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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.24 16:24:00 -
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What makes anyone "the coolest dude around?" Given Eve is its own social microcosm, a community, there will be personalities that step forward to be revered, as in any community or peer group.
As for specifics; they've been covered. Piracy with style, with skill, and with fairly rich roleplay context...which is particularly rare in the pirate world. The longevity and consistency of Veto is doubtless a factor.
I have my own Eve "coolest guys," and Verone's not one of 'em (I don't think he'll be offended by me saying so,) but I definitely think he's a "cool guy." I'm pretty sure he's cool enough to speak his mind or rant without resorting to an alt at the very least 
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Cybelee
Gods Unwanted
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Posted - 2008.03.24 16:31:00 -
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I knew Verone before i quit over 2 1/2 years ago and he was always helpful and a good ally. As people have said Verone has made Veto into one of the only real pirate corps left in eve.
<3 Verone ;)
Verone this is V2 just so you know. No longer have that char though.
My Eve Site: Eve Online Fan
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Karlemgne
Flying Under the Influence
Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2008.03.24 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Karlemgne on 24/03/2008 17:27:09
A few reasons:
1. He has an over inflated sense of his own worth as a human being, as a player of eve-online, and as an eve-online pirate.
2. He transmits this ego-centric world view to the rest of veto.
3. Veto, as a corp, forum *****s (nothing wrong with this). This leads to a general "isn't Verone so cool" attitude on the forums.
4. Veto is a pirate corp that makes videos. When you make videos you are more well known, simply because you are making videos of yourself and putting them on the interweb. Most pirate corps don't need or seek this type of attention.
5. Verone is friendly with CCP employees and the company generally. Thus, you will probably see this post removed in an hour or two when Verone sees it, and MSNs one of his buddies.
-Karlemgne
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.03.24 17:30:00 -
[64]
 Originally by: Karlemgne
Edited by: Karlemgne on 24/03/2008 17:27:09
A few reasons:
1. He has an over inflated sense of his own worth as a human being, as a player of eve-online, and as an eve-online pirate.
2. He transmits this ego-centric world view to the rest of veto.
3. Veto, as a corp, forum *****s (nothing wrong with this). This leads to a general "isn't Verone so cool" attitude on the forums.
4. Veto is a pirate corp that makes videos. When you make videos you are more well known, simply because you are making videos of yourself and putting them on the interweb. Most pirate corps don't need or seek this type of attention.
5. Verone is friendly with CCP employees and the company generally. Thus, you will probably see this post removed in an hour or two when Verone sees it, and MSNs one of his buddies.
-Karlemgne
Or maybe just because hes a honest and sympathetic person? 
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Daelin Blackleaf
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.24 17:34:00 -
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Verone is E-famous for making sure the community and CCP remember that real piracy is more than just function keys on a lo-sec gate.
He also does it without sounding like a whiny little ***** unlike many so-called pirates with a presence on the forums. 
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2008.03.24 17:37:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Karlemgne
Edited by: Karlemgne on 24/03/2008 17:27:09
A few reasons:
1. He has an over inflated sense of his own worth as a human being, as a player of eve-online, and as an eve-online pirate.
2. He transmits this ego-centric world view to the rest of veto.
3. Veto, as a corp, forum *****s (nothing wrong with this). This leads to a general "isn't Verone so cool" attitude on the forums.
So much bitterness.
I'd shoot Verone any day of the week for what he is, that's just how it is but he has never come across as an ass from what I've read, which can't be said for much of the rest of the supposed pirate population.
You not endorsing his campaign is in fact an endorsement in itself.
4. Veto is a pirate corp that makes videos. When you make videos you are more well known, simply because you are making videos of yourself and putting them on the interweb. Most pirate corps don't need or seek this type of attention.
5. Verone is friendly with CCP employees and the company generally. Thus, you will probably see this post removed in an hour or two when Verone sees it, and MSNs one of his buddies.
-Karlemgne
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Bistot Kid
The First Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2008.03.24 17:39:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Karlemgne
Edited by: Karlemgne on 24/03/2008 17:27:09
A few reasons:
1. He has an over inflated sense of his own worth as a human being, as a player of eve-online, and as an eve-online pirate.
2. He transmits this ego-centric world view to the rest of veto.
3. Veto, as a corp, forum *****s (nothing wrong with this). This leads to a general "isn't Verone so cool" attitude on the forums.
