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Aaron
Shogun Blades
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Posted - 2008.03.25 17:44:00 -
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Hi,
Some of you may have noticed there has been some activity on this item over the last week,
Ive purchased a large amount of this product in regions Sinq, Forge, Citadel, and Lonetrek, Im attempting to restore the products value back to what it once was, I have billions of ISK and feel i am able to manage this product.
Its current sell value stands at about 950k, I have noticed alot of traders attempting undercut me or live off the back of my hard work.
So I have decided to put up a buy order of approx 650k to 750k in the 4 reigons, please try and work with me on this and ill try to gauruntee you an immidiate sale for the above values, If you feel you want more and want to post your sale on the market then undercut me by 1 isk my sales will always be top if i am online, its no point undercutting me by 50k as this lowers the value of the product and we all lose out.
Take care and good trading
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cosmoray
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.25 18:04:00 -
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I would personally like to thank you for taking this on Aaron.
Although I must admit I have absolutely no interest if you succeed or fail, it is very nice intelligence and I hopefully will be able to make some quick ISK'ies either selling to you or undercutting you.
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Kwint Sommer
Lothian Quay Industries
Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 18:12:00 -
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They dropped in price for good reason, they're not terribly useful anymore. I'm not sure where you think the proper price point is but I sincerely doubt they'll ever sell anywhere near their old price.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.03.25 18:14:00 -
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You do realize WHY the Arbalest Siege fell so much in price, don't you ?
First, you won't see PvP boats sporting Arby Siege if they're expensive, they'll go with T2 or one of the lower named.
Second off, Torp spec is slightly easier to train as Cruise spec, and only the JAVELIN torps are useful in missions, so the need for Arby Siege from PvE boats has dropped like a rock.
So, PvPers won't be buying if it's expensive, PvEers won't be buying at all...
...who do you hope will buy them if they're expensive ?
Seriously. WHO ?
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Brisco Smiley
Peppermint Bay Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.03.25 18:15:00 -
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I think a lot of people are trying to get away from Arby's since they canceled 5 for 5.
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Cogwheel
New Eden Credit Bureau
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Posted - 2008.03.25 18:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Brisco Smiley
I think a lot of people are trying to get away from Arby's since they canceled 5 for 5.
Meh... Only thing worthwhile are their curly fries imo
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Shadarle
LI0NS Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.25 18:53:00 -
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This makes me want to buy up a bunch of them and start undercutting by 50k...
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Aaron
Shogun Blades
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Posted - 2008.03.25 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
You do realize WHY the Arbalest Siege fell so much in price, don't you ?
First, you won't see PvP boats sporting Arby Siege if they're expensive, they'll go with T2 or one of the lower named.
Second off, Torp spec is slightly easier to train as Cruise spec, and only the JAVELIN torps are useful in missions, so the need for Arby Siege from PvE boats has dropped like a rock.
So, PvPers won't be buying if it's expensive, PvEers won't be buying at all...
...who do you hope will buy them if they're expensive ?
Seriously. WHO ?
youve made some good points, however, ive watched this product constantly for the past 2 days, ive seen at least 70 units being sold on the market per day, Im happy to keep the price at around 1 million,
i feel there is some value in this product as the only difference tween this and its T2 variation is lees capacity.
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Kwint Sommer
Lothian Quay Industries
Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 19:36:00 -
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You do understand how T2 weapons work, right?
They have the same damage/speed stats but you get a bonus from the skill that only applies to the T2 version so with decent skills something like a T2 Siege launcher has 8% or even 10% faster RoF than an arbalest. It doesn't take much to use T2 Siege launchers and given that your only market is PVP'ers you can expect them to be fairly well skilled. Thus, arbalest Siege launchers will only sell so long as they're substantially cheaper than T2 Siege Launchers.
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cosmoray
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.25 19:39:00 -
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I bought over 50 at no more than 550K, and had some left in hangar from lvl 4 loot.
I am going to be selling most at 800-850K till your sell price goes up. You keep propping the market up.
Either way a tidy 45% profit, thanks very much!
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Myrdyr
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:14:00 -
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Looks like this guy has ~367 in jita @ ~945k and someone else put up 982 @ 600k. Cute.
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Shadarle
LI0NS Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Shadarle on 25/03/2008 20:23:01
Originally by: Myrdyr
Looks like this guy has ~367 in jita @ ~945k and someone else put up 982 @ 600k. Cute.
499,999 now
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Ulstan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ulstan on 25/03/2008 20:28:06
The problem is that this module just isn't very good for pve, and no one uses expensive mods for PvP.
Javelin torps are still useful in pve, but you can't put those in an arby launcher.
Though, your explanation is a nice one. I'd noticed hugely overpriced buy/sell orders going up and was wondering if someone had come back, to the game after a year and hadn't heard about the torp changes.
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Aaron
Shogun Blades
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:28:00 -
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oh dear, it appears the price in jita has dropped to 500k each, not sure how im gonna make profit on those 367 
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Aaron
Shogun Blades
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
I bought over 50 at no more than 550K, and had some left in hangar from lvl 4 loot.
I am going to be selling most at 800-850K till your sell price goes up. You keep propping the market up.
