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Hallowed ground
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:26:00 -
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It needs an extra mid to fit scram/web and more grid to fit all HAM with crap skills. Give it also 3 more lows so it can nano and dicate HAM range. then give a range and rof bonus on kinetic missles. Then up its base speed by 50 percent. increase its drone bay also so it can field a flight of warriors II or a flight of ECM. apply sarcasm filter and disregard this post.
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d3vo
Airborne Assassins Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hallowed ground It needs an extra mid to fit scram/web and more grid to fit all HAM with crap skills. Give it also 3 more lows so it can nano and dicate HAM range. then give a range and rof bonus on kinetic missles. Then up its base speed by 50 percent. increase its drone bay also so it can field a flight of warriors II or a flight of ECM. apply sarcasm filter and disregard this post.
LOL i was about to say...before that last sentence...phew you are crazy 8/7/7, that drake would be unstoppable
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:35:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 26/03/2008 01:35:56
Nonono, you read it wrong... It's 8th missile launcher slot AND -5% RoF instead of 5% resists AND let's say 250 MW extra to the powergrid. On top of 2 extra mids and one extra low, of course. Oh, and a 550 m^3 cargohold. I mean, come on, missile-boat! It's supposed to have more cargo than gunboats !
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 26/03/2008 01:37:08
Nonono, you read it wrong... It's 8th missile launcher slot AND -5% RoF instead of 5% resists AND let's say 250 MW extra to the powergrid. Oh, and a 550 m^3 cargohold. I mean, come on, missile-boat! It's supposed to have more cargo than gunboats ! On top of one extra low slot, of course. Maybe just one extra mid, two would be overkill. You know, unlike everything else, I just said, goes without saying...
Honestly, 8th turret + ROF would only yield a 30% overall damage increase... (37% for unbonused damage types).
I'd say lets do it. :-P
-Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance. |
d3vo
Airborne Assassins Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:42:00 -
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be realistic stop trolling... would be nice to see the noticably weakest tier2 bc get a little boost...
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: d3vo be realistic stop trolling... would be nice to see the noticably weakest tier2 bc get a little boost...
IMO, the Drake is inarguably the best T1 BC... (and yes, I fly it)
-Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance. |
d3vo
Airborne Assassins Order of the Black Cross
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:52:00 -
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yet arguably the worst harbinger can easily out dps the drake including 5xhammerheads II mymidon...6 blasters and drone set, tank ship hurricane has a dps and rof bonus, nano cane can kill a drake
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 26/03/2008 01:59:03
Originally by: d3vo yet arguably the worst harbinger can easily out dps the drake including 5xhammerheads II mymidon...6 blasters and drone set, tank ship hurricane has a dps and rof bonus, nano cane can kill a drake
The Harbinger will die to the Drake if for no other reason than the Drake having a better tank. The Harby is notoriously hard to fit, and pretty much has to be plated.
The Myrmidon got its teeth kicked in and only has a single damage bonus to medium drones. In all fairness, its like fighting a slightly bigger Vexor. Barring its use on gates to tank, I doubt I'd use the Myrm for anything these days. Wait, the Drake is better on gates too...
The Hurricane is something of a glass cannon. It has a truly pathetic tank, and even if you just fit your Drake for absolute gank, you'll find yourself going through 1.5-2 Hurricanes before they start to break your tank.
Honestly, that's supposing that they *CAN* break your tank.
-Liang
Ed: And a Nanocane will *NEVER* *EVER* kill any sort of Drake pilot that actually shoots at him. He can't speed tank the missiles effectively, and can't deal damage while MWD'ing anyway.
Thus, shoot at him. If he slows down to shoot you, he dies. If he doesn't slow down, he dies due to ineffective speed tank and a lack of a regular tank.
Nanocane is overrated, and this is one of those situations that you just don't get yourself into in one. -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance. |
Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.26 02:01:00 -
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For the record, the Harbinger is BC most able to take down a Drake (and IMO is quite likely the second best BC).
-Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance. |
F90OEX
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.26 02:24:00 -
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Reading this is like watching paint dry .. shield recharge time is not going to help the PVP Drake cause. IE Mwd, web and point + Tank any better.
Faction Nano Pvp Drake is where its at :) Proven in battle, Works like a champ..
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Hallowed ground
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 25/03/2008 00:48:01 I PVP in Drakes, Falcons, Rooks, Scorps, Ravens, and Caracals (roughly in order of usage).
-Liang
Ed: Yes, I am successful, even solo (provided the ship *CAN* solo [falcon]). -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance
LOL he says it's his favorite caldari pvp ship and then whines about it needing a boost. Also states that he is successful.
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.26 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hallowed ground Edited by: Liang Nuren on 25/03/2008 00:48:01 I PVP in Drakes, Falcons, Rooks, Scorps, Ravens, and Caracals (roughly in order of usage).
-Liang
Ed: Yes, I am successful, even solo (provided the ship *CAN* solo [falcon]). -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance
LOL he says it's his favorite caldari pvp ship and then whines about it needing a boost. Also states that he is successful.
The doctor prescribed "Sarcasm Detection" pills for you to take tonight. Take 2 and read the entire thread tomorrow.
-Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance. |
Darth Vaders
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 02:59:00 -
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It is ridiculus to ask a boost for the Drake. Let's hope CCP spare us and doesn't nerf it any further.
I mean the ship rocks. Its almost as good as a Nighthawk and is better than the Amarr command ships!! And i mean i am mainly a miner. With low skills on Missiles (only heavies tech 2) all the rest at 4 . Same with shields engineering all at lvl 4 apart engineering at 5. I invested most of my skillpoints at Manufacturing 5 Refinery 5 Refinery Efficiency 5 and Hulk lvl 4. You get the idea.
Well from time to time i run lvl 4 missions with this Drake. It has a bit hard fiting so i wear a hardwiring to raise the PG. But the ship is mean. I can do crazy things with it. I can tank World's collide lvl 4 with some attention of course. But i can do it whereareas my alt that is minmatar with BS lvl 4 and over 4M sp in gunnery can;t. When i have to do a high aggro lvl 4 mission i always put this character first to get some aggro . Then i get in with my Minmatar character and clear the area faster.
The thing is that with this character i can clear the mission alone. It will just take a bit longer. But i can't do it vice versa. So i have 2 characters a miner/manufacturer/trader that flies the Drake with good skills (for the Drake) but not much else. And a clearly combat character with around the same amount of SP and still the carebear is better!!!!
I can even do the lvl 4s easier with the Drake compaired to the Raven where i have tech 2 cruise missiles etc but still Drake is better than the Raven for lvl 4s at least for me.
I am in love with the Drake it's a superb ship and is better than the rest even for pvp. I really hope CCP have mercy on me and doesn't nerf this ship
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Darth Vaders
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 03:06:00 -
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Now i don;t fly Amarr ships at all. And i don't plan to. But i played a bit with EFT and i honestly think that despite the recent boost the amarr lack a good ship to do PvE. The worst ship Amarr got is Abaddon. I think they should give the ship at least a 50% to cap use for lasers because it is really really bad as it is. I saw the ship being used a lot in the recent PvP alliance tournament but imo is the worst BS of the game. So if there are people they should complain are still the Amarr despite the recent boost.
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Ra'ita
Mean Anglo-Danes
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Posted - 2008.03.26 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
The doctor prescribed "Sarcasm Detection" pills for you to take tonight. Take 2 and read the entire thread tomorrow.
You're a cruel, cruel man. And I love you for it. Module stacking guide |
Rawr Cristina
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.26 07:37:00 -
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Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 26/03/2008 07:37:21 I'm confused
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Jennifer Flate
theFragment The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:38:00 -
[107]
bump? or point proven, oh glorious liang?
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Cpt Cosmic
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:54:00 -
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poor guys are you all I mean you all dont notice the sweetness of irony even it is put on a silver plate for ya
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RedeyeAce
Demogorgon's Army Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
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Posted - 2008.03.27 23:14:00 -
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Liang... OMG look what youve gone and started.. i've been non stop laughing throughout the whole of this thread. All I can say is Superb!! I'm anticipating this continuing on for a fair few pages yet!!!
Nice to see the usual suspects in here and not at all surprised by their comments.. shame really. By the way I think youve been a bit rude by not answering the below comment.. not nice to keep a guy waiting now is it..
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 04:59:03
Quote: p-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Such a sad panda makes the Caldari population cry. :'( --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
good old tears of doom :) btw ure hot wanna have some babies?
p.s. While were at it, Perhaps we should discuss the need for the phoon to have 12 high's and 6/6 split and the fitting ability to go with it ..
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: RedeyeAce Liang... OMG look what youve gone and started.. i've been non stop laughing throughout the whole of this thread. All I can say is Superb!! I'm anticipating this continuing on for a fair few pages yet!!!
Nice to see the usual suspects in here and not at all surprised by their comments.. shame really. By the way I think youve been a bit rude by not answering the below comment.. not nice to keep a guy waiting now is it..
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 25/03/2008 04:59:03
Quote: p-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Such a sad panda makes the Caldari population cry. :'( --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
good old tears of doom :) btw ure hot wanna have some babies?
p.s. While were at it, Perhaps we should discuss the need for the phoon to have 12 high's and 6/6 split and the fitting ability to go with it ..
Heh, sure. :P
-Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance. |
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Schalac
Brotherhood of Wolves
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Posted - 2008.03.29 00:41:00 -
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I still want my 100% bonuses to velocity and flight time of heavy missiles so I can SS and shoot at anyone in the system with FoF missiles.
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Inuyasha507
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2008.03.29 03:51:00 -
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Nerf Caldari. Boost Amarr. Support Blaze Crystals. Do it.
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Beriel
Cosmic Odyssey Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.03.29 06:52:00 -
[113]
yeah, not really sure what you are talking about. granted the drake is not suited from 1v1 roaming but if you have a stationary location or a decent gang the drake has an incredible tank and is the ultimate f1-f7 and forget.
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leung bak
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Posted - 2008.03.29 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: arbalesttom The drake is absolutely fine as it is now (Proof), it doesnt need any kind of boost (i like the 5% kinetic bonus swapped to a rof bonus though).
Damn you got me again with that link.
Hmm im starting to like the song so keep it coming
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