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Kiyirari
Sick and Twisted
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:38:00 -
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Life as pirate has become much harder, its time for them to rethink how they do buisness.
Prehaps they should install spys in alliance, as to find out friether/carrier runs to empire. Have a sizeable capital fleet to engage the above or even take down POS on route. Time to forget the badge of - security status for a more positve one and engage in warfare against alliance's.
Any other sugestions are welcome...
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RuleoftheBone
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 03/04/2008 11:54:38 Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 03/04/2008 11:53:07
Originally by: Kiyirari Life as pirate has become much harder, its time for them to rethink how they do buisness.
Prehaps they should install spys in alliance, as to find out friether/carrier runs to empire. Have a sizeable capital fleet to engage the above or even take down POS on route. Time to forget the badge of - security status for a more positve one and engage in warfare against alliance's.
Any other sugestions are welcome...
Hmmm....so what you are saying is:
-Pirates/outlaws should all begin heavily metagaming.
-Pirates/outlaws should all join the "its my capships online and I'll cry about HIC's/speed-fits if I want to" brigade?
-Pirates/outlaws should all "adapt" to sitting in fleet with hundreds of F1-F8 jockeys being shouted at by the generally clueless facing broken mechanics and framerates spoken of in terms of minutes/frame?
Yeah...sign me right the **** up .
**EDIT**Your post is no different than the null-sec whingers demanding all of hisec fall into thier 100 man super dooper large size bubble camps .
"Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
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Don Z0LA
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2008.04.03 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Don Z0LA on 03/04/2008 11:53:29
Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Originally by: thoth foc i vote.. remove low sec.. make the lazy pvp'ers cry
I vote remove alts, capital ships, jump bridges, cyno jammers, moon mining, static bubbles, and POS's. Make the lazy alliance pvp'ers cry.....
Oh never mind .
qft
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Fayte Seraph
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Fayte Seraph on 03/04/2008 12:10:20 capital ships and warp to 0km made piracy seriously more effort then its worth.
but long gone are the days of battleships being as rare as titans.
EVE is advancing, and things are changing, but a profession such as piracy was one of the big sectors of subscribers.
they do need to do something about low sec. its basically a waste of time and space (literally :P)
low sec/0.0 only exploration sounds like a decent suggestion though...
EDIT: Bring back small to medium (5-25) gang warfare :D - its more FUN!
Right now everyone seems to think 'the more and bigger the better' and EVE is 'adapting' to that concept, which is really pathetic.
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Nebuchadnezzar I
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:16:00 -
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I'd just like to add that its not only lowsec "ganking" that has taken a hit.
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Commander Thrawn
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Fayte Seraph Edited by: Fayte Seraph on 03/04/2008 12:10:20 capital ships and warp to 0km made piracy seriously more effort then its worth.
but long gone are the days of battleships being as rare as titans.
EVE is advancing, and things are changing, but a profession such as piracy was one of the big sectors of subscribers.
they do need to do something about low sec. its basically a waste of time and space (literally :P)
low sec/0.0 only exploration sounds like a decent suggestion though...
EDIT: Bring back small to medium (5-25) gang warfare :D - its more FUN!
Right now everyone seems to think 'the more and bigger the better' and EVE is 'adapting' to that concept, which is really pathetic.
have you even been to lowsec?
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LordHelmchen
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:57:00 -
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there is still a lot of traffic tbh log in and luck for yourself nebu Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Nebuchadnezzar I
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:58:00 -
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Log in, what, how, why? :D
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LordHelmchen
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Posted - 2008.04.03 12:58:00 -
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forum *****! Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Kain De'Stroi
Epic.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kain De''Stroi on 03/04/2008 14:08:43 i dont feel very exctinced.
its true that suply lines are a bit harder to disrupt then what they where in 2005. but atleast 60% of all the 0.0 alliances are not organized enought to do it right and theres still plenty of targets. (imho about the same percent of all 0.0 inhabitants are clueless about pvp and are just lambs for the slaughter when they dont got a blob and a decent FC by their side :P )
now if they could cyno straight to high sec it would be impossible to disrupt a suply line, but atm they cant and have to cyno to low sec.
i would like to thank ccp for the new undock mechanic by the way.
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Lungorthin
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:20:00 -
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I'd love to see true piracy where pirates can incapacitate and board enemy ships and take it as a prize.
