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gr7hug
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Posted - 2008.04.02 13:49:00 -
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I was thinking this morning - HACs and other t2 cruisers are a little bit dull.
My idea: add one new cruiser per race with very specialized features
I don't know if this should be TII or T1 but it would require a specialized skill:
[Insert Race] ship specialization (rank 8)
PreReqs: racial frig, cruiser, bs V
This would be like saying you have to be FULLY committed to flying that race before you can fly this ship, because these are super leet ships.
So I started thinking, what would these ships be like? First, they would have a unique hull design. Then near HAC specs, but maybe basic ships are a little weaker. Then the bonuses would apply to these ships from the Racial specialization skill.
Galiente:
Bonus to drone control, +1 drone per level of specialization skill
Minmmitar:
weaker tank than current HACS, specialization skill gives bonuses ot inerta and speed -> a ship designed for NANO type speeds (minnies are supposed to be fast)
Caldari: ??? EW ???
Amaar: ??? Armor???
What do you all think? What are your ideas for these type of ships? My other idea was to call them prototypes, have them have some UBER strongpoints with some major weaknesses too.
I have brought my T2 flamecoat which has 100% resists to all useless comments, so try to be constructive.
I am just thinking that each of these ships should have certain situations where they absolutely WTFPWN, but they should not be UBER in an unstoppable way.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:12:00 -
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I AGREE EVE NEEDS MORE UBER LEET SHIPS TBH IT SHOULD HAVE A DOOMSDAY WEPAON TOO AND A COFFEEMAKER AND LASERS AND REALLY GOOD SPEED AND A UNIQUE DESIGN AND A BLUE-RAY PLAYER.
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MyOwnSling
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:16:00 -
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BS5 for a cruiser will not fly, it makes no sense, especially not RP wise. Otherwise, all of your suggestions have already been implemented. Gallente already have ships with bonuses to drone control of one type or another (imicus, ishtar, guardian vexor). Minmatar already have a hac with a speed bonus (vaga). Caldari already have strong ewar ships (BB and T2 hulls). Amarr already have an armor related ship (damnation).
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Riho
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:16:00 -
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as a old player i have to say that this is a stupid idea to make a uber leet ship that only veterans can use.
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Spectre3353
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
I AGREE EVE NEEDS MORE UBER LEET SHIPS TBH IT SHOULD HAVE A DOOMSDAY WEPAON TOO AND A COFFEEMAKER AND LASERS AND REALLY GOOD SPEED AND A UNIQUE DESIGN AND A BLUE-RAY PLAYER.
YOU MEAN BLU-RAY LOL
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:25:00 -
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let them fix what there is now before thinking of adding new stuff (that includes DO NOT WANT ambulation)
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2008.04.02 14:25:00 -
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Not sure about the specifics of the op but I do kinda like the idea of racial benefits that you can only gain by training that race to a high degree. Whether it should manifest as new ships is debatable but imo worth looking at.
Cross training is great and everything but it does make your racial choice seem somewhat irrelevant. Right now its only the aesthetic & nostalgic aspects of your choice that actually mean anthing.
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Faife
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:03:00 -
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The OP idea is silly, but it'd be cool to have a "Minmatar Ship Specialization" that gives 5% to speed of all minnie ships, unlocked by having MinFrig, MinCruiser, and MinBS all at V. Something like that.
But not for the other races. That'd be stupid.
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Telal
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Posted - 2008.04.02 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
The OP idea is silly, but it'd be cool to have a "Minmatar Ship Specialization" that gives 5% to speed of all minnie ships, unlocked by having MinFrig, MinCruiser, and MinBS all at V. Something like that.
It would probably have to include racial capitals and industrials, etc.. as well to make sence. You wouldn't be "specialized" in ships you don't know how to fly with reasonable proficiency, so if such a concept were intoduced, it would require a rather serious commitment to any given race.
That being said, I think that a skill that gives a blanket bonus to all ships belonging to a race may be a bad idea. Every bonus offered in the game is another element that potentially destabilizes any perceived balance between the races. Trying to maintain balance after the introduction of such a skill would mean widespread nerfs of varied nature (depending on the bonus of the skill) for each race.
Ultimately, we'd end up with most ships very similar in potential to what we already had, but a new skill with excessive requirements to train up in order to acheive it.
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co.
Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
The OP idea is silly, but it'd be cool to have a "Minmatar Ship Specialization" that gives 5% to speed of all minnie ships, unlocked by having MinFrig, MinCruiser, and MinBS all at V. Something like that.
But not for the other races. That'd be stupid.
