starting with youGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Ai Shun
303
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:02:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:I am just generally angry with the goon's ability and enjoyment of destroying the game for many.
That is EVE. It is what it is about.
Tessla Coil wrote:Given that they plan on completely controlling the next CSM, I recognize that this current asshattery is child's play compared to what they will have in store once they have total control of CCP's ear.
The CSM does not control CCP. They can make suggestions. At the same time; you as a player have the power to make a suggestion (In the appropriate forum), agitate for support and force the CSM to table it. That is your power. You can exercise it if you wish.
By the same token:
Quote:which is become increasing likely given their control of the CSM.
Is rubbish. You know that some of the elements in the recent CSM minutes are there because they were necessary. The spread from the last minutes was pretty damn good.
Tessla Coil wrote:That is what burns me more than anything else.
It burns me too when I see people complain without using the power at their own disposal. It also burns me when I see this type of thread. The Goons are assholes, but they play EVE well. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:15:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Tessla Coil wrote:[quote=Tessla Coil]That is what burns me more than anything else. It burns me too when I see people complain without using the power at their own disposal. It also burns me when I see this type of thread. The Goons are assholes, but they play EVE well. They have the power to burn us all on the EVE-O forums, and they use that power a whole damn lot!
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
167
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:24:00 -
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GSF 2012: making pubbies mad by not even doing anything
:smug: |

Ai Shun
303
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:25:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:They have the power to burn us all on the EVE-O forums, and they use that power a whole damn lot!
Only if you worry about what is said. The Goons as an entity never struck me as being overly sensitive. Well, perhaps Weaslior (Did I spell that right) His last thread was damn near hysterically funny. God emperor indeed.
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Lexmana
Imperial Stout
223
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:34:00 -
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This was fun! Thanks OP. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:46:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:They have the power to burn us all on the EVE-O forums, and they use that power a whole damn lot! Only if you worry about what is said. The Goons as an entity never struck me as being overly sensitive. Well, perhaps Weaslior (Did I spell that right) His last thread was damn near hysterically funny. God emperor indeed. Oh no, it was just about you burning.
I had entirely forgotten that Bat County had decided to go and gank (by now 600) Exhumers to the Mittani. I was corrected by someone earlier who reminded me that, even in war, ganking alts can be used.
Especially since we now have TiDi, am I right? Nothing like 10% TiDi to (give you time to?) mess with a miner's ISK PER HOUR.
HELIC0N ONE wrote:GSF 2012: making pubbies mad by not even doing anything
:smug: We even got CCP to help my slowing down time instead of just crashing the servers. We're doing real swell. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
340
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:52:00 -
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Put the keyboard down and step away from the "New Topic" button |

baltec1
670
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:54:00 -
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Greetings from Bat Country.
My aploogies for being late but even we must slumber as destroying the hopes and dreams of others can be taxing. I would just like to take the time to say that we hear your lamenting over the loss of your ice chariots of the sky and the resulting sky rocketing of such things as ice blocks and have this to say to comfort you in this time of hardship. Yes we have become very rich in the last 24 hours as the sap suckers of jita hoover up ice in the expectation of hugh profits as we wage our war upon the Frost Giants.
Wouldn't it be unfortunate if we stopped now and all of these pro market traders lost their billions? We wouldn't do that, would we?
We have had a grand old time celebrating democracy in the run up to the CSM elections, which by the way, matter and you should be voting for the Dear Leader so that he may continue his quest to make EVE a better place for all.
As always, if you are accidently caught up in our war then you can fill out this form as well as contacting me for our miner protection program which for a nominal fee will get you put onto a list of the forgiven and allow you to take full advantage of these sky high prices. |

Anthemius Heb
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 08:52:00 -
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Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer. But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths. It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
You give these people way too much credit, really. They're a group of arse holes who follow a bigger arse hole and do things to **** people off. They do it in games because it's the only place they have any influence or confidence. In real life they're just kids in adult bodies. If they attempted any of the stuff they do in games they'd be smacked down so hard they wouldn't know what hit them. You don't have to play this game - there are millions of other games to play. If they ruin it for you just find another. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
900
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Posted - 2012.02.23 08:55:00 -
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Anthemius Heb wrote:~raging rant~
Man, you'd be sooooooo pissed if you ever met a goon IRL or knew anything about The Mittani. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

Anthemius Heb
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:01:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Anthemius Heb wrote:~raging rant~ Man, you'd be sooooooo pissed if you ever met a goon IRL or knew anything about The Mittani.
I doubt it - I really couldn't care less. Like, really. Even if they're all the exact opposite of what I said, I just don't care. It's a game, and getting yourself worked up over groups of infantile adults like that is folly. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
607
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:01:00 -
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Mathis Athins wrote:The whole point of gaming is to do things you couldn't/wouldn't do in real life. Not surprising then you get alot of gamers whole act like *INSERT PREFERRED EXPLETIVE*s. Tessla Coil wrote:[quote=Ai Shun][quote=Tessla Coil] Given that they plan on completely controlling the next CSM, I recognize that this current asshattery is child's play compared to what they will have in store once they have total control of CCP's ear.
Last I counted there is a grand total of one GSF member (The Mittani) running for CSM. I don't think there is even another CFC member running. How are Goons going to control the CSM with one member? Learn to count |

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
316
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:19:00 -
[49] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:Mathis Athins wrote:The whole point of gaming is to do things you couldn't/wouldn't do in real life. Not surprising then you get alot of gamers whole act like *INSERT PREFERRED EXPLETIVE*s. Tessla Coil wrote:[quote=Ai Shun][quote=Tessla Coil] Given that they plan on completely controlling the next CSM, I recognize that this current asshattery is child's play compared to what they will have in store once they have total control of CCP's ear.
Last I counted there is a grand total of one GSF member (The Mittani) running for CSM. I don't think there is even another CFC member running. How are Goons going to control the CSM with one member? Last I saw there were 2 goons running, though one was "not endorsed by goons'. Plus, it is quite simple, even expected, to have alt's of goon's running. There was a blog a few months ago, which I cannot find right now, that did an analysis on how many votes were needed to win a seat on the last CSM. It was something like 1300-1500 votes to get elected last time. It is a pretty simple thing for goons, who have well in excess of 6000 votes available within their mains and alts (2000 in goonswarm, plus the alt on those accounts, plus who knows how many other non-goon affiliated alt accounts), to split their votes to elect a lot of people to the CSM. Mittani may be an evil jerk, but he is far from stupid. He can easily have a strawmen/puppets running as a rep for high sec interests, another for wormhole interests, a few apparently non-goon related people running as well. All can be elected and then "Surprise, we all are goons!" The smart play of course is to keep that fact under tight wraps even after the election. That NDA is a wonderful tool to muzzle anyone from stating precisely what interests were represented by whom. Now, I do believe that Kelduum from Eve UNI will get in, since he also has a large potential voting bloc there. But rest assured, when the voting is done, the scaled down CSM (was 7 reps + 7 alternates, now 5+5) will be goon-dominated.
Man I didnt realise it went this deep! Ill go get my tinfoil hat, he'll never get his spy rays through that and read my brain. I have some inside info too guys, now Im not saying The Mittani is an alien, but he's an alien. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |

Buzzmong
Aliastra Gallente Federation
138
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 09:51:00 -
[50] - Quote
To be honest, as much as I loathe the goons for bringing blob warfare to light, I can only commend them for how they interact with the game.
Sure you think them doing their ice interdictions is a pain in the bumcheeks, but it's a player driven event altering the shape of the economy and it's good that someone is actually stirring things up!
Without the Goons, or at least someone stirring things up, the game would go rather stale. Which is a bad thing. |

TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
67
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 10:15:00 -
[51] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote: I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
So they managed to hike the price right up, I wonder if they have a huge stock pile of the stuff that they're now making lots of money off.
That idea would be crazy |

baltec1
671
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 11:23:00 -
[52] - Quote
TheBlueMonkey wrote:
So they managed to hike the price right up, I wonder if they have a huge stock pile of the stuff that they're now making lots of money off.
Not anymore |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
228
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 11:27:00 -
[53] - Quote
Who cares?
E: It's not like I'm even undocking my other personality's Widow--so thoughtfully pre-nerfed by our friends at CCP!--let alone bridging/jump-travelling enough to matter, and that Chimaera's still a ways away, sooooo...adapt, or WoW I are kyute kitten! I are in ur mishun! Redoosin' teh lag by ninja'ing ur wrekz! (CCP: Make wrecks probable, and after 30min., tractorable.) |

Warr Akini
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 11:31:00 -
[54] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:
So they managed to hike the price right up, I wonder if they have a huge stock pile of the stuff that they're now making lots of money off.
Not anymore 
Not empty-quoting for truth. |

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
228
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 11:37:00 -
[55] - Quote
Tarsus Zateki wrote:And all you highsec sheep will do is continue to bleat as the monster picks off your weak and wounded. If Bat Country's actions are causing such hardships, then stop them. There is nothing preventing you from putting an end to their predations other than your own fear.
Much as I normally detest goons--for vastly different reasons--This. So very, very, much this.
Stop choosing to be victims, it is so. Freaking. Repulsive!
"Be the victor, or be a victim," (David Vincent) and that really is all there is to it, FFS...
You always have a choice in EVE, and in this universe choosing victim-hood will ensure victimisation:
Working as intended, nothing more to see ITT, mods, please lock. I are kyute kitten! I are in ur mishun! Redoosin' teh lag by ninja'ing ur wrekz! (CCP: Make wrecks probable, and after 30min., tractorable.) |

gfldex
328
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 12:09:00 -
[56] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:Goon leadership are sociopaths.
They can't because if they would, they would not be able to form a strong and fairly social group. If you want to understand why they do what they do have a read here.
The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1344
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 12:12:00 -
[57] - Quote
Nova Fox wrote:Work smarter not harder.
better yet dont work at all, just fasten your seat-belts and enjoy an ride. |

Oxygen Isotopes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 12:23:00 -
[58] - Quote
It should be pointed out that 'Goons' are not doing ice interdiction again. We did that already. There was one corp that was bored and so they killed a bunch of miners all over the place. Mainly close to Jita. I don't know if you've seen their killboard, but they stopped awhile ago.
Now, you just have a bunch of market people who bought up a buttload of stock in this supposed spike. But you want the surest sign that this is fake? I don't hold any Isotopes. I didn't buy or sell any in the past couple weeks.
If we were interdicting, I'm sure I would be making trades. but I'm not. But I'm guessing certain people who run evenews24 bought a LOT before they published their story. Because last time, EN24 sandbagged for a full week after we started the blocade, maybe because they wanted their own oxygen isotopes.
Anyway, keep telling yourself 'oh those damn goonies' when it is actually something completely different this time around.
BTW, if you hold topes, I would recommend selling quickly as the price bottoms out. |

Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
172
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 12:27:00 -
[59] - Quote
Toto Zinny wrote:I remember playing a game were the equivalent to the 'goons' were a guild called 'scum'. They ruined the game for many and eventually the server became a ghost town. Let's hope that doesn't happen in Eve. 
Odds are, they were probably another branch of SA. Goons have a history of hilarious hijinks that ruin peoples days.
Ever hear the story of "Goonsquad" in WoW? Held a flight master hostage for several hours and attempted to kill a GM.They demanded several thousand gold in ransom from the entire server. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |

Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
48
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 12:45:00 -
[60] - Quote
@ op
Are the Goons breaking any rules by doing what they're doing? If so petition it.
If not, then find an ingame way to deal with it.
The market is player controlled for the most part, so you can't complain when players have an effect on the market.
|

Myz Toyou
Bite me inc. Exhale.
32
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:07:00 -
[61] - Quote
Few things that havent been mentioned so far in this thread:
- If you anchore a Caldari tower you mentally challenged anyway - If you fly a Caldari cap ship you mentally challenged anyway
As everyone in EVE thinks he is the smartest gift given to earth, we should have none of the 2 things mentioned above on the server which makes the OPs fears moot. Or it makes his post just an well executed troll, well done. |

gfldex
328
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:21:00 -
[62] - Quote
Myz Toyou wrote: - If you anchore a Caldari tower you mentally challenged anyway
If you don't understand the value of Caldari Towers, the challenge is with you. Little hint, invention is _forcing_ you to bring BPCs.
The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |

The Groundskeeper
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
43
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:30:00 -
[63] - Quote
Oxygen Isotopes wrote:It should be pointed out that 'Goons' are not doing ice interdiction again. We did that already. There was one corp that was bored and so they killed a bunch of miners all over the place. Mainly close to Jita. I don't know if you've seen their killboard, but they stopped awhile ago.
Actually, the Bat Country Annual Mittani-For-CSM Participatory Democracy Jamboree is still very much alive, and should today hit its 666th dead exhumer in two weeks later today.
The question for those who rely on empire for their ice supplies has to be whether this is a feint before hitting a different ices with our thousands of alliance members (Bat Country are less than 200-strong); whether it is just one bored corp and will wear off; or whether it is deliberately lowering reserves ahead of a full-scale attack on nitrogen isotopes, as occurred with oxygen isotopes last year.
There is a lot of money to be made if you can guess the correct answer. |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
292
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:32:00 -
[64] - Quote
Azriel Geist wrote:Man, there's been a lot of Goon hatred lately. I don't like them, but jeez, I don't even know if they deserve this level of mud slinging. CSM elections eh? Nah, started way before that...
This article (while not extremely informative) - is pretty balanced (i.e. - they don't try to interpret he actions, other than letting the primaries speak for themselves) and it kinda gives a rundown of where they were at - you can extrapolate from there...
Wired Article - NNSFW
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |

Nomad I
University of Caille Gallente Federation
51
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:36:00 -
[65] - Quote
The Goons are innocent in this case. 
|

Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
77
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:52:00 -
[66] - Quote
Ajita al Tchar wrote:Lol @ tards who keep making Goon posts. Every one of these posts has a chance to be the last straw that breaks the empire. Oh wait, no, it's just another hurf blurf.
Goons start these threads with their alts, gives their mains a chance a forum warrior. |

Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
377
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:54:00 -
[67] - Quote
People still don't stock on years worth of fuel when the fuel prices are low?  Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |

