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Murtala
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Posted - 2008.04.02 23:53:00 -
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Before jump clones, jump portals, warp to zero, and carriers etc, the only way to get from the market empire hubs to the lucrative 0.0 space was through low sec. Lots of 0.0 alliance pilots, goods and supplies had to travel through dangerous pirate infested low sec.
This often required 0.0 corp/alliances to form special ops with massive fleets guarding transport ship though lowsec. I think Bob used Aridia, if memory servers me well.
The old school pirate corps could seriously disrupt a 0.0 alliance by disrupting its supply line and many corps became famous. Many pirate corps also worked as mercenaries to disrupt there target supplies lines.
Now with carriers and jump freighters able to transport a lot of supplies from one jump inside low sec and not having to travel through low sec, the role of the pirate has diminished. Pirating is less lucrative as targets are mainly unsuspecting noob miners, agent mission runners and shooting each other.
CCP needs to think of a role for pirate corp and lo sec inhabitants, maybe increase the quality of resources so that some systems are worth fighting over.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2008.04.02 23:56:00 -
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i vote.. remove low sec.. make the lazy pvp'ers cry
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Oreh Anavrin
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 00:00:00 -
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WE DIDN'T LISTEN!
Run, run! pirating is dead for at least the 5th time in the last year. _________________________________ Sig Removed - Contact us at [email protected] with a link to your sig for more details. -Targoviste |
Malibu Stacey
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Posted - 2008.04.03 00:35:00 -
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Natural Selection. Survival of the Fittest.
However you want to say it, adapt or die. --- Forum Warfare / Rank 1 / SP: 1 of 250 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Currently training to: level 1 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Archa
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Posted - 2008.04.03 00:38:00 -
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zomg he is right, back to carebearing for me:)
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Valdarham
Black Reign
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Posted - 2008.04.03 00:48:00 -
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I got to agree, the days of pirates like Mo0, will never be seen again. I for one will miss those pain in the rear opps where we tried to get our supplies past them...oh wait no I won't! I will miss the anti-Mo0 posting however, they made me laugh. I posted a large amount of them lol!
Vald
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Orar Ironfist
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Posted - 2008.04.03 00:57:00 -
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Edited by: Orar Ironfist on 03/04/2008 00:57:59 Oh noes!!!11 The lazy pirates whine cause they cant get good fights How about do a thing called roaming every once in a while? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Tony Allizzar
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Posted - 2008.04.03 01:20:00 -
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eve adapts, so people dont come to low sec anymore... I just went to hi sec
Seriously though, low sec sucks butts these days. There is no reason for anyone to go there. Short cut? nah, now we got warp to 0km, extra 5 jumps wont hurt. Plex's? nah, we got exploration in hi sec. Mining? nah, the ore sucks in low sec missions? nah we got lvl4's in hi sec. Pew Pew? nah, the cearbears all left so us pies cant shoot them Pirates? nah, cant shoot the pirates in low sec cuz they went the find the cearbears.
I know someone is gonna post an tell me im looking in the wrong places, and yea, i know im making extreem cases here, but the fact remains... It aint like the good old days :( Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2008.04.03 01:47:00 -
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hasnt been piracy since early 04 anyway..
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Errellion
ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.03 01:56:00 -
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What about the dudes in Udianoor? They must be making a pack. I've lost at least a Bn worth in cargo and two ships to whatever lives on the gates in there mainly due to the fact I forget really they exist I was just happy to get up from 1-SMEB and out of 0.0.
In all fairness they suckered me in with a decent tactic which my scout and I hadn't forseen so fair play well done etc...but THAT pays. 500k of Zydrine dropped pays. If you don't thinyou're getting paid you're obviously not in the right place...go take on the guy's in Udianoor and have their area? Deaths Legion I think. Go pirate some more slack bast**** ------------------------------------------
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Princess Jodi
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Posted - 2008.04.03 03:15:00 -
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Good. I approve of Piracy being dead.
