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LUH 3471	Posted - 2008.03.29 18:24:00 - [31] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 29/03/2008 18:26:54 my humble oppinion is that almost all problems can be easily solved by psychological revolution inside of each individual by people discovering their already inherent intelligence and wisdom which always is there just it is alittle bit covered due to the mental rollercoaster we are on its really like a small click inside the mind but itll have huge effects outside which cant be messuared with the infant intellect of ours mind > matter history on close observance shows this aswell this not just for britain in itself but whole world all continents all times how can we anyway say this is british or this is that or this i mean if one looks at the global companies operating and the flow of money .... cant see borders on the map so clear anymore my vision is so blured
Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2008.03.29 18:29:00 - [32] Originally by: Kirjava Its thinking outside the box, but an Orbital Elevator would give Britain a monopoly over Space travel and exploitation of its resources. Please explain how you intend to maintain a geosynchronous orbit for the space-based end of it when the bottom end is tethered to Britain, a considerable distance north of the equator? Do we have a colony somewhere that you propose using? My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Shanzem	Posted - 2008.03.29 18:30:00 - [33] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Originally by: Kirjava Its thinking outside the box, but an Orbital Elevator would give Britain a monopoly over Space travel and exploitation of its resources. Please explain how you intend to maintain a geosynchronous orbit for the space-based end of it when the bottom end is tethered to Britain, a considerable distance north of the equator? Do we have a colony somewhere that you propose using? re read his post he mentions were he is going to put it. ------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Kirjava	Posted - 2008.03.29 18:32:00 - [34] Originally by: Shanzem Wasn't this proposed by a small American company, any who do not expect much from British science, it tries but again the currently ruling generation ruins everything for the bright among them with interests in this area. good idea its a damn good idea, are you at work and do you have msn or anything like that i would like to talk about this more. Secondly what education you looking at? degree or master? Dosen't matter who proposed it or who completes it, its who actualy does it. Everyone knows America got to the Moon first - they used the cream of **** Germanies intelect to build the rockets but its down as an American achievement. If Britian builds the Orbital Elevator first, it wont matter to history who came up with the idea. Looking at a Masters Degree in Civil Enginearing, 5 year course but bring it on Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Shanzem	Posted - 2008.03.29 18:34:00 - [35] Edited by: Shanzem on 29/03/2008 18:34:49 Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Shanzem Britain already ****** yeah there, with there banning of space travel the sooner the current ruling generation are removed the better. Agreed. Imagine what a feather in our cap it would be if we beat the Americans to Mars. This would increase public interest and investment in the new developing sector. With regrds to the Elevators construction it is quite simple, we buy a few of the larger Russian Rockets and lift the payloads into orbit then unravel the Seed tether keeping the center of gravity at GSO. Anchor it on Ascention island and Bobs your uncle, attach elevator cars with more tether and lift it up, keep repeating till you can have trains that can carry heavy freight to orbit and voila, you have an extension of the conventional train and merchant shipping network that takes you to high orbit. What we realy need is investment in materials science research to get Carbon nano-tubes strong enough to support the strain. Btw Kirjava Do not let the people around you put you down, your adults or peers, this is why we have to teach entrepreneurial skills in Britishs school, its because of projects like these that America gets all the glory. i am a British inventor, if you need an help let me know. ------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.03.29 18:38:00 - [36] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Please explain how you intend to maintain a geosynchronous orbit for the space-based end of it when the bottom end is tethered to Britain, a considerable distance north of the equator? Do we have a colony somewhere that you propose using? As I said earlier, Ascention island , currently used as a British airbase and emergancy landing runway for the Shuttle. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Keorythe	Posted - 2008.03.29 18:49:00 - [37] Originally by: Kirjava Edited by: Kirjava on 29/03/2008 16:13:57 I say it every time this comes up - I am 17 and I support mandatory national service in the military, police ect. I know that means I would be conscripted, and I think its needed in Britain, a lot of these people just don't respect the system we have. It puts it into perspective I would wager, being on the field in the military what things are like at home and how they are taking too much for granted. Can anyone in the military confirm or deny this for me please, wouldn't want to preach what I haven't experienced. Conscription is neither useful nor going to instill a new perspective. There are some who will come away from it with a better sense of discipline and national pride. However, for most its like a prison sentence that they just have to wait out. Take a look at the countries that do have conscription. Many of their ex-conscripts will tell you straight up that they didn't learn anything useful during their time (fun shooting the guns but nothing else). On top of that take a look at the difference between the conscripts and the regular army. The conscripts are nothing better than cannon-fodder compared to that nation's career soldiers. There is a reason many aren't allowed to load live ammo in their weapons while on guard duty (I lolz when I saw empty magazine wells). There are alot of nations that mandate conscription and you probably know a few in your own corp. Try asking them about it.
