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Miso
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:00:00 -
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Hey folks,
Is anyone else getting spammed with pop-ups when they log into the eve client? Last night I had about 50 pop-ups over the course of the evening flash up when I connected - mainly ones advertising various disreputable internet services ( ). It only happens when I fire up the Eve client, not when I open Outlook, or MSN or Explorer, which is kinda worrying.
My firewall doesn't seem to stop them, (I'm using Macafee firewall) and its getting very annoying.
Help?
Miso x
PS - I am a complete computer duffer so don't get too techie on my ass!
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Myko
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:04:00 -
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have you checked to see if windows messenger is running? (not msn messenger)
if it is, then
How to remove windows messenger popups
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:13:00 -
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Try BlackViper - he suggests 2 ways of fixing it.
One is to turn off the appropriate services (very techy)
Two is to adjust your firewall to block certain ports (could be easy but it depends on McAfee firewall).
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Leverty
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:17:00 -
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Ad-Aware maybe ?! Try download.com or google to get ulr for it...
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Black Lotus
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:21:00 -
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Check ur firewall program controls for Microsoft generic host processes for Win32 file. if its there block it. Otherwise i dunno, weird. Maybe try turning on ad-blocking if u use nortons.
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TauTut
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:22:00 -
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When you say pop - do they look like windows messages or are they browser pop ups?
If it's the former, then you'll need to turn off the messenger service a spreviously mentioned.
-TT
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Dave Toz
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:23:00 -
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If it is the windows mesanger (not MSN) then it can be removed on w2k as follows (otehr OS will be similar i should think)
go to
Control Panel\administrative Tools\Servises
In here you will find a servise called Messanger, stop this servise, also right click and go to its properties and disable the servise(will stop it autostarting on boot up).
I found this fix when my mother kepted geting spammed off some1 called Janita wanting to show off her bod  .
Firewalls normally block this i think, maybe you allowed something access to the net that uses the same port thus allowing messanger to spread the love.
Not 100% on the firewall stuff, my knowledge of them is a little basic
Dave
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Black Lotus
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:24:00 -
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Edited by: Black Lotus on 15/04/2004 08:26:19
If its the windows messages one, all u need to do is block that file i mentioned. I think it is imbedded in messenger when u DL it. Ive seen it plague many systems, but easily fixed.
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:27:00 -
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i seem to be having this problem to , have norton internet security for my firewall
"Long Live the Fighters!"
"The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:31:00 -
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Wow guys, thanks for all the help!
I'll have a little tinker tonight following your suggestions.
Many thanks again!
Miso x
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:33:00 -
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When you say pop - do they look like windows messages or are they browser pop ups?
If it's the former, then you'll need to turn off the messenger service a spreviously mentioned.
They look like windows messages - grey box pop-ups about half screen size.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:34:00 -
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Defo sounds like msn messenger spam.
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Harcole
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Posted - 2004.04.15 08:47:00 -
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Windows XP Service Pack 2 turns Messenger off by default. You could download that other wise... stop teh Messenger service as siad above (note it is messenger and not msnmsg or what ever MSN Messenger runs as)
Josh,
Its not actually anything to do with MSN but was a thing put there by the wonderfull Micro$haft people and it got turned into a weapon of spam
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.04.15 09:01:00 -
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Windows XP Service Pack 2 turns Messenger off by default. You could download that other wise... stop teh Messenger service as siad above (note it is messenger and not msnmsg or what ever MSN Messenger runs as)
Josh,
Its not actually anything to do with MSN but was a thing put there by the wonderfull Micro$haft people and it got turned into a weapon of spam
Yeah I have downloaded service pack 2 so I'm not sure what is going on. I'll have a little fiddle with it tonight and see what gives.
Thanks
Miso x
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Scuzzer
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Posted - 2004.04.15 09:03:00 -
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Sounds like implanted cookies from the "Goat Pron" sites to me
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.04.15 09:05:00 -
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Sounds like implanted cookies from the "Goat Pron" sites to me
You did that too then?
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Scuzzer
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Posted - 2004.04.15 09:07:00 -
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Wheres me coat
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Dave Toz
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Posted - 2004.04.15 09:38:00 -
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oh dear,
horrible thoughts occur to me as to why my MOTHER would have been getting these pop ups!!
scary thoughts
Dave
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.04.15 09:51:00 -
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If there is an explorer popups you can do with adaware you can download at www.lavasoft.de
If you get application like popups then this is a virus one of my relatives once had, using a firewall is not enough in that case and you will have to use a virusscanner. I can give you the adres of an online virusscanner which is:
www.housecall.nl
then goto scan nu
a java applet starts and you have to select the drives
select autoclean to remove the virusses
press scan to start
If you cant remove a virus you need a more advanced scanner that is uptodate.
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meowcat
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: meowcat on 15/04/2004 10:48:57
Edited by: meowcat on 15/04/2004 10:45:30
The wierd thing here matey is that your popups are being triggered when you start the eve client
This is indicative of a worm, which is the only thing capable of adding it's own code to an existing executable file, and is triggered when you run the executable.
Programs like norton and mcafee are notoriously awful at stopping worms, and windows has had recent problems with RPC buffer vulnerabilities (which has allowed worms to get into lots of client win32 machines)
If you really want to be protected from this kak, you need a proper hardware firewall with SPI, and you need to never use Peer-2-peer software.
Anyway, to get rid of it, delete the eve executable and reinstall eve.
