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![Extravagant Extravagant](/images/people/img13.png)
Extravagant
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Posted - 2004.04.17 08:34:00 -
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Edited by: Extravagant on 17/04/2004 08:49:14 Greetings,
Lately I have been following the FA-soap as a neutral observer, I was even in Fountain on that particular saturday, and with great amusement I've been following the forum war surrounding it. I have made a few observations regarding rev0luti0n which I feel need to be highlighted.
Let's start with their constant accusations towards Xanadu. They claim Xanadu hired a mercenary corporation to attack HeartVenom Inc. in empire space. So far they have given us no proof apart from "I have spoken to their CEO and he told me that...". Secondly, they call Xanadu pirates, yet they encourage pirate corps such as SIM to ally with them to fight the Fountain Alliance. Weird logic innit? Thirdly, they claim Xanadu has been paying EVOL to help them out. But yet again, we are given no proof! And by far the most amusing accusation, calling Xanadu backhanded for making a nap with CA, while at the same time asking CA to fight FA.
I cannot help but laugh at these mindless accusations not backed up with some form of proof. Where are the Teamspeak logs or the screenshots or whatever! Rev0luti0n, you are simply trying to stirr the situation and allying with every scumbag you can find in the hopes you will defeat FA.
Come up with proof or stop accusing FA of doing anything.
Note: this rant does not represent the opinion of Celestial Apocalypse.
EDIT: I am sure that rev0luti0n has many fine people, but unfortunatly your people represent your corp and one of them just happens to be Anue Angellus. He was my main reason for posting this as he is one of the most annoying figures on the boards at this moment.
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![Nephilim Xeno Nephilim Xeno](/images/people/img12.png)
Nephilim Xeno
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Posted - 2004.04.17 09:23:00 -
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"neutral observer", eh ?
somehow i cannot believe that lol this posting here already removes your "neutrality"
at least we have enough proof now to say that you have no clue about what was/is really going on
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And by far the most amusing accusation, calling Xanadu backhanded for making a nap with CA, while at the same time asking CA to fight FA
Well fact is that on the old FA every pease proposal with CA was disrupted by Xanandu and BIG. They also had a lot of their "CA = evil pirates" propaganda all over the internal FA forums.
So they kick people out of fountain that were against fighting CA. And then suddently they make a NAP with CA ?
and you think there is nothing wrong here ? lol
so pls stay an OBSERVER and stop to post one sided stuff if you have no damn clue anyway
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![Kakalot Kakalot](/images/people/img8.png)
Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.04.17 09:55:00 -
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Edited by: Kakalot on 17/04/2004 09:57:22 Dear Extravagant You have made quite alot of assumption in your post. At least your thread's topic suggests so, but thanks for the edit tho.
I understand that this is your personal opinion on this matter. Therefore I wont build my view on your corp as a whole, which many ppl have failed to do (even if you dont have the disclaimer at the first place).
Democracy has its price, as for freedom of speech. The argument of "your people represent your corp" is false because not every corporation has the same principle of operating. Personally I think it's wrong to forbid a member from posting, he/she pays for the game just like everyone does. At least, he posts with his main.
Finally, if you find his post intolerable, pls skip it. I remember there was a time when ppl find Jade's posting were annoying. Same thing here. You just need to move on.
*Edit spelling.
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![Shirei Shirei](/images/people/img14.png)
Shirei
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Posted - 2004.04.17 10:00:00 -
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The HVI/Xan story was also a bit strange.
As far as I can remember, HVI complained that they were being attacked by the merc corp 'DeadWeight' (or a similar name, can't remember it exactly) a while before the coup. Their CEO said he had talked to someone from that corp, who had told him that another FA corp 'high up' had hired them. At the coup meeting, Xan then accused HVI of hiring that same merc corp to kill Xan and provided a log of a conversation between HVI's CEO and some people from that corp. However, the date on that log was (I think) later than the time when HVI was apparently already under attack by them and parts of the log implied that the merc corp was attacking HVI at the time, so it would seem kinda strange for someone to hire the people who are attacking you to do something. I think HVI discounted the log as their CEO asking in jest how much it would cost to have that merc corp attack whoever hired them instead or something like that.
Make of that what you will, you or anyone else for that matter are free to choose which side to believe.
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jigga
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Posted - 2004.04.17 10:13:00 -
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Quote: The HVI/Xan story was also a bit strange.
As far as I can remember, HVI complained that they were being attacked by the merc corp 'DeadWeight' (or a similar name, can't remember it exactly) a while before the coup. Their CEO said he had talked to someone from that corp, who had told him that another FA corp 'high up' had hired them. At the coup meeting, Xan then accused HVI of hiring that same merc corp to kill Xan and provided a log of a conversation between HVI's CEO and some people from that corp. However, the date on that log was (I think) later than the time when HVI was apparently already under attack by them and parts of the log implied that the merc corp was attacking HVI at the time, so it would seem kinda strange for someone to hire the people who are attacking you to do something. I think HVI discounted the log as their CEO asking in jest how much it would cost to have that merc corp attack whoever hired them instead or something like that.
Make of that what you will, you or anyone else for that matter are free to choose which side to believe.
Just some clarifications. We have never accused HVI of hiring DeadWeight to attack us nor have we been attacked by said corporation. We have never contracted this corporation to attack HVI and HVI has failed to provide any proof to back up their accusation other than because they say so. HVI and co. has accused Xanadu of many things, just look at any of the FA threads, and each time they failed to back up their accusations. It's just a smear campaign against Xanadu, plain and simple.
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![Shirei Shirei](/images/people/img6.png)
Shirei
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Posted - 2004.04.17 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Shirei on 17/04/2004 10:31:32 Ok, Xan accused HVI to have hired (or tried to hire) that corp to 'attack FA as a whole' and not Xan specifically, if that is more correct. ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif)
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![Masquerade Masquerade](/images/people/img10.png)
Masquerade
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Posted - 2004.04.17 11:17:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Shirei on 17/04/2004 10:31:32 Ok, Xan accused HVI to have hired (or tried to hire) that corp to 'attack FA as a whole' and not Xan specifically, if that is more correct. ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif)
HVI hired a merc. to attack FA and i think the NFA has the logs to back it up.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.04.17 11:29:00 -
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I understand that this is your personal opinion on this matter. Therefore I wont build my view on your corp as a whole, which many ppl have failed to do (even if you dont have the disclaimer at the first place).
Democracy has its price, as for freedom of speech. The argument of "your people represent your corp" is false because not every corporation has the same principle of operating. Personally I think it's wrong to forbid a member from posting, he/she pays for the game just like everyone does. At least, he posts with his main.
*Edit spelling.
Thank you for that mature post. It was very well put.
We welcome our members expressing their own views, as for the conflict in question, celes are neutral.. and wish the parties involved mucho PVP fun:). Or a swift resolve, whichever is wanted more.
Celes are a corp of individuals, each with different outlooks on EVE, each equel in our corp.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.17 13:34:00 -
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I've been in FA for a week or so now and there's been no sign of trouble.
The remaining FA corporations have been very professional during the troubled times and there's been hardly any interruption to our NPc hunting.
Even though it's a bit wierd to see 12-13 m0o in system and not feel threatened.....![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
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![Reverend Necrona Reverend Necrona](/images/people/img8.png)
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.04.17 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 17/04/2004 14:30:08 And so it begins, the last outpost shall be constructed, the remenant forces of the empires of the light ( NVA, SA and FA )will all come together and make a last stand against the on comming tide of darkness.
This post just clarified that oh and to the neutral observer please be aware this post is by no means neutral.
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![Alkad Mzu Alkad Mzu](/images/people/img4.png)
Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2004.04.17 14:44:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 17/04/2004 14:30:08 And so it begins, the last outpost shall be constructed, the remenant forces of the empires of the light ( NVA, SA and FA )will all come together and make a last stand against the on comming tide of darkness.
Very creative necro, however i'm afraid we're gonna have to disapoint you. I guess "the remnant forces of the empires of the light" will have to find another place to "make a last stand against the oncoming tide of darkness". We just wanna mine the place out and be left to enjoy our quafe ultra in the local pub.
Another time perhaps.
