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Alazais	Posted - 2008.03.22 18:50:00 - [1] Idle fingers, so a little battle report from Thukker land. ('Thukker? I didn't know her'). SIDES: Foundati0n & Volition Cult vs. FIX, Beyond Divnity, Veritas Immortalis & XIII Legio If you don't know who these people are, Foundati0n are those wonderful nice chaps you can send isk to, Volt are upstanding gentlemen and everyone else is, erm, downright evil. Hmmm. Or since we have Princess Aricia these days, you could summarise this as royalists vs. republicans. Or possibly just think of it as lots of over-caffeinated people making pew pew. (And no, I don't really know who XIII Legio are either, they just turn up to shoot us but we love them anyway. Except Airdefence). BUILD UP Foundati0n had a large POS coming out of reinforced in U3k (Great Wildlands) at 04:00. A combined force of Firmius Ixion (FIX), Veritas Immortalis (V3), Beyond Divnity (BYDI) and XIII Legio (Legio) formed up in E02 with around 50 people & cap fleet at their own reinforced POS (a symptom of the surprising amount of POS hitting for an NPC region lately). Seeing they outnumbered our force on the E02 gate, we moved to our POS in U3k to prepare the defence there and jumped in 10 capitals at the tower. Volition Cult sent a support fleet to join up with ours which brought us to fairly equal numbers. Instead of coming for the tower in U3k, however, the hostile forces started roaming through GW, shadowed by our support fleet, and attacked a small tower in L1s (reinforcing it in one siege cycle with 8 dreads). On their way back we expected them to jump into our support fleet in M-M (which leads home to E02) but instead they moved along to a backwater nook of the galaxy known as H-8F5Q, a dead-end, and began attacking a large POS there. At this point both sides had around 60 but FIX+allies had the gate bubbled with fighters assigned to small ships and a sniper battleship fleet sitting 100km above the gate. Using a covert we watched the 8 dreads at the tower: no siege mode. This meant that barely any stront had been burned so they were still good for a long fight. Of course, it also meant that not much damage was being done to to the tower. Cue much coffee-making and both sides prodding each other with regulation alarm-clock-op sticks to keep awake and focused.
Alazais	Posted - 2008.03.22 18:51:00 - [2] A GOOD RUCK Our Forces: 11 capitals (4 dreads, 7 carriers) + mixed support Their Forces: 12 capitals (6 dreads, 6 carriers) + mixed supprt (There were another 2 hostile dreads but I don't see them on killmails, so it's unknown if they warped to the fight, cyno'd out at the tower, or fought and just didn't make a killmail. Beyond Divnity and FIX were supplying the bulk of the caps at this point). Finally the call we had been waiting for: the dreads (or some) had entered a siege cycle. Four minutes into the cycle we'd finalised the plan and jump, JUMP, JUMP! First priority was for the support to pop the bubblers on the gate, under heavy sniper & support fire. Fast ships raced toward & past the sniper fleet to get warp-ins. During this, Duck Dogers dropped a cyno on their sniper fleet, 100km up, and our carriers cyno'd in. A second cyno was dropped on the gate for a carrier to provide support for forces as they attempted to short-warp to the bulk of the hostiles above the gate. With heavy bubbling across the grid it seemed the snipers who had warped out were having trouble warping back in at sensible ranges and generally the support battle was being won, with us having more carriers on the gate at that point than the hostiles, and thus more rep. However, it was also taking a long time and the hostile dreads were out of siege and warping in on our capitals 100km over the gate. The first capital kill went to the hostiles, who killed Thirdeye's Phoenix at 06:35. Second and third blows went to FDN, with two hostile Chimera going down at 06:36 and 06:40. During this time the result was very much up in the balance, with the hostiles having more dreads in siege and more caps on grid. However, their secondary target, Annheuser's Moros, came out of