Degren
The Scope Gallente Federation
36
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 13:57:00 -
[68] - Quote
"We're not here to ruin the game. We're here to ruin YOUR game."
I'm not sure why you guys keep whining at them. You know their stance, tears/words do nothing...and why should they?
If the game is taken so seriously that you can't handle disruption, it's no longer a game to you and you should step away from the keyboard.
/soapbox. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1097
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 14:03:00 -
[69] - Quote
The way I see it, you can only go around kicking people in the balls so much before you **** enough people off bad enough that they retaliate. Goons will get theirs in due time. If you are really that upset with them over the crap they pull then just be there when it happens and get yourself on some Goon killmails.
The only good Goon is a dead Goon. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
146
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 14:43:00 -
[70] - Quote
Join BoB 5.0, right now 4.0 is already fighting so they don't want to take in SPAIs.
The Groundskeeper wrote:Oxygen Isotopes wrote:It should be pointed out that 'Goons' are not doing ice interdiction again. We did that already. There was one corp that was bored and so they killed a bunch of miners all over the place. Mainly close to Jita. I don't know if you've seen their killboard, but they stopped awhile ago. Actually, the Bat Country Annual Mittani-For-CSM Participatory Democracy Jamboree is still very much alive, and should today hit its 666th dead exhumer in two weeks later today. Hm, well all the best as they try to reach for 1000 before the polls open> Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
41
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 14:44:00 -
[71] - Quote
OP, it seems you don't understand Eve very well, and rather than accept the situation and adapt/profit, you decided to come onto GD and sperge.
Let me explain something to you, and you might learn something about Eve in the process. You see, Goons are currently at war with some of the Supercap heavy alliances in game. In addition to POS's, supers (and regular caps) require the same fuels to move around. More expensive fuel can cause problems. This is a smart way for the goons to cost the price of the war up for their enemies (I understand the reason for targeting Girlantee fuels, but why crapdari? Chimera pilot with lot's of fuel reserves checking in) .
Now most null sec alliances don't have the capacity/willingness to mine their own ice in null, so most of it is imported from empire. The more an alliance has to spend on fuel to keep their caps (including the very important jump freighter) moving and POS's/Jump bridges fueled, the less money they have for things like reimbursing members ship loses, and keeping ships/mods on the market at a reasonable price. In the short term this doesn't really matter, but eventually it may cause them to think twice before deploying shps that cost a lot to replace, or the cost of moving caps might outweigh the potential gains. The average member who may have to fuel their own cap might decide that 50 mil to move some ships from a to b is to much so just flies one or two ships to a new deployment area, or they only have 1 of each ship type rather than two because the market prices have risen to offset fuel costs, so they are less effective than they would be if they had multiple shiptypes + spares.
I'm not saying that this is the case, I suspect that this is really done for tears, but ultimately doing things like is just a form of economic warfare. Either way, this is why I and many others love Eve. If you don't like it, or refuse to educate yourself about why things like this can be important (and extremely interesting), perhaps you should try one of the many theme-park MMO's where competition is non-existent, you can have no impact on the game world or those around you, loss means nothing, and everything is fair.
Adapt or die. Failure to plan for the future is no ones fault but your own. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
146
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 14:56:00 -
[72] - Quote
Hush, you're letting them know that (super)caps are the only thing preventing us from taking over the world. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2381
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 14:58:00 -
[73] - Quote
laffo you morons got scammed by riverini
i may have posted this in this thread already but it deserves repeating |

TheButcherPete
Titan Inc. Bloodbound.
74
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 15:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
Nova Fox wrote:Mors Magne wrote:Don't get mad - get even. Don't get mad - Get better.
Got mad? Go fap. :3 I am Petey :3 Petey is smexy Smexy is Pete |

Mallak Azaria
Dominus Nex Angelus
58
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 15:04:00 -
[75] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer. But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths. It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
Nowhere does your argument solidify your view on Goons having ruined the game. They've infact made it slightly more challenging & fun, which is the whole point of a of a game. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
1015
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 15:06:00 -
[76] - Quote
I bought Caldari ice about a week before this started, on a hunch that this was coming. I unloaded about half of it last night, made an easy billion isk. Probably dropping the rest tonight.
Thanks, Goons :) |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
146
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 15:06:00 -
[77] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:laffo you morons got scammed by riverini
i may have posted this in this thread already but it deserves repeating I heard he wasted 100m putting a bounty on one of us.
It was a nice donation to someone, I don't know what happened but you can imagine...
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Luh Windan
S T R A T C O M NEM3SIS.
59
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 15:46:00 -
[78] - Quote
so first off:
sandbox doesn't' mean - I can do what I want on my own without interaction with other people
and
MMO doesn't meant you can't work solo - you are still interacting with other people who provide danger and competition.
Eve is like life - if you are poor you have to work to the rules and you'll get trodden on by other more powerful people. The richer you become, and that doesn't just mean ISK but other resources like armies of people willing to do what you ask, the game changes and you have more opportunities to play the game in different ways. Those different ways will impact the "little" people but at that stage you are unlikely to care.
Your choice is if you want to remain one of the little people or you aspire to bigger things
The leadership of the goons are playing large and indeed in a way designed to wind others up - but the thing is: it doesn't make them sociopaths as some claim - no one is going to die, become homeless or go hungry - they are experimenting within the rules* to see what happens.
That's Eve (and I'm coming to see there are many layers of this game - I would not be surprised if there are metagames beyond the rough collations of alliances either). Complaining that people are playing the game is a bit like going onto a football pitch during a football match and complaining that other people want the ball....
*within the rules being a lose definition - just as with the 1% in RL, within the rules basically means what you can get away with without punished in a way you can't afford |

N'baro Dark
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 16:08:00 -
[79] - Quote
I've been trading for over 6 years. Market manipulation is what it's all about.
My admiration goes out to them if they're managing to profit big off it.
|

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
43
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 16:15:00 -
[80] - Quote
It's only one large corporation in goons doing the ganking. It's not all of goons, nor is it alliance event.
In other news,
WELCOME TO THE SANDBOX. |

Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
190
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 16:19:00 -
[81] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
*snip*
I have to disagree with you. The fact that things like this are possible is what makes EVE such a great game.
I'm sorry you can't deal with this.
Have I been affected by this type of thing? Sure I have. Vote Alekseyev Karrde for CSM7. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67574 Get War Decs, Sov, Low Sec that works.-á |

TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
67
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 16:43:00 -
[82] - Quote
Warr Akini wrote:baltec1 wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:
So they managed to hike the price right up, I wonder if they have a huge stock pile of the stuff that they're now making lots of money off.
Not anymore  Not empty-quoting for truth.
can I have some of your stuff please.
if politeness doesn't work on goons
oi **** giz ma your ****!!! |

Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
9
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 17:00:00 -
[83] - Quote
Goons now have their own TV show Goon trailer |

TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
67
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 17:18:00 -
[84] - Quote
This looks way better |

Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
53
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 17:34:00 -
[85] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote: who have well in excess of 6000 votes available within their mains and alts (2000 in goonswarm, plus the alt on those accounts, plus who knows how many other non-goon affiliated alt accounts), to split their votes to elect a lot of people to the CSM.
You do know you vore per account and not per character, right. Next to that they ofcourse find other sources of income just incase MoonGoo get's worked over.
As for voting for Test candidates. Voting for them is not that different from voting from their puppetmasters the Goons. So basicly they can be counted as Goons just aswel. Same gamestyle, Just not the history to back it up not the loudmouth to lead them.
|

Tessla Coil
Pirannha Corp
4
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 17:52:00 -
[86] - Quote
Killer Gandry wrote:Tessla Coil wrote: who have well in excess of 6000 votes available within their mains and alts (2000 in goonswarm, plus the alt on those accounts, plus who knows how many other non-goon affiliated alt accounts), to split their votes to elect a lot of people to the CSM.
You do know you vore per account and not per character, right. Next to that they ofcourse find other sources of income just incase MoonGoo get's worked over. As for voting for Test candidates. Voting for them is not that different from voting from their puppetmasters the Goons. So basicly they can be counted as Goons just aswel. Same gamestyle, Just not the history to back it up not the loudmouth to lead them.
According to EveWho, ggonswarm now numbers 7590 members. Test, their puppet's, is another 5500 members.
Those 2 groups, with all their alt accounts, can and will dominate CSM voting. |

Battle On
Jita Exiles Cowpunching Overlords With Sovereignty
5
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 17:55:00 -
[87] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer. But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths. It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
get decent PI skills and make the fuel yourself. then it wont cost you anything, just 2 hours of hauling every week or so and 10 minutes setting up the cycles a day
|

