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Derek Sigres
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:35:00 -
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The Rokh and the Drake have always bugged the HELL out of me. Where most Caldari ships have been named after animals, especially birds, the Rokh stands out like a sore thumb being named after some ancient warlord or some such nonsense. The Drake on the other hand is named after a freakin' duck of all things.
Most Caldari ships even have a theme within them. I'll use ECM ships as an example: The Frigates are named for mythylogical creatrues (The Griffin and the Kitsune (a 9 tailed fox of Japenese legend). The Cruisers (Blackbird, Rook, Falcon) are all named after birds. The Battleships (Widow and Scorpion) are both named after poisionous arachnids. All of these creatures are known for using wiles, trickery and downright underhanded tactics to survive in the wild.
The Missile ships follow a similar pattern. The Frigate (kestral) is a bird of prey. The cruiser (Caracal) is named after a predatory cat. The HAC (Cerberus) is named for the 3 headed guard dog at the gates of Hell. The Battlecruiser (drake) is named after a DUCK?! The command ship (night hawk) is named after a small bird of prey. The Battleship (raven) is named for a carion bird. The Phoenix is named for a mythological bird famed for it's ability to set itself on fire to renew itself. With the exception of the Drake, all of these are named after a creature intimatly involved in the death of other creatures.
The Railships break the mold even more The Frigate (merlin) is named, at least as far as I can tell, after the mytical wizard who guided King Arthur in his early years. The Cruiser (Moa)is named after a large flightless bird. The HAC (Eagle) is named after one of the larger birds of prey. The Battlecruiser (Ferox) is named apparently after a gasoline addative or an obscure movie from the early '80's. The command ship (vulture) is named after a large carrion bird. The Battleship (Rokh) is POSSIBLY named after a famed ancient leader in Asia. There IS no theme here.
Clearly, the Drake and Rokh are evil Gallente plants designed to somehow weaken the Caldari ships as a whole by substutiting clever and majestic names with those of tinhorn dictators and DUCKS! And the railships are clearly designed as an afterthough, given the names were picked by throwing darts.
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:42:00 -
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A duck *IS* a bird...
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Derek Sigres
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:44:00 -
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 Originally by: Liang Nuren
A duck *IS* a bird...
Sure it's a bird, but it's a DUCK. When I see a flock of ducks I'm not worried about being pecked to death. When Hitchcock was directing The Birds he didn't cast any DUCKS to play the villan. It's no wonder that no one respects the PVP Drake - who's afraid of DUCKS. 
Also, this post was inspired by pure, unfiltered boredom. . .
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:47:00 -
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Ferox is a latin word meaning fierce. It's quite possibly named in favor of the harpa ferox, or brush hawk.
Also, haven't you ever heard of the Mighty Ducks? =)
-Liang
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arbalesttom
Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: arbalesttom on 27/03/2008 04:48:04
Duck is a good name for the drake, since it quacks alot but it doesnt bite, and yeah, there slow
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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Charges
Binary Logistics Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:50:00 -
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Maybe im wrong but isn't a Rokh a mythical giant bird that was said to eat elephants and a Drake is also a small dragon as well as a male duck.
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Derek Sigres
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Derek Sigres on 27/03/2008 04:52:14
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Ferox is a latin word meaning fierce. It's quite possibly named in favor of the harpa ferox, or brush hawk.
Also, haven't you ever heard of the Mighty Ducks? =)
-Liang
I FIGURED there had to be a reason to use the word Ferox, but the best I could find was a gasoline addative and that seems like a REALLY REALLY obscure reference.
And when it comes to the Mighty Ducks. . . Sure I'm more afraid of the anaheim goalie than I am of a duck that I throw bread at but that's not saying much.
And apparently I stand completely corrected on the Drake - it IS an archaic word for Dragon.
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ThaDollaGenerale
Endless Destruction
Total Eclipse Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
the Kitsune (a 9 tailed fox of Japenese legend)
Ummm, Kitsune or 狐 or きつね is the Japanese word for fox. It's always been that way as long as I've lived in Japan. It is considered a Shinto kami or spirit, and then it will have 9 tails, but it just really only means fox.
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Derek Sigres
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale
Originally by: Derek Sigres
the Kitsune (a 9 tailed fox of Japenese legend)
Ummm, Kitsune or 狐 or きつね is the Japanese word for fox. It's always been that way as long as I've lived in Japan. It is considered a Shinto kami or spirit, and then it will have 9 tails, but it just really only means fox.