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![Reverend Necrona Reverend Necrona](/images/people/img16.png)
Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.04.17 14:53:00 -
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2004.04.17 14:57:00 -
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Whilst Hunting Xanadu with Aneu in Fountain we came accross Extravagant, wanting to know if we faced an enemy a friend or a nuetral I popped the question.
[ 2004.04.11 15:57:16 ] Cpt Pugwash > What is celests stance on the FA civil war? [ 2004.04.11 15:57:37 ] Extravagant > pro-Xanadu from what I can gather. [ 2004.04.11 15:57:47 ] Cpt Pugwash > thanks [ 2004.04.11 15:57:48 ] Aneu Angellus > damn [ 2004.04.11 15:57:58 ] Cpt Pugwash > least we know now [ 2004.04.11 16:00:55 ] Extravagant > Shadow wasnt to pleased with you shooting Xanadu.
I told you a little later that we did not wish to fight Celest only Xanadu. Which you twisted to mean we were at war with Celest.
Rather than firing we contacted Celest for clarification and were told they were nuetral.
Extravagant. I don't know why you are anti Revolution I don't care, I do care you brought us to the brink of an unwanted conflict and I do care when you make blatant false statements claimig you are a nuetral observer.
If you wish to fight us then update your clone and join Xanadu, or atleast have the decency to admit you were anti Revol long before you ever saw Revolution post on these forums
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Intukaki
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Posted - 2004.04.17 15:06:00 -
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Aneu did you enjoy your trip to empire to get a replacement ship?
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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2004.04.17 15:19:00 -
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Quote: Aneu did you enjoy your trip to empire to get a replacement ship?
WTF Aneu? you lost a ship? you must be a nublar ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Or was the overcoming of your skills such an achivement that these NFA 'boys' just can't help shouting about it every chance they get? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
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![Shamad Conde Shamad Conde](/images/people/img7.png)
Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.04.17 16:08:00 -
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Quote: Aneu did you enjoy your trip to empire to get a replacement ship?
WTF Aneu? you lost a ship? you must be a nublar ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Or was the overcoming of your skills such an achivement that these NFA 'boys' just can't help shouting about it every chance they get? ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif)
The only thing I have seen him skilled at is the speed he can post rubbish on the forum. Some r3v0lut10n guys at least had enough sense to be less vocal about their "achievements".
Going back to the topic. There is nothing wrong with being a neutral observant at the beginning of some event and changing one's position due to actions done by either of the party involved in the event.
No reason for r3v0lut10n to grieve over CELES's stance, surely the rebels have tons of allies coming to help them as it was announced numerous times.
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![Bogenhagen Bogenhagen](/images/people/img1.png)
Bogenhagen
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Posted - 2004.04.17 16:35:00 -
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We all know what Revol spreads...yeah I hate the stink too ![Mad](/images/icon_mad.gif)
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![Smacktastic Smacktastic](/images/people/img7.png)
Smacktastic
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Posted - 2004.04.17 17:42:00 -
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Celestrial Apocalyse should not talk about lies and deceit. Look at their standing and Huff Tech. standings. They are allies and they both like to camp gates.
Hypocrits.
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![Joshua Calvert Joshua Calvert](/images/people/img2.png)
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.17 17:43:00 -
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Celestrial Apocalyse should not talk about lies and deceit. Look at their standing and Huff Tech. standings. They are allies and they both like to camp gates.
Hypocrits.
Hypocrites.
You should read a dictionary to pass the time while docked.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.04.17 17:48:00 -
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Celestrial Apocalyse should not talk about lies and deceit. Look at their standing and Huff Tech. standings. They are allies and they both like to camp gates.
Hypocrits.
what part of "this is our members own views dont u get"??.. just because he is in our corp doesnt mean he speaks the corps tounge.
you trying to say everyone must fall in line and lose their individuality?..
We have good relations with both RevOl and Xanadu, and have Huff at standings -5.
Now leave us out of this.
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Smacktastic
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Posted - 2004.04.17 17:49:00 -
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It's called a typographical error. Intelligent people realize that those do happen, they don't dwell on it, Safespot.
PS. Why do you try to project your own fallacies on others? Are you some sort of a frustrated psychotic too? DS.
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Smacktastic
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Posted - 2004.04.17 17:51:00 -
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Now that was an ultra quick right click on standings there, dear CELES CEO, too bad that the Huff Tech CEO isen't that fast.
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.04.17 18:05:00 -
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Skillz, if u are really interested in the "huff situation with Celes" , huff wanted a NAP after they left F-E . They claimed to have left their pirating ways behind them and wanted to attack F-E. They joined Celes/Reikoku/DSIN and BNC forces v the RSA and F-E. Obviously to avoid friendly fire standing were changing accordingly. Huff fought bravely and with honour during this campaign.
It has dismayed us to learn that some of huff members are actively pirating in PF346 and therefore their standing has been changed accordingly. End of story.
Celes Kill Board
"Show them no mercy, for you will receive none"
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2004.04.17 18:16:00 -
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I'm sure both sides have valid points since no one is pure as the fresh fallen snow. But then no one from Xanadu had a hay-day in local making insulting remarks on...lets just say Sexual Orientation because if i go into it then the mods will neuter the posts again...
So at least XAnadu arenĘt haters, that has got to count for something. It does to me anyways.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.04.17 18:21:00 -
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Please keep the replies respectful and friendly. No need to start flaming, even if you avoid using certain words us mods do read the entire post.
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Smacktastic
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Posted - 2004.04.17 18:30:00 -
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Very well, we did break on of those Huff blockades in PF by fragging a raven, so yes, they did engage in those fun activities where you blow everyone away.
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![Aneu Angellus Aneu Angellus](/images/people/img1.png)
Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.04.17 19:57:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Extravagant on 17/04/2004 08:49:14 Greetings,
Lately I have been following the FA-soap as a neutral observer, I was even in Fountain on that particular saturday, and with great amusement I've been following the forum war surrounding it. I have made a few observations regarding rev0luti0n which I feel need to be highlighted.
Let's start with their constant accusations towards Xanadu. They claim Xanadu hired a mercenary corporation to attack HeartVenom Inc. in empire space. So far they have given us no proof apart from "I have spoken to their CEO and he told me that...". Secondly, they call Xanadu pirates, yet they encourage pirate corps such as SIM to ally with them to fight the Fountain Alliance. Weird logic innit? Thirdly, they claim Xanadu has been paying EVOL to help them out. But yet again, we are given no proof! And by far the most amusing accusation, calling Xanadu backhanded for making a nap with CA, while at the same time asking CA to fight FA.
Firstly i have no accused Xanadu nor anyone else of HIRING anyone to attack any NFA/FA members. Secondly... evolution are on the NFA's side weather they are being payed or not... simple yes? Finnaly Xanadu are INDEED helping/co-operating with m0o, are you blind enough to ignore the logs and pictures i have on my other thread?
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I cannot help but laugh at these mindless accusations not backed up with some form of proof. Where are the Teamspeak logs or the screenshots or whatever! Rev0luti0n, you are simply trying to stirr the situation and allying with every scumbag you can find in the hopes you will defeat FA.
Come up with proof or stop accusing FA of doing anything.
As i have said, if you read the other log, you will see a screanshot of m0o in y-2ano and a battle-report from core-fountain where a m0o vessel and a Hirr vessel both engage a rev0lution ship. ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Note: this rant does not represent the opinion of Celestial Apocalypse.
Ok so your rant doesnt respresent the oppinion of Celestial Apocalypse, yet you go onto say...
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EDIT: I am sure that rev0luti0n has many fine people, but unfortunatly your people represent your corp and one of them just happens to be Anue Angellus. He was my main reason for posting this as he is one of the most annoying figures on the boards at this moment.
Please dont try to contradict yourself in the future, it is most unbecoming of a Celest pilot, you are Anti-Pirate, you are Anti-m0o, the NFA are allies of m0o hence your enemies. If you denounce the role of Pirate Hunter and ally with the NFA then you are nothing more than pirates yourselfs.
Kind Regards Aneu Angellus ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Posted - 2004.04.17 20:18:00 -
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Hello Darth... I hear ya, altho most won't even read your post unless you are slinging mud But I read it and understand it....thanks for clarifying.