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Corwain
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Posted - 2008.04.03 03:26:00 -
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Edited by: Corwain on 03/04/2008 03:26:18
Originally by: Princess Jodi Good. I approve of Piracy being dead.
Ironic since you're a dirty pirate yourself. Just not a -10 one. Guess you've given it up last since I fight your losec Ishtar. Props for not nanoing, -props to me for running away after you jammed me the first two cycles of the fight (lucky b...nah, just kidding). -- Distortion| Distortion 2 Preview |
Hippie chic
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Posted - 2008.04.03 04:35:00 -
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those pirates in undinor are what? DL? i wouldnt really call em pirates, rather something worse. I watched em in vehan, put a noob corp alt there on the gate high sec side, log off 20 pilots on the vehan side. frieghter comes through with a scout, scout reports all clear, frieghter lands on gate and jumps, 20 pilots log in and land right on top of it.
This isnt piracy, this is game exploitation.
To each his own i suppose, but dont give them the pirate brand, there not good enough to be called that, pirates dont exploit.
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Angor
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Posted - 2008.04.03 04:35:00 -
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I totally agree, this game has become so much carebear orientated it makes me sick.
I guess too many people were quitting the game cos they were too stupid to use an alt to jump into lowsec with their 5bil cargo etc. and CCP wana stop ppl from cancelling their subscriptions so why not make it safer to travel for its customers .
I dont think pirate corps will become extinct because of the current changes (although I wish they'd get rid of jump bridges) but the way the game is going, soon you'll probably be able to jump bridge straight from high-sec to 0.0 making this game totally crap for pirate entities. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
SlowMovingFisherman
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Posted - 2008.04.03 05:24:00 -
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srsly move exploration to low sec and 0.0 only. hell you can even make it an RP reason really easily.
Ishkune develops new scanning technology! Due to this new technology faction navies have now pwnd all you exploration sites and are now farming them themselves to fill up on stocks for potential hostilities between each other factions.
make long story line leading up to next patch day. pulls explorers into lowsec, and fixes risk vs reward.
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Seth Quantix
Domination. Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 05:29:00 -
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My god the OP is a dripper!
Just war dec the target alliance and kill there frieghtors in empire.
Just because eve does not suit you does not mean it wrong. I just find it hard to belive your complaining about not been able to gank haulers.
out of ten you get a fail!
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RuleoftheBone
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.03 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc i vote.. remove low sec.. make the lazy pvp'ers cry
I vote remove alts, capital ships, jump bridges, cyno jammers, moon mining, static bubbles, and POS's. Make the lazy alliance pvp'ers cry.....
Oh never mind .
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.03 07:10:00 -
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Uhm.. wasnt this fully discussed quite recently (almost duplicate post) under crime and punishement, or was it intergallactic summit. Bottomline, stop whining and adapt.
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Cazius
Horizon.Inc
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Posted - 2008.04.03 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: Cazius on 03/04/2008 07:33:07 Die pirates!!
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Skeltem
Trident Future Technologies
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:13:00 -
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Pirate corps facing extinction? Well, so did the dinosaurs. And whatever Steven Spielberg says: we're better off without them. So to answer your OP: Yes please with sugar on top.
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NOL Waiter
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:31:00 -
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Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
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SwindonBadger
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:53:00 -
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The cyno chain factor kills allot of what the game had to offer for pirates/scally waggs alike and not just lo sec. It was hard but not impossible to take a fleet of roaming bs through most allainces space and with a bit of skill be able to travel out again (or mess up get trapped).