Fair enough, the Fox is still portrayed in Western Literature at least as being a clever beast who uses trickery and subterfuge.
And now that you mention it, that does explain the name of the game Okami.
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:56:00 -
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I wonder if Rokh is a different spelling of Roc?
-Liang
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Mahn AlNouhm
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.03.27 05:17:00 -
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Edited by: Mahn AlNouhm on 27/03/2008 05:24:53
"The Romans picked up the word draco. Eventually it was Anglicized to drake and gallicized to dragon."
Google's not such a terrible site, you know.
Info about Drakes
Pay close attention to the image at the top of the screen and read the caption beneath it.
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Rip Marley
Spartan Fleet Systems
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 05:23:00 -
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I kind of got beaten to the punch here, but when I saw a new Caldari ship called a Drake, I never knew that was a kind of duck. I assumed it was a reference to a dragon, which of course is a mythologcal beast that did whatever it wanted.
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Markit Broker
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.03.27 06:14:00 -
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lulz,
drake is a young dragon btw.
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Rawr Cristina
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.27 07:38:00 -
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and then the Scorpion comes and ruins everything
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Phoenicia
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Phoenicia on 27/03/2008 08:05:03
Non-bird Caldari ships:
Scorpion (That thing with the exoskeleton and the stinger on the tail)
Caracal (cat)
Ferox (latin word, used in several biological descriptions; a fish, plant and turtle)
Badger (Surprised no one saw this one as objectionable before  )
Basilisk (Lizard)
Kitsune (Fox/object of furry affections)
Raptor (Lizard)
Harpy (well, partially. Part hot nekkid chick, part bird.)
Manticore (Lion-man-scorpion hybrid. Rumor says it's winged.)
Onyx (Stone. Black.)
Wyvern (Dragon subtype.)
Chimera (Dragon/lion/snake/...goat?)
Leviathan (Watery dragon-thing. Ate Rydia.)
Please note that the Flycatcher can be both a bird and a plant. The Rokh is a huge legendary bird. Drake can mean dragon or duck. Kinda like Trogdor, except a dragon-duck instead of a dragon-man.
I think that covers all of them.
Okay, special mention:
Caldari shuttle (Named after the race that designed the shuttle)
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Disco Flint
The Flaming Sideburn's
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.03.27 08:37:00 -
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Edited by: Disco Flint on 27/03/2008 08:37:22
Originally by: Phoenicia
Edited by: Phoenicia on 27/03/2008 08:05:03
Non-bird Caldari ships:
Scorpion (That thing with the exoskeleton and the stinger on the tail)
Caracal (cat)
Ferox (latin word, used in several biological descriptions; a fish, plant and turtle)
Badger (Surprised no one saw this one as objectionable before )
Basilisk (Lizard)
Kitsune (Fox/object of furry affections)
Raptor (Lizard)
Harpy (well, partially. Part hot nekkid chick, part bird.)
Manticore (Lion-man-scorpion hybrid. Rumor says it's winged.)
Onyx (Stone. Black.)
Wyvern (Dragon subtype.)
Chimera (Dragon/lion/snake/...goat?)
Leviathan (Watery dragon-thing. Ate Rydia.)
Please note that the Flycatcher can be both a bird and a plant. The Rokh is a huge legendary bird. Drake can mean dragon or duck. Kinda like Trogdor, except a dragon-duck instead of a dragon-man.
I think that covers all of them.
Okay, special mention:
Caldari shuttle (Named after the race that designed the shuttle)
-edit- Added capships
off the top of my head:
Cerberus, three headed dog, guardian of Hades
edit: ah, op mentioned it
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Phoenicia
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Disco Flint
off the top of my head:
Cerberus, three headed dog, guardian of Hades
edit: ah, op mentioned it
Completely missed that one. I will now commence the ancient Caldari tradition of banging my head against the wall.
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Lakut
EmpiresMod
Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenicia
Originally by: Disco Flint
off the top of my head:
Cerberus, three headed dog, guardian of Hades
edit: ah, op mentioned it
Completely missed that one. I will now commence the ancient Caldari tradition of banging my head against the wall.
Ah, fine. Very well. Commence.
To complete the list some more.
Charon (either some family of spiderlike thingies or the greek mythology son of Erebus and Nyx that ferried dead folks over the river Styx. Considering it's a freighter, I'd call the latter)
Rhea (Greek mythology chick)
Golem (clay dude)
I think that covers the non-bird caldari ships.
