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Cer'es
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Posted - 2004.04.18 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Cer'es on 18/04/2004 09:28:28
Edited by: Cer'es on 18/04/2004 09:27:37
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I have said all i want to say on the subject... NFA are now classed as pirates. End of discussion.
Regards
Aneu Angellus
well thats nice, so how about when Rev0l attacked 2 members from Juba corp last week who entereted fountain from Aridia to head to yz to collect some stuff from a hanger?
Lee N from Juba lost his ship from this unprovoked attack on them
When i quizzed TBone in local on why they attacked these guys? all i got was stupid replys, like
"we thought they were scouts"
ok spies in battleships? the guy who lost his ship Lee N who was in Juba for like 2 months and is the industry Manager
Juba who have no allegance to FA
The the reply i get from Mr TBone in locaL which i loved was
"Shows you that you cant protect fountain"
ofcourse u cant protect something 24/7, but it also shows rev0l are going to the lenghs of being pirates to keep there fight against FA (not NFA)
EDIT: spelling mistake*
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.Flamenco Haggis.
Once a pround member of Xanadu
Member of Mercury and Solace [MACE]
Currently proud member of ATUK
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Tassadar Beta
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Posted - 2004.04.18 10:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tassadar Beta on 18/04/2004 10:13:37
Xanadu, Xanadu, Xanadu....why do all the posts seem to think theres only Xanadu? Xanadu are part of the Fountain Alliance (FA not NFA). And I can only laugh at all these accusations thrown at them and the FA.
When several corps were chucked out I could understand but I was surprised, and several people went from in my eyes anyway respectable ppl to PR wannabes who lie or greatly exagerate storys. Now by no means is the FA whiter than white, we have made mistakes before and we probaly will in the future. But I dont see the point in people making accusations which they have probaly heard only through word of mouth with little or no proof, other than someone more than likely making it up.
And all this does is breed hate and anger among everyone, indeed Xanadu are powerful and a corp that I respect and admire and I can honestly say they arent involved in these things and if they were it would have been the FA as a whole.
So stop flaming people, stop posting chat logs that mean absolutely nothing (and can be forged easily ditto with screenies), stop making accusations no-one can prove, dont flame or smack talk in local and finally lets just get ingame with a few beers and take it out on our ships.
There is no need to breed anger and hate at people who could easily become your friends in real life.
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Sabercat
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Posted - 2004.04.18 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tassadar Beta on 18/04/2004 10:13:37
Xanadu, Xanadu, Xanadu....why do all the posts seem to think theres only Xanadu? Xanadu are part of the Fountain Alliance (FA not NFA). And I can only laugh at all these accusations thrown at them and the FA.
No matter what you say, Xanadu was behind this whole throwing over of the FA. Funny how a few of the corps that got to stay in the New FA (NFA)were sponsered by guess who? Xanadu. Looks like it was planned for some time to me.
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When several corps were chucked out I could understand but I was surprised, and several people went from in my eyes anyway respectable ppl to PR wannabes who lie or greatly exagerate storys. Now by no means is the FA whiter than white, we have made mistakes before and we probaly will in the future. But I dont see the point in people making accusations which they have probaly heard only through word of mouth with little or no proof, other than someone more than likely making it up.
Reading this whole thread I still can't see why these corps that were kicked were deemed "non-productive" in the first place. I know for a fact that CME was in fact productive. What gave Xanadu, and the other corps involved in this Coup, the right to decide who stayed and who went. That was for the council to decide.
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And all this does is breed hate and anger among everyone, indeed Xanadu are powerful and a corp that I respect and admire and I can honestly say they arent involved in these things and if they were it would have been the FA as a whole.
Of course it breeds anger.How could it possibly not, I was shocked and ****ed to all hell that My corp got kicked when we did everything we could to help the alliance. There was no reason at all for CME to be kicked. Guess we were a threat to the NFA. Who knows
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So stop flaming people, stop posting chat logs that mean absolutely nothing (and can be forged easily ditto with screenies), stop making accusations no-one can prove, dont flame or smack talk in local and finally lets just get ingame with a few beers and take it out on our ships.
There is no need to breed anger and hate at people who could easily become your friends in real life.
I can agree with you here. This is, after all, a game and I for one am just here to have a good time. But what Xanadu and company did was just plain wrong and it could have been handled a lot better imo. I can tell you from my experiances so far in Revolution that these are a great bunch to be around (Even Aneu!  ) and we are not pirates at all. We just don't appreciate Megacorps/Alliances telling us that we are not good enough to be around them and we will be a thorn in the NFA's side for some time to come 
VIVA REVOLUTION !!! 