*f3ar teh Rev0luti0n*
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Smacktastic
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Posted - 2004.04.17 20:35:00 -
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Celes and m0o and the same enemy, that's the CA. The reasons for that are just crap. I can understand m0o's reason but not CELES reason.
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![Extravagant Extravagant](/images/people/img1.png)
Extravagant
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Posted - 2004.04.17 20:38:00 -
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Anue, you have come up with no direct proof whatsoever.
Screenshots of m0o in FA space, mean nothing. If I made a screenshot of myself in Curse space, would that make me allied with m0o?
I see discussion with you is pointless, as you are unwilling to admit you are a liar. I made my point clear and that's all.
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Posted - 2004.04.17 20:38:00 -
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Celes and m0o and the same enemy, that's the CA. The reasons for that are just crap. I can understand m0o's reason but not CELES reason.
Your name kinda says it all why we're still fighting them.
Oh and it'd be pretty hard to stop now that 5 CA corps have declared war on us (and we on 2 of them).
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Smacktastic
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Posted - 2004.04.17 20:39:00 -
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The thing is that you're frag hags and like to play this game like it was CounterStrike. Why don't you just admit it, just once?
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![Aneu Angellus Aneu Angellus](/images/people/img5.png)
Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.04.17 20:53:00 -
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Quote: Anue, you have come up with no direct proof whatsoever.
Screenshots of m0o in FA space, mean nothing. If I made a screenshot of myself in Curse space, would that make me allied with m0o?
I see discussion with you is pointless, as you are unwilling to admit you are a liar. I made my point clear and that's all.
You still need to read the chat logs, and the battle-report my friend...
Regards Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Extravagant
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Posted - 2004.04.17 20:57:00 -
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Quote: Anue, you have come up with no direct proof whatsoever.
Screenshots of m0o in FA space, mean nothing. If I made a screenshot of myself in Curse space, would that make me allied with m0o?
I see discussion with you is pointless, as you are unwilling to admit you are a liar. I made my point clear and that's all.
You still need to read the chat logs, and the battle-report my friend...
Regards Aneu
Once again, indirect proof.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.04.17 20:58:00 -
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Quote: Anue, you have come up with no direct proof whatsoever.
Screenshots of m0o in FA space, mean nothing. If I made a screenshot of myself in Curse space, would that make me allied with m0o?
I see discussion with you is pointless, as you are unwilling to admit you are a liar. I made my point clear and that's all.
You still need to read the chat logs, and the battle-report my friend...
Regards Aneu
Once again, indirect proof.
You are blinding yourself to the fact! You are meant to be a neutral party... yet you are blatantly showing your bias towards the NFA. I shall be speaking to a superiour within the Celest ranks about this.
Regards Aneu Angellus ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Extravagant
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Posted - 2004.04.17 21:00:00 -
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You are blinding yourself to the fact! You are meant to be a neutral party... yet you are blatantly showing your bias towards the NFA. I shall be speaking to a superiour within the Celest ranks about this.
Regards Aneu Angellus
Do as you wish. If you think you can scare me with your threats you are wrong. You are a nobody.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.04.17 21:04:00 -
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You are blinding yourself to the fact! You are meant to be a neutral party... yet you are blatantly showing your bias towards the NFA. I shall be speaking to a superiour within the Celest ranks about this.
Regards Aneu Angellus
I think you missed darth's post...
"We welcome our members expressing their own views, as for the conflict in question, celes are neutral.. and wish the parties involved mucho PVP fun:). Or a swift resolve, whichever is wanted more.
Celes are a corp of individuals, each with different outlooks on EVE, each equel in our corp."
This is what Extravagant thinks, not CELES as a whole, period. I haven't made my mind up completely but since we're neutral it doesn't matter.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.04.17 21:06:00 -
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anue im pretty sure you have talked to every one about this.
from what i can see Extravagant seems to have an actual clue about what is going on, and since you have opened this discussion up to every one by doing it through forum campaigns you are inviting opinion...but tbh it seems like Extravagant got the bias from your posts as he said he was limited time in fa STAN
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.04.17 21:16:00 -
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I have said all i want to say on the subject... NFA are now classed as pirates. End of discussion.
Regards Aneu Angellus ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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FZappa
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Posted - 2004.04.17 21:23:00 -
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Quote: I have said all i want to say on the subject... NFA are now classed as pirates. End of discussion.
Regards Aneu Angellus
i find this statement amusing since revol are currently home to old pak pirates .. wolver1n , a wannabe indi ganker , and i can name 2 more pirates who had nothing to do the last couple of months but gank indis incluing your own corpmates en route to fountain . -------------------------
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Posted - 2004.04.17 21:35:00 -
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Quote: I have said all i want to say on the subject... NFA are now classed as pirates. End of discussion.
Regards Aneu Angellus
Thats cool. Considering there is no NFA, they can't be pirates either.
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Posted - 2004.04.17 21:39:00 -
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Quote: I have said all i want to say on the subject... NFA are now classed as pirates. End of discussion.
Regards Aneu Angellus
Great now there's coffee all over my keyboard and the co-workers are looking at my weirdly as to why im laughing so loud..
thx ![Crying or Very sad](/images/icon_cry.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.17 21:40:00 -
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Quote: I have said all i want to say on the subject... NFA are now classed as pirates. End of discussion.
Regards Aneu Angellus
Thank lord, hopefully you for once will stick to what you said and stop trolling on the forum and did something of use with your friends.
Xanadu is aware of the opinions people express on the matter. Your opinion has been noted and recorded just like like everyone else's. You will have to live with the fact that there are not that many who share your views, it will sting, but you will get over it.
FA has become a more organized entity, if it's not been shown yet, it will come with time.
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Posted - 2004.04.17 21:47:00 -
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Now for the record, i dont get on with Aneu, i dislike him but i have to say, celes bloke - how can you overlook such proof? Indirectevidence? How exactly, you want him to post on the eve screenshots where pictures are not altered? I don't understand how a screenshot and a battle report of a combined attack of m0o and a NFA force attacking Rev0lution is indirect. I admire your cause and you as a corp. I admire what Celest stand for (despite being on the other side of the fence) but i must say i don't see how you can overlook this. This is going to go the way of the same relationship as CA and m0o. I somehow doubt however we'll ever see the Celest attacking the NFA. But let's just call that a hunch shall we ? :) Reverend Necrona |
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Posted - 2004.04.17 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 17/04/2004 22:07:41
Quote: Now for the record, i dont get on with Aneu, i dislike him but i have to say, celes bloke - how can you overlook such proof? Indirectevidence? How exactly, you want him to post on the eve screenshots where pictures are not altered? I don't understand how a screenshot and a battle report of a combined attack of m0o and a NFA force attacking Rev0lution is indirect. I admire your cause and you as a corp. I admire what Celest stand for (despite being on the other side of the fence) but i must say i don't see how you can overlook this. This is going to go the way of the same relationship as CA and m0o. I somehow doubt however we'll ever see the Celest attacking the NFA. But let's just call that a hunch shall we ? :)
/me faints... ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
Necro being nice to me! (well as far as nice goes with you )
(Sorry just had to reply, momentus occasion) ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Posted - 2004.04.17 22:13:00 -
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Quote: Now for the record, i dont get on with Aneu, i dislike him but i have to say, celes bloke - how can you overlook such proof? Indirectevidence? How exactly, you want him to post on the eve screenshots where pictures are not altered? I don't understand how a screenshot and a battle report of a combined attack of m0o and a NFA force attacking Rev0lution is indirect. I admire your cause and you as a corp. I admire what Celest stand for (despite being on the other side of the fence) but i must say i don't see how you can overlook this. This is going to go the way of the same relationship as CA and m0o. I somehow doubt however we'll ever see the Celest attacking the NFA. But let's just call that a hunch shall we ? :)
Let me make something clear with an example which was mentionde before, if EVOL are sitting in HLW-HP does that mean they are working with the CA?
Regarding the log I would like to say the overused "the enemy of the enemy is my friend". The hirr member made a choice, we were never informed of what happened afterwards. Even we in CELES have had this once, where we killed a pirate with the help of a CA member (Jazz Bo). Does that mean we are now allied or working with CA?