Now this is a good idea.
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Wideen
Eon Project
Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2008.04.02 17:53:00 -
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Ambulation FTW! complete it already, I'm dying to attend the bars with exxxotic dancers \0/
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Ecky X
The Aforementioned
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:04:00 -
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I think the OP is looking for something like the Recons that already exist... only with more firepower.
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Trevor Warps
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:20:00 -
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Yeah, uber leet idea.
Just make sure it can solo a 500 man fleet and i'll sign.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
The OP idea is silly, but it'd be cool to have a "Minmatar Ship Specialization" that gives 5% to speed of all minnie ships, unlocked by having MinFrig, MinCruiser, and MinBS all at V. Something like that.
But not for the other races. That'd be stupid.
The OP idea is silly. This idea is less silly.
Lets TRY to keep in mind that an extra +25% speed will make minmitar ships fly even further past the current invulnerability speed (which kicks in at a mere 6500m/s or so for missiles and drones)
Instead of focusing on the things a race does exceedingly well, focus on lesser aspects of a race. If you gave caldari more range for example, what the hell is a Rokh going to do besides sling antimatter 130km? If you gave us more ECM then true perma jams would be a reality again (as it stands, anything larger than a cruiser is generally impossible to perma jam - you just almost always jam). Perhaps a better solution is to boost the things you're terrible at, and more importantly boost stats that are not critically important for the race since it just forces more people down the evil path of min/maxing.
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Dyaven
Soldiers of the Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.02 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Perhaps a better solution is to boost the things you're terrible at, and more importantly boost stats that are not critically important for the race since it just forces more people down the evil path of min/maxing.
I like this. Maybe somethin' like...
Gallente: +2% Speed Per Level
Minmatar: +2% Shield and Armor HP Per Level
Caldari: ???
Amarr: +2% Cap Recharge Rate Per Level
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Jennifer Flate
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Jennifer Flate on 02/04/2008 20:04:45
Maybe a skill that is given to each player when they create the player. Meaning that they can only EVER have their races 'Racial Specific Skill'. Maybe the same as the guy above me has suggested, and....
Caldari: -2% Mass Per Level
Don't say it doesnt make sense :P. Caldari are supposed to be good engineer like people so i'm sure that an engineer person can modify their ship to have less mass.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2008.04.02 20:27:00 -
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One thing they could do would be have your blood line mean something.
in other words a reason to fly your races ships.
so my idea which is kinda the same of making your race/bloodline give a bonus to all races ships you fly...
so like speed for minmatar
cap for ammar
and such.
spaking of which the ammar cruiser should be a badass logtisics ca machince.
no amor repping or nosing, just TONS of cap, no weapons all enegry transfers.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.04.02 21:57:00 -
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Having your starting race affect your ship performance in a real way is IMO a bad idea. As it is right now, no matter what you start, you can 'be as good' as anyone else, at anything else.
That's good.
But in the realm of 'specialisation' I wonder. What if there were secondary and global effects of different ship skills?
I'm thinking sort of... maybe amarr battleship, gives you 1%/level to cap amount on every ship you fly.
Or Logistics gives you 1% cap use reduction on all remote reps. (Thus a high skilled logistics cruiser pilot is also a bit better when trying it in a BS).
Or perhaps minmtar frigate gives you 1%/level speed to all your ships.
Either racially biasing (so 'minmatar cruiser' special effect only affects 'minmatar' ships, or making it a more general effect - if you train every races BS to 4, you get a 'few' (well, frigate, cruiser, BS, so 12) '4%' bonuses.
The problem comes from making it a bit funky, but without actually making anything a 'must have'.
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Jennifer Flate
theFragment
The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.04.02 22:36:00 -
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lol. Wow, just noticed something with the posters on this thread....
Minmatar posters want more god-damned speed
Gallente posters seem to love to patronise/give stupid posts
Caldari posters like to be boring and give solutions
Amarr, the OP is just mentally ill.
Just an observation. Yea, maybe EVE is ok as it is. No more ships kthxbai
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.02 22:45:00 -
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:? Can I have faction warfare before this plx?
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Lance Fighter
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Posted - 2008.04.02 22:48:00 -
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amarr: 2% resistance bonus to amarr ships... 3? 5?
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Megan Maynard
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.04.03 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dyaven
I like this. Maybe somethin' like...
Gallente: +2% Speed Per Level
Minmatar: +2% Shield and Armor HP Per Level
Caldari: ???
Amarr: +2% Cap Recharge Rate Per Level
LOL, Step one: Steal underpants.
Step two: ???
Step Three: Make Profit.
Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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