M5 Tuttle
The Shadow Plague BLACK-MARK
31
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 18:24:00 -
[88] - Quote
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!! THE MITTANI IS OBVIOUSLY A REPTILIAN ZIONIST ALIEN. HE CONTROLS ALL POLITICAL PARTIES AND IS ATTEMPTING TO SUBJUGATE THE MASSES THROUGH CONTROLLING ALL MONETARY TRANSACTION!!
RON PAUL 2012!! |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
125
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 18:39:00 -
[89] - Quote
The internet is serious business. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
42
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 18:40:00 -
[90] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:Killer Gandry wrote:Tessla Coil wrote: who have well in excess of 6000 votes available within their mains and alts (2000 in goonswarm, plus the alt on those accounts, plus who knows how many other non-goon affiliated alt accounts), to split their votes to elect a lot of people to the CSM.
You do know you vore per account and not per character, right. Next to that they ofcourse find other sources of income just incase MoonGoo get's worked over. As for voting for Test candidates. Voting for them is not that different from voting from their puppetmasters the Goons. So basicly they can be counted as Goons just aswel. Same gamestyle, Just not the history to back it up not the loudmouth to lead them. According to EveWho, ggonswarm now numbers 7590 members. Test, their puppet's, is another 5500 members. Those 2 groups, with all their alt accounts, can and will dominate CSM voting.
How dare large social groups vote for the candidate from their community that represents their interest's!!
It's fixed I tell you, fixed. You should never be able to vote for someone that is in your alliance or coalition, allowing people to do so is the equivilent of vote rigging. Those cheaters!!
For the record, although I dislike goons, you can't deny that The Mittani is an interesting person who create's drama and content for thousands of players. If he can get the support, why shouldn't he sit on the CSM? I know I am voting for the Representative from my southern alliance, why wouldn't I?
|

Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
224
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 18:48:00 -
[91] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer. But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths. It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
Using your same line of reasoning I could say the same about you.
Shame on you for stockpiling Nitrogen isotopes!! Now you can maintain your production costs at previous levels and prevent budding industrialists from enjoying the game the way they want to! If you had not done this, prices of items produces using Caldari POS would simply have risen to compensate the increased costs of production.
It's pretty clear you're a sociopath out to ruin everyone elses fun Save the Miners! |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
365
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 18:53:00 -
[92] - Quote
Uncertain if this is merely a troll. 5/10?
|

Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
285
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 19:02:00 -
[93] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote: I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game. You almost answer your own question here. More to the point, Goonwaffle's behavior is understandable in terms of having no mind at all to speak of. If you rolled their brains down the edge of a razor blade, they'd look like BBs rolling down a four-lane highway.
That being said, it's not such a leap to visualize those little boys who never learned to bathe, or use silverware...hankies...being resentful for the years and years of social rejection (if you call barfing in their presence "rejection".) They've found a digital home, having wrenched their drunken stepdad's p o r n machine from his grasp while he's out pumping gas...or the neighbor's dog...(in-between the molestations.)
Here, they get to get everyone back for not inviting them to the homecoming dance.
Holy waves of nausea, Batman!
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
339
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 19:07:00 -
[94] - Quote
You could I dunno, buy some ice harvesters, shove em on a retriever and, say, mine the ice you need for your tower yourself. Instead of buying overpriced fuel blocks I mean. Oh wait, what? Can't afford to pay Concord PI taxes to make your own fuel blocks? Cheaper to buy them? Well then you only have yourself to blame. Fuel is almost free out in nullsec... course you have to defend it, the space it's in, and soon the planets it's made on. But we call that "fun". |

Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
94
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 19:27:00 -
[95] - Quote
Rico Minali wrote:Man I didnt realise it went this deep! Ill go get my tinfoil hat, he'll never get his spy rays through that and read my brain. I have some inside info too guys, now Im not saying The Mittani is an alien, but he's an alien.
Posting to confirm that Goons are aliens and that funny CEO is best CEO. |

Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
94
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 19:30:00 -
[96] - Quote
Serene Repose wrote:Tessla Coil wrote: I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game. You almost answer your own question here. More to the point, Goonwaffle's behavior is understandable in terms of having no mind at all to speak of. If you rolled their brains down the edge of a razor blade, they'd look like BBs rolling down a four-lane highway. That being said, it's not such a leap to visualize those little boys who never learned to bathe, or use silverware...hankies...being resentful for the years and years of social rejection (if you call barfing in their presence "rejection".) They've found a digital home, having wrenched their drunken stepdad's p o r n machine from his grasp while he's out pumping gas...or the neighbor's dog...(in-between the molestations.) Here, they get to get everyone back for not inviting them to the homecoming dance. Holy waves of nausea, Batman!
Do you cry like this when you lose at Rummy, too? Gin? How about checkers?
It's amazing that people would pay to play a game with allegedly barf-inducing neckbeards who they claim to hate.
Makes you wonder whose brain looks more like the BB, huh?
|

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2160
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 19:50:00 -
[97] - Quote
Ptraci wrote:You could I dunno, buy some ice harvesters, shove em on a retriever and, say, mine the ice you need for your tower yourself. Instead of buying overpriced fuel blocks I mean.
Wait a minute, if you mine it yourself it's... free? "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Aly Vale
BiosHub
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 20:04:00 -
[98] - Quote
The goons do a ton of things, that frankly they should be banned for. Hate the game that much, let's help make sure you never play it again.....
That said, this is a legitimate tactic and there's nothing at all wrong with what they're doing. It's a strategic decision that will impact the galaxy which is exactly what I like to see in Eve. |

Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
42
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 20:16:00 -
[99] - Quote
Aly Vale wrote:The goons do a ton of things, that frankly they should be banned for.
Let me re-write this, what exactly should they be banned for? Sure, I'm positive some have broken the rules, but you could find those people in every alliance including my own. Do you think all players should be held accountable for what others do? Do you suggest that an orginization of players should be banned because you don't like how they play?
Please expand on the quoted point. |

Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1115
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 20:30:00 -
[100] - Quote
Chiggy W wrote:Aly Vale wrote:The goons do a ton of things, that frankly they should be banned for.
Let me re-write this, what exactly should they be banned for? Sure, I'm positive some have broken the rules, but you could find those people in every alliance including my own. Do you think all players should be held accountable for what others do? Do you suggest that an orginization of players should be banned because you don't like how they play? Please expand on the quoted point.
Our posting, obviously. |

Aly Vale
BiosHub
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 20:49:00 -
[101] - Quote
Chiggy W wrote:Aly Vale wrote:The goons do a ton of things, that frankly they should be banned for.
Let me re-write this, what exactly should they be banned for? Sure, I'm positive some have broken the rules, but you could find those people in every alliance including my own. Do you think all players should be held accountable for what others do? Do you suggest that an orginization of players should be banned because you don't like how they play? Please expand on the quoted point. Can flipping newbies on trial, harassing new players, anything that impacts new folks (Under a couple weeks) who are just trying to get started and figure out what they think of Eve. All they're doing is being mean for no reason whatsoever. I don't think the entire organization should be banned, however selective members perhaps. I really enjoy watching the drama they cause, but frequently they cross the line to attack the lifeblood of Eve. And then they brag about it. Not cool. |

Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1115
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 20:53:00 -
[102] - Quote
Aly Vale wrote:Chiggy W wrote:Aly Vale wrote:The goons do a ton of things, that frankly they should be banned for.
Let me re-write this, what exactly should they be banned for? Sure, I'm positive some have broken the rules, but you could find those people in every alliance including my own. Do you think all players should be held accountable for what others do? Do you suggest that an orginization of players should be banned because you don't like how they play? Please expand on the quoted point. Can flipping newbies on trial, harassing new players, anything that impacts new folks (Under a couple weeks) who are just trying to get started and figure out what they think of Eve. All they're doing is being mean for no reason whatsoever. I don't think the entire organization should be banned, however selective members perhaps. I really enjoy watching the drama they cause, but frequently they cross the line to attack the lifeblood of Eve. And then they brag about it. Not cool.
Prove it. Hulk pilots != new players. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
920
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 20:56:00 -
[103] - Quote
Aly Vale wrote:Chiggy W wrote:Aly Vale wrote:The goons do a ton of things, that frankly they should be banned for.
Let me re-write this, what exactly should they be banned for? Sure, I'm positive some have broken the rules, but you could find those people in every alliance including my own. Do you think all players should be held accountable for what others do? Do you suggest that an orginization of players should be banned because you don't like how they play? Please expand on the quoted point. Can flipping newbies on trial, harassing new players, anything that impacts new folks (Under a couple weeks) who are just trying to get started and figure out what they think of Eve. All they're doing is being mean for no reason whatsoever. I don't think the entire organization should be banned, however selective members perhaps. I really enjoy watching the drama they cause, but frequently they cross the line to attack the lifeblood of Eve. And then they brag about it. Not cool.
Goons hardly do that. You're thinking of highsec gankbears. A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

baltec1
681
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:00:00 -
[104] - Quote
Aly Vale wrote: Can flipping newbies on trial
Nope. And anyone who does this deserves everything they get from the CCP Ban Hammer Mark II.
Quote: harassing new players, anything that impacts new folks (Under a couple weeks) who are just trying to get started and figure out what they think of Eve.
Again, no. There is no point in going for people with no assets.
Quote: All they're doing is being mean for no reason whatsoever. I don't think the entire organization should be banned, however selective members perhaps. I really enjoy watching the drama they cause, but frequently they cross the line to attack the lifeblood of Eve. And then they brag about it. Not cool.
God damn thats some bitter. |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
448
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:11:00 -
[105] - Quote
Crybabies ITT. (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |

Deren Gard
Meritoc Industries Inc. SRS.
0
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:16:00 -
[106] - Quote
Eve is a pretty accurate simulation of what happens in a world free of regulation and restrictions on capitalism.
Opportunism and violence are disgusting and evil in the real world, but in a spaceship game the fun comes from conflict.
Eve is propelled by violence, both directly and indirectly. Anything that increases that violence also increases the fun.
You can keep crying if you want, though. You're just having less fun than I am.  |

Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
84
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:33:00 -
[107] - Quote
*popcorn*
PS: New goon tactics seem to involve single catalyst per mackinaw. Blackbird + Gallente ECM + sensor boosting.... Actually works until they get into single-volley-kill Tier3's or battleships provided your ecm cover is actually paying attention. You are the internet equivalent of a Mars bar filled with stupid. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2390
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:38:00 -
[108] - Quote
Zedrik Cayne wrote:*popcorn*
PS: New goon tactics seem to involve single catalyst per mackinaw. Blackbird + Gallente ECM + sensor boosting.... Actually works until they get into single-volley-kill Tier3's or battleships provided your ecm cover is actually paying attention.
last time someone tried that I dropped a brutix on the blackbird instead |

Degren
The Scope Gallente Federation
44
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:42:00 -
[109] - Quote
Woooooow...this went from killing miners who have **** to can flipping noobs that have nothing *so* fast and somehow, Goons still kept the blame.
And that is how you know you have a dynasty. |

Zedrik Cayne
Standards and Practices
84
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 21:50:00 -
[110] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:Zedrik Cayne wrote:*popcorn*
PS: New goon tactics seem to involve single catalyst per mackinaw. Blackbird + Gallente ECM + sensor boosting.... Actually works until they get into single-volley-kill Tier3's or battleships provided your ecm cover is actually paying attention. last time someone tried that I dropped a brutix on the blackbird instead
You're not gonna volley the blackbird, and if he's paying attention like he's supposed to be, you're only gonna get one volley off unless fail jams etc. You are the internet equivalent of a Mars bar filled with stupid. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
309
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 22:00:00 -
[111] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:
Wouldn't it be unfortunate if we stopped now and all of these pro market traders lost their billions? We wouldn't do that, would we?
Too late, billions were had already 
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2390
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 22:01:00 -
[112] - Quote
Zedrik Cayne wrote: You're not gonna volley the blackbird, and if he's paying attention like he's supposed to be, you're only gonna get one volley off unless fail jams etc.
all dread pirate brutixes pack as much eccm as the ship can fit, and a set of spurs
the faction police jam, you see |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2390
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 22:03:00 -
[113] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:baltec1 wrote:
Wouldn't it be unfortunate if we stopped now and all of these pro market traders lost their billions? We wouldn't do that, would we?
Too late, billions were had already 
by riverini
i still can't believe you guys got scammed by riverini of all people
that's like getting scammed out of a car by a toddler |

Chiggy W
Hard-Luck Industries
43
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 22:20:00 -
[114] - Quote
Aly Vale wrote:Chiggy W wrote:Aly Vale wrote:The goons do a ton of things, that frankly they should be banned for.
Let me re-write this, what exactly should they be banned for? Sure, I'm positive some have broken the rules, but you could find those people in every alliance including my own. Do you think all players should be held accountable for what others do? Do you suggest that an orginization of players should be banned because you don't like how they play? Please expand on the quoted point. Can flipping newbies on trial, harassing new players, anything that impacts new folks (Under a couple weeks) who are just trying to get started and figure out what they think of Eve. All they're doing is being mean for no reason whatsoever. I don't think the entire organization should be banned, however selective members perhaps. I really enjoy watching the drama they cause, but frequently they cross the line to attack the lifeblood of Eve. And then they brag about it. Not cool.
Goons and TEST are actually one of the more noob friendly alliances in Eve. They bring ton's of new players into the game, and provide them with Skillbooks, Rifters, and ISK, then give them access to one of the best damn Wiki I've ever seen for new players. So far from harrasing them, they actually bring them in and make them feel useful.
For example, the corp I am in requires at least 20 million SP, a decent combat record, and although not "elitePVP" (Thankfully) they have high standards, and you are expected to know what you are doing. Goons are the exact opposite of that, so claiming that they are anti-new player is ignorant. I was a member of TEST for a short while, and although it wasn't my cup of tea, I do have respect for the way they bring new players in and treat them with respect.
I've yet to see any evidence of why they should be banned, despite you personal opinions.
Try again
/ |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
309
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 22:20:00 -
[115] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:baltec1 wrote:
Wouldn't it be unfortunate if we stopped now and all of these pro market traders lost their billions? We wouldn't do that, would we?
Too late, billions were had already  by riverini i still can't believe you guys got scammed by riverini of all people that's like getting scammed out of a car by a toddler
I read a market graph, bought, then dumped later. Riverini or whoever does not matter. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2394
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 22:33:00 -
[116] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: I read a market graph, bought, then dumped later. Riverini or whoever does not matter.
Then you got lucky during a pump and dump and timed it right. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
366
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 23:21:00 -
[117] - Quote
The rules of EvE make "goon-types" an inevitable precipitate of the mix. They are a force of EvE nature. There's no point in crying about it. If it wasn't under the goon banner they would simply be called something else.
I miss the Privateers. They were neat. 
Maybe after they fix wardecs... 
|

