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Andre Marconius	Posted - 2008.03.31 13:19:00 - [61] I am staying until I have podded SK Rooster and Bolom (I'll probably be here for a looong time then )
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.03.31 13:44:00 - [62] No other decent game on the market at the moment. Still hoping either AoC or DF will be good.
Lubomir Penev interimo	Posted - 2008.03.31 13:52:00 - [63] For EvE unique feature : Possibility of making grown mens cry over pixels. That's just priceless. -- Heat, easy to burn your mods by mistake, hard to get it to work when you need it the most. Well designed interface CCP!
agent apple Spartan Industries Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.03.31 14:02:00 - [64] Lack of alternatives, though this year that changes. Is going to be interesting to watch the outcome.
Commander Shag No Trademark Notoriety Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.31 14:04:00 - [65] Originally by: Andre Marconius I am staying until I have podded SK Rooster and Bolom (I'll probably be here for a looong time then ) I'll tell SK and Bolom you said hi I play for the rush of PVP mostly, but I like the fact that there's so many things to do; I can always find something that I'm in the mood for.
Rook Highwind	Posted - 2008.03.31 14:21:00 - [66] Because it's the only place where 'arms dealer', 'druglord', and 'respected pillar of the community' aren't mutually exclusive career choices A little more seriously, I stick around 'cause I know it's one of the few MMOs where I'll reach an established endpoint after having put in massive amounts of time, effort, and money, sit back and think "Well, that was bloody pointless.". Also one of the few MMOs I'll probably ever even like. ______________________________________ ~Newbing up the place since 6/12/2007~
Demtalin le'Mercennaire	Posted - 2008.03.31 15:21:00 - [67] Edited by: Demtalin le''Mercennaire on 31/03/2008 15:21:45 Depth, Player Controled market and space, almost everything influenced by players, in game politics, skill trains while offline and over time so it doesn't matter if I don't have time to chop trees down all day. And loosing something means you really do loose it. And who doesn't like seeing big ships make big explosions. -------- Billy Jean is not my lover
Snoon	Posted - 2008.03.31 15:37:00 - [68] I think im one of the few? people that would play EVE if it wasnt really an MMO. The reason its simply the most atmospheric space game out there, and is the only game that resembles Elite from back in the day. If Elite IV ever arrives i will probably leave
James Lyrus	Posted - 2008.03.31 16:31:00 - [69] EVE is a game all about freedom. It's the freedom to choose what I do, the freedom to be good, or horrible, as I feel like. It's about the ability to build stuff, empires, corporations, alliances, outposts, supercapitals. It's about the ability to destroy the same, in a meaningful fashion. It's about 3 newbies in frigates, killing a battleship. It's about remembering that first person who ganked you, and going for some payback. It's about how everyone is in the same universe. My name is unique, what I do is unique, and your reputation and it's consequences are far reaching. It's about a real time skill system, which means you don't lose ground if you're not following the optimal grind and logging on 24 hours a day. It's about the long term politics, and territorial control - who owns what region, who's contesting it, and who's on the bandwagon for freeloading. It's about how morale, and gangs and logistics of resupply of ships, ammo and mods really matters in a conflict. It's about the pain when your new and expensive ship explodes. I started playing because I loved Elite. I keep playing because the freedom is unparalleled. So many games tell you what you 'should' be doing - leveling up, going and raiding somewhere, or battling for honour. EVE doesn't. There's some stuff to play with, and a whole bunch of evil conniving backstabbers who might betray you, gank you, or ruin your day. It's the fact that room exists to be as horrible as you can, that makes the friendships that you gain from working together so truly priceless and precious. Good and Evil are nothing if they're a flag on your character sheet, or NPCs make you do it. Politics is nothing if it's just RP, and next week nothing will have changed. I play EVE because there's literally nothing else like it. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking?