Either way a tidy 45% profit, thanks very much!
hmm looks like u lost ur money buddy..with the 500k sell order in place.
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Aaron
Shogun Blades
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:39:00 -
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OMG its 399,999 now. 
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Cogwheel
New Eden Credit Bureau
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
OMG its 399,999 now.
Shot yourself in the foot, did you? 
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:57:00 -
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'Malkuth' Siege launchers are going for 29k-30k in Jita atm.
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Kwint Sommer
Lothian Quay Industries
Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ulstan
and no one uses expensive mods for PvP.
My Chimera has an almost completely faction fit including a pair of DG Invulns. I guess I'm a noob.
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Shadarle
LI0NS Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:14:00 -
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I question if the OP even did this, as making a post about it is clear lunacy. I find it hard to believe he would be so foolish as to broadcast his manipulation attempt... but hey, perhaps he really did do it and just doesn't know any better.
I'd hope it was someone else manipulating and he saw it and made the post as a way to screw that person over.
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cosmoray
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
Originally by: cosmoray
I bought over 50 at no more than 550K, and had some left in hangar from lvl 4 loot.
I am going to be selling most at 800-850K till your sell price goes up. You keep propping the market up.
Either way a tidy 45% profit, thanks very much!
hmm looks like u lost ur money buddy..with the 500k sell order in place.
I sold em all before I posted earlier
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:33:00 -
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Arbalest Siege Launchers are *how* much? 
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Ambo
2nd Outcasters
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
I question if the OP even did this, as making a post about it is clear lunacy. I find it hard to believe he would be so foolish as to broadcast his manipulation attempt... but hey, perhaps he really did do it and just doesn't know any better.
I'd hope it was someone else manipulating and he saw it and made the post as a way to screw that person over.
I was just thinking exactly the same. Surely anyone who manipulates to that extent will realise what shouting about it like this would do... I'm positive there must more then meets the eye. 
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cosmoray
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:58:00 -
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If you are trying to manipulate a market, its wiser to pick an item there is a 'real' demand for!
Torp nerf, ftw!
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Aaron
Shogun Blades
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray
If you are trying to manipulate a market, its wiser to pick an item there is a 'real' demand for!
Torp nerf, ftw!
There is a considerable amount of orders, its a fact that people are still happy to pay upto 950k for one, Ive sold over 200 at this price in just a few days,
The main point of this post was to try to stop people de-valuing the product, if u can see a sell order for 950k, where is the logic in puting on a sell order for 600k???, why not just do one for 0.01 of an isk less than mine?? If im not online you will get the next sale for nearer to 950k rather than 600k.
it seems all everyone wants to do is live off the hard work I have done on this item. Im mainly refering to Jita, just stop being greedy and silly, if you work with me we can all make money.
All im asking for is to stop the silly sell orders for 600k to 800k, undercut me by 0.01 isk, I will then undercut you by 0.01 isk when i come online. This way everyone makes good money and were all happy.
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Minerva Vulcan
The Nexus Foundation
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:06:00 -
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Knowing the general EVE population, it's probably as a result of this thread that you're seeing 600k sell orders.
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Aaron
Shogun Blades
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Knowing the general EVE population, it's probably as a result of this thread that you're seeing 600k sell orders.
They were there long b4 i did this topic, 
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Minerva Vulcan
The Nexus Foundation
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Knowing the general EVE population, it's probably as a result of this thread that you're seeing 600k sell orders.
They were there long b4 i did this topic,
Then this thread probably won't do much.
Vast majority of the EVE community doesn't even know this place exists.
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Kwint Sommer
Lothian Quay Industries
Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Vast majority of the EVE community doesn't even know this place exists.
And thank god for it, most of them that do wonder in seem to either promptly launch a half-baked IPO or begin telling us how the market should work with brilliant ideas like a T2 BPO lottery.  Oh and apparently the way to earn billions is grinding L4's, which is why the economy should be based around a lottery....
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cosmoray
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.26 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron
Originally by: cosmoray
If you are trying to manipulate a market, its wiser to pick an item there is a 'real' demand for!
Torp nerf, ftw!
There is a considerable amount of orders, its a fact that people are still happy to pay upto 950k for one, Ive sold over 200 at this price in just a few days,
The main point of this post was to try to stop people de-valuing the product, if u can see a sell order for 950k, where is the logic in puting on a sell order for 600k???, why not just do one for 0.01 of an isk less than mine?? If im not online you will get the next sale for nearer to 950k rather than 600k.
it seems all everyone wants to do is live off the hard work I have done on this item. Im mainly refering to Jita, just stop being greedy and silly, if you work with me we can all make money.
All im asking for is to stop the silly sell orders for 600k to 800k, undercut me by 0.01 isk, I will then undercut you by 0.01 isk when i come online. This way everyone makes good money and were all happy.
Surely you realise the stupidity of this post.
Why should anyone place a sell order for 50 units and spend 5 days micro managing them in a 0.1 ISK game, when it is easier to buy some cheap goods and dump on the market at only 20-40% profit for less than 5 minutes worth of work?
Your post basically asked for 2 reactions:
1. Make a very quick buck off your effort
2. Undercut you so you would get annoyed and continue the rant.
There are many people here who would spend 100m trashing a market for the giggles.
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