Captain Hudson	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:13:00 - [38] Edited by: Captain Hudson on 29/03/2008 19:15:12 impliment islamic law on young people, that will stop them. Having said that iv never seen a fight on a bus/street(unless its outside a bar club then yes!). The youth crime topic is a hot one for british media atm because the gangs have started killing each other. Give the police more freedom and powers tbh, some zero tolorence like new york had would work wonders in the uk. The Real Eve FanFest
Shanzem	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:17:00 - [39] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Please explain how you intend to maintain a geosynchronous orbit for the space-based end of it when the bottom end is tethered to Britain, a considerable distance north of the equator? Do we have a colony somewhere that you propose using? As I said earlier, Ascention island , currently used as a British airbase and emergancy landing runway for the Shuttle. Science in england The sooner we have a geek or geek friendly person within power this country is going no were fast ------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Raktar Medovski Omen Incorporated Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:28:00 - [40] Maybe the government in the UK should rehabilitate the teenagers by giving them medicine and showing them videos and forcing their eyes open while showing them these videos.
LUH 3471 Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:33:00 - [41] Originally by: Raktar Medovski Maybe the government in the UK should rehabilitate the teenagers by giving them medicine and showing them videos and forcing their eyes open while showing them these videos. you sir win this thread !
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:34:00 - [42] Originally by: Raktar Medovski Maybe the government in the UK should rehabilitate the teenagers by giving them medicine and showing them videos and forcing their eyes open while showing them these videos. lmao -------------------------------------------
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:38:00 - [43] Originally by: Keoryth stuff Thanks for clearing that up. Works for some and not for others, so the part of the problem must be the upbringing which brings into question the competence of British parenting social services and eduction system...... damn it gets more complicated.... Originally by: Shanzem Btw Kirjava Do not let the people around you put you down, your adults or peers, this is why we have to teach entrepreneurial skills in Britishs schools, its because of projects like these that America gets all the glory. i am a British inventor, if you need an help let me know. Chears, sent my msn to your evemail btw. A geek in power would indeed be beneficial. Economists currently runt he country and to be fair economists work based on hard numbers in front of them and not the best people to work with technology..... Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:44:00 - [44] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Keoryth stuff Thanks for clearing that up. Works for some and not for others, so the part of the problem must be the upbringing which brings into question the competence of British parenting social services and eduction system...... damn it gets more complicated.... Originally by: Shanzem Btw Kirjava Do not let the people around you put you down, your adults or peers, this is why we have to teach entrepreneurial skills in Britishs schools, its because of projects like these that America gets all the glory. i am a British inventor, if you need an help let me know. Chears, sent my msn to your evemail btw. A geek in power would indeed be beneficial. Economists currently runt he country and to be fair economists work based on hard numbers in front of them and not the best people to work with technology..... Agreed, and thanks i will log in and add you know. there more geeks rallying for a cause the better, only have to look at anonymous to understand what i mean. -------------------------------------------
MAXSuicide Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:48:00 - [45] wow, TIME did this? they have fallen far...
Shanzem	Posted - 2008.03.29 19:49:00 - [46] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Keoryth stuff Thanks for clearing that up. Works for some and not for others, so the part of the problem must be the upbringing which brings into question the competence of British parenting social services and eduction system...... damn it gets more complicated.... Originally by: Shanzem Btw Kirjava Do not let the people around you put you down, your adults or peers, this is why we have to teach entrepreneurial skills in Britishs schools, its because of projects like these that America gets all the glory. i am a British inventor, if you need an help let me know. Chears, sent my msn to your evemail btw. A geek in power would indeed be beneficial. Economists currently runt he country and to be fair economists work based on hard numbers in front of them and not the best people to work with technology..... To be quite honest no matter what is said or done now, nothing is going to fix it period, there pretty much a lost cause, give up on them and let them get on with it, buckle down and study, ------------------------------------------- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Yosarian Manth	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:13:00 - [47] "3. Discussions about politics and religion not allowed, there are other websites with forums for these topics." Does this not apply anymore?
Kazuo Ishiguro	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:22:00 - [48] Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Please explain how you intend to maintain a geosynchronous orbit for the space-based end of it when the bottom end is tethered to Britain, a considerable distance north of the equator? Do we have a colony somewhere that you propose using? As I said earlier, Ascention island , currently used as a British airbase and emergancy landing runway for the Shuttle. That's still one of the most remote places on the planet, by any measure. I suppose you've got to start somewhere, but I'm sure there are better locations. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Kirjava Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:57:00 - [49] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Originally by: Kirjava Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Please explain how you intend to maintain a geosynchronous orbit for the space-based end of it when the bottom end is tethered to Britain, a considerable distance north of the equator? Do we have a colony somewhere that you propose using? As I said earlier, Ascention island , currently used as a British airbase and emergancy landing runway for the Shuttle. That's still one of the most remote places on the planet, by any measure. I suppose you've got to start somewhere, but I'm sure there are better locations. It is remote, but it is still technicaly closer than French Guinea to Europe. We do trade with America accross the Atlantic largely by freighter, so it works by having a port on the island. If for air travel there would have to be different arangements, using 9/11 as the prime example an air exclusion zone would have to be maintained around the island for security reasons. Maybe that traain tunnel idea I mentioned a while ago from St Helana airport to Ascention would work. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.03.29 20:59:00 - [50] Cleaned Removed political comments. I read elsewhere on OOPE that there's overzealous moderation of this forum. The no politics rule has been there for years, yet people insist on posting political threads and posts. We do our best to keep threads open but some people seem intent on inflicting their political views on others. Mitnal, Community Representative EVE Online CCP Games Email/Netfang

Sereifex Daku	Posted - 2008.03.29 21:08:00 - [51] Originally by: CCP Mitnal Cleaned Removed political comments. I read elsewhere on OOPE that there's overzealous moderation of this forum. The no politics rule has been there for years, yet people insist on posting political threads and posts. We do our best to keep threads open but some people seem intent on inflicting their political views on others. My right wing rantings! ....Well I hope you're proud of yourself!