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
928
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 23:34:00 -
[118] - Quote
Gogela wrote:The rules of EvE make "goon-types" an inevitable precipitate of the mix. They are a force of EvE nature. There's no point in crying about it. If it wasn't under the goon banner they would simply be called something else. I miss the Privateers. They were neat.  Maybe after they fix wardecs... 
Did you seriously just compare Goons to Highsec Gankbears? A vote for Akirei is a vote for Awesome! |

highonpop
Void.Tech BLACK-MARK
9
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 23:36:00 -
[119] - Quote
WWWOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Another BLAME THE GOONS! thread....
TROLLOLOL |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1643
|
Posted - 2012.02.23 23:36:00 -
[120] - Quote
So how mad is Riverini that we are getting credit for his trolling? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 00:07:00 -
[121] - Quote
Aly Vale wrote:Chiggy W wrote:Aly Vale wrote:The goons do a ton of things, that frankly they should be banned for.
Let me re-write this, what exactly should they be banned for? Sure, I'm positive some have broken the rules, but you could find those people in every alliance including my own. Do you think all players should be held accountable for what others do? Do you suggest that an orginization of players should be banned because you don't like how they play? Please expand on the quoted point. Can flipping newbies on trial, harassing new players, anything that impacts new folks (Under a couple weeks) who are just trying to get started and figure out what they think of Eve. All they're doing is being mean for no reason whatsoever. I don't think the entire organization should be banned, however selective members perhaps. I really enjoy watching the drama they cause, but frequently they cross the line to attack the lifeblood of Eve. And then they brag about it. Not cool.
I'm going to do what no other goons will do: Give you insights on our culture. "Goonswarm was born of grief and shaped for the infliction of misery. Once exposed to it ourselves we adopted it, refined it, and loosed it upon the rest of Eve. We were seen as untrustworthy, vicious, and irrational. Any outsiders' discussion of us would feature the same few, furious, confused, desperate allegations: griefers, cheaters, hackers... To us, each was a compliment." We recruit more newbees with promises of griefing, than CCP can recruit with terrible youtube videos. I am a product of this. The first thing in the gaming section's goonwaffe megathread is this picture: Recruitment Banner Point out actual instances of us can flipping newbies on trial. If you use instances of miners, then that is their fault for being miners. We have a very fierce newbee friendly culture. We want people to play this game and get hooked. If we do, we can blow up their expensive ships later on. If any goon griefs a newbee, they are summarily disciplined and publicly shamed via an all-all jabber broadcast. They usually have to do something embarrassing and several thousand CFC members get to laugh at them as a result.
"If you play Eve alone, you will quit. If you play eve in a group but don't PvP, you will probably still quit, but it will take a little longer. If you join your fellow Goons in Eve and PvP, there is a very real risk that you will play for years, because no other game on the market offers the possibility of visiting meaningful, measurable damage upon those you fight. The only way you could get a more immediate and satisfying capability to hurt your opponents in meaningful ways would be if they voluntarily wired electrodes to their scrotums and let you deliver repeated shocks to their testes."
I can see how being subject to the whims of the majority might be frustrating. Be smarter, Say more intelligent things, get smart players to rally behind you. Don't throw out baseless anti-goon propaganda. |

SkiD-MaRk
DEAD-ON
15
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 00:07:00 -
[122] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer. But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths. It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
I think Goons just won the game, right here.
|

Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
68
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 00:23:00 -
[123] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer. But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths. It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
how did I miss this thread
Now that's out the way I'm going to read the rest of it. |

Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
68
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 00:31:00 -
[124] - Quote
EveNews24 - Scamming highsec everyday hahaha
|

NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
24
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 01:22:00 -
[125] - Quote
Market manipulation is the best part of the trading game. It's bragging rights when you can get dbags like the OP to cry about it on the forums. Given the responses already OP has already proven he doesn't really have a clue what's going on.
If it wasn't for guys like the goons all we would have is the stupid local spammers and backstabbing alliance leaders. Somebody should blow up the OP's POS to rid him of the burden and cost.
|

Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
339
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 02:53:00 -
[126] - Quote
Andski wrote:Ptraci wrote:You could I dunno, buy some ice harvesters, shove em on a retriever and, say, mine the ice you need for your tower yourself. Instead of buying overpriced fuel blocks I mean. Wait a minute, if you mine it yourself it's... free?
Wait - you actually bill yourself for time you spend playing a computer game? And you bill yourself in a make-believe currency? OK yeah I guess mining ice is "not free". Unless you're AFK... I guess there's electricity, rent of desk space, depreciation on the computer, and the time-slice of the ISP bill to consider but how deep do you want to go? |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1647
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 02:55:00 -
[127] - Quote
Ptraci wrote:[quote=Andski][quote=Ptraci]OK yeah I guess mining ice is "not free". Unless you're AFK.
Nobody mines ice ATK.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Tukucommin
Alea Iacta Est Universal Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 03:25:00 -
[128] - Quote
I am bored so I will now shitpost.
My corp started in highsec, strait from World of Warcraft coming from the worlds largest WoW guild. 200 carebare newbies and 2 :bittervets: decided to expand themselves into EvE online. We showed up and derped around in empire for a bit then the **** hit the fan....We mined out almost every belt in scheenens in one night witch happened to be the home of a super miners corp of some kind. They did not like that we could do what we did and that we came from wow. They saw us much as Goons see most of empire...pubbie scum.
So they payed empire mercenary corps to come and crush us. We became prepetually wardeced.....
This is the part that those who are crying because big bad goons are "greefing" them need to pay attention to.
We rode out every week and hunted the hunters....Our killboard ratio went to **** and still we reshiped and bashed ourselves into these mercenaries who would crush us for their rock hungry masters. I will not say that we ever bested any of these corps but I can tell you this....More than one came to us to negotiate terms of surender that where very reasonable....every one of them where turned away and at least one of them refused to give us terms because they realized that we would not take them anyway. We still, in a dark corp hanger somewhere have the corpse of the first kill that our home defense fleets made and that is a trophy that will never leave us.
This meatgrinder only really stopped when we joined TEST Alliance and moved to Null sec. I have no doubt though that eventually we would have made ourselves known and I have no doubt that if we where still in empire today we would have well organized defense fleets ready to go for our mining ops in the face of Goons trying to kill the miners.
Don't be one of the heard.....Adapt instead of Crying....Hell pay someone else to set and protect your mining vessels....Give us null sec people more sport when we come down to empire! You might even enjoy shooting something that can shoot back, who knows. |

Razzor Death
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
70
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 03:33:00 -
[129] - Quote
Here is an official Bat Country response before you babbis kill yourselves |

Tohrazer Hextech
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 03:36:00 -
[130] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:Mathis Athins wrote:The whole point of gaming is to do things you couldn't/wouldn't do in real life. Not surprising then you get alot of gamers whole act like *INSERT PREFERRED EXPLETIVE*s. Tessla Coil wrote:[quote=Ai Shun][quote=Tessla Coil] Given that they plan on completely controlling the next CSM, I recognize that this current asshattery is child's play compared to what they will have in store once they have total control of CCP's ear.
Last I counted there is a grand total of one GSF member (The Mittani) running for CSM. I don't think there is even another CFC member running. How are Goons going to control the CSM with one member? Last I saw there were 2 goons running, though one was "not endorsed by goons'. Plus, it is quite simple, even expected, to have alt's of goon's running. There was a blog a few months ago, which I cannot find right now, that did an analysis on how many votes were needed to win a seat on the last CSM. It was something like 1300-1500 votes to get elected last time. It is a pretty simple thing for goons, who have well in excess of 6000 votes available within their mains and alts (2000 in goonswarm, plus the alt on those accounts, plus who knows how many other non-goon affiliated alt accounts), to split their votes to elect a lot of people to the CSM. Mittani may be an evil jerk, but he is far from stupid. He can easily have a strawmen/puppets running as a rep for high sec interests, another for wormhole interests, a few apparently non-goon related people running as well. All can be elected and then "Surprise, we all are goons!" The smart play of course is to keep that fact under tight wraps even after the election. That NDA is a wonderful tool to muzzle anyone from stating precisely what interests were represented by whom. Now, I do believe that Kelduum from Eve UNI will get in, since he also has a large potential voting bloc there. But rest assured, when the voting is done, the scaled down CSM (was 7 reps + 7 alternates, now 5+5) will be goon-dominated.
Hand over the tinfoil, before its too late! |

Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
95
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Posted - 2012.02.24 03:56:00 -
[131] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Ptraci wrote:[quote=Andski][quote=Ptraci]OK yeah I guess mining ice is "not free". Unless you're AFK. Nobody mines ice ATK.
I do. |