siege and was heavily spider-tanked and their next target, Drogo, was tanking very well in siege with his Naglfar. In very low armour it looked like they might get him, but the tank was still going and their dps was falling as the killmails piled up. In the time looking for their second kill, their resolve seemed to break and some dreads began cyno'ing out at the end of their cycle. We finished off their battleship support and killed three more dreadnaughts at 06:42, 06:45 and 06:46, and held the field. RESULT: Support/battleship fleet destroyed (around 30 kills for 10 losses) and capital battle won: 5 capitals killed (3 dreads, 2 carriers) for 1 capital lost, despite being outnumbered on caps and dreads. The U3K POS was re-stronted and the H-8 POS has only minor shield dent, though their attack on it was more bait to make us jump than any serious attempt to reinforce it. SMACK-O-METER: Low. Mr. Airdefence was docked somewhere, Beyond Divinity were all dead, so that left only the GF crowd ;) Another nice scrap, one of many lately. I didn't have any lag personally but a lot was reported in fleet and I since I fly multiple capitals I was struggling a lot with the recent alt-tab bug that's been going around. More hamsters are always appreciated for the GW wheels, CCP :)
crack hippy ForumPost'r'Us	Posted - 2008.03.22 19:02:00 - [3] Nice report. Grats on holding the field and having a good fight.
Dec V Virulence. Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.22 19:03:00 - [4] Nice write up, even though small engagement compared to most, it was a nice read
Mercie1 KDM Corp Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.22 19:07:00 - [5] O/ GF
Antillies Mercenaries of Andosia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.03.22 19:10:00 - [6] Was a good fight, i myself was lucky enough to survive and i also had minimal lag :) -----
Kahlil Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.03.22 19:15:00 - [7] Edited by: Kahlil on 22/03/2008 19:15:52 Was a very testing op, mainly on everyones ability to stay awake and listen to orders on team speak. Personally it was a 0230hrs wake up with the main action kicking off around 0630hrs local so props to both sides for sticking with it. Cheers to Wraithstorm for keeping the op entertaining (mainly with caffeine induced voice coms). Although some parts of this 'report' seem inaccurate and perhaps don't paint the full picture I would say its almost there . I believe one of our 'missing' dreads had gone to bed and the other had desynced (as many of us did during the 4-5 hours). Originally by: Alazais SMACK-O-METER: Low. Mr. Airdefence was docked somewhere, Beyond Divinity were all dead, so that left only the GF crowd ;) We weren't all dead - instead credit where and when credit is due - hence a 'gf' in local Kahlil - BYDI Director of Cheesy Poofs BYDI Killboard / BYDI Forums
airdefense Veni Vidi Vici. XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.03.23 00:03:00 - [8] Edited by: airdefense on 23/03/2008 00:04:01 Originally by: Alazais A GOOD RUCK Our Forces: 11 capitals (4 dreads, 7 carriers) + mixed support Their Forces: 12 capitals (6 dreads, 6 carriers) + mixed supprt (There were another 2 hostile dreads but I don't see them on killmails, so it's unknown if they warped to the fight, cyno'd out at the tower, or fought and just didn't make a killmail. Beyond Divnity and FIX were supplying the bulk of the caps at this point). Finally the call we had been waiting for: the dreads (or some) had entered a siege cycle. Four minutes into the cycle we'd finalised the plan and jump, JUMP, JUMP! First priority was for the support to pop the bubblers on the gate, under heavy sniper & support fire. Fast ships raced toward & past the sniper fleet to get warp-ins. During this, Duck Dogers dropped a cyno on their sniper fleet, 100km up, and our carriers cyno'd in. A second cyno was dropped on the gate for a carrier to provide support for forces as they attempted to short-warp to the bulk of the hostiles above the gate. With heavy bubbling across the grid it seemed the snipers who had warped out were having trouble warping back in at sensible ranges