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Malcanis R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2008.03.31 10:32:00 - [31] Originally by: Celarnor It just seems like a really lame thing to do; I was dragged into this game by the prospect of epic fleet battles and sieges of POSs; where there are such things to be had, I just don't get why someone with a ship capable of doing such things wants to sit at the high-sec bottlenecks and pod people in shuttles. Because you'd be amazed how often people fly valuables through lo-sec in shuttles. And really, while you're on the gate waiting for a "real" fight, why not pop the shuttles and haulers that come through...? BTW there's a lot of fleet warfare and POS sieging going on, never fear. Once you've done some of it you'll understand more about why people pirate. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Lorna Loot Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.31 10:34:00 - [32] How the **** do you get caught in a frig by a bloody megathron??? Not even timmy would be that slow or stupid! Learn to warp??? Also I hear using eyes work aswell. 'I havent got the brainscells to think about asking my corp, instead ill post crap on the forums' generation of EvE players are crap pure and simple. --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.
Lorna Loot Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.31 10:37:00 - [33] Originally by: Ioci Warpcore stabs will work if you are trying to warp out. I heard there was a scramble that pretty much makes those useless now too but I can't confirm that. Hows that rock you've been living under? --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.
Ioci Ioci Exploration Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2008.03.31 10:38:00 - [34] Originally by: Lorna Loot Originally by: Ioci Warpcore stabs will work if you are trying to warp out. I heard there was a scramble that pretty much makes those useless now too but I can't confirm that. Hows that rock you've been living under? Flame value.. 1/10
Lorna Loot Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.31 10:44:00 - [35] Originally by: Ioci Originally by: Lorna Loot Originally by: Ioci Warpcore stabs will work if you are trying to warp out. I heard there was a scramble that pretty much makes those useless now too but I can't confirm that. Hows that rock you've been living under? Flame value.. 1/10 I'm sorry only an idiot doesnt know about hictors after all this time, maybe wallpapering a rock takes time but not even a mention of it from a corp mate or, since you seem to F5 enough not read all the whines about them? Not a flame, i just noticed your lack of knowledge. --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.
Sha4d13 State War Academy	Posted - 2008.03.31 10:46:00 - [36] TBH im struggling to see how you get caught in a shuttle. Especially by megatrhons! Yes- a HIC is nasty, but it still needs time to lock and a shuttle warps almost instantly. Just select your warp to whilst still cloaked- and click. 9 times out of 10 you should be fine, unless they have some very very serious fastlocking going on. The advice above about getting your pod out is foolproof if followed properly too. They shouldnt be able to get a lock before you warp.
Ioci Ioci Exploration Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2008.03.31 10:52:00 - [37] Originally by: Lorna Loot Originally by: Ioci Originally by: Lorna Loot Originally by: Ioci Warpcore stabs will work if you are trying to warp out. I heard there was a scramble that pretty much makes those useless now too but I can't confirm that. Hows that rock you've been living under? Flame value.. 1/10 I'm sorry only an idiot doesnt know about hictors after all this time, maybe wallpapering a rock takes time but not even a mention of it from a corp mate or, since you seem to F5 enough not read all the whines about them? Not a flame, i just noticed your lack of knowledge. To the OP, Point in fact. Rock, idiot. See? Itch, scratch, dig and squirm to get a rise out of you. This is a low sec rat. It's the element of Eve you deal with. Pat them on the head, smile and nod alot.
Lorna Loot Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.31 10:56:00 - [38] Originally by: Ioci To the OP, Point in fact. Rock, idiot. See? Itch, scratch, dig and squirm to get a rise out of you. This is a low sec rat. It's the element of Eve you deal with. Pat them on the head, smile and nod alot. I guess people dont like it when you show them they are stupid. Plus, dont pyrimid quote, ta. I suggest you go away and learn the mechanics of something properly before you try to give advice on it. --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.
Ioci Ioci Exploration Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2008.03.31 10:59:00 - [39] Originally by: Lorna Loot Originally by: Ioci To the OP, Point in fact. Rock, idiot. See? Itch, scratch, dig and squirm to get a rise out of you. This is a low sec rat. It's the element of Eve you deal with. Pat them on the head, smile and nod alot. I guess people dont like it when you show them they are stupid. Plus, dont pyrimid quote, ta. I suggest you go away and learn the mechanics of something properly before you try to give advice on it. Need a hug?
