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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:34:00 -
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Okay, this may shock some, but I hope people can take the truths I'm trying to get out, and act accordingly. This, to me, is pretty grave stuff, and deserves a response.
I figured out why Mr. Plave Okice - of Red. - has created RvB. Behind the scenes, Plave has been running a group of salvagers around two key systems û Bei, Blue headquarters, and Hatakani, Red headquarters. Now, we all thought RvB would be a blast, pew pew and all that, but little did any of us know, until now, that Plave was doing all this for our burning wrecks.
Currently, I estimate he has salvaged over 80% of all wrecks related to RvB, including third party losses like those from MF. MF... now that's another matter I'll get back to later. For now, suffice it to say that every time one of us goes down, Plave makes 80% of our salvage value. Money that goes almost directly to him and a few working with him.
Now, all this would be sort of acceptable, except he has set a former RED as Blue alliance leader, who will pretend to make mistakes as FCing, leading fleets into certain death scenarios, or into total slaughters of Red gangs. And all but Plave and Talan are completely unaware of this, and just go along with full trust. It sickens me, that they would play such a game with their own forces, people who trust them, maybe even look up to them, just to make money of our wrecks.
And that leads to the final piece in all this. I have reliable information from a contact in MF, that their war against us was contracted by a so-far un-revealed client. I guess everyone can guess who? Yes, Plave Okice, who tried to scam me into selling a rigged Megathron to him at way below cost (ôWe're both in RvB mate, I'll help you some other time!ö), has HIRED MF to war-dec RvB, and keeps them supplied with intel on our positions and fleets. Plave doesn't much care who wins, his neutral salvagers will profit anyhow, just as long as many people die. Like a vampire, sucking RvB dry to extend his own wallet-life. But I bring the light of truth to his scheme!
So, there you have it. RvB is just one big money-maker for Plave who directs his unknowing pawns into endless deaths that generate endless ISK for him. Profiting from the demise of your fellow players to such an extent... for shame... ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Raivi
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Raivi on 25/03/2008 20:42:36 Edited by: Raivi on 25/03/2008 20:41:26 First!
Honestly I find this hard to believe. I've been in Red since the beginning and I'd assume that if Plave has been doing this he'd have offered to cut me in by now.
It has been mostly the same NPC corp members salvaging wrecks around our battles wherever we go, but I think it's probably just a bunch of opportunistic n00bs.
Talan's crappy FCing a result of Talan being a crappy FC. C/D?
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Red vs. Blue! |

Talan Calonid
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:36:00 -
[3]
Poasting in an epic thread.
 Red v Blue |

Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
EVE Rehabilitation Hub Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:41:00 -
[4]
Dammit, I'd joined RvB as a way of getting some (relatively) save PvP experience that wasnt going to be in low sec, and in the last week I've lost around 800Mil's worth of kit and ships - if this is true, I'm probably going to pack it in and head back to carebear'ing.
Its a sad state of affairs when a great idea like RvB ends up being twisted in such a way, its things like this that end up really shafting this level of group interaction.
What a gimp.
Em.
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Willoughby Dashwood
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:45:00 -
[5]
I.. er.. 
*head explodes*
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passivity
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:46:00 -
[6]
oh noes - me runs for tinfoil
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Thmuses
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:47:00 -
[7]
This would explain those so called safespots of Talans. True traps they are!
In the end there will be only Red |

eritalker
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:49:00 -
[8]
I thought my ammo looked like bits from my destroyed ships.
The price of Cormorants has shot up too
tinfoilhattery
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Jennifer Morgue
YELLOW.
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:51:00 -
[9]
So? Isn't this the purpose of the games. Plave is just working on a lower level than CCP. They make us all pay monthly with real money to see our ships get wrecked. / Warlord of Yellow!
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Talonmirth
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:57:00 -
[10]
Sounds rather eveish to me.
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Vim
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:02:00 -
[11]
Atleast you know who to primary =) And ofc, bring your own neut salvager to the fights yarr!
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Gallant Nose
Thunderstruck. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:03:00 -
[12]
/me shakes fist at Plave
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weedmasta
PAK Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:05:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Emrys Ap'Morgravaine Dammit, I'd joined RvB as a way of getting some (relatively) save PvP experience...
Relatively save PvP experience? Are you sure you are playing the right game?  ___________________________________
Shuuuun, shuuuun the smacktalkers.
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Stanley Cluster
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:09:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Thmuses This would explain those so called safespots of Talans. True traps they are!
You read my mind, Thmuses. You are clever and mighty.
Violets are blue and I am red if you are blue you are so dead |