and generally the support battle was being won, with us having more carriers on the gate at that point than the hostiles, and thus more rep. However, it was also taking a long time and the hostile dreads were out of siege and warping in on our capitals 100km over the gate. The first capital kill went to the hostiles, who killed Thirdeye's Phoenix at 06:35. Second and third blows went to FDN, with two hostile Chimera going down at 06:36 and 06:40. During this time the result was very much up in the balance, with the hostiles having more dreads in siege and more caps on grid. However, their secondary target, Annheuser's Moros, came out of siege and was heavily spider-tanked and their next target, Drogo, was tanking very well in siege with his Naglfar. In very low armour it looked like they might get him, but the tank was still going and their dps was falling as the killmails piled up. In the time looking for their second kill, their resolve seemed to break and some dreads began cyno'ing out at the end of their cycle. We finished off their battleship support and killed three more dreadnaughts at 06:42, 06:45 and 06:46, and held the field. RESULT: Support/battleship fleet destroyed (around 30 kills for 10 losses) and capital battle won: 5 capitals killed (3 dreads, 2 carriers) for 1 capital lost, despite being outnumbered on caps and dreads. The U3K POS was re-stronted and the H-8 POS has only minor shield dent, though their attack on it was more bait to make us jump than any serious attempt to reinforce it. SMACK-O-METER: Low. Mr. Airdefence was docked somewhere, Beyond Divinity were all dead, so that left only the GF crowd ;) Another nice scrap, one of many lately. I didn't have any lag personally but a lot was reported in fleet and I since I fly multiple capitals I was struggling a lot with the recent alt-tab bug that's been going around. More hamsters are always appreciated for the GW wheels, CCP :) Sorry to say i was not in the engagement i was at your moms house testing out my new missile on her. All i have to report is she was a very happy camper once i left the fort. i will be looking forward to further encounters. I love making moms happy one missile at a time.
Andrachim Tar'nar The first genesis Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.03.23 00:43:00 - [9] gf
Jhonen Senraedi Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.03.23 00:54:00 - [10] Did you wait until she was in structure before firing Air...or did you hover at the door for a fast escape? I am sure your allies were so disappointed at you not being there...
Rai Tarroo Mercenaries of Andosia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.03.23 01:36:00 - [11] Sounds like fun. shame i missed it. I look forward to the next scrap. /Rai Tarroo
VileLust The humble Crew Odyssey.	Posted - 2008.03.23 01:47:00 - [12] Sounds like a very fun battle. Quality report^ thanks
Kaar Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.23 03:37:00 - [13] Originally by: Alazais During this, Duck Dogers dropped a cyno on their sniper fleet, 100km up, and our carriers cyno'd in. Oh yes. --- ---
edensson Trans Nebula Inc. The Threshold	Posted - 2008.03.23 06:09:00 - [14] :( Hey... Don't forget us!!! The Threshold were also in the battle!!!! GF
Keeves Sexy Pirate Club	Posted - 2008.03.23 06:09:00 - [15] Nice Report, made me smile. Shout out to XIII Legio.
Tonoppa Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.03.23 18:09:00 - [16] I like to question that on groudn that u have combine fleet of 1.5:1 ratio compare to our numbers, and there was 15+ capitals i counted on scene roughly so i extremely DOUBT we outnumber u, it was other way around but that COAD PR attempt from FDN, not counting on effort u had to beg TCF to bring their 100+ man fleet including 20+ capitals to seiged and destoryed our POS in e02 but that how it goes in eve.
Avernus Imperium Technologies	Posted - 2008.03.23 18:21:00 - [17] Good battle report, hope everyone involved enjoyed the fight.
Drago Musevenii The Elear FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.03.23 18:43:00 - [18] TCF attacked your pos because they wanted to...That is all.