So what the leaves is nanno ships or cloaking ships.... for any kind of 0.0 roam unless u know, ur one of those "I log off at trouble". None of this added with the fact u have most assets safly moved around adds to pvp involvement and slowly bleed allot of fun away. Lag fests and posses do not intrest me, Im pritty sure Im not the only one who wants fun fights away from force fields. I dont say go back on cyno chains maybe a look at adding something in to break up the staleness that has overwhelmed at least quite a few decent players Ive worked with or fought against. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2008.04.03 08:58:00 -
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Pirates have only themselves to blame. They hunted lowsec carebears to near-extinction, moved from the belts to the gates to catch more of them.
It's a bit like fishing with industrials nets. Sure, you catch a lot of fish. So much that fish can't reproduce enough to make up for the number of fish caught.
You want more targets? Then take a low-sec region, clear it from other pirates, and stop pirating for 6 months. Then you'll have a thriving low-sec population to prey upon. But don't start camping gates again... ------------------------------------------ Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
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Vile rat
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Posted - 2008.04.03 09:01:00 -
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I've always thought conquerable stations were stupid. They encourage "safe" areas and pos warfare. Without them we'd have a lot more fun. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
RuleoftheBone
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.03 09:42:00 -
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Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 03/04/2008 09:43:17 For the OP (in case you were planning on whinging some more on behalf of an industry sector that does not recognize you as anyone-let alone a spokesperson):
-Any reasonably competent combat organization can easily disrupt operations in most any constellation irregardless of the current 0.0 mechanics. A small fleet (small as in 10-15 pilots max) of fast HAC's/inty's is enough to trigger either:
-Mass docking/POS hugging etc. -Force an alliance to mount up a large op to police the area and repel intruders. Some are better at this than others though .
**Side Note**The Burn Eden guys have this down pat.
While 0.0 piracy may not be very profitable...it is fun stirring up the hornets nest every now and again. This in spite of current game mechanics too.
And the rest of you 0.0 chestbeaters can admit it...you know you get a little chill seeing an all blinky crew enter stage left when least expected right?
And also for the OP..if you ain't a profitable pirate you are doing it wrong.
**EDIT**You won't see the better outlaw groups disappearing anytime soon. And thats a good thing.
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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Potty
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Posted - 2008.04.03 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Valdarham I got to agree, the days of pirates like Mo0, will never be seen again. I for one will miss those pain in the rear opps where we tried to get our supplies past them...oh wait no I won't! I will miss the anti-Mo0 posting however, they made me laugh. I posted a large amount of them lol!
Vald
If you were in M0o or ever fought them, you would know they oftern ventured into 0.0 for PvP.
regards, potty
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kurikymoko yasai
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Posted - 2008.04.03 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword Pirates have only themselves to blame. They hunted lowsec carebears to near-extinction, moved from the belts to the gates to catch more of them.
It's a bit like fishing with industrials nets. Sure, you catch a lot of fish. So much that fish can't reproduce enough to make up for the number of fish caught.
You want more targets? Then take a low-sec region, clear it from other pirates, and stop pirating for 6 months. Then you'll have a thriving low-sec population to prey upon. But don't start camping gates again...
There is some element of truth in this quote. Also, bear in mind that a fully cargo expanded itty is about 40Km3 volume while a rorqual is about 120Km3 so for the time it take to carry 3 itty from hi sec to 0.0 we have more than enough time to do 2 jump with the rorqual and thus carry a lot more stuff to 0.0 with added security. Sure it cost about 15M per return trip but it is worth it.
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Shinux
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:16:00 -
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Good. You know when gate camping got old? When m0o left Mara. The "pirates" you speak of are lazy, unorganized scrubs that expect victims to fall into their collective lap. Gatecamping at this point in EVE is like mining ark in a Probe tbh, it's an old and at this point unaccomplished way of scoring kills. I say, get with the program, and join us, it's 2003 outside - *****ios is up for the taking, and capturable stations just came out!
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Commander Thrawn
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:24:00 -
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there are no pirates in low sec. feel free to sec destination with no regards to security levels of system. no one will shoot you. your haulers are perfectly safe
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Faekurias
Federation Fleet Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:29:00 -
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Die all dirty pirates!
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