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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2004.04.18 11:59:00 -
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No matter what you say, Xanadu was behind this whole throwing over of the FA. Funny how a few of the corps that got to stay in the New FA (NFA)were sponsered by guess who? Xanadu. Looks like it was planned for some time to me.
No matter what you say, Xanadu was by no means behind the adjustments made to FA alone. They were not acting on their own behalf. Nor were their part in it any more or any less instrumental than any of the other corporations that stayed behind.
I do understand that it must be convenient to direct your frustrations towards the biggest target, but that doesn't change the fact that a majority of FA wanted this change, and made it happen by planning and working together as a team.
You're saying that it looks to you that this was planned for some time, in reply to that I can only say: Ofcourse it was. This is not something you do in the heat of the moment. But I'm a bit curious as to how long time you think this was planned for :-)
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Reading this whole thread I still can't see why these corps that were kicked were deemed "non-productive" in the first place. I know for a fact that CME was in fact productive. What gave Xanadu, and the other corps involved in this Coup, the right to decide who stayed and who went. That was for the council to decide.
I don't really see a point in going into details on what lead to the departure of specific corporations, it'll only serve to further heat the discussion.
I do however find it interesting that you speak of "rights" in this, as if we would need some higher legal or moral authority to sanction our actions. We don't need that. We did what we did because we deemed it necessary for the future well-being of FA, and when realising the necessity we took action because we could.
If you'll allow me an analogy, gameplay doesn't require of you a "right" to say gank indies at the D4AKU gate. What the FA did is gameplay too, if on a somewhat higher level.
Now, one could ofcourse discuss at length whether or not our actions were in fact legally and morally justifiable in a RP context, but to be honest, the concept bores me. :-)
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Of course it breeds anger.How could it possibly not, I was shocked and ****ed to all hell that My corp got kicked when we did everything we could to help the alliance. There was no reason at all for CME to be kicked. Guess we were a threat to the NFA. Who knows
And you have every reason to be angry, no one would expect anything less. I think the origin of this thread comes from a certain frustration over how some people project their anger however, not over the anger itself ;-)
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We just don't appreciate Megacorps/Alliances telling us that we are not good enough to be around them and we will be a thorn in the NFA's side for some time to come
Which is completely understandable, I can honestly tell you I'd blow a fuse or two if I had found myself at the wrong end of the corp list last saturday. But let's sweat it out in our ships shall we, as has already been suggested several times in this thread :-)
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qrac
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Posted - 2004.04.18 12:06:00 -
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[ 2004.04.16 18:45:54 ] (notify) Interference from the warp Thou Shall Be Smite is preventing your sensors from getting a target lock on them.
[ 2004.04.16 18:46:10 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Paradise Cruise Missile I belonging to tom o hits you, doing 165.0 damage.
this looks like tibor warped out and tom o warped in or jumped in to me since tom o isn't in the log before that.
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Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.04.18 15:58:00 -
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@ Alkad Mzu
The whole thing was planned before or around the day I (as a PAK pilot) saw your 10+ battleships[hirr] arrive at Aridia. We were organizing a little frigate tournament and you lot camped the gate to grief us with all that many battleships :P
That's my conspiracy theory :)
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.04.18 16:19:00 -
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Kakalot, that was planned, they were intending to disrupt the frigate tournament, I read the forum post on the director board despite Sarah asking nicely for it to be held.
I am still quite astonishment at the repeated statements stating that everything is just "Fine and Dandy" within the NFA organization. To this date, one corp has completely left the alliance after the coup attempt. Many members of the NFA's corps have left due to the disagreement of the NFA's move. I also have many folks within the NFA's organization that continually feed me with intelligence.
Also, a massive corp theft within the Xanadu organization tells me things are not as wonderfully rosy either.
Despite the NFA's statements to the opposite, things are not quite right within the organization.
Kudos to all who can see through the propaganda and the very apparent about face of what Fountain stood for.
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2004.04.18 16:38:00 -
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Kakalot, that was planned, they were intending to disrupt the frigate tournament, I read the forum post on the director board despite Sarah asking nicely for it to be held.
You expect the Fountain Alliance to allow a corp that has been pirating them for months in their space with a frig tournament?