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Posted - 2004.04.17 22:54:00 -
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this is how rev0luti0n fight: 1. spam the boards 2. wipe our kill list (remo). 3. mess with our passport system and pirating corps they consider friends. Evidence -------------------------------------------
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Posted - 2004.04.17 23:12:00 -
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That's incorrect, you're the lowest for of player there is, the one that want's to follow the 'carebears', even Lenita got it up to her neck.
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Posted - 2004.04.17 23:20:00 -
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That's incorrect, you're the lowest for of player there is, the one that want's to follow the 'carebears', even Lenita got it up to her neck.
noobz, who r u talking to? -------------------------------------------
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Posted - 2004.04.17 23:46:00 -
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Why don't you respond to the allegation, instead?
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Posted - 2004.04.17 23:50:00 -
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what allegation? -------------------------------------------
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Posted - 2004.04.18 00:04:00 -
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That you're cheap pirate scum.
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Posted - 2004.04.18 00:31:00 -
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Aneu: have you ever concidered the fact that the reason why they dont oppose m0o being in their territory - because they dont need another war on their hands?
I bet i'm not the only one getting tired of this...
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Posted - 2004.04.18 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 18/04/2004 00:42:52
Quote: are you blind enough to ignore the logs and pictures i have on my other thread?
i am lazy, please give me teh linky!
Quote: Aneu: have you ever concidered the fact that the reason why they dont oppose m0o being in their territory - because they dont need another war on their hands?
well if thats true then "NFA" is WEAK!
But Hey... ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
"We brake for nobody"
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Posted - 2004.04.18 00:48:00 -
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It's the one they flamed over and over to get it locked I beleive... ______________________
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Posted - 2004.04.18 00:52:00 -
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Check it for yourself:- Here
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-------------------------------------------------------- <[SSC]Ronyo> m0o is not there <[SSC]Ronyo> none of our patrols have seen them <[SSC]Ronyo> and Y-2 is off limits <[FSR]*****> off limits? <[FSR]*****> why that? <[SSC]Ronyo> as in, don't go there <[SSC]Ronyo> because "m0o is not there" --------------------------------------------------------
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[ 2004.04.15 22:12:54 ] Sick Boy > Omniwar im waiting for the talks to end.... [ 2004.04.15 22:13:04 ] Sick Boy > so we know were we stand [ 2004.04.15 22:13:08 ] Lord Zap > Hey TornVagina why did u leave the meeting? [ 2004.04.15 22:14:13 ] BobGhengisKhan > words can hurt. [ 2004.04.15 22:18:44 ] Lord Zap > your ass will hurt after im finished with u bob [ 2004.04.15 22:19:03 ] Negotiator > /emote pets TWD [ 2004.04.15 22:19:09 ] TWD > nublar [ 2004.04.15 22:19:19 ] Negotiator > so [ 2004.04.15 22:19:28 ] Negotiator > still love you [ 2004.04.15 22:19:32 ] Negotiator > lots [ 2004.04.15 22:19:37 ] Negotiator > <3 [ 2004.04.15 22:19:37 ] TWD > cuz you are *** [ 2004.04.15 22:19:43 ] Negotiator > so [ 2004.04.15 22:19:57 ] Negotiator > 8===D ( .( ) [ 2004.04.15 22:20:06 ] TWD > damn [ 2004.04.15 22:20:09 ] Negotiator > me vs TWD [ 2004.04.15 22:20:20 ] TWD > no [ 2004.04.15 22:20:35 ] TWD > go play with teel [ 2004.04.15 22:20:42 ] Negotiator > no [ 2004.04.15 22:20:42 ] BobGhengisKhan > dont think i saw most of you people last time we werein fountain [ 2004.04.15 22:20:46 ] Negotiator > Teel is boring [ 2004.04.15 22:20:51 ] Negotiator > he doesnt resist :[ 2004.04.15 22:42:13 ] Kcel Chim > cya zap [ 2004.04.15 22:42:44 ] Sassinak > later guys [ 2004.04.15 22:43:00 ] RaYmOnD > later [ 2004.04.15 22:44:15 ] Jospef Rasputin > <Waves> [ 2004.04.15 22:44:42 ] chim > /emote waves to abominable [ 2004.04.15 22:46:15 ] Abominable > Hey chim :) [ 2004.04.15 22:48:19 ] Mortimer Zorg > later
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Posted - 2004.04.18 00:53:00 -
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Gamelog Listener: wolver1n Session started: 2004.04.16 18:28:58
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[ 2004.04.16 18:34:56 ] (notify) Interference from the warp Fully fitted krestal is preventing your sensors from getting a target lock on them. [ 2004.04.16 18:43:42 ] (notify) Tibor Ferenc [MOO] has started trying to warp scramble you. [ 2004.04.16 18:43:45 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Tachyon Beam Laser I places an excellent hit on Tibor Ferenc [MOO], inflicting 299.1 damage.
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Now onto the interesting bit...
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[ 2004.04.16 18:45:37 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Mjolnir Torpedo I hits Tibor Ferenc [MOO], doing 236.7 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:39 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Tibor Ferenc [MOO] barely scratches you, causing 32.3 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:40 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Tachyon Beam Laser I hits Tibor Ferenc [MOO], doing 180.8 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:42 ] (notify) Loading the Torpedo into the Missile Launcher; this will take approximately 10 seconds. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:43 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Modal Laser I is well aimed at Tibor Ferenc [MOO], inflicting 48.1 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:45 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Tibor Ferenc [MOO] aims well at you, inflicting 98.6 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:46 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Tibor Ferenc [MOO] places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 136.5 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:47 ] (notify) You cannot load or unload XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay while it is active. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:48 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Modal Laser I is well aimed at Tibor Ferenc [MOO], inflicting 69.0 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:50 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Tachyon Beam Laser I is well aimed at Tibor Ferenc [MOO], inflicting 207.7 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:54 ] (notify) Interference from the warp Thou Shall Be Smite is preventing your sensors from getting a target lock on them. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:10 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Paradise Cruise Missile I belonging to tom o hits you, doing 165.0 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:11 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Paradise Cruise Missile I belonging to tom o hits you, doing 165.0 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:12 ] (combat) Your Tachyon Beam Laser I misses tom o [HIRR] completely. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:17 ] (combat) Your Heavy Modal Laser I misses tom o [HIRR] completely. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:18 ] (notify) Loading the Torpedo into the Missile Launcher; this will take approximately 10 seconds. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:21 ] (combat) Your Tachyon Beam Laser I misses tom o [HIRR] completely. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:53 ] (notify) Loading the Torpedo into the Missile Launcher; this will take approximately 10 seconds. [ 2004.04.16 18:47:14 ] (notify) The stargate denies you permission to jump for the moment due to your recent acts of aggression. [ 2004.04.16 18:47:18 ] (notify) Stargate jump in progress. [ 2004.04.16 18:47:23 ] (notify) Stargate jump in progress. [ 2004.04.16 18:47:46 ] (None) Jumping to Stargate (IR-WT1) in E-BWUU solarsystem
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Posted - 2004.04.18 00:56:00 -
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well thank you for the fast reply...
"We brake for nobody"
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Posted - 2004.04.18 06:43:00 -
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Neat!