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Zaknussem
The Ironbreakers
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Posted - 2008.03.27 09:35:00 -
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Ducks are evil. Everyone knows that.
That said, I still fail to see how a person that has lived longer than their spouse can be said to be a poisonous arachnid. Sure, I know of the Black Widow Spider, but two of the three words used to identify the species are not used in the name of the Caldari Black Ops ship.
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Disco Flint
The Flaming Sideburn's
Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Zaknussem
Ducks are evil. Everyone knows that.
That said, I still fail to see how a person that has lived longer than their spouse can be said to be a poisonous arachnid. Sure, I know of the Black Widow Spider, but two of the three words used to identify the species are not used in the name of the Caldari Black Ops ship.
Personally, I'd like to see a ship class called the Chicken, or maybe Turkey. There's nothing as embarrassing as being owned by someone flyng a Chicken. I know the Bantam comes close, but still...
Well, there's still the Prophecy. And yes, unless you were in a hauler it would be extremely emberassing to get owned by one :D
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Katarlia Simov
Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lakut
Originally by: Phoenicia
Originally by: Disco Flint
off the top of my head:
Cerberus, three headed dog, guardian of Hades
edit: ah, op mentioned it
Completely missed that one. I will now commence the ancient Caldari tradition of banging my head against the wall.
Ah, fine. Very well. Commence.
To complete the list some more.
Charon (either some family of spiderlike thingies or the greek mythology son of Erebus and Nyx that ferried dead folks over the river Styx. Considering it's a freighter, I'd call the latter)
Rhea (Greek mythology chick)
Golem (clay dude)
I think that covers the non-bird caldari ships.
Golems are more than just the DnD big beasts made of clay.
They are constructs made by wise and holy men who had attained a measure of gods knowledge and understanding.
One of later legends about them said that a rabbi made a golem so powerful that when he was finally able to destroy it, it fell down and crushed him.
So depending which myth you like best, a golem is either the creation of wise men to serve there intentions (quite appropraite), or its something that can invoke hubris and will destroy anyone who tried to make one.
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Jennifer Flate
theFragment
The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.03.27 12:16:00 -
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AND Golem is the evolutionary form of Graveler :)(pokTmon for those who don't know).
BTW i never thought of the drake as a duck, always a dragon thing.
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Crellion
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.03.27 12:45:00 -
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I would like to see a new caldari ship... perhaps BC tier3, allready fitted with missle launchers (malkuths) and a tractor beam, a passive shield tank suported by all mid and low slots and named the "NOOBLAR"... it should be impossible to remove fittings without destroying it...
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J'Mkarr Soban
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.03.27 12:55:00 -
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A Merlin is a bird of prey too: No really, Google + Wikipedia is a good thing.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:45:00 -
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Flycatcher?
Originally by: CCP Oveur
...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Sir Ibex
Polytope
DO JAJA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:46:00 -
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OP, have you ever played any RPGs or fantasy games in your life? Aside from a male duck, a Drake is also a small DRAGON.
Drake
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Drake may refer to:
Animals
* A male duck
* One of a range of artificial bait used in fly fishing
* archaic: a dragon [Middle English drake, Old English draca]
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vanBuskirk
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:53:00 -
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Harpy is a kind of eagle as well as a mythological half-bird monster. The name has also been given to an anti-radar missile system. Flycatcher is a type of bird. Strangely enough, it's insectivorous (catches flies  ).
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: vanBuskirk
Harpy is a kind of eagle as well as a mythological half-bird monster. The name has also been given to an anti-radar missile system. Flycatcher is a type of bird. Strangely enough, it's insectivorous (catches flies ).
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Derek Sigres
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Ibex
OP, have you ever played any RPGs or fantasy games in your life? Aside from a male duck, a Drake is also a small DRAGON.
Drake
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Drake may refer to:
Animals
* A male duck
* One of a range of artificial bait used in fly fishing
* archaic: a dragon [Middle English drake, Old English draca]
I rescinded my view on the Drake and I may as well on the Rokh - I was never able to find out what a "Rokh" was. And once someone pointed out the Drake is also a Dragon I kinda smacked my forehead and said "DOH!" because I knew that I just didn't remember.
In fact, my entire post was written entirely for LOLZ when it struck me that those two ships in particular didn't seem to fit the naming scheme. And yes, I have played quite a few RPG's and Fantasy Games, but I don't really recall them refering to Dragons as Drakes - I think Magic the Gathering may have though but that was a long time ago.
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Sir Ibex
OP, have you ever played any RPGs or fantasy games in your life? Aside from a male duck, a Drake is also a small DRAGON.
