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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:34:00 -
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Okay, this may shock some, but I hope people can take the truths I'm trying to get out, and act accordingly. This, to me, is pretty grave stuff, and deserves a response.
I figured out why Mr. Plave Okice - of Red. - has created RvB. Behind the scenes, Plave has been running a group of salvagers around two key systems û Bei, Blue headquarters, and Hatakani, Red headquarters. Now, we all thought RvB would be a blast, pew pew and all that, but little did any of us know, until now, that Plave was doing all this for our burning wrecks.
Currently, I estimate he has salvaged over 80% of all wrecks related to RvB, including third party losses like those from MF. MF... now that's another matter I'll get back to later. For now, suffice it to say that every time one of us goes down, Plave makes 80% of our salvage value. Money that goes almost directly to him and a few working with him.
Now, all this would be sort of acceptable, except he has set a former RED as Blue alliance leader, who will pretend to make mistakes as FCing, leading fleets into certain death scenarios, or into total slaughters of Red gangs. And all but Plave and Talan are completely unaware of this, and just go along with full trust. It sickens me, that they would play such a game with their own forces, people who trust them, maybe even look up to them, just to make money of our wrecks.
And that leads to the final piece in all this. I have reliable information from a contact in MF, that their war against us was contracted by a so-far un-revealed client. I guess everyone can guess who? Yes, Plave Okice, who tried to scam me into selling a rigged Megathron to him at way below cost (ôWe're both in RvB mate, I'll help you some other time!ö), has HIRED MF to war-dec RvB, and keeps them supplied with intel on our positions and fleets. Plave doesn't much care who wins, his neutral salvagers will profit anyhow, just as long as many people die. Like a vampire, sucking RvB dry to extend his own wallet-life. But I bring the light of truth to his scheme!
So, there you have it. RvB is just one big money-maker for Plave who directs his unknowing pawns into endless deaths that generate endless ISK for him. Profiting from the demise of your fellow players to such an extent... for shame... ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Raivi
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Raivi on 25/03/2008 20:42:36 Edited by: Raivi on 25/03/2008 20:41:26 First!
Honestly I find this hard to believe. I've been in Red since the beginning and I'd assume that if Plave has been doing this he'd have offered to cut me in by now.
It has been mostly the same NPC corp members salvaging wrecks around our battles wherever we go, but I think it's probably just a bunch of opportunistic n00bs.
Talan's crappy FCing a result of Talan being a crappy FC. C/D?
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Talan Calonid
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:36:00 -
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Poasting in an epic thread.
 Red v Blue |

Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
EVE Rehabilitation Hub Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:41:00 -
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Dammit, I'd joined RvB as a way of getting some (relatively) save PvP experience that wasnt going to be in low sec, and in the last week I've lost around 800Mil's worth of kit and ships - if this is true, I'm probably going to pack it in and head back to carebear'ing.
Its a sad state of affairs when a great idea like RvB ends up being twisted in such a way, its things like this that end up really shafting this level of group interaction.
What a gimp.
Em.
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Willoughby Dashwood
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:45:00 -
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I.. er.. 
*head explodes*
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passivity
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:46:00 -
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oh noes - me runs for tinfoil
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Thmuses
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:47:00 -
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This would explain those so called safespots of Talans. True traps they are!
In the end there will be only Red |

eritalker
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:49:00 -
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I thought my ammo looked like bits from my destroyed ships.
The price of Cormorants has shot up too
tinfoilhattery
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Jennifer Morgue
YELLOW.
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:51:00 -
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So? Isn't this the purpose of the games. Plave is just working on a lower level than CCP. They make us all pay monthly with real money to see our ships get wrecked. / Warlord of Yellow!
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Talonmirth
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.03.25 20:57:00 -
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Sounds rather eveish to me.
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Vim
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:02:00 -
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Atleast you know who to primary =) And ofc, bring your own neut salvager to the fights yarr!
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Gallant Nose
Thunderstruck. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:03:00 -
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/me shakes fist at Plave
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weedmasta
PAK Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Emrys Ap'Morgravaine Dammit, I'd joined RvB as a way of getting some (relatively) save PvP experience...
Relatively save PvP experience? Are you sure you are playing the right game?  ___________________________________
Shuuuun, shuuuun the smacktalkers.
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Stanley Cluster
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Thmuses This would explain those so called safespots of Talans. True traps they are!
You read my mind, Thmuses. You are clever and mighty.
Violets are blue and I am red if you are blue you are so dead |