Holy Schnikes I have Wordpad on my computer too ![Idea](/images/icon_idea.gif)
Look at the system at the very bottom: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ 2004.04.16 18:45:37 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Mjolnir Torpedo I hits Tibor Ferenc [MOO], doing 236.7 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:39 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Tibor Ferenc [MOO] barely scratches you, causing 32.3 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:40 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Tachyon Beam Laser I hits Tibor Ferenc [MOO], doing 180.8 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:42 ] (notify) Loading the Torpedo into the Missile Launcher; this will take approximately 10 seconds. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:43 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Modal Laser I is well aimed at Tibor Ferenc [MOO], inflicting 48.1 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:45 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Tibor Ferenc [MOO] aims well at you, inflicting 98.6 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:46 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Tibor Ferenc [MOO] places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 136.5 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:47 ] (notify) You cannot load or unload XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay while it is active. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:48 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Heavy Modal Laser I is well aimed at Tibor Ferenc [MOO], inflicting 69.0 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:50 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Tachyon Beam Laser I is well aimed at Tibor Ferenc [MOO], inflicting 207.7 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:45:54 ] (notify) Interference from the warp Thou Shall Be Smite is preventing your sensors from getting a target lock on them. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:10 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Paradise Cruise Missile I belonging to tom o hits you, doing 165.0 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:11 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Paradise Cruise Missile I belonging to tom o hits you, doing 165.0 damage. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:12 ] (combat) Your Tachyon Beam Laser I misses tom o [HIRR] completely. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:17 ] (combat) Your Heavy Modal Laser I misses tom o [HIRR] completely. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:18 ] (notify) Loading the Torpedo into the Missile Launcher; this will take approximately 10 seconds. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:21 ] (combat) Your Tachyon Beam Laser I misses tom o [HIRR] completely. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:53 ] (notify) Loading the Torpedo into the Missile Launcher; this will take approximately 10 seconds. [ 2004.04.16 18:47:14 ] (notify) The stargate denies you permission to jump for the moment due to your recent acts of aggression. [ 2004.04.16 18:47:18 ] (notify) Stargate jump in progress. [ 2004.04.16 18:47:23 ] (notify) Stargate jump in progress. [ 2004.04.16 18:47:46 ] (None) Jumping to Stargate (Yulai) in Amarr solarsystem
Heh I could even change it hear posting it as your quote. One day when you finally leave the fifth grade(after three attempts) you will realize that you are "trolling" and "flamming" and actually have no just cause that you so passionatly believe you have.
Propaganda is a powerful machine, and so far you are a "nublar" at it. Since you like m0o so much Aneu, I will leave you with a quote from one their members: "End yourself".
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Posted - 2004.04.18 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 18/04/2004 07:24:45 Insane, its an actual log, unless you absolutely know its faked, please do not reply. [edited post, thought I was being harsh in my first response] ______________________
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Posted - 2004.04.18 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Cer'es on 18/04/2004 09:28:28 Edited by: Cer'es on 18/04/2004 09:27:37
Quote: I have said all i want to say on the subject... NFA are now classed as pirates. End of discussion.
Regards Aneu Angellus
well thats nice, so how about when Rev0l attacked 2 members from Juba corp last week who entereted fountain from Aridia to head to yz to collect some stuff from a hanger?
Lee N from Juba lost his ship from this unprovoked attack on them
When i quizzed TBone in local on why they attacked these guys? all i got was stupid replys, like
"we thought they were scouts"
ok spies in battleships? the guy who lost his ship Lee N who was in Juba for like 2 months and is the industry Manager
Juba who have no allegance to FA
The the reply i get from Mr TBone in locaL which i loved was
"Shows you that you cant protect fountain"
ofcourse u cant protect something 24/7, but it also shows rev0l are going to the lenghs of being pirates to keep there fight against FA (not NFA)
EDIT: spelling mistake* ------------------------------ .Flamenco Haggis. Once a pround member of Xanadu Member of Mercury and Solace [MACE] Currently proud member of ATUK Mon then ya bas!!! |
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Edited by: Tassadar Beta on 18/04/2004 10:13:37 Xanadu, Xanadu, Xanadu....why do all the posts seem to think theres only Xanadu? Xanadu are part of the Fountain Alliance (FA not NFA). And I can only laugh at all these accusations thrown at them and the FA.
When several corps were chucked out I could understand but I was surprised, and several people went from in my eyes anyway respectable ppl to PR wannabes who lie or greatly exagerate storys. Now by no means is the FA whiter than white, we have made mistakes before and we probaly will in the future. But I dont see the point in people making accusations which they have probaly heard only through word of mouth with little or no proof, other than someone more than likely making it up.
And all this does is breed hate and anger among everyone, indeed Xanadu are powerful and a corp that I respect and admire and I can honestly say they arent involved in these things and if they were it would have been the FA as a whole.
So stop flaming people, stop posting chat logs that mean absolutely nothing (and can be forged easily ditto with screenies), stop making accusations no-one can prove, dont flame or smack talk in local and finally lets just get ingame with a few beers and take it out on our ships.
There is no need to breed anger and hate at people who could easily become your friends in real life.
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Quote: Edited by: Tassadar Beta on 18/04/2004 10:13:37 Xanadu, Xanadu, Xanadu....why do all the posts seem to think theres only Xanadu? Xanadu are part of the Fountain Alliance (FA not NFA). And I can only laugh at all these accusations thrown at them and the FA.
No matter what you say, Xanadu was behind this whole throwing over of the FA. Funny how a few of the corps that got to stay in the New FA (NFA)were sponsered by guess who? Xanadu. Looks like it was planned for some time to me.
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When several corps were chucked out I could understand but I was surprised, and several people went from in my eyes anyway respectable ppl to PR wannabes who lie or greatly exagerate storys. Now by no means is the FA whiter than white, we have made mistakes before and we probaly will in the future. But I dont see the point in people making accusations which they have probaly heard only through word of mouth with little or no proof, other than someone more than likely making it up.
Reading this whole thread I still can't see why these corps that were kicked were deemed "non-productive" in the first place. I know for a fact that CME was in fact productive. What gave Xanadu, and the other corps involved in this Coup, the right to decide who stayed and who went. That was for the council to decide.
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And all this does is breed hate and anger among everyone, indeed Xanadu are powerful and a corp that I respect and admire and I can honestly say they arent involved in these things and if they were it would have been the FA as a whole.
Of course it breeds anger.How could it possibly not, I was shocked and ****ed to all hell that My corp got kicked when we did everything we could to help the alliance. There was no reason at all for CME to be kicked. Guess we were a threat to the NFA. Who knows
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So stop flaming people, stop posting chat logs that mean absolutely nothing (and can be forged easily ditto with screenies), stop making accusations no-one can prove, dont flame or smack talk in local and finally lets just get ingame with a few beers and take it out on our ships.
There is no need to breed anger and hate at people who could easily become your friends in real life.
I can agree with you here. This is, after all, a game and I for one am just here to have a good time. But what Xanadu and company did was just plain wrong and it could have been handled a lot better imo. I can tell you from my experiances so far in Revolution that these are a great bunch to be around (Even Aneu! ) and we are not pirates at all. We just don't appreciate Megacorps/Alliances telling us that we are not good enough to be around them and we will be a thorn in the NFA's side for some time to come
VIVA REVOLUTION !!! ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif) ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif) ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.18 11:59:00 -
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No matter what you say, Xanadu was behind this whole throwing over of the FA. Funny how a few of the corps that got to stay in the New FA (NFA)were sponsered by guess who? Xanadu. Looks like it was planned for some time to me.
No matter what you say, Xanadu was by no means behind the adjustments made to FA alone. They were not acting on their own behalf. Nor were their part in it any more or any less instrumental than any of the other corporations that stayed behind.
I do understand that it must be convenient to direct your frustrations towards the biggest target, but that doesn't change the fact that a majority of FA wanted this change, and made it happen by planning and working together as a team.
You're saying that it looks to you that this was planned for some time, in reply to that I can only say: Ofcourse it was. This is not something you do in the heat of the moment. But I'm a bit curious as to how long time you think this was planned for :-)
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Reading this whole thread I still can't see why these corps that were kicked were deemed "non-productive" in the first place. I know for a fact that CME was in fact productive. What gave Xanadu, and the other corps involved in this Coup, the right to decide who stayed and who went. That was for the council to decide.
I don't really see a point in going into details on what lead to the departure of specific corporations, it'll only serve to further heat the discussion.
I do however find it interesting that you speak of "rights" in this, as if we would need some higher legal or moral authority to sanction our actions. We don't need that. We did what we did because we deemed it necessary for the future well-being of FA, and when realising the necessity we took action because we could.
If you'll allow me an analogy, gameplay doesn't require of you a "right" to say gank indies at the D4AKU gate. What the FA did is gameplay too, if on a somewhat higher level.