Drake
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Drake may refer to:
Animals
* A male duck
* One of a range of artificial bait used in fly fishing
* archaic: a dragon [Middle English drake, Old English draca]
I rescinded my view on the Drake and I may as well on the Rokh - I was never able to find out what a "Rokh" was. And once someone pointed out the Drake is also a Dragon I kinda smacked my forehead and said "DOH!" because I knew that I just didn't remember.
In fact, my entire post was written entirely for LOLZ when it struck me that those two ships in particular didn't seem to fit the naming scheme. And yes, I have played quite a few RPG's and Fantasy Games, but I don't really recall them refering to Dragons as Drakes - I think Magic the Gathering may have though but that was a long time ago.
Rokh is the persian spelling of Roc.
I posted a quote from Wikipedia here. ;-)
-Liang
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Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2008.03.27 17:26:00 -
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Having the Drake named after a duck isn't all that bad. Alone, they're kinda cute and harmless, but in large groups they can be rather scary if you **** them off.
Have you ever been rushed by a mob of angry mother-ducks defending their ducklings?
I have.
I about soiled myself.
True story.
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Derek Sigres
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Sir Ibex
OP, have you ever played any RPGs or fantasy games in your life? Aside from a male duck, a Drake is also a small DRAGON.
Drake
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Drake may refer to:
Animals
* A male duck
* One of a range of artificial bait used in fly fishing
* archaic: a dragon [Middle English drake, Old English draca]
I rescinded my view on the Drake and I may as well on the Rokh - I was never able to find out what a "Rokh" was. And once someone pointed out the Drake is also a Dragon I kinda smacked my forehead and said "DOH!" because I knew that I just didn't remember.
In fact, my entire post was written entirely for LOLZ when it struck me that those two ships in particular didn't seem to fit the naming scheme. And yes, I have played quite a few RPG's and Fantasy Games, but I don't really recall them refering to Dragons as Drakes - I think Magic the Gathering may have though but that was a long time ago.
Rokh is the persian spelling of Roc.
I posted a quote from Wikipedia here. ;-)
-Liang
Now, all the questions have been answered.
Next on the list - why do caldari ships look so very VERY terrible
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Bronson Hughes
Knights of the Wild
Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2008.03.27 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Next on the list - why do caldari ships look so very VERY terrible
I rather like the way most of them look. The only real complaints that I have are regarding the turret placements on some of them.
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Derek Sigres
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bronson Hughes
Originally by: Derek Sigres
Next on the list - why do caldari ships look so very VERY terrible
I rather like the way most of them look. The only real complaints that I have are regarding the turret placements on some of them.
Some people say that. I think those people are insane. I think a handful of Caldari ships look pretty sweet (Kestral, Drake, Rokh, Pheonix are all i've personally seen in space). I have never liked the gunmetal paint jobs or the fact that apparently caldari ships desperately NEED to be asymetrical.
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Earl Black
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:07:00 -
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Merlin is a bird, not the Wizard Linkage
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Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
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Posted - 2008.03.27 20:12:00 -
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Apparently the OP has never had a gang of "ducks" come and start pecking away at his shins before.  Never **** off a duck.
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Atsuko Ratu
VSP Corp.
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.03.27 20:41:00 -
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Ducks have great tanks.
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RisingDragon
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.27 21:23:00 -
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I like to think that the Golum is named after a hobbit like creature, the irony being the pilots flying them refer to lvl 4 missions as 'the precious'
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Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.27 23:25:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Phoenicia
Raptor (Lizard)
Raptor is a type/classification of bird also.
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Lakut
EmpiresMod
Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Ibex
Drake
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Drake may refer to:
Animals
* A male duck
* One of a range of artificial bait used in fly fishing
* archaic: a dragon [Middle English drake, Old English draca]
I read that article too when I first saw the OP and wondered why nobody made jokes about it being a bait yet. 
Originally by: Derek Sigres
And yes, I have played quite a few RPG's and Fantasy Games, but I don't really recall them refering to Dragons as Drakes - I think Magic the Gathering may have though but that was a long time ago.
Magic does. A lot.
And speaking of magic. Off to play it with a buddy. o7
Also, lolgoonsmomma (from Unhinged, a joke edition).
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What Trigger
ADAMA Corps
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.03.28 01:08:00 -
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Well I would rather be flying a Duck instead of the little Bantam which is a Chicken.