Cmdr Sy	Posted - 2008.03.29 21:23:00 - [52] Note to self - do not quote other people. EVE CCG Trinity Booster
Arron S	Posted - 2008.03.29 21:34:00 - [53] I herd from Corp mates that ispwhich is prity bad I blame the Parents for **ty Discipline or being to *** to discipline their kids. Alot of kids here in Canada are getting like that Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Patch86	Posted - 2008.03.29 21:43:00 - [54] Originally by: Kirjava In Britian if someone breaks into your house and gets hurt - they can then sue YOU whose house it is. Completly mad and a Brit will be the first person to point that out by the way. People have been done for Assault here for hitting or restraining kids while vandalising stuff. Proof or it didn't happen, tbh. British law is crystal clear on self-defence: Originally by: Beckford v R (1988) A defendant is entitled to use reasonable force to protect himself, others for whom he is responsible and his property. It must be reasonable. In which "reasonable force" is defined by a jury of peers. In other words, if a collection of people from the community think it sounds like you acted reasonably, you can basically have done what you liked. As for the case of Tony Martin (that farmer you mentioned)...he was a mentally ill man who shot an unarmed 16 year old burglar in the back with an illegal shotgun as he was trying to run away (also managing to shoot his accomplice in the leg). The law is quite clear- killing someone with a shotgun is not "reasonable force" when someone is unarmed and attempting to run away from you. The fact it was an illegal gun can't have helped- that gets you a mandatory 5 year sentence on its own, killing people or not. His crime was downsized to manslaughter based on his mental state, but parole was refused on the basis that he was a dangerously violent xenophobe (the Parole Board's opinion, not mine). He was released after the minimum sentence of 3 years (with good behaviour). I fail to see how he's a good example of "poor victims punished by law". He's been held up by the tabloids as a good centre for rabble-rousing headlines. But in terms of actual law, it's a clean cut case. ------ Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Barren QelThyr	Posted - 2008.03.29 22:03:00 - [55] Although I cant find any cases of the Burglar winning, I am sure I could if I looked for any length of time. Unfortunatly I cant seem to find any cases from a reputable source, so mayhaps it hasnt happened, but I seriosly doubt it. Also, the accomplise of the man who was killed by Tony Martin has attempted to sue him for shooting him in the leg and causing grevious harm. Although I am not sure that that case can be used for any form of evidence. Mr. Martin was diagnosed with mental health problems if I remember right.
Patch86	Posted - 2008.03.29 22:18:00 - [56] Edited by: Patch86 on 29/03/2008 22:18:06 Originally by: Barren QelThyr Also, the accomplise of the man who was killed by Tony Martin has attempted to sue him for shooting him in the leg and causing grevious harm. Although I am not sure that that case can be used for any form of evidence. You're entirely right, he did. And failed. The court threw out the case on grounds that it was ridiculous. Despite what The Sun claims, British law isn't nearly as corrupt or unjust as is made out. It has it's flaws sure, but by and large if you think something sounds preposterous, it's probably bull**. ------ Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Originally by:** Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Kirjava	Posted - 2008.03.29 22:20:00 - [57] Originally by: Patch86 Edited by: Patch86 on 29/03/2008 22:18:06 Originally by: Barren QelThyr Also, the accomplise of the man who was killed by Tony Martin has attempted to sue him for shooting him in the leg and causing grevious harm. Although I am not sure that that case can be used for any form of evidence. You're entirely right, he did. And failed. The court threw out the case on grounds that it was ridiculous. Despite what The Sun claims, British law isn't nearly as corrupt or unjust as is made out. It has it's flaws sure, but by and large if you think something sounds preposterous, it's probably bull****. This sounds suspiciously correct and I would rather this be true as opposed to what I have been told/read. Sound smore logical so I herby apologise for the earlier statement Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007.
Thorliaron	Posted - 2008.03.29 23:00:00 - [58] Tony martin is a hero
Cmdr Sy Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2008.03.29 23:08:00 - [59] Whose papers were not in order. EVE CCG Trinity Booster
Thicky McThick Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.03.29 23:13:00 - [60] The modern british teenager, is something you see when you don't have a gun. How I wish it was true the other way round, when they see me. Middle class, can't be happening here, it's not my kid attitudes and not dealing with the YOB deprived gang culture that exists, is far more important than all the spoon fed, we should be worried about "this triffle" government spin. Post with your Alt and not your Main, 'cos I don't care about your Name.

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