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Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:08:00 - [1] Edited by: Wraithstorm on 24/03/2008 04:11:29 Nice writeup. However a bit.... inaccurate. FIX and allies only had a total of 7 Capitals my friend, 8 max. We had nowhere near the 12 you state in your OP. Secondly, we missed the chance to kill your first fleet of 24 in 8YC on the E02 gate, you also managed to get your approx 20 or so from MM into 8YC. Your numbers were approx 50ish with ours being the same. Furthermore we not only put a small tower into reinforced we put a large in the same system into reinforced. When you jumped into us on that gate you initially jumped in your first wave of Caps. My mistake was falling for the bait. Your 2nd and 3rd cyno spelled the end for us and we knew it, however there is no way in hell we had even Cap numbers on the field. We had gridload if there is such a thing as we were setup on the gate, and fighters on the field so it definitely wasnt onesided. On the capital note INITIALLY we outnumbered you in Dreads 4 to 1 but then you cynoed in quite a few more caps which negated that advantage quickly. Im impressed at our Allies growing ability to take it to you in your primetime. Give us just a smidge more time and its gonna get real interesting!! Damn good fight, and good showing to FDN. You guys brought it, and kept it smackfree. We continue to have good scraps down here, and I look forward to more.
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:15:00 - [2] Originally by: Lord Maldoror Originally by: Tonoppa I like to question that on groudn that u have combine fleet of 1.5:1 ratio compare to our numbers, and there was 15+ capitals i counted on scene roughly so i extremely DOUBT we outnumber u, it was other way around but that COAD PR attempt from FDN, not counting on effort u had to beg TCF to bring their 100+ man fleet including 20+ capitals to seiged and destoryed our POS in e02 but that how it goes in eve. Not true at all, there are more capitals of yours on our dread killmail than there are caps of ours on any of your capital losses. And the thread has also established that were other dreads of yours as well but they got desync'd, for example. Support numbers are harder to judge since we took so few support losses (so harder to use mails) but local showed total numbers to be virtually identical. The fight was very close and you'd killed one of our caps before we'd killed one of yours. As for TCF, they weren't even present in this battle so I'm not sure how them reinforcing a pos relates. And with so many alliances assisting you (3/4 of your fleet in fact?), surely you want more than one enemy gf to all involved. Thats because when Duck cynoed your first wave of Caps in he smartly dropped them on my Sniper fleet. They did not directly engage our Capitals else youd have saw more of your caps on our caps killmail. Again, well played, and no complaining from this side of the fence. Battlereports will almost always be biased whether on purpose or not, but I give the OP credit for making one. If you guys want to argue the numbers feel free to do so. Ill see you ingame, and on the field where it matters. GF
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:39:00 - [3] I edited my OP because I went back and counted, apologies for not making it known. We had 12 Caps you are correct, however FDN had more then that. Either way you live and you learn. Both sides have had their asses handed to em. We were due for it
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:39:00 - [4] And there were no caps of ours that didnt aggro lol. We put everything we had on Thirdeye so dont go there
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 05:15:00 - [5] As I stated before I edited the OP before you made your post because I was corrected on my TS as we were discussing this thread. Mistakes happen. I edited it and moved on. As far as your Cap count if you want to sit here and preach the outnumber card regarding Caps then go right on with it brother. I was there and I know what I saw cynoing into my fleet 3 different times with 3 different cynos. If I was obsessed with counts I would go back and count total FDN Caps but Im not. Im sure the next thing your going to do is provide your own "count" of FDN Caps on the field so be my guest. Whatever makes you sleep better at night I guess.
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 05:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Lord Maldoror Originally by: Wraithstorm As I stated before I edited the OP before you made your post because I was corrected on my TS as we were discussing this thread. Mistakes happen. I edited it and moved on. As far as your Cap count if you want to sit here and preach the outnumber card regarding Caps then go right on with it brother. I was there and I know what I saw cynoing into my fleet 3 different times with 3 different cynos. If I was obsessed with counts I would go back and count total FDN Caps but Im not. Im sure the next thing your going to do is provide your own "count" of FDN Caps on the field so be my guest. Whatever makes you sleep better at night I guess. More than one cyno does not mean a hundred capitals, it just means we used more than one cyno to drop our smaller (on the day) capfleet, in stages and with appropriate distances. Also it can have some psychological impact. Which seemingly it did. And you say it's your fleet but you also say you only know the numbers involved after talking to someone on TS about a CAOD thread. Which strikes me as odd. I don't really mind what you believe, all I'm saying is that the FiX, Veritas and FDN board all show us with 11 caps and you with 12 :) And it's quite certain you had more hardware; can't have people wriggling away from the facts. Nothing personal. And what would make me sleep better at night is dropping 50 caps - fighting outnumbered is tougher for the pulse. Its quite easy for the FC to lose track of certain aspects of his Fleet when he has Sub-Commanders helping him out on the field so he can handle everything else going on in the background, It happens. Unless I want to take the time to count your Caps in the battle its just a waste of breath to argue the point of what you had on the field. Ill leave it at that and once again toast to a good fight and a good although inaccurate battlereport
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 06:25:00 - [7] ROFL...I knew there was a reason I stayed away from this place. No worries though I got it back. I desynced and I have it in my hanger in E02.
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 06:32:00 - [8] So full of anger man. Get a Therapist or something. Its gonna be ok!
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 06:37:00 - [9] Nothings going south lol. Im having a good time on here for once so keep the replies coming.
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 06:39:00 - [10] Hmm well that would explain me desyncing then wouldnt it? The client is going smoothly for you guys so to you I typed that while I was in half armor, to me I was just arriving out of warp on the station.... Hence desync
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 06:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Terras Pelora Edited by: Terras Pelora on 24/03/2008 06:40:12 You are quite correct my friend, you are totally out of sync. I agree wholeheartedly. Argus I value your opinion... Really I do
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 06:46:00 - [12] Why? Im having fun right now, and dont want to ruin it. Im flattered that my Black Ops loss is worthy of making it onto a battlereport thread. I mean seriously if you guys need the press this bad then go for it
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 06:49:00 - [13] Edited by: Wraithstorm on 24/03/2008 06:49:57 Nothing to be confused about my good Viking. I quite possibly wouldnt have made it out of that situation however I wasnt even given the chance to attempt anything like cloak. So even if the situation was grim it doesnt change the fact that I did infact desync. Much like your guys Dread did in the aforementioned fleet battle that you guys petitioned right?
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.26 22:19:00 - [14] Bringing this thread back ontopic. I want to apologize to the few FDN pilots who posted facts on here while keeping it smackfree. Although I still feel the battlereport was slightly biased, I do acknowledge that the Capital numbers originally posted are pretty much spot on the money. I got off my ass, and did some research You played it well FDN, and although there are a few of your pilots I dont have a taste for specifically I will give you respect for a well executed jump in as a collective. That is all, flame away and see you guys on the battlefield.

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