Talan Calonid
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:17:00 -
[15]
Edited by: Talan Calonid on 25/03/2008 21:24:59 Edited by: Talan Calonid on 25/03/2008 21:21:20
Originally by: Raivi Talan's crappy FCing a result of Talan being a crappy FC. C/D?
c.
Originally by: Stanley Cluster
Originally by: Thmuses This would explain those so called safespots of Talans. True traps they are!
You read my mind, Thmuses. You are clever and mighty.
Actually, they are 'Spots formerly known as safe,' fyi.
*sips rum*
Furthermore,
Red v Blue |

Darius Avalon
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:26:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Talan Calonid Edited by: Talan Calonid on 25/03/2008 21:21:20
Originally by: Raivi Talan's crappy FCing a result of Talan being a crappy FC. C/D?
c.
C, confirming Talan's confirmation.
Still, never knew you were behind such a sinister plot 
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Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
EVE Rehabilitation Hub Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:27:00 -
[17]
Edited by: Emrys Ap''Morgravaine on 25/03/2008 21:28:15
Originally by: weedmasta
Originally by: Emrys Ap'Morgravaine Dammit, I'd joined RvB as a way of getting some (relatively) save PvP experience...
Relatively save PvP experience? Are you sure you are playing the right game? 
Relative to say: Cosying up to BoB Pretending your friends with the Goons Running Lvl 5's Smack talking your way through the drone regions and proclaiming WoW to be the best game ever...
Funny though, now that I think on it, I lost that Rokh with Talan as FC - suddenly it all becomes clear.
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:29:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
Originally by: weedmasta
Originally by: Emrys Ap'Morgravaine Dammit, I'd joined RvB as a way of getting some (relatively) save PvP experience...
Relatively save PvP experience? Are you sure you are playing the right game? 
Relative to say: Cosying up to BoB Pretending your friends with the Goons Running Lvl 5's Smack talking your way through the drone regions and proclaiming WoW to be the best game ever...
Those all sound a lot safer than having Talan as FC! ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Asuka Smith
StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:32:00 -
[19]
This reminds me of the religious nuts and the technocrats in the new Deus Ex game...
And honestly I am not surprised that the same guy is in control of Red and Blue playing them against eachother for his own gains.
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:46:00 -
[20]
There is no such thing as a free lunch 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu edit: Wow, that was unpleasant, I felt pity for someone. Won't happen again.
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PraetorNZ
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:50:00 -
[21]
fail. Plave would have invited me in by now if this was true. he knows how much i like seeing things go splode no matter whose they are :p
and anyway. endless deaths are what RvB is all about
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:52:00 -
[22]
Originally by: PraetorNZ and anyway. endless deaths are what RvB is all about
And salvage, apparently!! ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Tai Paktu
Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:55:00 -
[23]
COAD -> ______
http://eve-files.com/sig/TaiPaktu/sig3.PNG |

Wgaord
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:04:00 -
[24]
Tbh I don't really care. So many people fly T1 ships anyways that he can't be making much out of it and he's allowing ppl to have a good time and enjoy the game whilst doing so. To me it seems as if everybody wins (I haven't really been in any fleets or big gangs though so I don't know what these fights end up like).
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Talan Calonid
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:17:00 -
[25]
/me hands out the tinfoil
 Red v Blue |

Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:22:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Talan Calonid /me hands out the tinfoil

There's not enough tinfoil to cover up the horrible things you and Plave have done! ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Tchell Dahhn
Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:24:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Jack Brazen Behind the scenes, Plave has been running a group of salvagers around two key systems û Bei, Blue headquarters, and Hatakani, Red headquarters. Now, we all thought RvB would be a blast, pew pew and all that, but little did any of us know, until now, that Plave was doing all this for our burning wrecks.
I hereby offer my services, for a percentage of the salvage.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:28:00 -
[28]
You would think that if the title of the thread says "CAOD STYLE" it would actually be posted in CAOD. Also: Who cares if hes making money off these wars? As long as your all having fun pew pewin it shouldnt matter if hes making a quick buck. All problems can be solved if noone dies anymore :3
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Avaricia
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:28:00 -
[29]
this thread is absurd.
oh noes people that join for cheap and fun pvp are DYING?! the humanity! WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!
seriously though, aside from the fact nobody gives a ****, alliances cost isk to maintain.
reign of terror griefmatic |