Now, one could ofcourse discuss at length whether or not our actions were in fact legally and morally justifiable in a RP context, but to be honest, the concept bores me. :-)
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Of course it breeds anger.How could it possibly not, I was shocked and ****ed to all hell that My corp got kicked when we did everything we could to help the alliance. There was no reason at all for CME to be kicked. Guess we were a threat to the NFA. Who knows
And you have every reason to be angry, no one would expect anything less. I think the origin of this thread comes from a certain frustration over how some people project their anger however, not over the anger itself ;-)
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We just don't appreciate Megacorps/Alliances telling us that we are not good enough to be around them and we will be a thorn in the NFA's side for some time to come
Which is completely understandable, I can honestly tell you I'd blow a fuse or two if I had found myself at the wrong end of the corp list last saturday. But let's sweat it out in our ships shall we, as has already been suggested several times in this thread :-)
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Quote: [ 2004.04.16 18:45:54 ] (notify) Interference from the warp Thou Shall Be Smite is preventing your sensors from getting a target lock on them. [ 2004.04.16 18:46:10 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Paradise Cruise Missile I belonging to tom o hits you, doing 165.0 damage.
this looks like tibor warped out and tom o warped in or jumped in to me since tom o isn't in the log before that.
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@ Alkad Mzu The whole thing was planned before or around the day I (as a PAK pilot) saw your 10+ battleships[hirr] arrive at Aridia. We were organizing a little frigate tournament and you lot camped the gate to grief us with all that many battleships :P
That's my conspiracy theory :)
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Posted - 2004.04.18 16:19:00 -
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Kakalot, that was planned, they were intending to disrupt the frigate tournament, I read the forum post on the director board despite Sarah asking nicely for it to be held.
I am still quite astonishment at the repeated statements stating that everything is just "Fine and Dandy" within the NFA organization. To this date, one corp has completely left the alliance after the coup attempt. Many members of the NFA's corps have left due to the disagreement of the NFA's move. I also have many folks within the NFA's organization that continually feed me with intelligence.
Also, a massive corp theft within the Xanadu organization tells me things are not as wonderfully rosy either.
Despite the NFA's statements to the opposite, things are not quite right within the organization.
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Posted - 2004.04.18 16:38:00 -
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Quote: Kakalot, that was planned, they were intending to disrupt the frigate tournament, I read the forum post on the director board despite Sarah asking nicely for it to be held.
You expect the Fountain Alliance to allow a corp that has been pirating them for months in their space with a frig tournament?
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I am still quite astonishment at the repeated statements stating that everything is just "Fine and Dandy" within the NFA organization. To this date, one corp has completely left the alliance after the coup attempt. Many members of the NFA's corps have left due to the disagreement of the NFA's move. I also have many folks within the NFA's organization that continually feed me with intelligence.
Also, a massive corp theft within the Xanadu organization tells me things are not as wonderfully rosy either.
Despite the NFA's statements to the opposite, things are not quite right within the organization.
I can't help but laugh when you first come up with this and then you proceed with the following statement.
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Kudos to all who can see through the propaganda and the very apparent about face of what Fountain stood for.
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Posted - 2004.04.18 16:44:00 -
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Hey Bizzar IMHO I think you should change the text in your siggy a lil bit .. something along the line of "Combat is like ...." in general. But then all the safespots, chat spam and five fingers stroking dont apply ![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
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Quote: Hey Bizzar IMHO I think you should change the text in your siggy a lil bit .. something along the line of "Combat is like ...." in general. But then all the safespots, chat spam and five fingers stroking dont apply ![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.18 17:02:00 -
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My bad ![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif) May I ask who is that able commander ![Question](/images/icon_question.gif)
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Quote: My bad ![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif) May I ask who is that able commander ![Question](/images/icon_question.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.18 17:12:00 -
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Okie. Thanks for your time :P
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Posted - 2004.04.18 17:36:00 -
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Bizzare, no I don't, matter of fact I encouraged them to attack PAK if I remember correctly. Kakalot asked the question, I answered.
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Posted - 2004.04.19 01:37:00 -
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I dont really have anything to say on this matter, I just wanted to bookmark where I left off reading.
Oh..on the pirate issue, well I kinda believe that everyone has a little pirate locked away inside them, just too afraid to let it out![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.19 05:53:00 -
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Quote: i find this statement amusing since revol are currently home to old pak pirates .. wolver1n , a wannabe indi ganker , and i can name 2 more pirates who had nothing to do the last couple of months but gank indis incluing your own corpmates en route to fountain .
Thats right...I fought these guys, chased them, and they have earned 10 fold the respect of their current corpmates than any member of the NFA. They are good people who seen thru the old FA fog, that I couldn't till recent. I am happy to have these folks as my corpmates...and would choose them anyday over being partnered with the NFA members. I only wish I would have done this sooner....
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Posted - 2004.04.19 06:52:00 -
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I've only read the opening post, and that's what i'm replying to.
Quote: So far they have given us no proof apart from "I have spoken to their CEO and he told me that...". Secondly, they call Xanadu pirates, yet they encourage pirate corps such as SIM to ally with them to fight the Fountain Alliance.
I'm going to explain this once, and only once for you, so listen closely.
The Enemy Of Our Enemy Is Our Friend. Ok?
Calling US pirates? Coming from CELES that's laughable. Now, Givin' we've worked with pirates in the past, and operated in syndicate against Any FA traffic, but plz.. Outright pirates? I think not.
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Quote: I'm going to explain this once, and only once for you, so listen closely.
The Enemy Of Our Enemy Is Our Friend. Ok?
Calling US pirates? Coming from CELES that's laughable. Now, Givin' we've worked with pirates in the past, and operated in syndicate against Any FA traffic, but plz.. Outright pirates? I think not.
Yet your buddies in rev0l class FA as pirates because they had m0o in FA space? The enemy of our enemy is our friend right?
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Posted - 2004.04.19 11:48:00 -
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Thats right...I fought these guys, chased them, and they have earned 10 fold the respect of their current corpmates than any member of the NFA. They are good people who seen thru the old FA fog, that I couldn't till recent. I am happy to have these folks as my corpmates...and would choose them anyday over being partnered with the NFA members. I only wish I would have done this sooner....
PAK were pirate because thats what they chose to be , pirates . regardless of FA or not . whatever remains of pak are still pirates . your corp contains known pirates , however you try to spin it .
im surprised my old corp mates are willing to be in the same corp such individuals , knowing full well they have no intention of reforming . this whole issue seems to have been flooded with immaturity and forum trolling by revol and thus far does not seem to support your case against FA .
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Posted - 2004.04.19 13:51:00 -
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Very well, classify Rev0lution as a bunch of pirates that have a fond taste for NFA ships.
I really dont give a crap what you think honestly. It changes nothing.
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Posted - 2004.04.19 13:59:00 -
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Quote: NFA ships.
'FA' its our name get used to it
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Posted - 2004.04.19 14:35:00 -
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NFA. =) Neener! ______________________
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Posted - 2004.04.19 17:35:00 -
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Quote:
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Thats right...I fought these guys, chased them, and they have earned 10 fold the respect of their current corpmates than any member of the NFA. They are good people who seen thru the old FA fog, that I couldn't till recent. I am happy to have these folks as my corpmates...and would choose them anyday over being partnered with the NFA members. I only wish I would have done this sooner....
PAK were pirate because thats what they chose to be , pirates . regardless of FA or not . whatever remains of pak are still pirates . your corp contains known pirates , however you try to spin it .
im surprised my old corp mates are willing to be in the same corp such individuals , knowing full well they have no intention of reforming . this whole issue seems to have been flooded with immaturity and forum trolling by revol and thus far does not seem to support your case against FA .
NFA has known 'former' pirates in it's corps, What makes your 'former' pirates any more reformed than ours?
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Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 18:32:18 Nice to see CFI corpmates like FZappa and qrac who never participated in military ops be SO BOLD on the forums, supporting XAN and BIG cleary the most benevolent honest and democracy loving organizations (j/k).
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Edited by: Maul555 on 19/04/2004 18:14:10 Im starting to wonder why I even read these threads anymore. All you people do is go in circles all day....
Quote: Lee N from Juba lost his ship from this unprovoked attack on them
When i quizzed TBone in local on why they attacked these guys? all i got was stupid replys, like
"we thought they were scouts"
Oh, and btw, im seeing to it personaly that Lee N gets his corpse back.. you know, the one that was ejected from tbones megathron when FA blew it all to hell. ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.19 18:15:00 -
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The NFA topic is is crazy. All this smack talking is crazy. Lets all kiss and make up. So lets stop the posts on FA, then again, I think Ill stop reading the forums again, as there is nothing but drivel on it. (I know this is proberly drivel, but has to be said).