Besides... more pirates would reduce global warming as we all know *g*
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Ayari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lungorthin I'd love to see true piracy where pirates can incapacitate and board enemy ships and take it as a prize.
Besides... more pirates would reduce global warming as we all know *g*
Ramen!
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Princess Jodi
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain Edited by: Corwain on 03/04/2008 03:26:18
Originally by: Princess Jodi Good. I approve of Piracy being dead.
Ironic since you're a dirty pirate yourself. Just not a -10 one. Guess you've given it up last since I fight your losec Ishtar. Props for not nanoing, -props to me for running away after you jammed me the first two cycles of the fight (lucky b...nah, just kidding).
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you have just confused me with someone else. I can't fly an Ishtar, don't fly ships smaller than Bs's, and certainly am not a Piewrat. My security status is 4.5
Once you have determined the error of your ways, I'll accept a box of chocolates and some drugs as way of an apology.
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Lord Rue
GenX Societies Inc. Rejuvenate
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Posted - 2008.04.03 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Rue on 03/04/2008 16:25:26
Quote: Pirates have only themselves to blame. They hunted lowsec carebears to near-extinction, moved from the belts to the gates to catch more of them.
It's a bit like fishing with industrials nets. Sure, you catch a lot of fish. So much that fish can't reproduce enough to make up for the number of fish caught.
You want more targets? Then take a low-sec region, clear it from other pirates, and stop pirating for 6 months. Then you'll have a thriving low-sec population to prey upon. But don't start camping gates again...
This guy's got it down.
Because of the rampant piracy in low-sec, I'm skipping right from Empire to 0.0. The one time I stuck my nose into low-sec space to see how the ores were (before I realized how boring mining is) I was popped before I made it out of the gate. How do you think that encourages more 'targets' to enter your area?
True carebears are going to stay far away and remain in Empire, and most other players will simply bypass lowsec for 0.0 because as it stands right now, lowsec is a cesspool with minimal rewards over Empire and much higher risk.
Devil bunnies! I snort the nose! Lucifer! Banana! |
Murtala
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Posted - 2008.04.03 17:37:00 -
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I started my PVP career as a pirate and like most of my mates at the time we are now in 0.0 alliances. But I saw pirating and pirate corps as the first rung of the ladder for the wannbe pvp player.
Like the Veto guy said many old school pirates did regular roams into 0.0 to pwn 0.0 alliances based on the edge of lo-sec. Many old school pirate corp owned the systems on the edge of lo-sec.
Gate camping in those days was like watching paint dry, boring. But like someone else said, the carebears have been hunted to extinction, the current pirate eagerly wait on the hi-lo sec gate to gank noobs.
That is not pvp and not as honourable as the old school pirates, fact. I'm not whinging, I've had my fun back in the days and I am having my fun now.
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fugazii
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Posted - 2008.04.03 18:08:00 -
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CCP needs to bring back the mission spawn in Aunenen and make every mission in Nonni go to it again.
While ccp has nerfed many things of pirating, they have givin pirates some benefits. Going from region to region in shortest route didn't always take you through a couple low sec systems, but it does now. The best agents wasn't always in low sec but it is now. There's more 0.0 choke points now also, so more pirates can camp more high traffic places.
The problem I find is theres so many players now, but pirate corps have stayed the same size. With the popular mind set of blobbing and a good fight being thought as winning regardless of force rather than a challenging fight is making pirating on a downward turn. Unfortunately until EVE Uni and other similar training corps changes their teachings this mindset won't soon be changed. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. "There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f*****g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON |
Omega Man
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Posted - 2008.04.03 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn
have you even been to lowsec?
Why bother? - Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345 |
Zubakis
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Posted - 2008.04.03 18:21:00 -
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Why do you bash on lowsec gate campers? How are they different from 0.0 gate campers?
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Mahn AlNouhm
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.04.03 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Man
Originally by: Commander Thrawn
have you even been to lowsec?
Why bother?