Aggressive Nutmeg
118
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Posted - 2012.02.24 04:08:00 -
[132] - Quote
Sweet Mary mother of Jesus, the baby orphans and the wee donkey. So much crap in a single thread.
Anyone who uses the word 'pubbie' to describe other players is pretty much THE definition of a loser wannabe groupie.
Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1647
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Posted - 2012.02.24 04:17:00 -
[133] - Quote
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:Anyone who uses the word 'pubbie' to describe other players is pretty much THE definition of a loser wannabe groupie.
This is exactly what a pubbie would say.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.02.24 04:29:00 -
[134] - Quote
Jita: Fuel Blocks
Amarr: 13.5K Minmatar: 14.8K Gallente: 13.9K Caldari: 16.1K
You are all idiots. |

Mors Sanctitatis
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
396
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Posted - 2012.02.24 05:31:00 -
[135] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer. But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths. It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
The more people I kill in Eve Online (and I've literally killed thousands, if not tens of thousands) the more I find that the players who are the most socially adjusted and psychologically stable are the killers, the pirates, the agressive violent individuals that thrive on player vs. player competition.
The players who are the most unreasonable, the most unintelligent and the most hateful (sending dozens of evemails spewing violent profanity and racist hate speech for example) are the 'carebears'- the builders, the industrialists, the miners. The people who claim to be benevolent and 'peaceful' and 'just want to be left alone'. These are the most dangerous, most maladjusted sociopaths in the game.
I think the reason for this is that this class of players gravitates towards online games because it's an environment where they can escape reality, escape their shortcomings in the real world and enjoy a break from having to compete with the rest of the human race for their place in the world. What is funny is that in Eve, there is no escape. There are fewer game mechanics in place to protect them from their own stupidity and incompetence. They find no respite from the pressures of their fellow man. And it makes me laugh.
So no, the Goons aren't sociopaths. They're simply better. And you don't like it.
I'm a pirate in a pirate's body. -á Intelligence shouldn't be free. -á-á-áMining, reloaded.
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1647
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Posted - 2012.02.24 05:38:00 -
[136] - Quote
Mors Sanctitatis wrote: The more people I kill in Eve Online (and I've literally killed thousands, if not tens of thousands) the more I find that the players who are the most socially adjusted and psychologically stable are the killers, the pirates, the agressive violent individuals that thrive on player vs. player competition.
The players who are the most unreasonable, the most unintelligent and the most hateful (sending dozens of evemails spewing violent profanity and racist hate speech for example) are the 'carebears'- the builders, the industrialists, the miners. The people who claim to be benevolent and 'peaceful' and 'just want to be left alone'. These are the most dangerous, most maladjusted sociopaths in the game.
This is 100% accurate. When the Gallente Ice Interdiction was going on I was getting multiple IRL death threats every day from people who suffered the consequences of violating the interdiction. It was truly disturbing. I rest easy in the knowledge that, assuming CCP enforced their EULA, those people got banned and I'm still playing.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
158
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 06:15:00 -
[137] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:This is 100% accurate. When the Gallente Ice Interdiction was going on I was getting multiple IRL death threats every day from people who suffered the consequences of violating the interdiction. It was truly disturbing. I rest easy in the knowledge that, assuming CCP enforced their EULA, those people got banned and I'm still playing. Tsk, these miners really want to use explosive lazers.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Alxea
The Army of The Ori
60
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Posted - 2012.02.24 07:28:00 -
[138] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:Ai Shun wrote:Tessla Coil wrote:I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game. Wait, so market manipulation destroys your enjoyment in the game? I'm sensing opportunity here. Not quite sure what, but when markets behave oddly there is usually a quick buck to be made somewhere. I'd think any Industrialist / Trader worth his salt would be looking for the opportunity instead of crying because somebody is playing with the markets. True, the 23K/ Caldari Fuel Block is a spike, which will likely be absorbed with 36-48 hours. But the 800 ISK/unit of Nitrogen Isotopes is more systemic, based on the Goon supported interdiction of all ice mining in about 5 Caldari regions. And like I said, I personally am fine with this, as I prepared. I am just generally angry with the goon's ability and enjoyment of destroying the game for many. Given that they plan on completely controlling the next CSM, I recognize that this current asshattery is child's play compared to what they will have in store once they have total control of CCP's ear. That is what burns me more than anything else. I have chars in high sec, I have chars in null sec, I have had chars living in wh's. All forms of playstyle in the the game are viable choices and cater to various real life personalities and time constraints of players. Unfortunately, the high sec style of play will be made extinct if goons and the other null sec alliances have their way, which is become increasing likely given their control of the CSM. Eve is hard, boo hoo, player controlled market. What do you expect no competition? Nobody is forcing you to play if you don't like it. Here's an idea, mine the materials yourself. |

Ludi Burek
Hostile Acquisitions
36
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Posted - 2012.02.24 08:09:00 -
[139] - Quote
Goons ruined my game 
I was planning on visiting outuni some day soon but they killed the hard working and honourable "real" players there already.
I am now MAD 
P.S. Is everyone in the OPs corp a moron? I keep seeing stupidity posted by people from that corp constantly. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
367
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:36:00 -
[140] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Gogela wrote:The rules of EvE make "goon-types" an inevitable precipitate of the mix. They are a force of EvE nature. There's no point in crying about it. If it wasn't under the goon banner they would simply be called something else. I miss the Privateers. They were neat.  Maybe after they fix wardecs...  Did you seriously just compare Goons to Highsec Gankbears? Yah. But specifically I'm referring to when the Privateers recruited a zillion people and wardec'd half the alliances in eve before they changed the dec cost structure. That was funny as hell. I don't think that qualifies as "high sec gank bear" since most major alliances (BoB being the biggest/most powerful at the time) were unable to resist and pretty much avoided Jita. ...and actually, I was speaking more of "forces of nature"... game mechanics that allow for a certain asymmetric play style resulting in an organization that specializes in it. At these times the tendency for players is to talk about how much they hate said organization when in fact what they hate is how those players use the mechanics of the game. It was the same when BoB looked like they would own the entire south and people were whining about them being unstoppable. People hated the Privateers because they could wardec the universe. In like kind, they are b******* about goons for whatever reason but I imagine its a similar angst.
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Serene Repose
Perkone Caldari State
289
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:49:00 -
[141] - Quote
Darth Gustav wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Tessla Coil wrote: I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game. You almost answer your own question here. More to the point, Goonwaffle's behavior is understandable in terms of having no mind at all to speak of. If you rolled their brains down the edge of a razor blade, they'd look like BBs rolling down a four-lane highway. That being said, it's not such a leap to visualize those little boys who never learned to bathe, or use silverware...hankies...being resentful for the years and years of social rejection (if you call barfing in their presence "rejection".) They've found a digital home, having wrenched their drunken stepdad's p o r n machine from his grasp while he's out pumping gas...or the neighbor's dog...(in-between the molestations.) Here, they get to get everyone back for not inviting them to the homecoming dance. Holy waves of nausea, Batman! Do you cry like this when you lose at Rummy, too? Gin? How about Checkers? It's amazing that people would pay to play a game with allegedly barf-inducing neckbeards who they claim to hate. Makes you wonder whose brain looks more like the BB, huh? Cry? Now, that's a stretch. But, you did get your neckbeard reference in - whatever that is...I don't think it'll catch on, but you can keep beating on it in forlorn hope...if you must.
I thought the game was Gin Rummy...and since I rarely lose, I have little notion how I'd cry if I did.
I don't play WITH Goonwaffle. I rag on Goonwaffle. What's amusing is the neurotics that take my little diatribes seriously. I'm pretty sure Mitt doesn't. I'm amazed you do. Um...do you have a crush on Mitt or something? Try sending flowers.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |

