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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.15 17:04:00 -
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As I've seen a new rash of complaints about POS availability, I'd like to bring this topic back up for discussion. This, in my eyes, seems like the hands down simplest way to fix the slot availability problems, and it is using the player economy, which is a good thing. |
Irish Blend
Caldari
10045th Logistics Battalion
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Posted - 2009.01.15 19:48:00 -
[32]
I like it - add it as another skill under Corporate Management - either how many the corporation CEO can allow to exist, or it its 100% player skill, how many the player can have. This could be something after Anchor V, encourage more players to spend the time to be POS gunners, and can be and added role in the corporation "POS personal hanger" to restrict who can do this.
It allows for so much additional content to be added in the EVE format
- graphics - there are a lot of NPC graphics out there already that could be reused as is, or modified by the 4 different racial patterns to encourage some diversity in appearances.
- skills
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.16 09:34:00 -
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There should be no roles involved, except the starbase config role to set it up. The 'lockers', for lack of a better word, would have to be able to be rented by anyone, regardless of affiliation, thereby allowing the use of POS facilities by the public. These would be 'rented' from the POS Owners, just as offices, with recurring bills.
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.01.28 11:28:00 -
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Some added notes. When you rent a locker (or any number of lockers at the same facility, combining the capacities), it will show up as 'My Locker' or whatever in the S&I screen, allowing it to be used as input/output for manufacturing/research jobs. |
Lord TYMAN
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2009.03.19 10:29:00 -
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/signed.
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MateraTTA
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:23:00 -
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Oh boy, this would go a long way to solving our personal POS nightmares.
CCP-CSM-GODS ABOVE
This topic= Winsauce!
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Michelle Vendetta
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:35:00 -
[37]
/signed.
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Raidal
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Posted - 2009.03.19 12:22:00 -
[38]
nice idea, i like it
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Avalon Champion
Gallente Defence Evaluation Research Agency
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:18:00 -
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I like the gneral idea, though it should be deployable by the corp and a nomial rent charged.
To prevent griefing, the CEO of the corp should have the ability to 'close' the Personal hanger, especially if a member leaves, gets booted, or quits the game.
In a few posts in Eve general the Devs have said they want to revisit pos mechanics and have a look at revamping them.
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Ahro Thariori
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Posted - 2009.03.19 15:28:00 -
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once the technicalities are ironed out, bring it to the hall so we can sign on it. :)
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Animenick
Mobius Rising
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.03.19 16:21:00 -
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/signed
There is a massive hole where this array should be.
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.19 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Clansworth on 19/03/2009 18:16:40
Edited by: Clansworth on 19/03/2009 18:15:17
Well, I'm not sure what other items need to be ironed out on this.. I mean, the thread is coming up to it's 1 year anniversary... but here's a tl;dr summary to take over to the Assembly Hall if desired:
Personal Storage Array (Starbase Structure)
Capacity: 1,400,000m¦
Rental Units: 140 blocks of 10,000m¦
When rented by a Character, this array operates as a simple container. It will appear as 'My Locker' when installing a personal S&I job at the POS to be used.
When rented by a Corporation, this array operates as a Corp Hanger, using the roles of the renting corp [Hanger Access X (other)]. It will appear as the hanger name when installing a corporate S&I job at the POS to be used.
Rental agreements are initiated as follows:
- Renter approaches array, right click, and chooses 'Apply for Personal Storage' or 'Apply for Corporate Storage'.
- Window is displayed allowing a quantity of blocks to be chosen, price (initial value filled in from array defaults set by owner), and a comment block.
- Notification is sent to owner starbase managers of the new application.
- Owner views application, and either approves, or counter offers.
- Once both parties agree on terms, the first weeks rent is collected, and a recurring bill is set up in Accounts Payable/Recievable, and the array begins functioning for the renter.
If an entity has more than one block rented in the same facility, it will display as a single hanger (with tabs if corporate) of the total available capacity.
To prevent app spammage, the array can have a min standing requirement to even apply, if the owner so chooses. Also, normal POS 'usable by' mechanics will still apply, thereby limiting to corp/alliance/everyone if so desired.
Options for item reconciliation:
The concerns seem to mostly be over 'what happens to my stuff when the owner goes under'? I have a proposal for this, but others may come up with something better:
Each block is it's own self-contained secure container. So a hanger could theoretically be jettisoned, when it becomes a floating secure container, owned by the renter, and is bumped outside the bubble. This jettison can be triggered by either the owner, the renter, or by destruction of the array.
Along with this proposal, I would like an unlocking timer on secure storage added. Currently, secure storage sticks around for 30 days of non-use, where it then disappears. I propose that, instead of simply disappearing, it instead unlocks at 30 days, items losing any ownership rights, and the unlocked container sticks around for another 30 days before disappearing. Would not really be a huge increase in space junk with this change, as hangers after 30 days would most likely be emptied rather quickly. The jetisoned lockers are not reusable, items cannot be added to them (like loot cans) and once emptied, disappear.
Array destruction should also cause a percent change of item destruction, just as normal ship cargo destruction. Normal initiated jetison does not have this risk. (A nice way to cleanly evict someone, so an array could be unanchored/offlined).
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Clansworth
Blackwater USA Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.19 18:25:00 -
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Assembly Hall thread started here.
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Jettax
Gallente
The Professional's Club
The Second Genesis
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Posted - 2009.03.22 12:57:00 -
[44]
/signed
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Darkdood
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Posted - 2009.03.25 03:56:00 -
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Something along these lines is certainly needed.
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