Lorna Loot Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Ioci Originally by: Lorna Loot Originally by: Ioci To the OP, Point in fact. Rock, idiot. See? Itch, scratch, dig and squirm to get a rise out of you. This is a low sec rat. It's the element of Eve you deal with. Pat them on the head, smile and nod alot. I guess people dont like it when you show them they are stupid. Plus, dont pyrimid quote, ta. I suggest you go away and learn the mechanics of something properly before you try to give advice on it. Need a hug? No thanks, im have a biccy though. --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.
Ioci	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:13:00 - [41] Originally by: Lorna Loot Originally by: Ioci Originally by: Lorna Loot Originally by: Ioci To the OP, Point in fact. Rock, idiot. See? Itch, scratch, dig and squirm to get a rise out of you. This is a low sec rat. It's the element of Eve you deal with. Pat them on the head, smile and nod alot. I guess people dont like it when you show them they are stupid. Plus, dont pyrimid quote, ta. I suggest you go away and learn the mechanics of something properly before you try to give advice on it. Need a hug? No thanks, im have a biccy though. Flame junky
Lorna Loot	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:27:00 - [42] Originally by: Ioci Flame junky Originally by: Ioci I heard there was a scramble that pretty much makes those useless now too but I can't confirm that. I fend the best strategy with determined gate campers is to jam it down thier throat. Make a new toon in that empire, set up clone at the closest base and just keep flying it in. It might require you do it for a few hrs. Some low sec rats are pretty slow but eventually they will get sick of farming alpha clone kill mails and go away. Internet Monkey --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.
Xioden Acap Lightspeed Enterprises Burning Horizons	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:46:00 - [43] At least one of the Heavy interdictors can be setup to lock almost instantly... Also as a little note, in the market settings there is an option to ignore orders in low-sec, use it =)
Daan Sai HAZCON Inc YTMND.	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Sha4d13 TBH im struggling to see how you get caught in a shuttle. Especially by megatrhons! Yes- a HIC is nasty, but it still needs time to lock and a shuttle warps almost instantly. Just select your warp to whilst still cloaked- and click. 9 times out of 10 you should be fine, unless they have some very very serious fastlocking going on. The advice above about getting your pod out is foolproof if followed properly too. They shouldnt be able to get a lock before you warp. I'd use lots of smartbombs - gets the pod too. Locking isn't needed. To me these type of lame bottleneck camps are the primary reason why lowsec is worse than not worth it for over 80% of the Eve player base.
Reem Fairchild Shadow Forces Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:50:00 - [45] Originally by: Celarnor Thanks. I'll got on that. Hopefully those two Megathorns will be elsewhere by the time I get back in mah Ibsi. >_> Wait, wait, wait... A meagathron was able to lock you before you could warp away in an Ibis? How is that even possible?
Lorna Loot Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:55:00 - [46] Originally by: Reem Fairchild Originally by: Celarnor Thanks. I'll got on that. Hopefully those two Megathorns will be elsewhere by the time I get back in mah Ibsi. >_> Wait, wait, wait... A meagathron was able to lock you before you could warp away in an Ibis? How is that even possible? Tis what i said --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.
Druadan Aristotle Enterprises Synchr0nicity	Posted - 2008.03.31 11:55:00 - [47] Originally by: Lord WarATron Also use Microwarp drive. For 2 reasons, you can align in 10 seconds max if oyu fire off 1 MWD burn. Also, if you jump in and see a camp, you can MWD back to gate. You might not survive, but it at least gives you a chance to make a run for it. MWDing back to the gate can work, but activating your MWD for warping out increases your align time because there's a mass addition which reduces your ability to accelerate. Additionally, an active MWD will allow ships to target you five times faster than usual. The only hope for using an MWD for a quick align is if you're in a super-heavy ship that will take so long to align that the one-burst MWD cycle will finish before the ship would have aligned without the MWD. When the max speed drops back to its original speed, you will be aligned and will warp out. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Lorna Loot Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:00:00 - [48] guys, guys, this is an ibis vs 2 megas, and ibis cant even fit a MWD. OP just needs to not sit at the gate afk long enough for the mega to lock it. --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.