4. Veto is a pirate corp that makes videos. When you make videos you are more well known, simply because you are making videos of yourself and putting them on the interweb. Most pirate corps don't need or seek this type of attention.
5. Verone is friendly with CCP employees and the company generally. Thus, you will probably see this post removed in an hour or two when Verone sees it, and MSNs one of his buddies.
-Karlemgne
Blimey, he's always came across to me as a pretty good fellow. Far moreso than most of the backwards kindergarten dropouts who generally inhabit these boards.
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Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.24 17:52:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Karlemgne
Edited by: Karlemgne on 24/03/2008 17:27:09
A few reasons:
1. He has an over inflated sense of his own worth as a human being, as a player of eve-online, and as an eve-online pirate.
2. He transmits this ego-centric world view to the rest of veto.
3. Veto, as a corp, forum *****s (nothing wrong with this). This leads to a general "isn't Verone so cool" attitude on the forums.
4. Veto is a pirate corp that makes videos. When you make videos you are more well known, simply because you are making videos of yourself and putting them on the interweb. Most pirate corps don't need or seek this type of attention.
5. Verone is friendly with CCP employees and the company generally. Thus, you will probably see this post removed in an hour or two when Verone sees it, and MSNs one of his buddies.
-Karlemgne
Still fightin' the good fight I see Karl...
Send my love to Dimitry 
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
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Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.24 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cybelee
I knew Verone before i quit over 2 1/2 years ago and he was always helpful and a good ally. As people have said Verone has made Veto into one of the only real pirate corps left in eve.
<3 Verone ;)
Verone this is V2 just so you know. No longer have that char though.
Nice to see you again mate... it's been too long.
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.24 17:57:00 -
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Never met him or talked to him personally that I can recall. We have had a few random fights with them though. I have seen his posts on here and have heard many stories about VETO as well as Verone.
In all those instances I have heard nothing but good stuff about them. Such a reputation is hard to earn and very easy to lose so it speaks volumes about Verone and his corp.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.24 18:04:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Karlemgne
A few reasons:
1. He has an over inflated sense of his own worth as a human being, as a player of eve-online, and as an eve-online pirate.
2. He transmits this ego-centric world view to the rest of veto.
3. Veto, as a corp, forum *****s (nothing wrong with this). This leads to a general "isn't Verone so cool" attitude on the forums.
4. Veto is a pirate corp that makes videos. When you make videos you are more well known, simply because you are making videos of yourself and putting them on the interweb. Most pirate corps don't need or seek this type of attention.
5. Verone is friendly with CCP employees and the company generally. Thus, you will probably see this post removed in an hour or two when Verone sees it, and MSNs one of his buddies.
-Karlemgne
1. This must be your first time using the EVE Online forums. Welcome!
2. He's the first to ever do that to a corp. Really.
3. Since you have no problems with the cause, it only stands to reason you're equally apathetic towards the effect.
4. Some people create things for the sake of creating something.
5. If it DID get removed it'd be because it's basically singling out a single person and attempting to flame them. There's probably a rule somewhere about that. Anyway, it's not worth mentioning since it wouldn't change your opinion if it did happen.
Personally, I've never seen/known Verone to be over-inflated in any definable way. He's usually pretty sensible overall, doesn't succumb to trolling or flaming on the forums, etc. Maybe that's why he's so well known? He stands out in a crowd of trolls and flamers because he's NOT doing that?
Just a thought, based on my own observations/experiences.
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Animercia
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.24 18:20:00 -
[72]
There are plenty of pirates out there with more "style" than verone, and plenty of pirates that deserve way more credit than verone. People who actually did stuff in game, and not just forum *****d. |
Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:04:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Animercia
There are plenty of pirates out there with more "style" than verone, and plenty of pirates that deserve way more credit than verone. People who actually did stuff in game, and not just forum *****d.
If those folks want credit for their awesomeness, they should step up and claim it. Verone talks about Veto, Veto's members talk about Veto...and Veto's victims talk about Veto - most notably that Veto honors their ransoms (one of the first pirate organizations to fire up a campaign very specifically about that aspect of piracy.)
I guess Verone's "crime" here is to fully enjoy all aspects of Eve (public relations, building an organization of reputation, etc) rather than focusing on "push buttan(s), laugh at n00b." If other pirate organizations wish to become infamous, let 'em step up their own public relations.