Phil Exon	Posted - 2008.03.31 16:52:00 - [70] I mostly enjoy paying for paralizing lag and bugged game mechanics
Setana Manoro	Posted - 2008.03.31 17:17:00 - [71] Originally by: Judge Ment I'm not going to talk smack against the game I like. But here are some of the reasons why I like EVE. Allows me and the wife to spend time together in game. Not much different from sitting down and play card game! I Have made good friends all over the world, Even some close to my own homelands. Biggest one "Child hood dream" - of what hollywood has created in my head. Fly the big ships Being a Adult: Game give me time to be the father I am. Without sitting at the computer all day. While training my account These are just some of the reason why I play the game. TBH I have way more reason why I could leave this game. But I think the good ideas keep me here 2yrs ago it was 'because eve is the best mmorpg'. 1yr ago it was 'i trust ccp to be a very good company, that will fix eve'. Today, I play EVE mixture of hope and lazyness to try another mmorpg; having some good friends to talk with also is great but i can do that on YM too so i don't treat EVE like IRC with good graphics. So this would be the way that my perception of this game and company has changed. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Barbelo Valentinian	Posted - 2008.03.31 17:51:00 - [72] Originally by: Zeba I call bull***. Only the strong survive here. The weak come and cry on the forums looking for someone else to solve their problems for them instead of using thier God given grey matter to figure it out by themself. "Only the strong survive" my golden shiney ass. It's this simple: most games reject griefers and institute mechanisms to reject them - either the devs outlaw them or they allow players to prevent griefing themselves. But CCP has recognised that kind of juvenile gameplay as a largely untapped market and has instituted mechanisms by which griefers have a special home in this MMO. IOW, Griefers and gankbears are the most protected players in EVE,* much more so than carebears; without CCP's protection, in a truly Darwinian game world, that playstyle would long ago have disappeared or been minimised, because the majority of mature players hate that playstyle, because it breaks immersion (it brings one back to the real world with a jolt too much - you realise the griefer is some spotty ***head sitting at a computer instead of another immortal pod pilot). Meanwhile griefers and gankbears get to think they're being all big and brave and "Darwinian". What a bunch of chumps! Basically, they're just part of the mechanism by which CCP adds a bit more timesink to the game. I can tell you right now what the vast majority of players of EVE would prefer: they'd prefer a dangerous universe in which people took their roleplaying a bit more seriously and did proper, "duelling" style PvP more, in a more mature way. Always a risk of loss? Yes. Loss really hurting? Yes. Suicide ganking possible? Yes. All that. But an atmosphere of 12 year old schoolyard bullies? No. Not because of losing stuff or crying or "tears" or any of that bull**, but because of the break in immersion. If it was up to the vast majority of mature players in EVE, and the EVE Universe were truly* Darwinian, there would be no possibility of griefers and such even getting out of their stations. But the vast majority of players of EVE won't get their way, because this isn't truly a player-run game world, it's a gameworld in which certain kinds of playstyle are protected to maximise CCP's revenue stream from those kinds of playstyle, which happen to be playstyles that most players hate, and other MMOs outlaw, but CCP encourages. There's your "Darwinian" truth. ***** "To wake up is to wake the world up" - D.E. Harding
Minerva Vulcan The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.03.31 18:08:00 - [73] I have nowhere else to go. :\
Jenny Spitfire LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.03.31 18:10:00 - [74] Gut gaem. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Judge Ment	Posted - 2008.03.31 19:00:00 - [75] Originally by: Barbelo Valentinian Originally by: Zeba I call bull***. Only the strong survive here. The weak come and cry on the forums looking for someone else to solve their problems for them instead of using thier God given grey matter to figure it out by themself. Interesting "Could you please elaborate more" EVE has many types of players. But you seem to think there are two types of people. Trust me GOD Is pretty absent in this matter. Unless your using this statement as God Given right to figure it out for them selfs!* Could you explain in your words who the strong are in EVE. Then explain in your words who the weak are. Then explain to me why people think EVE revolves around them and their ideas!