baltec1
695
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:05:00 -
[142] - Quote
The irony of this thread is that the price of ice did not sky rocket untill EN24 ran its little article. So, if you want to curse a name, it should be them. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2427
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 19:07:00 -
[143] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:The irony of this thread is that the price of ice did not sky rocket untill EN24 ran its little article. So, if you want to curse a name, it should be them. this was a pump&dump riverini scam |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
164
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 19:36:00 -
[144] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:baltec1 wrote:The irony of this thread is that the price of ice did not sky rocket untill EN24 ran its little article. So, if you want to curse a name, it should be them. this was a pump&dump riverini scam Pubbies scamming pubbies.
At least tears are a semi-public good, as proven by this thread.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1656
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 19:59:00 -
[145] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Pubbies scamming pubbies.
It's like our dream of a perfect Eve come true.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
61
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:35:00 -
[146] - Quote
Tessla Coil wrote:I am sure the tears of the shortsighted that did not stock up on Nitrogen Isotopes will fuel you for quite some time.
Caldari fuel blocks are currently selling for 23K in Jita. Granted, this is mostly due to market manipulation today, but nonetheless, current costs to run a large Caldari POS now stand at 664M/month using that 23K/fuel block price.
It does not concern me much, since I stocked up to establish a buffer. But I am sure there are many budding industrialists you are ruining.
Well played.
I just wish I could understand what kind of mind Goon leadership must have to derive enjoyment in destroying the enjoyment for many others in this game.
Actually, it is pretty clear. Goon leadership are sociopaths. It really does not matter that "Eve is just a game, and it is a sandbox".
Though it is quite impossible to do, it would be extremely interesting to have professional clinical psychologists study Goon leaders in and out of game, and compare their real world lifestyle with that of their Eve game style.
I personally believe that the correlation would be extremely high.
I would vouch for the exact opposite. People who have no influence or executive power over others (no regard for the title or standing) tend to be more abusive or tyrannic when in a situation in which they can get away with it.
Chances are that further research would indicate many submitted, repressed individuals in real life. "It is when I think about meaning that I lose what I meant to say." -á-á-á -Swooshie |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
164
|
Posted - 2012.02.24 20:50:00 -
[147] - Quote
Swooshie wrote:I would vouch for the exact opposite. People who have no influence or executive power over others (no regard for the title or standing) tend to be more abusive or tyrannic when in a situation in which they can get away with it.
Chances are that further research would indicate many submitted, repressed individuals in real life. Public submittal to the Mittani thread...
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
230
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Posted - 2012.02.25 06:56:00 -
[148] - Quote
I wish I could harvest as many tears as goons, all these pathetic weaklings rolling in self pity and begging for salvation. |

Caghji
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.02.25 07:41:00 -
[149] - Quote
sigh
to OP
the market adapts.........
I just checked moon t2 prices - guess what? - they have have all shifted upwards
so i pay more for my fuel - and my customers pay more for my product - net result - i get roughly same profit.
Your complaint sounds like you haven't figured out exactly how much your POS is really worth |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
418
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Posted - 2012.02.25 08:44:00 -
[150] - Quote
goons have ruined the blue cube spreadsheet transaction experience that is eve-online |

Scien Inkunen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.02.25 11:27:00 -
[151] - Quote
Don't get plaid , get laid. Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life ! |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
569
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 11:46:00 -
[152] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:The irony of this thread is that the price of ice did not sky rocket untill EN24 ran its little article. So, if you want to curse a name, it should be them.
riverini is a goon |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
569
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 11:46:00 -
[153] - Quote
deep cover goon |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
569
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 11:46:00 -
[154] - Quote
really deep cover goon |

Lttle Femke
Wyrd Sisters
1
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Posted - 2012.02.25 14:10:00 -
[155] - Quote
Oxygen Isotopes wrote:It should be pointed out that 'Goons' are not doing ice interdiction again. We did that already. There was one corp that was bored and so they killed a bunch of miners all over the place. Mainly close to Jita. I don't know if you've seen their killboard, but they stopped awhile ago.
Now, you just have a bunch of market people who bought up a buttload of stock in this supposed spike. But you want the surest sign that this is fake? I don't hold any Isotopes. I didn't buy or sell any in the past couple weeks.
If we were interdicting, I'm sure I would be making trades. but I'm not. But I'm guessing certain people who run evenews24 bought a LOT before they published their story. Because last time, EN24 sandbagged for a full week after we started the blocade, maybe because they wanted their own oxygen isotopes.
Anyway, keep telling yourself 'oh those damn goonies' when it is actually something completely different this time around.
BTW, if you hold topes, I would recommend selling quickly as the price bottoms out.
Errm you obviously haven't been visiting the ice fields around the Kamio area where Goon and Goon related players are unaware Goons stopped their interdiction. Perhaps you could have a word with Necrofin and his little playmate as they seem to think its still in operation..
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Jonathan Malcom
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
60
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Posted - 2012.02.25 14:50:00 -
[156] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:The way I see it, you can only go around kicking people in the balls so much before you **** enough people off bad enough that they retaliate. Goons will get theirs in due time. If you are really that upset with them over the crap they pull then just be there when it happens and get yourself on some Goon killmails.
The only good Goon is a dead Goon.
You post like you're 15 and get picked on a lot at school.
Seriously. |

Jimilaba
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.02.25 15:21:00 -
[157] - Quote
If I ever bump into the Shittani at fanfest I shall A) Punch him in the face B) Sodomise him with a Maelstrom I bought at the Eve store C) See A |

Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
570
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 15:29:00 -
[158] - Quote
Jimilaba wrote:If I ever bump into the Shittani at fanfest I shall A) Punch him in the face B) Sodomise him with a Maelstrom I bought at the Eve store C) See A
well this is a post |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
346
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Posted - 2012.02.25 15:32:00 -
[159] - Quote
A goon played the game in a way that hurt my feelings.
Ban all goons. |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 15:35:00 -
[160] - Quote
Jimilaba wrote:If I ever bump into the Shittani at fanfest I shall A) Punch him in the face B) Sodomise him with a Maelstrom I bought at the Eve store C) See A Quick, give me your stuff before they banhammer you for making IRL threats. I will keep it safe, I swear.  You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
170
|
Posted - 2012.02.25 16:25:00 -
[161] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: get yourself on some Goon killmails. There's tons of goon killmails already. If you can join the ~elite titanVp~ forces of raiden. you too can blap goons with your turrets. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Jonathan Malcom
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
60
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Posted - 2012.02.25 22:18:00 -
[162] - Quote
Buzzmong wrote:To be honest, as much as I loathe the goons for bringing blob warfare to light, I can only commend them for how they interact with the game.
You're right. Goonswarm was the first organization to realize that (n+1)>n. A discovery that shook the very foundations of Eve Online.
Idiot. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
173
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Posted - 2012.02.25 22:33:00 -
[163] - Quote
Jonathan Malcom wrote:You're right. Goonswarm was the first organization to realize that (n+1)>n. A discovery that shook the very foundations of Eve Online.
Idiot. Swarm of Brothers?
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

T'hena Kha'tek
Austudy The Welfare State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.26 00:46:00 -
[164] - Quote
hmm interesting thread |

clonkrieger
Adeptus Assassinorum The Dominion Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.02.26 03:24:00 -
[165] - Quote
Crazy thread ;) I like gossip me, lol. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
|
Posted - 2012.02.26 04:13:00 -
[166] - Quote
T'hena Kha'tek wrote:hmm interesting thread
Not really, no.
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Spurty
D00M. Northern Coalition.
221
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Posted - 2012.02.26 04:29:00 -
[167] - Quote
Take down all your towers and never use a cap.
Interdiction interdicted
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
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