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I am still quite astonishment at the repeated statements stating that everything is just "Fine and Dandy" within the NFA organization. To this date, one corp has completely left the alliance after the coup attempt. Many members of the NFA's corps have left due to the disagreement of the NFA's move. I also have many folks within the NFA's organization that continually feed me with intelligence.
Also, a massive corp theft within the Xanadu organization tells me things are not as wonderfully rosy either.
Despite the NFA's statements to the opposite, things are not quite right within the organization.
I can't help but laugh when you first come up with this and then you proceed with the following statement.
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Kudos to all who can see through the propaganda and the very apparent about face of what Fountain stood for.
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Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.04.18 16:44:00 -
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Hey Bizzar
IMHO I think you should change the text in your siggy a lil bit .. something along the line of "Combat is like ...." in general. But then all the safespots, chat spam and five fingers stroking dont apply 
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2004.04.18 16:46:00 -
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Hey Bizzar
IMHO I think you should change the text in your siggy a lil bit .. something along the line of "Combat is like ...." in general. But then all the safespots, chat spam and five fingers stroking dont apply
It's a quote from someone else.
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Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.04.18 17:02:00 -
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My bad
May I ask who is that able commander 
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2004.04.18 17:07:00 -
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My bad
May I ask who is that able commander
Jade Constantine
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Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.04.18 17:12:00 -
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Okie. Thanks for your time :P
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.04.18 17:36:00 -
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Bizzare, no I don't, matter of fact I encouraged them to attack PAK if I remember correctly. Kakalot asked the question, I answered.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2004.04.19 01:37:00 -
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I dont really have anything to say on this matter, I just wanted to bookmark where I left off reading.
Oh..on the pirate issue, well I kinda believe that everyone has a little pirate locked away inside them, just too afraid to let it out
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Remo Williams
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Posted - 2004.04.19 05:53:00 -
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i find this statement amusing since revol are currently home
to old pak pirates .. wolver1n , a wannabe indi ganker , and i
can name 2 more pirates who had nothing to do the last
couple of months but gank indis incluing your own
corpmates en route to fountain .
Thats right...I fought these guys, chased them, and they have earned 10 fold the respect of their current corpmates than any member of the NFA. They are good people who seen thru the old FA fog, that I couldn't till recent. I am happy to have these folks as my corpmates...and would choose them anyday over being partnered with the NFA members. I only wish I would have done this sooner....
*f3ar teh Rev0luti0n*
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.04.19 06:52:00 -
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I've only read the opening post, and that's what i'm replying to.
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So far they have given us no proof apart from "I have spoken to their CEO and he told me that...". Secondly, they call Xanadu pirates, yet they encourage pirate corps such as SIM to ally with them to fight the Fountain Alliance.
I'm going to explain this once, and only once for you, so listen closely.
The Enemy Of Our Enemy Is Our Friend. Ok?
Calling US pirates? Coming from CELES that's laughable. Now, Givin' we've worked with pirates in the past, and operated in syndicate against Any FA traffic, but plz.. Outright pirates? I think not.
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Extravagant
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Posted - 2004.04.19 08:11:00 -
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I'm going to explain this once, and only once for you, so listen closely.
The Enemy Of Our Enemy Is Our Friend. Ok?
Calling US pirates? Coming from CELES that's laughable. Now, Givin' we've worked with pirates in the past, and operated in syndicate against Any FA traffic, but plz.. Outright pirates? I think not.
Yet your buddies in rev0l class FA as pirates because they had m0o in FA space? The enemy of our enemy is our friend right?
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FZappa
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Posted - 2004.04.19 11:48:00 -
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Thats right...I fought these guys, chased them, and they have earned 10 fold the respect of their current corpmates than any member of the NFA. They are good people who seen thru the old FA fog, that I couldn't till recent. I am happy to have these folks as my corpmates...and would choose them anyday over being partnered with the NFA members. I only wish I would have done this sooner....
PAK were pirate because thats what they chose to be , pirates .
regardless of FA or not . whatever remains of pak are still
pirates . your corp contains known pirates , however you
try to spin it .
im surprised my old corp mates are willing to be in the same
corp such individuals , knowing full well they have no
intention of reforming . this whole issue seems to have been
flooded with immaturity and forum trolling by revol and thus
far does not seem to support your case against FA .
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.04.19 13:51:00 -
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Very well, classify Rev0lution as a bunch of pirates that have a fond taste for NFA ships.