It's also advisable to reboot in safe mode and:
1-run a registry cleaner tool (eg JV16 Power Tools)
2-update your antivirus and run a full scan
3-run ad-aware
unfortunately worms are evil, and can put bits of code in the registry, infect system executables (used by windows) and even write data to your hard-disk master boot record... if you have one of these really nasty ones, the only way to clean your system would be a complete reformat.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: mahhy on 15/04/2004 11:28:19
Edited by: mahhy on 15/04/2004 11:26:53
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This is indicative of a worm, which is the only thing capable of adding it's own code to an existing executable file, and is triggered when you run the executable.
Actually the description of adding code to another piece of code is techincally a description of a Virus, not a Worm, which has a comepletely separate technical definition
Pointless technicalities aside, the steps to take are the usual:
1.) run an Anti-Virus program making sure you use the most up to date virus definition files.
2.) run Ad-Aware and/or similar "spamware/malware/spyware" killing programs with the most up to date definition files
3.) look for suspicious code/programs running in the windows task manager (usually only for the more technically inclined)
4.) check the programs that are starting on Windows boot, usually by looking in the Registry (again, more for a technically inclined person)
Finally, its sometimes worthwhile to re-install any anti-virus software and such and try the scan again. Theres been the occasional report of malware/spyware and such purposely modifying/disabling AV and Ad-Aware-type programs. They seem to work fine, but never report any problems. This is usually reserved for the seriously paranoid, and the "normal" steps listed above succeed in cleaning things up 99.99% of the time.
Final step, after the problem seems to be fixed and gone, make sure to update Windows/Internet Explorer using WindowsUpdate. In fact, personally I recommend you ditch Internet Explorer and go install Mozilla/Opera, which don't have nearly as many bugs/security holes as IE. If you can stop using Outlook Express/Outlook as well and switch to another email client, thats also a very good move. Outlook is right up there with (if not worse than) IE for bugs/security holes. If you don't use IE or Outlook you're probably 50% more secure than Windows based systems that do
Last resort if you simply cannot get rid of these things is to re-install the system from scratch. Once thats done, before you install/run anything, bring the system completely up to date with WindowsUpdate, then install AV and Ad-Aware and go from there. But doing this sucks really bad 
Cheers
edits for spelling!
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:41:00 -
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Thanks for all the advice.
I think I am going to go for a full system re-install - hassle though it is, I think its the best option for me.
Miso x
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Adriana
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:54:00 -
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Not sure what isp service you use, but if it's a cable modem make sure you use a router as well. Thats saved me a lot of headaches. They can't get to what they can't see nearly as easily.
Beyond that I use norton AV, adaware 6, and an internet eraser program to clean out the cookies.
Not a technophile, but those seem to handle most problems.
Question about mozilla though, is it as easy to use as IE? and if so does it limit my access to sites? (again, not a technophile)
And what other email options would you recommend? I use outlook 2003 and get so many junk emails. Slowly getting them handled though. Love the add to blocked senders feature.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:22:00 -
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I have no idea why people use McAfee or Norton!!
I use BitDefender Pro and I liked it so much I actually bought it instead of downloading a hacked version 
It includes a simple but effective firewall too.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: Sassinak on 15/04/2004 12:35:48
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i seem to be having this problem to, have norton internet security for my firewall
I think thats your problem "norton internet security" (LOL)
I dont find that a good firewall at all neither the mcafee one.
I have found some success with a little free one from sygate. The best one ive used so far is Smoothwall but that requires a dedicated pc and needs a little more setting up than the others.
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Question about mozilla though, is it as easy to use as IE
Yes Mozilla is like the old Netscape browser and is very straightfoward to use, you may find SOME problems with certain flash sites, thats about it. Mozilla is one of the main browsers used in the gnome desktop in linux.
Sass
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Zen Jakkaru
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:36:00 -
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go to
Control Panel\administrative Tools\Servises
In here you will find a servise called Messanger, stop this servise, also right click and go to its properties and disable the servise(will stop it autostarting on boot up)
If its grey message box pop-ups your getting then this is the solution.I disabled my 'services' ( ) last december and havn't had one pop-up since. 
Har-de-fraggin'-har-har!
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2004.04.15 13:03:00 -
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Quote:
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When you say pop - do they look like windows messages or are they browser pop ups?
If it's the former, then you'll need to turn off the messenger service a spreviously mentioned.
They look like windows messages - grey box pop-ups about half screen size.
they look like the "net send" messages, i fixed that by turning off the messenger service (nothing to do with msn)
i hope this will help you ;)
> Control Panel (switch to classic display if you have win xp)
> Administration Instruments (well something like that my win isn't in english ^^)
> Services
> Messenger > Properties (in the services list)
then stop the service in the properties window, and turn it in manual mode.
Good Luck !
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Varia
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Posted - 2004.04.15 13:14:00 -
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Ad aware is good, but also take a look at spybot (freeware, http://www.safer-networking.org/).
use together and they find what each other missed.
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Harcole
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Posted - 2004.04.15 13:51:00 -
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is it me or is it because I just returned from the pub but is this thread going round in circles?
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Barfolemew
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Posted - 2004.04.15 14:48:00 -
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I use these programs alot:
 Spybot S&D ( http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=home , better than Ad-aware ) Make sure that you update the program.
System Mechanic: ( http://www.iolo.com/ , clearing out old stuff from the disk/registry )
If you dont have a virus scanner use the web based virus scanner Housecall ( http://housecall.trendmicro.com )
Mozilla Firefox ( http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ , no popups here )
Barf
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