Funny thing is arnt ducks suppose to be the fastest flying bird in level flight (ie not diving speeds of eagles etc)
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Lan al'Mandragoran
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.28 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Ibex
OP, have you ever played any RPGs or fantasy games in your life? Aside from a male duck, a Drake is also a small DRAGON.
Drake
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Drake may refer to:
Animals
* A male duck
* One of a range of artificial bait used in fly fishing
* archaic: a dragon [Middle English drake, Old English draca]
The Funny part if you think about is that CCP picked a name that is spot on and all three are right...
1. A Male Duck (the drake is so slow even with a mwd that the term "a sitting duck comes to mind")
2. Fishing Bait (do to its great tank it is a well known bait ship used by pirate gangs, and anti pirate gangs alike. So this is also applicable)
3. Well the dragon part is what we would all like to think of the drake so its applicable as well
:)
All three work. sort of nice how that works out isn't it 
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Vyllana
Omen Incorporated
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.28 06:02:00 -
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Drake obviously refers to the usage as a dragon. Rokh is a spelling of Roc, which is a giant mythical bird, encountered not only in mythology but in many modern works of fantasy. Furthermore, many other Caldari ships are named after mythical, rather than real, creatures. The Leviathan, Phoenix, Chimera, and Cerberus are other examples of this. Don't see any inconsistency.
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Phoenicia
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.28 06:30:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Vyllana
Drake obviously refers to the usage as a dragon.
Disagree. It's the most obvious one for us roleplaying geeks who immediately associate a Drake with a Dragon. However, considering most Caldari ships are named after 'real' birds, the ducksplanation holds equal ground.
Only a dev can confirm/deny what they were thinking in the first place.
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.28 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenicia
Disagree. It's the most obvious one for us roleplaying geeks who immediately associate a Drake with a Dragon. However, considering most Caldari ships are named after 'real' birds, the ducksplanation holds equal ground.
Only a dev can confirm/deny what they were thinking in the first place.
I'd always thought it was named after a duck, and I'm... familiar with many gaming systems.
-Liang
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Phoenicia
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.28 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
I'd always thought it was named after a duck, and I'm... familiar with many gaming systems.
-Liang
Then, you are also wise in the ways of science?
I'll rephrase: Every gamer who doesn't know that "drake" can also refer to a duck immediately associates the name with a dragon.
But if a drake weighs the same as a duck, is it a witch?
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.28 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenicia
Then, you are also wise in the ways of science?
Yeah, I'm a "scientist". ;-)
Quote:
I'll rephrase: Every gamer who doesn't know that "drake" can also refer to a duck immediately associates the name with a dragon.
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But if a drake weighs the same as a duck, is it a witch?
Uh, 4. I know this because of phd training.
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Phoenicia
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.28 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
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But if a drake weighs the same as a duck, is it a witch?
Uh, 4. I know this because of phd training.
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Dotard
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 12:13:00 -
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Ducks are overpowered! 'Nerf the Ducks!
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.28 12:33:00 -
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And yes, I have played quite a few RPG's and Fantasy Games, but I don't really recall them refering to Dragons as Drakes
/me points at the mother of fantasy MMO's, Ultima Online.
UO had both dragons and drakes, and wyverns, and well, alot of other names for big lizards.
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Terror DeBiaN
Lucid Space Discoveries
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Posted - 2008.03.28 15:24:00 -
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This would probably be the most appropriate reference for Rokh
Pic of a Rokh
Also found reference to Rokh meaning "a heroic soldier, Chariot, or Fortress".
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Jennae
Unity of Honor
Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2008.03.28 15:34:00 -
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I would like to commend you on your "leviathan" description.
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Selene Lunaglaux
Trit for the Trit Throne
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
/me points at the mother of fantasy MMO's, Ultima Online.
Pshaw. MUDs are the mother of fantasy MMO's.
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cytomatrix
Carebear Killers Inc.
DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 16:29:00 -
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Drake is a dragon. As its a caldari, ccp had to make it as scary as a duck. :P
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Radcjk
Dark Star LTD
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.03.28 17:44:00 -
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Yes, a Rokh is also a Roc, ie a large mythological bird.
The drake is not named after a duck. Its named after a dragon, or type of lesser dragon, depending on how and whos definition you want to look at.
Do I have hard evidence ? Not so much, given every other named ships theme it adds up much better
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Ulstan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.28 19:34:00 -
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A Roc(Rokh) is a giant bird
Drake is a young dragon
I fail to see a prolem.
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Trevor Warps
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Trevor Warps on 28/03/2008 20:19:48
Originally by: Markit Broker
lulz,
drake is a young dragon btw.