astowv	Posted - 2008.03.31 22:19:00 - [76] Originally by: Cipher7 1) Sandbox 2) No "end game" 3) Feels Epic like a space opera 4) NPC's have minimal role in the universe 5) Ridiculously bright, creative community 6) Skill training is offline 7) Player controlled market 8) Player controlled space 9) Everybody together in 1 universe, feels like I know some of you *10) The devs are not pussies* 9 out of 10 is not bad. ---- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Red Dutchess Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.03.31 22:31:00 - [77] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Lord Haur Originally by: Linn Zypher Just cancelled my 6 accounts. Eve is too much of a time sink. And CCP are a bunch of hypocrits anyway. stuff pls Maybe he has a spare sarcasm detector I. I have a BPO for a sarcasm detector II if anyone wants it? Yours for 1,000,000,000,000,000 isk
Red Dutchess Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.03.31 22:33:00 - [78] Originally by: Setana Manoro Originally by: Judge Ment I'm not going to talk smack against the game I like. But here are some of the reasons why I like EVE. Allows me and the wife to spend time together in game. Not much different from sitting down and play card game! I Have made good friends all over the world, Even some close to my own homelands. Biggest one "Child hood dream" - of what hollywood has created in my head. Fly the big ships Being a Adult: Game give me time to be the father I am. Without sitting at the computer all day. While training my account These are just some of the reason why I play the game. TBH I have way more reason why I could leave this game. But I think the good ideas keep me here 2yrs ago it was 'because eve is the best mmorpg'. 1yr ago it was 'i trust ccp to be a very good company, that will fix eve'. Today, I play EVE mixture of hope and lazyness to try another mmorpg; having some good friends to talk with also is great but i can do that on YM too so i don't treat EVE like IRC with good graphics. So this would be the way that my perception of this game and company has changed. See "Second Life", "Linden Labs" and "Philip Rosedale"
Lord Rue GenX Societies Inc. Rejuvenate	Posted - 2008.03.31 22:57:00 - [79] Offline skills +++ An environment of of dangerous reality. Even in empire, death like in RL is unlikely but possible. Elite-style sandbox environment. Be a trader, merc or pirate. (bounty hunter, not so much) I just wish you could have combat ratings ala Elite. Mostly Harmless, eh? And of course: Only Internet Spaceships game choice around. ;) I'd consider another more modern one, but only if it had the same element of PVP risk and open sandbox play. Devil bunnies! I snort the nose! Lucifer! Banana!
Lurana Lay	Posted - 2008.04.01 04:17:00 - [80] Originally by: Malachon Draco No other decent (space) game market at the moment. That's about it for me. Soon as one comes out that has even the slightest bit of transparency, a professional customer service, and real and effective Dev/GM/ISD oversight...oh and no ALTS then I am gone, with a smile even.
Jade190 School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.01 04:31:00 - [81] I play eve out of habit.... nothing more. ------ Fighting stupidity since before you were stupid.
Drizit FREEDOM FIRST Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.01 05:53:00 - [82] Originally by: Linn Zypher Just cancelled my 6 accounts. Eve is too much of a time sink. And CCP are a bunch of hypocrits anyway. Must... resist... saying... Can I have your stuff? DOH! -- Freighters need a tank
Shotar Aronia Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.01 08:23:00 - [83] I play Eve for a few reason. The friends I have made. The complexity of the game keeps me thinking. The beauty of the graphics. The feeling of real loss (either dealt or received) when an expensive ship that took hours to acquire is destroyed.
Liam Fremen Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2008.04.01 09:10:00 - [84] Playing from more then 4 years, for these reasons: 1) Every mmorpg i check, try, look at seems like playing pong after playing eve. 2) The fun of the pvp: Only in eve there is so much adrenaline and risk. 3) The fact i have a crapload of friend from my same country (inside the corp i made grow and the alliance i founded) that makes me enjoy the game :) _________________________________________________
Chaosgabe TWC Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.04.01 10:04:00 - [85] Originally by: Liam Fremen 1) Every mmorpg i check, try, look at seems like playing pong after playing eve. This. Thats the start and the end of the whole argument, you wont find any other mmo as deep and rich as EvE is.