Talan Calonid
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: Talan Calonid on 25/03/2008 21:24:59 Edited by: Talan Calonid on 25/03/2008 21:21:20
Originally by: Raivi Talan's crappy FCing a result of Talan being a crappy FC. C/D?
c.
Originally by: Stanley Cluster
Originally by: Thmuses This would explain those so called safespots of Talans. True traps they are!
You read my mind, Thmuses. You are clever and mighty.
Actually, they are 'Spots formerly known as safe,' fyi.
*sips rum*
Furthermore,
Red v Blue |

Darius Avalon
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Talan Calonid Edited by: Talan Calonid on 25/03/2008 21:21:20
Originally by: Raivi Talan's crappy FCing a result of Talan being a crappy FC. C/D?
c.
C, confirming Talan's confirmation.
Still, never knew you were behind such a sinister plot 
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Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
EVE Rehabilitation Hub Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Emrys Ap''Morgravaine on 25/03/2008 21:28:15
Originally by: weedmasta
Originally by: Emrys Ap'Morgravaine Dammit, I'd joined RvB as a way of getting some (relatively) save PvP experience...
Relatively save PvP experience? Are you sure you are playing the right game? 
Relative to say: Cosying up to BoB Pretending your friends with the Goons Running Lvl 5's Smack talking your way through the drone regions and proclaiming WoW to be the best game ever...
Funny though, now that I think on it, I lost that Rokh with Talan as FC - suddenly it all becomes clear.
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
Originally by: weedmasta
Originally by: Emrys Ap'Morgravaine Dammit, I'd joined RvB as a way of getting some (relatively) save PvP experience...
Relatively save PvP experience? Are you sure you are playing the right game? 
Relative to say: Cosying up to BoB Pretending your friends with the Goons Running Lvl 5's Smack talking your way through the drone regions and proclaiming WoW to be the best game ever...
Those all sound a lot safer than having Talan as FC! ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Asuka Smith
StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:32:00 -
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This reminds me of the religious nuts and the technocrats in the new Deus Ex game...
And honestly I am not surprised that the same guy is in control of Red and Blue playing them against eachother for his own gains.
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:46:00 -
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There is no such thing as a free lunch 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu edit: Wow, that was unpleasant, I felt pity for someone. Won't happen again.
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PraetorNZ
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:50:00 -
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fail. Plave would have invited me in by now if this was true. he knows how much i like seeing things go splode no matter whose they are :p
and anyway. endless deaths are what RvB is all about
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: PraetorNZ and anyway. endless deaths are what RvB is all about
And salvage, apparently!! ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Tai Paktu
Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.03.25 21:55:00 -
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COAD -> ______
http://eve-files.com/sig/TaiPaktu/sig3.PNG |

Wgaord
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:04:00 -
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Tbh I don't really care. So many people fly T1 ships anyways that he can't be making much out of it and he's allowing ppl to have a good time and enjoy the game whilst doing so. To me it seems as if everybody wins (I haven't really been in any fleets or big gangs though so I don't know what these fights end up like).
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Talan Calonid
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:17:00 -
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/me hands out the tinfoil
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Talan Calonid /me hands out the tinfoil

There's not enough tinfoil to cover up the horrible things you and Plave have done! ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |

Tchell Dahhn
Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Brazen Behind the scenes, Plave has been running a group of salvagers around two key systems û Bei, Blue headquarters, and Hatakani, Red headquarters. Now, we all thought RvB would be a blast, pew pew and all that, but little did any of us know, until now, that Plave was doing all this for our burning wrecks.
I hereby offer my services, for a percentage of the salvage.
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:28:00 -
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You would think that if the title of the thread says "CAOD STYLE" it would actually be posted in CAOD. Also: Who cares if hes making money off these wars? As long as your all having fun pew pewin it shouldnt matter if hes making a quick buck. All problems can be solved if noone dies anymore :3
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Avaricia
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:28:00 -
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this thread is absurd.
oh noes people that join for cheap and fun pvp are DYING?! the humanity! WONT SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!
seriously though, aside from the fact nobody gives a ****, alliances cost isk to maintain.
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Joe Shooter
Thunderstruck. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.25 22:52:00 -
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I'm truly speechless. 
As as of such you wont see a word from me in this thread.
Not once, nope. Not a single one. ___________
ThUnDeRsTrUcK |
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