Lord WarATron Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:01:00 - [49] Originally by: Druadan Originally by: Lord WarATron Also use Microwarp drive. For 2 reasons, you can align in 10 seconds max if oyu fire off 1 MWD burn. Also, if you jump in and see a camp, you can MWD back to gate. You might not survive, but it at least gives you a chance to make a run for it. MWDing back to the gate can work, but activating your MWD for warping out increases your align time because there's a mass addition which reduces your ability to accelerate. Additionally, an active MWD will allow ships to target you five times faster than usual. The only hope for using an MWD for a quick align is if you're in a super-heavy ship that will take so long to align that the one-burst MWD cycle will finish before the ship would have aligned without the MWD. When the max speed drops back to its original speed, you will be aligned and will warp out. If it takes longer than 10 seconds to align, you use MWD burst on any ship to align faster. If the enemy has catched upto you and is scrambling you and you are going down, then MWDing to the gate is the last option left. But yes, people need to know how to use MWD's and experience teaches that. Also, to the other guys, Sensor Boosters & Remote sensor boosters makes it possible to catch shuttles in a HIC. Not impossible, but very realistic. -- Billion Isk Mission
Ioci Ioci Exploration Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:05:00 - [50] Originally by: Druadan Originally by: Lord WarATron Also use Microwarp drive. For 2 reasons, you can align in 10 seconds max if oyu fire off 1 MWD burn. Also, if you jump in and see a camp, you can MWD back to gate. You might not survive, but it at least gives you a chance to make a run for it. MWDing back to the gate can work, but activating your MWD for warping out increases your align time because there's a mass addition which reduces your ability to accelerate. Additionally, an active MWD will allow ships to target you five times faster than usual. The only hope for using an MWD for a quick align is if you're in a super-heavy ship that will take so long to align that the one-burst MWD cycle will finish before the ship would have aligned without the MWD. When the max speed drops back to its original speed, you will be aligned and will warp out. Actually MWD as a gate tool are useless. They all web as well as scramble and you aren't going to get back to gate at 5% even in MWD. Cloak will work but you need to be able to do that. That has been my experience.
Granmethedon III	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:12:00 - [51] This thread is so full of fail. It's actually that bad, I can't even be arsed to troll it.
Darwin Duck	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:15:00 - [52] Originally by: Estel Arador Warp Core Stabilizers. Well there are only so many you can put on your **** and the gank gangs usually put way to many points on you for them to work, even with 3 of them, so I have to agree with the guy saying avoiding to be tackled in the first place.
Darwin Duck Ark Royals	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:19:00 - [53] Originally by: Ioci Originally by: Celarnor Originally by: Ioci Warpcore stabs will work if you are trying to warp out. I heard there was a scramble that pretty much makes those useless now too but I can't confirm that. Why would something so obviously unbalanced be introduced like that? Actually, the traveling character has the edge in gate camping right now. Between cloak and warp to 0 km it's very easy to evade gate camps. Some times there are mission pipes that get hit and nooblets are really in no position to combat them. That's where you apply the strat above. Not really, players adapt and take you when you come out of the gate instead of when you arrive at a gate like in the old 15km days. And they can lock you before you get control and when you are still "blury" so when you get control of the ship you are already scrabled and webbed, thats abit annoying.