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Cybelee
Gods Unwanted
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:09:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Cybelee
I knew Verone before i quit over 2 1/2 years ago and he was always helpful and a good ally. As people have said Verone has made Veto into one of the only real pirate corps left in eve.
<3 Verone ;)
Verone this is V2 just so you know. No longer have that char though.
Nice to see you again mate... it's been too long.
Yeh it has been, good to see you and the corp are still fighting the good fight ;)
My Eve Site: Eve Online Fan
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Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:15:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Garreck
I guess Verone's "crime" here is to fully enjoy all aspects of Eve (public relations, building an organization of reputation, etc) rather than focusing on "push buttan(s), laugh at n00b."
I think you're probably one of about five people in the whole of Eve who actually understand exactly why I play.
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
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Yosarian Manth
Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:16:00 -
[76]
1. Take a sexually frustrated community of nerds.
2. Have a relative EVE celebrity take his pants of on EVE-TV.
3. EVE nerds get slightly aroused and hate themselves because of it.
4. EVE nerds project their frustrations on forums.
My 2 pence  |
Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:19:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Yosarian Manth
1. Take a sexually frustrated community of nerds.
2. Have a relative EVE celebrity take his pants of on EVE-TV.
3. EVE nerds get slightly aroused and hate themselves because of it.
4. EVE nerds project their frustrations on forums.
My 2 pence
lollercoaster
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
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Shafty
Brotherhood of the Phoenix
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:24:00 -
[78]
Gotta say I have much respect for Verone, does what he says and says what he does, those amongst us who aren`t bitter/jealous enjoy fighting with/reading about/running away from charachters like him, makes Eve a nicer place.
Lo Verone btw
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Alex Raptos
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:26:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Yosarian Manth
1. Take a sexually frustrated community of nerds.
2. Have a relative EVE celebrity take his pants of on EVE-TV.
3. EVE nerds get slightly aroused and hate themselves because of it.
4. EVE nerds project their frustrations on forums.
My 2 pence
>.> <.< >.> <.<
Prove It.
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isdisco3
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.24 19:40:00 -
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Verone,
I would like to thank you for projecting your ego to the whole of Veto corp. I can only wish that I was intelligent enough to discover that all you do is force yourself upon me, and others like me, none of which is capable of analytical thought to discover your evil machinations. A fine herd of obedient forum-lemmings you have here sir, and I, being incapable of rational thought, am proud to be one!
I greatly enjoy our mandatory corp forum ops. I look forward to next Tuesday's, which according to our forums is entitled "CCP REMOVE SUICIDE GANKING!!11oneeleven." The buttons on my keyboard are cleaned and shiny and ready to type in what will surely become a Veto threadnought.
Finally I'd like to congratulate you on your many kills on the Veto killboard, all of which were surely attained as you spun ships in station and thought up new and creative ways of advertising your awesomeness on the forums.
I look forward to all the threads we surely shall share in the months to come. Gentlemen, TO THE FORUMS!
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Nuyan Zahedi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:13:00 -
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I think Verone is a cool guy too, it's just his hair that sets me off. I'd never vote for someone with hair like that!
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My blog
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angient
Death of Virtue
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:58:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Karlemgne
Edited by: Karlemgne on 24/03/2008 17:27:09
A few reasons:
1. He has an over inflated sense of his own worth as a human being, as a player of eve-online, and as an eve-online pirate.
2. He transmits this ego-centric world view to the rest of veto.
3. Veto, as a corp, forum *****s (nothing wrong with this). This leads to a general "isn't Verone so cool" attitude on the forums.
4. Veto is a pirate corp that makes videos. When you make videos you are more well known, simply because you are making videos of yourself and putting them on the interweb. Most pirate corps don't need or seek this type of attention.
5. Verone is friendly with CCP employees and the company generally. Thus, you will probably see this post removed in an hour or two when Verone sees it, and MSNs one of his buddies.
-Karlemgne
QFT, i hear verone farts rainbows!
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SiJira
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.24 20:59:00 -
[83]
verone killed a dev and got away with it
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Mostafar
Doom Generation
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:07:00 -
[84]
To say that he flys with honour is bull. There are plenty of pirates out there who honour ransoms and let people go, fight fairly and are all around good sports when it comes to this game. I play this game and enjoy doing so. when pirating if someone pays the ransom i let them go and don't bother them again. If you do something stupid and get yourself killed well there isn't anything I can do about that.