Exactly.
I'm sure they where thinking of that when they picked the name than some sort of Daffy Duck.
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co.
Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.03.28 21:36:00 -
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Actually, it's most likely a fighting duck, which have to use their skills to survive other duck attacks (honest, I watched a documentary about it). And I'm pretty sure the Rokh is a bird.
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Ironbrow Industries Co.
Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.03.28 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lan al'Mandragoran
Originally by: Sir Ibex
OP, have you ever played any RPGs or fantasy games in your life? Aside from a male duck, a Drake is also a small DRAGON.
Drake
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Drake may refer to:
Animals
* A male duck
* One of a range of artificial bait used in fly fishing
* archaic: a dragon [Middle English drake, Old English draca]
The Funny part if you think about is that CCP picked a name that is spot on and all three are right...
1. A Male Duck (the drake is so slow even with a mwd that the term "a sitting duck comes to mind")
2. Fishing Bait (do to its great tank it is a well known bait ship used by pirate gangs, and anti pirate gangs alike. So this is also applicable)
3. Well the dragon part is what we would all like to think of the drake so its applicable as well
:)
All three work. sort of nice how that works out isn't it
QFT. I was thinking this aswell, they picked that name very well.
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Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Rokh is the persian spelling of Roc.
I posted a quote from Wikipedia here. ;-)
-Liang
Well, technically speaking "Rokh" couldn't possibly be a Persian spelling.
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.28 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Rokh is the persian spelling of Roc.
I posted a quote from Wikipedia here. ;-)
-Liang
Well, technically speaking "Rokh" couldn't possibly be a Persian spelling.
Then edit wikipedia. :P
-Liang
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Kirren D'marr
The Elear
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.03.29 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim
Flycatcher?
Flycatcher
Originally by: What Trigger
Well I would rather be flying a Duck instead of the little Bantam which is a Chicken.
Funny thing is arnt ducks suppose to be the fastest flying bird in level flight (ie not diving speeds of eagles etc)
Negative, Peregrine Falcon has level flight speeds of 45-55mph(diving over 200mph). Prarie Falcon is even faster.
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Arvald
Warp Riders
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.29 05:32:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 29/03/2008 05:33:13
a drake is a small dragon....
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Arvald
Warp Riders
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.29 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 29/03/2008 05:40:23
Edited by: Arvald on 29/03/2008 05:39:49
Edited by: Arvald on 29/03/2008 05:39:34
Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban
A Merlin is a bird of prey too: No really, Google + Wikipedia is a good thing.
that is a merlin
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Julius Romanus
Fatalix Inc.
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.29 06:16:00 -
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That thing looks badass.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.29 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Julius Romanus
That thing looks badass.
The ship looks badass too.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.29 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Liang Nuren
A duck *IS* a bird...
Sure it's a bird, but it's a DUCK. When I see a flock of ducks I'm not worried about being pecked to death.
Well, yeah, and when you see a flock of Drakes
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Julius Romanus
Fatalix Inc.
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.29 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Julius Romanus
That thing looks badass.
The ship looks badass too.
Its decent looking. No malediction though.
Oddly enough, i think the ferox isnt half bad looking. It looks like a military combat space ship. It isnt even all that lopsided
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Righteous Deeds
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Posted - 2008.03.29 15:34:00 -
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Raptor, not Velociraptor.
"Raptors" refers to meat-eating birds of prey that generally kill from the air. Eagles, hawks, falcons, etc.
Thus ends the ornithology lesson for today.
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Noisrevbus
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.29 15:59:00 -
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Further tidbits and guesses.
I saw that some people already made the connection between Drake and Dragon (-spawn) and the Rokh-Roc relation.
In certain translations Drake is synonymous with Kite (Dragonspawn, not fully developed), Kite is also the name of a bird within the Falcon family of birds of prey.
Caracal is most likely just a typo referring to the Caracara, another bird of prey.
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Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.29 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Rokh is the persian spelling of Roc.
I posted a quote from Wikipedia here. ;-)
-Liang
Well, technically speaking "Rokh" couldn't possibly be a Persian spelling.
Then edit wikipedia. :P
-Liang
What I mean is that Persian has, not just a completely different alphabet, but a completely different spelling logic. So, saying they spell it this way in Persian (which the Wiki article doesn't literally say) and giving a word in roman letters is wrong regardless. It would be more accurate to say they pronounce it "Rokh" in Persian.
I'm just being difficult. Ignore me.
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