Joe Shooter
Thunderstruck. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:52:00 -
[30]
I'm truly speechless. 
As as of such you wont see a word from me in this thread.
Not once, nope. Not a single one. ___________
ThUnDeRsTrUcK |

Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:58:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Avaricia this thread is absurd.
No YOU are absurd, if you think no one cares. Do you have any idea how much we are talking here? RvB internal fights alone run in the 25 bil. range, just how many wrecks do you think that is? Enough to make a person rich, that's for sure, off the hard work and bloodshed of those that TRUST him.
Don't you people have a sense of morality?!? Ignorance ISN'T bliss!!
*cough* (I'm surprised that even the obvious comparison between RvB and CAOD isn't enough for some people)
If anyone wants proof of this, check the amount of rigs for sale in the regions around RvB HQ systems, and compare them to everywhere else, and even against our killboards. You may notice a significant rise in tech II rigs for sale in some areas following a rise in tech II ships engaged in said areas. Interesting, no? I'd show you these numbers myself, but I had a computer error just as I tried to save the spreadsheet.
How's THAT for proof? ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Ling Mai
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:04:00 -
[32]
Ok, so you have red vs. blue. You confine them to basically 2 systems, so the vast majority of fighting is done on 2 gates. You tell the whole of Eve where the fights are going to be. And your shocked that someone had the foresight to exploit it? You didnt notice all the destroyers and haulers hanging around while you guys were fighting? I mean comon, really...you didnt realize it was gonna happen? Wow.
Btw, I am one of the salvagers in the OP, and i am not in Red or Blue, but thanks for the continued loots! Keep killing each other though, you've almost bought me another carrier already!
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Joe Shooter
Thunderstruck. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:09:00 -
[33]

Fine, I've been forced into saying something then...
1) The first point is obviously the actual truth behind this, I mean you don't seem like a stable or reliable source of information, obviously something has made you irate and you're taking it out the poor people of C&P, and this is assuming of course you aren't just epic troll, in which case I bow down, I've been trolled.
2) Okay, let's assume you aren't a troll and you have reliable information here. I still fail to see your point, salvage your own wrecks? Salvage other peoples wrecks? If you're too lazy or stupid to not capitalise on an idea that someone else has now found then that's your loss, don't come and whine about it.
3) Okay maybe you can't salvage your own wrecks etc. Being held to gunpoint by plave? Is he being some sort of horrible dictator. What does this matter, he's made an idea that gives you relatively easy to get into pewpew so don't complain about that, and if you're FC is indeed leading you into suicide then just don't listen to him, only a fool would allow themselves to die in that way...
4) And tbh, final point. If you don't like it then just get out and go elsewhere... No one is making you stay and this 'scandal' doesn't need outing like some sort of ******** press release. Adapt or die.
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ThUnDeRsTrUcK |

Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:11:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Joe Shooter and this is assuming of course you aren't just epic troll, in which case I bow down, I've been trolled.
Start kissing that floor :P ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Ensa Rai
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:12:00 -
[35]
Wait.... wait... WAIT!!!!! You're telling me that someone who is responsible for perpetual war is getting insanely rich off of said war??!?!?! This man must be a strange kind of mutant genius person and should be put in a cage and made to do really hard sudoku puzzles for the government.
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Joe Shooter
Thunderstruck. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:16:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Jack Brazen
Originally by: Joe Shooter and this is assuming of course you aren't just epic troll, in which case I bow down, I've been trolled.
Start kissing that floor :P
This is why I never come to the forums! ___________
ThUnDeRsTrUcK |

Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:28:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Joe Shooter
This is why I never come to the forums!
Don't worry, I'll be gentle  ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Joe Shooter
Thunderstruck. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:44:00 -
[38]
I stand by my point! ___________
ThUnDeRsTrUcK |

techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.25 23:48:00 -
[39]
Tin foil hattery!!! 
another quality thread in less than a week... what is happening? ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster 
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:01:00 -
[40]
Originally by: techzer0 Tin foil hattery!!! 
another quality thread in less than a week... what is happening?
Did you expect less from me? I expected more from Plave and Talan, but they stole my heart and my ISK! Give me back my wrecks you scoundrels! ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Khandara Seraphim
StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:21:00 -
[41]
This is an epic thread.
I have to say though... if they aren't really doing this level of tinfoilhattery then they SHOULD because I bet the money in salvaging RvB is pretty good. Player ships give a lot more salvage than rats, after all...
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:45:00 -
[42]
just a thought: who is paying the wardecs?
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:51:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Feilamya just a thought: who is paying the wardecs?
Plave is a clever fella - he has even that one figured out! The wars are mutual, so his profits aren't hurt... I tell you, there are no lengths he will go to. ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.26 00:56:00 -
[44]
So is it safe to assume that Red and Blue aren't getting enough pew pew?  ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster 
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 01:00:00 -
[45]
Originally by: techzer0 So is it safe to assume that Red and Blue aren't getting enough pew pew? 
Is there such a thing as enough pew pew? We get plenty of pew vs. pew - we just had a distinct lack of drama that I thought I'd help with. Now I can call people liars when they say RvB is drama/politics-free PvP, and point to my thread. The world is my oyster when I get to call people on lies I tampered with \o/ ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Thmuses
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.26 08:22:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Stanley Cluster
Originally by: Thmuses This would explain those so called safespots of Talans. True traps they are!
You read my mind, Thmuses. You are clever and mighty.
And you have a mighty Incursus, Stanley. Let's go and kill Talan together.
In the end there will be only Red |

kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.26 09:08:00 -
[47]
Quality drama.
But question, why WOULDNT he (or ANYONE else), try to salvage as much as humanly possible for profit?
It just makes sense, if you're losing a lot of isk in this war the boohoo your own damn fault for flying expensive things like an idiot.
Just make salvage alts yourself, I bet tons of people already have. ------ I speak on behalf of my corporation PS. You suck |

Viqer Fell
Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.26 09:31:00 -
[48]
If it was all true then all I would say is that the guy is a true evil genius of epic proportions to have come up with that plan. I mean c'mon that's worthy of a bond villain.
If it is true then the thread is a big fail simply because instead of exposing a big drama all you're doing is showing what a creative thinker the guy is.
If it's not then the thread is just a big fail.
Either way this thread fails. Badly.
Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards |

Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 09:39:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Jack Brazen on 26/03/2008 09:39:55
Originally by: Viqer Fell If it was all true then all I would say is that the guy is a true evil genius of epic proportions to have come up with that plan. I mean c'mon that's worthy of a bond villain.
If it is true then the thread is a big fail simply because instead of exposing a big drama all you're doing is showing what a creative thinker the guy is.
If it's not then the thread is just a big fail.
Either way this thread fails. Badly.
I think you missed a few key posts above Viqer - I'm not surprised that people are still falling for it, but someone so used to people like Ace should have seen through it :P I'll take a bow from you as well, thanks.
The only one with villainous plans around here is me I'm afraid 
Edit: And KUBLAI! I'm shooting big game with this thread it seems :hifive: Talan and Plave. ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.26 10:34:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Jack Brazen Edited by: Jack Brazen on 26/03/2008 09:39:55
Originally by: Viqer Fell If it was all true then all I would say is that the guy is a true evil genius of epic proportions to have come up with that plan. I mean c'mon that's worthy of a bond villain.
If it is true then the thread is a big fail simply because instead of exposing a big drama all you're doing is showing what a creative thinker the guy is.
If it's not then the thread is just a big fail.
Either way this thread fails. Badly.
I think you missed a few key posts above Viqer - I'm not surprised that people are still falling for it, but someone so used to people like Ace should have seen through it :P I'll take a bow from you as well, thanks.
The only one with villainous plans around here is me I'm afraid 
Edit: And KUBLAI! I'm shooting big game with this thread it seems :hifive: Talan and Plave.
I think you need to train reading comprehension V. ------ I speak on behalf of my corporation PS. You suck |