Charcoal	Posted - 2008.04.01 10:08:00 - [86] Why do I stay in EVE? A fine question... not sure I can put my finger on a simple answer. Some of it certainly frustrates the hell out of me, that's for sure. Off the top of my head, jump clones and gang bonuses spring to mind as the things that have ***ed me off the most - jump clones because they made the world smaller, thus ruining that feeling of remoteness that I used to have when my main was in Vale Of The Silent and the escrow that I really* wanted was in Aridia, for example. Gang bonuses because they represented yet another kick in the teeth for people who like to fly solo from time to time, which really annoyed me for a while. I got over these things. I started my first character a few months after launch, but quit again shortly afterwards and didn't get back into it until mid 2004 (one of my few regrets about my time with the game). I think I stay in EVE because there's just so much that you can do with your time logged in... Over the years I've done the 0.0 Alliance thing - both with and without territory to defend and I've fought in innumerable Empire wars. I ran missions up to level 3 for all the factions, and then revisited it to do lvl 4s once they'd been introduced. I've done inter-region trading in haulers and, latterly, freighters, and have spent time playing regional markets while parked in a station. I've been a low sec belt pirate and have been part of a small pirate hunting gang doing the opposite. I've opportunistically looted the cans from battles that I've witnessed and have waded in to lend a hand if the fancy has taken me. And, oh, so much more. I currently have a character who's experimenting with production, and I'm scouting for a moon that I can park a POS at to deliver a small profit. There are still things that I haven't really done. I don't do gate camping, for example, since it bores me to tears - whether it's in low sec, in 0.0 or in Empire as part of a war. I don't mine, either, for the same reason. (Seriously, it fascinates me that so many people can dismiss the PvE side of the game as boring whilst participating in camps at the same time, but hey, it's a personal choice thing. ;) ) There's always something you can do in EVE, no matter how grim things get. I well recall being down to less than 1m isk after a few heavy losses. The only ship I had was the newly released Cormorant and, after racking my brain to think of a way to get back on my feet, I ended up spending a few weeks trading Zydrine around the regions of the South of EVE until I had enough isk to get going again. EVE isn't perfect, by a long shot. The endless whines on this forum about nanos, suicide ganking, loot or salvage 'theft' or whatever other issue of the day exists are there for a reason. There are still a lot of things I'd like to see changed, too, but I'm reasonably confident that the dev team are aware of them and will continue to tweak the game as and when they can. To my mind, then, EVE is the best that currently exists and the sheer variety of playstyles that it facilitates means that it's usually possible to avoid the problems if you're willing to adapt. I am, and that's probably why I'm still happy to stay.
Talio ZomB Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.01 10:58:00 - [87] Hello my name is Talio ZomB and I am an eveholic lol
Ankhesentapemkah	Posted - 2008.04.01 11:54:00 - [88] Good: Complex rulset Module tweaking Offline skilltraining Standings Shiny ships and stuff Reasonably mature players overall Bad: Griefers Repetetive missions General lack of solo highsec content Smacktalk --- Take Care is the CSM party for the free and independant players! Contact us and let us relay your ideas to CCP! Visit our Campaign Website
Tate Aoko Advanced Logistics Cosa Nostra.	Posted - 2008.04.01 12:55:00 - [89] Originally by: Lubomir Penev Possibility of making grown mens cry over pixels. I knew I wasn't alone sniff
Buxaroo	Posted - 2008.04.01 15:57:00 - [90] I like EVE Online for lots of reasons. Most are of the sandbox variant. PVP. In no other game is there anywhere near as much true PVP as in EVE. Everything we do is PVP-related, from the guys mining Veldspar in high sec to the hardcore killers in 0.0 politics like myself. We all take part of PVP wether we know it or not. Mostly adult community. This is not necessarily a jab at younger people, but EVE is filled with a LOT of older people. Out of all the corps and alliances I have been in, I can't remember any of them with anyone younger than 18. There are exceptions, but they are rare. This is not the type of game that kids generally get into. Takes too much time, too much effort, too much patience. And sad to say most kids nowadays don't have any patience or long term thinking or want to put much effort into anything. Space. Science Fiction. These two reasons are what initially attracted me to EVE and what will always attract me to any other MMO that comes out. I don't want ferries and dragons. I want hardcore sci-fi. Great game company. You have to admit that there just isn't that many companies that can compare to CCP. How many companies out there can you name that the devs actually talk to the players? How many devs in other companies actually listen to what people talk about? I have played quite a few MMO's in my day, not to mention other types of games, and CCP has the best attitude of any game company. To me this goes a long way. I can forgive lots of game problems if I know that the developers actually care about what they are doing and are actually trying to fix them, albiet not always perfectly. Sure there are lots of "CCP sucks, they can't fix lag!!1 WHAAH WHAAH!". But can you name another MMO where you can have 300+ slugging it out in one area and still be relatively playable? Get back to me when you can... Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

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