It seems like a lot of you people are just going on the assumptions that Verone is a god among men and just ****s amazing where ever he goes. i bet half of you have never even seen or come across him in game and are just saying what everyone else is say to fit in.
I am not bashing the fact that he isn't honorable but he's not the only one. plenty of corps and pirates through out eve will honour ransoms and payments and such. its the only way to really make money as pirate.
pull your heads out of your asses and find a new messiah
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SiJira
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mostafar
It seems like a lot of you people are just going on the assumptions that Verone is a god among men
pull your heads out of your asses and find a new messiah
you sound trifled
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:13:00 -
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As others have said, he's honorable.
But what I find far more compelling is that he actually cares about all of Eve, not just pirating. When something new is introduced, or a change is made, he doesn't just say, "How will this benefit me?" or "How can exploit this (not in the illegal sense) to my greatest benefit?"
Instead he says, "How will this affect the whole game? Will it unbalance things for one side? What will be the repercussions of introducing this?"
I've seen him here arguing for both parties, PvPers AND Carebears, because he truly wants everyone to enjoy Eve. If something is broken he'll point it out to CCP and the players, even if fixing it will make things more difficult for pirates.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:17:00 -
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To someone above, Ginger was despised long before cap ships came out. He made his "name" for himself by sniping noob ships and indies outside of sentry range with stabs fitted. Not that that's evil, per se, but he actually BRAGGED about it here, stating how good of a PvPer he was. Sure, it got him a lot of ship kills, but didn't demonstrate much skill. This was proven multiple times when single people in smaller, weaker ships destroyed his.
So carebears hated him for killing them without any chance of fighting back - he'd just warp off if there was any semblance of a threat. And PvPers hated him for making the rest of them look bad and causing people to associate his behavior with all PvPers.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.03.24 21:59:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Karlemgne
Edited by: Karlemgne on 24/03/2008 17:27:09
A few reasons:
1. He has an over inflated sense of his own worth as a human being, as a player of eve-online, and as an eve-online pirate.
2. He transmits this ego-centric world view to the rest of veto.
3. Veto, as a corp, forum *****s (nothing wrong with this). This leads to a general "isn't Verone so cool" attitude on the forums.
4. Veto is a pirate corp that makes videos. When you make videos you are more well known, simply because you are making videos of yourself and putting them on the interweb. Most pirate corps don't need or seek this type of attention.
5. Verone is friendly with CCP employees and the company generally. Thus, you will probably see this post removed in an hour or two when Verone sees it, and MSNs one of his buddies.
-Karlemgne
Majority of this is true, except for that this will be removed in a hour or two as verones alt obviously created this thread as usual to get more attention.
1.Snig= a fair amount of bob pirate alts
(snig broke off into veto)(bringing extra players see #2)
2.Bob pirate alts= couple devs and gms here and there
3.creators of a game want there corp to be famous= AK (GM's-Dev's)
4.some people gain fame by there ingame actions.
5.Others like Veto advertise (forum war) for it. Reading it over and over on the forums surly makes it true?
6.Eventually actual good players want to join a (Corp known for being awsome)
7.Slowly making the forum wared reputation true.
8.In addition with contacts from ccp who moved to veto from snig able to do things such as (pirates walk through) in EVE magazine.
Combined together the PR from veto alts posting (why is veto so awsome threads). And connections with CCP. And being in eve magazine you gain rep by claiming to be rather then actually being. However the rep from the pr makes real good players want to join for fame and slowly making it true.
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Kumq uat
The Hello Kitty Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.24 22:08:00 -
[89]
Verone's tears cure cancer. Luckily he is almost as emo as Hussman and likes to have a good cry.
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.24 22:24:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Yosarian Manth
1. Take a sexually frustrated community of nerds.
2. Have a relative EVE celebrity take his pants of on EVE-TV.
3. EVE nerds get slightly aroused and hate themselves because of it.
4. EVE nerds project their frustrations on forums.
My 2 pence
This is the only redeeming post of an otherwise /facepalm thread.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
edit: Wow, that was unpleasant, I felt pity for someone. Won't happen again.
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