MrBadidea
Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 10:35:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Jack Brazen Okay, this may shock some, but I hope people can take the truths I'm trying to get out, and act accordingly. This, to me, is pretty grave stuff, and deserves a response.
I figured out why Mr. Plave Okice - of Red. - has created RvB. Behind the scenes, Plave has been running a group of salvagers around two key systems – Bei, Blue headquarters, and Hatakani, Red headquarters. Now, we all thought RvB would be a blast, pew pew and all that, but little did any of us know, until now, that Plave was doing all this for our burning wrecks.
Currently, I estimate he has salvaged over 80% of all wrecks related to RvB, including third party losses like those from MF. MF... now that's another matter I'll get back to later. For now, suffice it to say that every time one of us goes down, Plave makes 80% of our salvage value. Money that goes almost directly to him and a few working with him.
Now, all this would be sort of acceptable, except he has set a former RED as Blue alliance leader, who will pretend to make mistakes as FCing, leading fleets into certain death scenarios, or into total slaughters of Red gangs. And all but Plave and Talan are completely unaware of this, and just go along with full trust. It sickens me, that they would play such a game with their own forces, people who trust them, maybe even look up to them, just to make money of our wrecks.
And that leads to the final piece in all this. I have reliable information from a contact in MF, that their war against us was contracted by a so-far un-revealed client. I guess everyone can guess who? Yes, Plave Okice, who tried to scam me into selling a rigged Megathron to him at way below cost (“We're both in RvB mate, I'll help you some other time!”), has HIRED MF to war-dec RvB, and keeps them supplied with intel on our positions and fleets. Plave doesn't much care who wins, his neutral salvagers will profit anyhow, just as long as many people die. Like a vampire, sucking RvB dry to extend his own wallet-life. But I bring the light of truth to his scheme!
So, there you have it. RvB is just one big money-maker for Plave who directs his unknowing pawns into endless deaths that generate endless ISK for him. Profiting from the demise of your fellow players to such an extent... for shame...
Even if true, what does it really change?
RvB is not your standard affair for EVE; it's all about the pewpew. You don't join RvB to make money, or to acquire shiney gear. You join up to have a blast. So what if one of the founders is making money off it? Creating Alliances isn't free, and that money has to come from somewhere. ---
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:00:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Jack Brazen on 26/03/2008 11:04:18
Originally by: kublai I think you need to train reading comprehension V.
Ah, so your advice and comment was general, and not specific to my non-issue? I may have been rash in calling that a score then, but looking back across this thread, I'm surprised people are still posting with no clue. Look at some of the stuff after all the times I showed my cards - that's sort of the best about this thread. You can always rely on people who only read the first post to bump threads, with comments from the past.
And as regards to the salvaging of RvB wrecks in general, I've recommended it several times to people who needed ISK, all in RvB, and as far as I know no one is doing it on a grand scale, least of all Talan and Plave. The great part about threads like this is, there will no doubt still be someone along to answer as if I didn't post this. Charm of internet forums.
OR, maybe I have recently received a large sum of ISK to write the above on C&P, to protect a shady operation that preys ghoulishly on the gullible, and feasts on the carrion left behind? Something so sinister, that even through my reporting in extreme peril, I must maintain my composure, lest the World itself be enslaved by this most dire and craven threat. For it is of the utmost importance that my message be understood, clearly, and followed to the letter. They want to eat our br-... Nah, screw that - it's all a joke people, let's pew pew. ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Plave Okice
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:01:00 -
[53]
/facepalm
CEORed Vs Blue |

Kehmor
PAK Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:16:00 -
[54]
We joined RVB for PvP. We get PvP. I don't see a problem?
Something else I don't see is evidence.
freelance salvagers would naturally pick up on a war like this and show up anyway. Violence isn't the answer, it is the question. The answer is yes. |