Tonoppa Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.03.23 18:57:00 - [19] well TCF didnt just want to, FDn "begged" RAgoonTCF to help takign down our POS and TCF came in with 100+ to take down the POS only because FDN need their help basically, FDN cant handle the fight alone =) enough say
crack hippy ForumPost'r'Us	Posted - 2008.03.23 18:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Tonoppa well TCF didnt just want to, FDn "begged" RAgoonTCF to help takign down our POS and TCF came in with 100+ to take down the POS only because FDN need their help basically, FDN cant handle the fight alone =) enough say hahahaha ahahahaha ahahaha ahahahahaha ahahaha haahahahaha ahahahahah
Lord Maldoror Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.03.23 19:03:00 - [21] Originally by: Tonoppa I like to question that on groudn that u have combine fleet of 1.5:1 ratio compare to our numbers, and there was 15+ capitals i counted on scene roughly so i extremely DOUBT we outnumber u, it was other way around but that COAD PR attempt from FDN, not counting on effort u had to beg TCF to bring their 100+ man fleet including 20+ capitals to seiged and destoryed our POS in e02 but that how it goes in eve. Not true at all, there are more capitals of yours on our dread killmail than there are caps of ours on any of your capital losses. And the thread has also established that were other dreads of yours as well but they got desync'd, for example. Support numbers are harder to judge since we took so few support losses (so harder to use mails) but local showed total numbers to be virtually identical. The fight was very close and you'd killed one of our caps before we'd killed one of yours. As for TCF, they weren't even present in this battle so I'm not sure how them reinforcing a pos relates. And with so many alliances assisting you (3/4 of your fleet in fact?), surely you want more than one enemy gf to all involved.
Rick Rothsar Ghosts of Ragnarok FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:52:00 - [22] Originally by: airdefense Sorry to say i was not in the engagement i was docked up in lowsec thinking of how i was gonna lay down some epic smack on caod fixed it for ya
Zathi Shaitan Illiteracy Combatants	Posted - 2008.03.24 03:58:00 - [23] Originally by: Alazais Beyond Divnity Originally by: Alazais Firmius Nice try, but you should either learn to type, or know your enemies... before trying to make a battle report. Fail. ---- " Several unconventional alliances where made at that point " - Hey CCP, "where" != "were".. you too, Brutus? http://loseloose.com/
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:08:00 - [24] Edited by: Wraithstorm on 24/03/2008 04:11:29 Nice writeup. However a bit.... inaccurate. FIX and allies only had a total of 7 Capitals my friend, 8 max. We had nowhere near the 12 you state in your OP. Secondly, we missed the chance to kill your first fleet of 24 in 8YC on the E02 gate, you also managed to get your approx 20 or so from MM into 8YC. Your numbers were approx 50ish with ours being the same. Furthermore we not only put a small tower into reinforced we put a large in the same system into reinforced. When you jumped into us on that gate you initially jumped in your first wave of Caps. My mistake was falling for the bait. Your 2nd and 3rd cyno spelled the end for us and we knew it, however there is no way in hell we had even Cap numbers on the field. We had gridload if there is such a thing as we were setup on the gate, and fighters on the field so it definitely wasnt onesided. On the capital note INITIALLY we outnumbered you in Dreads 4 to 1 but then you cynoed in quite a few more caps which negated that advantage quickly. Im impressed at our Allies growing ability to take it to you in your primetime. Give us just a smidge more time and its gonna get real interesting!! Damn good fight, and good showing to FDN. You guys brought it, and kept it smackfree. We continue to have good scraps down here, and I look forward to more.