*Note: Xanadu, please call off your lapdogs (Evol), as they seem to be following my corp round. We left NFA gracefully and placed a polite announcement, but it had to be spoiled. Hell we even helped defend gates, even after we decided to leave. ---------------------------------------------
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Quote: Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 18:32:18 Nice to see CFI corpmates like FZappa and qrac who never participated in military ops be SO BOLD on the forums, supporting XAN and BIG cleary the most benevolent honest and democracy loving organizations (j/k).
CFI = Carebears of Fountain Inc. Always has been. I hope you will grow some b*lls in the future. Until then just be quiet and let those who want to fight, fight.
Hipocrite.
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Posted - 2004.04.19 18:50:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Kakalot, that was planned, they were intending to disrupt the frigate tournament, I read the forum post on the director board despite Sarah asking nicely for it to be held.
You expect the Fountain Alliance to allow a corp that has been pirating them for months in their space with a frig tournament?
Actually, PAK had been given permission to hold the tournament by the Head Marshall from FA. The subject was due to be discussed at FA Council the same night as the tournament and at least one corp from FA was actually preparing to field a team, however another vote in the council which decided that FA would make no agreements of any sorts with corps they considered to be pirates (the vote resulted from a NAP my corp had with PAK outside FA controlled space), made a vote on the tournament moot anyway.
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Posted - 2004.04.19 19:09:00 -
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Shamad Conde, you know where to find me. And I wont be mining. And learn to spell.
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Quote: Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 18:32:18 Nice to see CFI corpmates like FZappa and qrac who never participated in military ops be SO BOLD on the forums, supporting XAN and BIG cleary the most benevolent honest and democracy loving organizations (j/k).
CFI = Carebears of Fountain Inc. Always has been. I hope you will grow some b*lls in the future. Until then just be quiet and let those who want to fight, fight.
Well at least we make the money to replace our ships, unlike u guys, lose one ship takes u a week 2 mine/come up with a new one.....U will be seeing me up there alot more, since there is nothing left for me to kill in empire, i need new prey ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.19 19:38:00 -
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It takes us way longer than 2 weeks to replace a ship, more like 4 months.
If you come up here, we'll only be able to fight you in ibis's.
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Posted - 2004.04.19 19:41:00 -
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Quote: It takes us way longer than 2 weeks to replace a ship, more like 4 months.
If you come up here, we'll only be able to fight you in ibis's.
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:51:00 -
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Please keep all replies respectful, troll and flame-free
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Posted - 2004.04.19 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: FZappa on 19/04/2004 21:09:29
Quote: Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 18:32:18 Nice to see CFI corpmates like FZappa and qrac who never participated in military ops be SO BOLD on the forums, supporting XAN and BIG cleary the most benevolent honest and democracy loving organizations (j/k).
CFI = Carebears of Fountain Inc. Always has been. I hope you will grow some b*lls in the future. Until then just be quiet and let those who want to fight, fight.
you have very short , or very selective memory lentia . ive done my share of brain numbing gate camping in fountain to last me a life time . the fact that some of us prefer to train one char, which happens to be an industrial/science, rather then suicide a caracal alt over and over again does not make us any less willing to fight then you.
personally im not a fighting char , but id pit you against qrac any day of the week and i think we both know who will come out of it in one piece .
i did not say i support XAN or BIG . i adapt to changes to the enviroment where i do my business . the isk must flow! ![Cool](/images/icon_cool.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.19 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 19/04/2004 21:12:29 Hey maul,
tbones megathron didnt just get blown to hell. I still have pieces of it in my sandwich, you may want to check yours. =) ______________________
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Posted - 2004.04.19 21:49:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 18:32:18 Nice to see CFI corpmates like FZappa and qrac who never participated in military ops be SO BOLD on the forums, supporting XAN and BIG cleary the most benevolent honest and democracy loving organizations (j/k).
CFI = Carebears of Fountain Inc. Always has been. I hope you will grow some b*lls in the future. Until then just be quiet and let those who want to fight, fight.
u must be brainwashed! i've never participated in military ops? lol your lying so much that you're starting to beleive your own lies!
btw. what did u do when i saw u? 1. fight me? 2. run away?
i'll answer it for u.. it's alternative 2.
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Posted - 2004.04.19 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 21:53:51 FZAP, Well at least things are getting interesting. And youre right, qrac would probably own me ten times over. ![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
But I still am doing what I think is right! Maybe you dont understand it or agree with it, but that is my motivation. And I will continue to resist the current powers that be, until my last ISK is drained (which maybe fairly soon if qrac keeps on finding my hidden ships...Grrr!)![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif)
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Quote: Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 21:53:51 FZAP, Well at least things are getting interesting. And youre right, qrac would probably own me ten times over. ![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
But I still am doing what I think is right! Maybe you dont understand it or agree with it, but that is my motivation. And I will continue to resist the current powers that be, until my last ISK is drained (which maybe fairly soon if qrac keeps on finding my hidden ships...Grrr!)![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif)
Hmm, I never ran from u! If youre talking bout my bb in Z3 it was unmanned. HINT: if you see a ships but thier name is not in local = unmanned. hehe
it wasn't me who found it hehe
but that day was pretty nice with donations from rev0l and hvi :) the hvi donation was extremely nice ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) -------------------------------------------
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Edited by: Lentia on 19/04/2004 22:06:46 OK qrac, its on! Meet me at the Sun in D4!
BTW, Sorry Extravagant for hijacking your thread, but your post was really quite silly to begin with. This is much more fun!
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Posted - 2004.04.20 02:38:00 -
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So what's actually going on in Fountain? Are revolution winning these engagements against the (N)FA? Or what? Reverend Necrona |
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Posted - 2004.04.20 03:00:00 -
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not a whole lot happening actually. Some fights, but a pretty low level conflict atm.
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Posted - 2004.04.20 03:01:00 -
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ahem... What engagements ? *yawn*
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Posted - 2004.04.20 03:13:00 -
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Not much major fighting because of everyone is outblobing each other. ![Neutral](/images/icon_neutral.gif) We dont fight you when you outnumber us 2 to 1 and vice versa. So that's that. Dont blame us only ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.20 04:23:00 -
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muad your sleeping when most of us are on. Did I just detect meaniness from you? *Cries*
The NFA has a vast pool of assets while we have to fight where we can. We fight on our terms, and you obviously do the same and there is nothing wrong with that.
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Posted - 2004.04.20 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona So what's actually going on in Fountain? Are revolution winning these engagements against the (N)FA? Or what?
lol yeah, imagine that.
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Edited by: Muaddid on 20/04/2004 05:04:20
Originally by: Aerick Dawn muad your sleeping when most of us are on. Did I just detect meaniness from you? *Cries*
Erm im one of the north american player of FA which is mostly european... and stilll night after night im playing Lineage2 as nothing happens. As I type this I'm sitting in D4KU-5 waiting for anything to happen yet all that happens is endless numbers of npcs being blown up. ![Neutral](/images/icon_neutral.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.20 07:35:00 -
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6 weeks Muad, then I am unemployed and will join you in your late night adventures. ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
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Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 20/04/2004 15:39:00 Strange Muad,
We got 2 of your guys last night basically around the area. (Lord Kermit, Scorpion - Crumeth, Tempest).
I dont really want to credit the 3rd bs to us (apoc downed from ebil sentries) since thats sort of a darwinian endeavour. Where the heck were you? =)
Trying not to brag here, you guys and girls drill us hard too.
Anyhow, I'd just like to say thanks for the friendly banter in local almost every day from everyone, I'd like to specifically include chim in the list, you are always the coolest. =)
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Posted - 2004.04.20 17:40:00 -
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Yeh it does get quite tiresome in D4KU, when an equall NFA fleet is in system and they have to wait for atleast double the amount of ships to attack.
Basically we have been making strategical strikes against targets that would optimise our damage. Aswell as making sure us and our allies are safe, just last night me and Pug intercepted 3 Xanadu chasing 1 ally of ours, who was badly hurt, with no armour. (in a corp at war with Xanadu) so we decided we would help him escape and so we did , Was quite ammusing to see Sarkone, and Overload chase after him (sorry cant rememmber the raven pilot). Although he did escape... was quite a rush lol...