Lord WarATron Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.31 12:27:00 - [54] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 31/03/2008 12:28:30 Originally by: Ioci Originally by: Druadan Originally by: Lord WarATron Also use Microwarp drive. For 2 reasons, you can align in 10 seconds max if oyu fire off 1 MWD burn. Also, if you jump in and see a camp, you can MWD back to gate. You might not survive, but it at least gives you a chance to make a run for it. MWDing back to the gate can work, but activating your MWD for warping out increases your align time because there's a mass addition which reduces your ability to accelerate. Additionally, an active MWD will allow ships to target you five times faster than usual. The only hope for using an MWD for a quick align is if you're in a super-heavy ship that will take so long to align that the one-burst MWD cycle will finish before the ship would have aligned without the MWD. When the max speed drops back to its original speed, you will be aligned and will warp out. Actually MWD as a gate tool are useless. They all web as well as scramble and you aren't going to get back to gate at 5% even in MWD. Cloak will work but you need to be able to do that. That has been my experience. Overheated MWD makes a difference from a 100% death chance and "not 100%" death chance. You can either sit and die, or do what you can to escape. I know people who have escaped simply because of a Overheated MWD where death was guarenteed. I once outran a tackler on my BS tanks to overheated MWD. Again, nothing is guarenteed, there is no "i am safe button" but MWD increases chances of survival, that is of no doubt. Also, not every Intercepter has enough slots to fit webs. -- Billion Isk Mission
Shintai	Posted - 2008.03.31 13:13:00 - [55] Just a short note on Stabs, anyone found it odd that a scrambler can have STR+2, but a Stab only 1? Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Celarnor	Posted - 2008.03.31 13:31:00 - [56] Originally by: Lorna Loot guys, guys, this is an ibis vs 2 megas, and ibis cant even fit a MWD. OP just needs to not sit at the gate afk long enough for the mega to lock it. I was there maybe 3 seconds before I started aligning for warp in the Ibis. I was almost all the way around when they warp-jammed me. In the shuttle, I sat in cloak for a few extra seconds in the hope that they'd go away, but lacking any other options, I tried to warp to the destination again, only again to get locked, destroyed, locked again, then podded. I wasn't AFK during any of this...being AFK while in this game seems like a terrible idea liable to get you quickly killed.
Barzam	Posted - 2008.03.31 13:35:00 - [57] Originally by: Shintai Just a short note on Stabs, anyone found it odd that a scrambler can have STR+2, but a Stab only 1? No, because a scrambler also has a 7km range. That's waay too close-range for any gatecamp. They will mostly use warp disruptors (-1 str) or focused warp disruption (-100 str)
Nicholas Barker	Posted - 2008.03.31 13:49:00 - [58] Originally by: Lord WarATron Also use Microwarp drive. For 2 reasons, you can align in 10 seconds max if oyu fire off 1 MWD burn. Also, if you jump in and see a camp, you can MWD back to gate. You might not survive, but it at least gives you a chance to make a run for it. only worth it if your ship takes more than 10 seconds to align without an mwd, otherwise you're just increasing your alignment time. --- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Havohej	Posted - 2008.03.31 14:00:00 - [59] Originally by: Celarnor What's the best way to not get owned by a warp scramble? I've been gatecamped and podkilled twice today, and it's starting to get on my nerves, as the ship I bought is in 0.4 space and I can't get to it because I keep getting killed. The camping is lame enough, but podkilling me after my ship is gone is just overkill and unnecessary. Go to another region where the ship you want can be found in highsec. When you buy something, if you don't know the sec status of the system it's in, right-click it, go through the menu to Location, and investigate the system BEFORE you click "Buy this". If you're buying capital ships, which CAN'T be bought in highsec, then you SHOULD be at the point where you already know how to get past a gate camp in lowsec (no bubble = no kills) and that would mean that this post is a troll. Adapt or it's Darwin's Law for you. http://tinyurl.com/385465 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.[/url] DFIAS is recruiting!
Lorna Loot	Posted - 2008.03.31 14:06:00 - [60] Originally by: Celarnor Originally by: Lorna Loot guys, guys, this is an ibis vs 2 megas, and ibis cant even fit a MWD. OP just needs to not sit at the gate afk long enough for the mega to lock it. I was there maybe 3 seconds before I started aligning for warp in the Ibis. I was almost all the way around when they warp-jammed me. In the shuttle, I sat in cloak for a few extra seconds in the hope that they'd go away, but lacking any other options, I tried to warp to the destination again, only again to get locked, destroyed, locked again, then podded. I wasn't AFK during any of this...being AFK while in this game seems like a terrible idea liable to get you quickly killed. Ok, now you are sure these are mega's? Mine will never lock a frigate or ibis, let alone an instawarping shuttle before it warps off. Shuttles are the ultimate ner ner you cant catch me ships in low sec, cheap and very effective. --------------------- Nox Eternus is Recruiting, contact me or Sgt Shazz ingame for info.

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