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Lord Maldoror Originally by: Tonoppa I like to question that on groudn that u have combine fleet of 1.5:1 ratio compare to our numbers, and there was 15+ capitals i counted on scene roughly so i extremely DOUBT we outnumber u, it was other way around but that COAD PR attempt from FDN, not counting on effort u had to beg TCF to bring their 100+ man fleet including 20+ capitals to seiged and destoryed our POS in e02 but that how it goes in eve. Not true at all, there are more capitals of yours on our dread killmail than there are caps of ours on any of your capital losses. And the thread has also established that were other dreads of yours as well but they got desync'd, for example. Support numbers are harder to judge since we took so few support losses (so harder to use mails) but local showed total numbers to be virtually identical. The fight was very close and you'd killed one of our caps before we'd killed one of yours. As for TCF, they weren't even present in this battle so I'm not sure how them reinforcing a pos relates. And with so many alliances assisting you (3/4 of your fleet in fact?), surely you want more than one enemy gf to all involved. Thats because when Duck cynoed your first wave of Caps in he smartly dropped them on my Sniper fleet. They did not directly engage our Capitals else youd have saw more of your caps on our caps killmail. Again, well played, and no complaining from this side of the fence. Battlereports will almost always be biased whether on purpose or not, but I give the OP credit for making one. If you guys want to argue the numbers feel free to do so. Ill see you ingame, and on the field where it matters. GF
Lord Maldoror Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Wraithstorm Edited by: Wraithstorm on 24/03/2008 04:11:29 Nice writeup. However a bit.... inaccurate. FIX and allies only had a total of 7 Capitals my friend, 8 max. Then how come there are 12 capitals of yours on our dread lossmail? And that doesn't include the caps of yours that didn't aggro. 1) Shaddo (Revelation) 2) zeppz0r (moros) 3) Justin Scully (phoenix) 4) PK switchreaver (Moros) 5) Khalil (Phoenix) 6) Villwrath (Moros) 7) Mercie1 (Chimera) 8) Domania (Nidhoggur) 9) Ladsmi1 (Chimera) 10) Andrachim (Archon) 11) Jade Ro (Thanatos), 12) musgrattio (Thanatos) All on Thirdeye's mail! We were outnumbered in capitals and dreads but went for it anyway. I hope you weren't the FC for this op because if you'd counted your caps and stayed you might have won, you had the numbers :)
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:39:00 - [27] I edited my OP because I went back and counted, apologies for not making it known. We had 12 Caps you are correct, however FDN had more then that. Either way you live and you learn. Both sides have had their asses handed to em. We were due for it
Wraithstorm Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:39:00 - [28] And there were no caps of ours that didnt aggro lol. We put everything we had on Thirdeye so dont go there
Dexion Slayer Perpetual Dawn	Posted - 2008.03.24 04:55:00 - [29] Edited by: Dexion Slayer on 24/03/2008 04:58:55 This topic has my seal of aproval and does not have to be locked now. ! I was already gettign worried when i checked V kb and saw a FDN dread on there, and then checked FDN kb to get some details onw hat happened and glad you guys had a great fight ;) Kinda a shame tho about the sore V guy claiming things without any proof, please produce the proof of FDN begging RSF to take down that pos..i bet V had to beg to get allt hose capitals fielded too no? If not please dont say the same about other ppl having friendly capitals take down enemies, That is all. Edit langauge removed that is ouchy to the eyes. There is no such thing as innocence , only degrees of guilt. Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
Lord Maldoror Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.03.24 05:04:00 - [30] Originally by: Wraithstorm I edited my OP because I went back and counted, apologies for not making it known. We had 12 Caps you are correct, however FDN had more then that. Either way you live and you learn. Both sides have had their asses handed to em. We were due for it Killboards show related kills from a battle with every kill that anyone gets on. Whilst there may always be a couple who don't aggro/get desync'd/arrive later/etc. (such as a Moros of yours that is referred to as having got desync'd and couldn't make it onto a mail), the FDN, -V- and FIX killboards all show us having 11 capitals in the fight, and your forces with 12 capitals. The numbers you mentioned in your original post before you edited it, and preserved in my quote, are so patently absurd that it either strains your credibility or suggests you weren't involved in the fight. Which is, after all, why you edited it After all, hard to argue with your own killmail. And of course both sides will win fights, and hopefully there'll be some good ones.

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