I really dont give a crap what you think honestly. It changes nothing.
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Intukaki
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Posted - 2004.04.19 13:59:00 -
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NFA ships.
'FA' its our name get used to it
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.04.19 14:35:00 -
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NFA. =) Neener!
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2004.04.19 17:35:00 -
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Thats right...I fought these guys, chased them, and they have earned 10 fold the respect of their current corpmates than any member of the NFA. They are good people who seen thru the old FA fog, that I couldn't till recent. I am happy to have these folks as my corpmates...and would choose them anyday over being partnered with the NFA members. I only wish I would have done this sooner....
PAK were pirate because thats what they chose to be , pirates .
regardless of FA or not . whatever remains of pak are still
pirates . your corp contains known pirates , however you
try to spin it .
im surprised my old corp mates are willing to be in the same
corp such individuals , knowing full well they have no
intention of reforming . this whole issue seems to have been
flooded with immaturity and forum trolling by revol and thus
far does not seem to support your case against FA .
NFA has known 'former' pirates in it's corps, What makes your 'former' pirates any more reformed than ours?
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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.04.19 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 18:32:18
Nice to see CFI corpmates like FZappa and qrac who never participated in military ops be SO BOLD on the forums, supporting XAN and BIG cleary the most benevolent honest and democracy loving organizations (j/k).
CFI = Carebears of Fountain Inc. Always has been. I hope you will grow some b*lls in the future. Until then just be quiet and let those who want to fight, fight. |
Maul555
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Posted - 2004.04.19 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Maul555 on 19/04/2004 18:14:10
Im starting to wonder why I even read these threads anymore. All you people do is go in circles all day....
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Lee N from Juba lost his ship from this unprovoked attack on them
When i quizzed TBone in local on why they attacked these guys? all i got was stupid replys, like
"we thought they were scouts"
Oh, and btw, im seeing to it personaly that Lee N gets his corpse back.. you know, the one that was ejected from tbones megathron when FA blew it all to hell.
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FOL1
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Posted - 2004.04.19 18:15:00 -
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The NFA topic is is crazy. All this smack talking is crazy. Lets all kiss and make up.
So lets stop the posts on FA, then again, I think Ill stop reading the forums again, as there is nothing but drivel on it. (I know this is proberly drivel, but has to be said).
*Note: Xanadu, please call off your lapdogs (Evol), as they seem to be following my corp round. We left NFA gracefully and placed a polite announcement, but it had to be spoiled. Hell we even helped defend gates, even after we decided to leave.
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.04.19 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 18:32:18
Nice to see CFI corpmates like FZappa and qrac who never participated in military ops be SO BOLD on the forums, supporting XAN and BIG cleary the most benevolent honest and democracy loving organizations (j/k).
CFI = Carebears of Fountain Inc. Always has been. I hope you will grow some b*lls in the future. Until then just be quiet and let those who want to fight, fight.
Hipocrite.
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Drahcir Nasom
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Posted - 2004.04.19 18:50:00 -
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Kakalot, that was planned, they were intending to disrupt the frigate tournament, I read the forum post on the director board despite Sarah asking nicely for it to be held.
You expect the Fountain Alliance to allow a corp that has been pirating them for months in their space with a frig tournament?
Actually, PAK had been given permission to hold the tournament by the Head Marshall from FA. The subject was due to be discussed at FA Council the same night as the tournament and at least one corp from FA was actually preparing to field a team, however another vote in the council which decided that FA would make no agreements of any sorts with corps they considered to be pirates (the vote resulted from a NAP my corp had with PAK outside FA controlled space), made a vote on the tournament moot anyway.
Drahcir Nasom
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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.04.19 19:09:00 -
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Shamad Conde, you know where to find me. And I wont be mining. And learn to spell.
Ugh, enough of this, cya in space. |
LiNkIsMaXiMuS
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Posted - 2004.04.19 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 18:32:18
Nice to see CFI corpmates like FZappa and qrac who never participated in military ops be SO BOLD on the forums, supporting XAN and BIG cleary the most benevolent honest and democracy loving organizations (j/k).
CFI = Carebears of Fountain Inc. Always has been. I hope you will grow some b*lls in the future. Until then just be quiet and let those who want to fight, fight.
Well at least we make the money to replace our ships, unlike u guys, lose one ship takes u a week 2 mine/come up with a new one.....U will be seeing me up there alot more, since there is nothing left for me to kill in empire, i need new prey 
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