Steintz
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:21:00 -
[55]
So does this mean, that Jack wont be coming out to pew pew? 
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:34:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Steintz So does this mean, that Jack wont be coming out to pew pew? 
Of course I'll come out to pew pew - don't be sad Would I have been out fighting you guys the last few days with Talan fc'ing if this were real, OR bothered me?
Scary thing is, Talan suggested I added the CAOD part, but I was afraid it would blow the whole joke, and now no matter how clearly I post it, some people are still missing that bit of the thread. I'm glad I followed Plave's advice not to post it on CAOD instead - imagine the ****-storm there!
It would be a pretty good plan though, eh? I wish I'd had the follow-through and sobriety to capitalize on a large scale myself  ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:45:00 -
[57]
by the way... that reliable source in MF is your own immaginary fabricated friend.
we decced red and blue because they are good pvpers and good fights are hard to find.
this stuff is really hard to belive about the salvage thing.. but MF part is the most laugh iv had today :P
as if Plave Okice wanted intel on fleet positions then why would he make us dec you guys :P we could do that whitout deccing.... it would be sooo much easyer aswell as you guys wouldnt know you are beeing watched. so i call the MF part tottal bull****. ---------------------------------- MY VIEW ARE MY OWN, I DON'T REPRESENT MY CORPORATIONS VIEWS HERE... stop mailing me.. plz
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Plave Okice
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.03.26 12:06:00 -
[58]
It's a troll Riho 
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.26 12:20:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Plave Okice It's a troll Riho 
ill get my hammer... :D ---------------------------------- MY VIEW ARE MY OWN, I DON'T REPRESENT MY CORPORATIONS VIEWS HERE... stop mailing me.. plz
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burek
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.26 12:53:00 -
[60]
Ah, I get it. You're jealous you didn't think of this wonderful scam...
* burek goes to start yellow vs green
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 12:59:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Jack Brazen on 26/03/2008 13:00:48
Originally by: burek Ah, I get it. You're jealous you didn't think of this wonderful scam...
* burek goes to start yellow vs green

I DID think of this scheme (scam isn't really appropriate I think) If anything, I blame the appeal of pew pew over ISK, for me not having set it in motion, instead of just accusing others of it. I'd rather be the one leaving the wreck or turning your ship into one  ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

mingeta dong
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.26 13:04:00 -
[62]
Man, you blues suck with your internet lies and shenanigans.
P.S. Stop shooting my Ravens up when IÆm drunk, vulnerable and horny. kthnx.
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Tchell Dahhn
Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.03.26 13:06:00 -
[63]
Let's just say for shiggles that the creator of Red vs. Blue actually DID figure out this little loophole... WHO CARES?
Actually, I care more about the fact that "Bei" is going to be a nice stomping ground for ME to salvage. I'm more than happy to fly in and salvage the wrecks for my own personal gain.
Anybody going to write a thread about me? (Please?)

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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 13:09:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Jack Brazen on 26/03/2008 13:11:20 That fight was great though - can't remember our exact numbers, but it was that sort of "Frigs and cruisers, we kill what we can, die to what we can't." gang. Saying that, had we lost the whole gang after taking out your Raven, we probably still would have been far ahead ISK-wise.
Edit: Yes Tchell, I'll make something up about you next. I hear you have an unnatural, sexual attraction to Moas - c/c? ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Plave Okice
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.03.26 14:00:00 -
[65]
ITT: jack trolls people but confesses to early when he could have trolled more
Red Vs Blue |

Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 14:05:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Plave Okice ITT: jack trolls people but confesses to early when he could have trolled more
Are you kidding me? Look at how early I made everything clear and obvious, and how many replies follow. I could make a big sign and people would still post. Its like a passive troll point generator. ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Tchell Dahhn
Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.03.26 14:21:00 -
[67]
ITT: Tchell Dahhn admits to salvaging wrecks without permission, and offers assistance to Red vs. Blue, but goes unnoticed, and unloved.

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Shiodome
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.26 15:26:00 -
[68]
i spent a short while in RvB with an alt, and do remember the hordes of NPC corp salvagers at the main undock points. was amazing how often they looted as well and got blown up for it . pity the fights were so **** :S _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
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Gallant Nose
Thunderstruck. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.26 19:28:00 -
[69]
Well, I have to say, this thread turned out better than expected.
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Sean Dillon
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.26 23:59:00 -
[70]
I know that dude, he's a smart ass and a genius, but especially a smart ass. But I doubt he would get rich of the wrecks of t1 cruisers.
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Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.27 00:23:00 -
[71]
Didn't read the thread but if this is true it's ****ing awesome. THAT'S what profiteering is supposed to look like.  ______________________________
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GreGh Rakrot
Naughty 40 Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:23:00 -
[72]
People find conspiracy everywhere these days. I can assure you Plave could get much richer if he wouldnt create RvB and run this salvaging. He had billions already when he was in my corp so he knows how to get isk much easier.
What OP is saying is something similar as if, before Privateers were nerfed someone would accuse creator of that alliance, that he is running network of neutral haulers that steal loot from Privateers and making profit 
Really dont see why such suprise that there is alot of salvaging going on when everywhere is advertised where the fights will mainly happen and every noob these days is told that he can make good starting isk salvaging.
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:49:00 -
[73]
Soylent Green is people - c/d? ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |
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