QFT, and that's the real problem. The risk has increased because there are more people playing the game, but the rewards have remained the same, and the rewards just aren't that good these days. There really isn't a good reason for most people to go through low sec anymore. I would like to see a few things happen:
1. Give mining vessels massive boosts to their defensive capabilities (at the expense of any and all offensive capabilities, OFC). They would require multiple BS to pop. Give them shield or armor transfer capabilites, too (again, effective only on other mining vessels), encouraging cooperation between miners. If a mining ship is more trouble than its worth to blow up, pirates won't bother. This would move a vital part of the Eve industrial complex out of Empire, encouraging spread of population. 2. Move more higher value ores into low sec, diminish the amount of crap ores. 3. Move exploration to low sec or null sec exclusively. 4. Move high value missions to low sec and null sec exclusively.
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Erikel
Cosmic Odyssey Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.04.03 18:42:00 -
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Plenty of targets in 0.0, why do pirates have to stay in low sec?
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Erikel Plenty of targets in 0.0, why do pirates have to stay in low sec?
More chances to earn isk too, this is one thing I never got. Sure the heavily populated areas of 0.0 where alliances are capable of blobbing you in a few minutes won't be that good, but regional choke points and alliance supply lines could be some of the most profitable piracy in EVE, especially if you have the logistics in place to deal with the loot (harder than it sounds)
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Asgauard
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:04:00 -
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hmmm, is it possible to have a bunch of logistic ships repping the attacker in hi sec while concord is trying to kill the agressor? If so, that would work then :)
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MrHalls
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:17:00 -
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not another OMFG its hard to be a pirate post. cry me a river
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn there are no pirates in low sec. feel free to sec destination with no regards to security levels of system. no one will shoot you. your haulers are perfectly safe
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Letrange
Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2008.04.03 19:52:00 -
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It's simple: too many wolves in low sec, they've eaten all the sheep and now they are starving. Cry me a river baby. The carebear progression is Empire->0.0 now. Live with it. Low sec is not broken, it's just suffering the laws of nature.
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Trepkos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 20:06:00 -
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Easy way to solve this problem, move all of the level 4 agents to low security space.
Get rid of the lack of risk vs. reward factor regarding mission running.
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Morfane
The IMorral MAjority Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Trepkos Easy way to solve this problem, move all of the level 4 agents to low security space.
Get rid of the lack of risk vs. reward factor regarding mission running.
Don't I wish it was this simple. There exist two reasons, in my most humble opinion, for the lack of players in low-sec.
First, CCP make a big mistake and coddled the playerbase by allowing them to make easy big isk in highsec. This spoiled them, to the point that they will probably quit en masse if CCP nerfs their isk machines (which is why it doesn't happen). If, since the beginning, the progression of risk was commensurate with the rewards gained, it would have been a natural thing to move into lowsec then 0.0 as your character's earning potential rose, as it is with every other MMO out there. It's too late now to restore this.
Second, is that there exists a common type of player who will never participate in lowsec/0.0 activity as they feel it would take too much effort and cost to compete in the PvP arena, and they don't want to associate with what are surely a big pack of basement psychos anyway. If lvl 4's are put into lowsec, this class of player will consider them removed from the game. Note that they don't have any particular loyalty to missioning; these guys will not run lvl 3's if another activity in highsec earns them more per hour.
The best idea I have yet heard was to make mining ships very very tough. I say give them less agility too. And far larger cargoholds, because having to use haulers is lame. Make belt rats get harder the more you mine, too. And have all minerals be available in all areas, but you just get far more in lowsec and far far more in 0.0.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:10:00 -
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Pirates are bad people, its easy to avoid them.
The bulk of them are bad pirates, they are even easier to avoid. -
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Brisco County
Spartan Fleet Systems Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:49:00 -
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The rewards just don't follow the risk involved for lowsec mining. A miner can hug empire for more or less the same reward as low sec, or join a 0.0 corp where there is (arguably) less risk than lowsec mining and much better reward.
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Tarantelita
Ragna Rok Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc i vote.. remove low sec.. make the lazy pvp'ers cry
1) I say remove all kind of "cyno hauling machanics" (so you need to do real travel).
2) Remove 0 km warp in and change the game machanincs so you cant make ss 300km around gates and stations.
3) Remove all redicules items that gives one ship "endless with shield or armor", or uber resistens.
4) Remove all the "noob patches" that have been made only for the noobs in game.
Today you cant to sh** if your not in a big f****** gang roaming, or in a big alliance. SP:s dosent matter this days.
This game have evolved around the noobs and lamers. Soon EVE will be = WOW.
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