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Edited by: Sarkone on 20/04/2004 17:57:53 Edited by: Sarkone on 20/04/2004 17:52:06 erm you didnt help him at all since he was at a safespot anyways .... and if he hadnt logged out id have caught him 2 jumps later .... and after 2h of sitting there i got bored of scanning the gate every few secs ;p
btw it was quite refreshing to see any rev0l BS again :p
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Originally by: Sarkone Edited by: Sarkone on 20/04/2004 17:52:06 erm you didnt help him at all since he was at a safespot anyways .... and if he hadnt logged out id have caught him 2 jumps later ....
btw it was quite refreshing to see any rev0l BS again :p
Actually... i was keeping you and overload enterainted while Cpt Pugwash checked the gate he was going out of. Then he warped to the gate and got away fancy free. So... us not helping isnt entirley true...
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Posted - 2004.04.20 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Actually... i was keeping you and overload enterainted while Cpt Pugwash checked the gate he was going out of. Then he warped to the gate and got away fancy free. So... us not helping isnt entirley true...
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Posted - 2004.04.20 20:46:00 -
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How many warp cores did you have on your scorp Bizarre?
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Posted - 2004.04.20 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kakalot How many warp cores did you have on your scorp Bizarre?
More then enough. Read Sun Tzu once in a while, might give you a clue. -------------------------------------------------
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Posted - 2004.04.20 21:10:00 -
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Lemme guess, 4x warp cores. That rocks!
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Posted - 2004.04.20 21:15:00 -
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Bizarre, can I point something out...
You made light of us because we didn't engage you, and then you tell us to read Sun Tzu.
I've read it 500 times. Perhaps you missed a chapter pally? :)
I am selling clues, bizarre, make me rich buddy. :)
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Posted - 2004.04.20 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Aerick Dawn Bizarre, can I point something out...
You made light of us because we didn't engage you, and then you tell us to read Sun Tzu.
I've read it 500 times. Perhaps you missed a chapter pally? :)
I am selling clues, bizarre, make me rich buddy. :)
Sun Tzu is massively overrated. Can't see why anyone would need captain obvious from centuries past giving them advice.
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Posted - 2004.04.20 21:26:00 -
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hmmm, I am going to have to disagree here. You can apply that book not just to war, but to many things in life as well.
If you can point out why it's overrated, I may understand your point. Otherwise, follow the advice in your sig.
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Posted - 2004.04.20 21:26:00 -
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He's the most brilliant known general in the world history. Now Ranya have a cookie and get yourself a memory implant to remember that :P
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Posted - 2004.04.20 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aerick Dawn hmmm, I am going to have to disagree here. You can apply that book not just to war, but to many things in life as well.
If you can point out why it's overrated, I may understand your point. Otherwise, follow the advice in your sig.
What the Art of War teaches should be first hand nature to anyone who intends to succeed as a leader. Reading the Art of War, you might learn the basic of leadership and tactic, and the applied logic to these fields. It will not make you a great general. It will at best, give you an advantage over people who have not read it and are unable to otherwise teach themselves.
Sun Tzu had a lot of common sense and agreed, common sense isn't allways as common as you'd believe. It is however wrong to credit Sun Tzu as the inventor of common sense or any such thing, and it is wrong to classify Sun Tzu or his book as brilliant.
Basically, lets do an applied equation. To be a great leader, you will have to do better than what Sun Tzu can teach you. The Art of War is to be considered general knowledge, knowing your AoW will thus not make you great just one of the flock. To go above the AoW teachings you will have to gather information elsewhere or learn by yourself, and if you are able to do this, you are definitely able to do the same with the more elementary teachings you find in the AoW, thus making it redundant already.
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Posted - 2004.04.21 04:27:00 -
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Its official
the only thing left to shoot are Lester Mako's cans ![Neutral](/images/icon_neutral.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.21 04:53:00 -
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Book of Five Rings > The Art of War
Learn it, love it, and embrace Emptiness.
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Posted - 2004.04.21 05:40:00 -
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Didn't you like the 7-2 odds after that screen shot? ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.21 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kakalot on 21/04/2004 20:58:00
Originally by: Muaddid Its official
the only thing left to shoot are Lester Mako's cans ![Neutral](/images/icon_neutral.gif)
ROFL Yea, its official, REALLY!! ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) You cant take a joke eh? ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
Tonight Kill Counts: Name ShipType Podded KilledBy
[BIG]Dirk Daring Vigil True Kakalot's Interceptor(1v2) :) [BIG]Vaio Blackbird True Kakalot's Interceptor(1v1) :) [XAN]Elistan Megathron True Kakalot's Interceptor(1v1) :)) [Big]Lore Star Blackbird True Kakalot + ZUDD Interceptors [XAN]Neplite Stiletto? False Kakalot's Interceptor(1v4) ;( [JAZZ]China Doll Thorax True Lentia Lite + Species8472 [???]???? Megathron ???? ZUDD + Species8472 Will check with Species for the name of the pilot in the mega he killed. We lost: ZUDD's Interceptor Kakalot's Interceptor (me) ![Crying or Very sad](/images/icon_cry.gif) Lentia Lite's Caracal Jacensolo's Blackbird
It was a fun gaming night. Except for the pilots got podded ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
Edit: Jacen + Dirk kill Everyone is welcome to correct my post (I forget things fast). Thanks Anyhow, that's the score for 1 fun gaming night. This post ends here.
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Posted - 2004.04.21 08:20:00 -
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Yes it was.. even though the anti-fountain forces lost quite a bit more than what you listed there Kaka ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.21 08:41:00 -
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I wasn't part of a battle tonight, but ran across a Revol Kestrel while heading to Aridia. I popped a shot and he left through the gate...then I jumped through and he's sitting on the other side. I lock him and he fires on me (I'm in a Typhoon), well 2 paradises later he's in a pod...he left before I could oblige him with a clone ride to empire.
Massive...guy you have cajones for taking on a Typhoon 1vs1 in a Kestrel.
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Posted - 2004.04.21 09:51:00 -
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Well, I just got jumped by a HVI member and a Corp 1 member while streaming in a belt. Luckily for me the Corp 1 guy CTD and I was able to get my drones out and do some damage to the scorpion of the HVI guy. According to him, HVI has officially joined the pirate community. Here's some chatlog goodies from the encounter...
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Channelname: Local Listener: DeepThought Session started: 2004.04.21 01:04:12
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[ 2004.04.21 07:34:27 ] DeepThought > can i help you fret? [ 2004.04.21 07:35:40 ] DeepThought > i didn't realize HVI went pirate [ 2004.04.21 07:39:26 ] Fret > sorry about that DT [ 2004.04.21 07:41:00 ] Fret > you there? [ 2004.04.21 08:09:29 ] DeepThought > uh, do me a favor and stay at least 20k from me please?
here's where he starts scrambling me, and his buddy Gafal warps in. Gafal crashes, and we duke it out till Fret warps out.
[ 2004.04.21 08:13:47 ] DeepThought > where'd you go? [ 2004.04.21 08:14:01 ] Fret > dead [ 2004.04.21 08:14:18 ] DeepThought > ??? your buddy even showed up to help. what happened? [ 2004.04.21 08:15:53 ] Fret > he ctd'd [ 2004.04.21 08:15:58 ] Fret > and I died [ 2004.04.21 08:16:11 ] Fret > **** can happen right? [ 2004.04.21 08:16:30 ] DeepThought > well man, it was a good fight. kinda figured it was gonna happen. good try at social engineering though [ 2004.04.21 08:16:52 ] Fret > why thank you [ 2004.04.21 08:17:06 ] Fret > and you've just gained a ****load of respect from me for even knowing that term :) [ 2004.04.21 08:17:25 ] DeepThought > it's my job, so to speak [ 2004.04.21 08:17:36 ] Fret > and yes, it was a good fight snip some employment related chatter
[ 2004.04.21 08:20:48 ] DeepThought > hmm, would you mind pasting the kill mail... i don't see your container here in the belt [ 2004.04.21 08:21:12 ] DeepThought > methinks you got out [ 2004.04.21 08:21:18 ] Fret > hehe, it was a lie, I didn't die [ 2004.04.21 08:21:26 ] Fret > I did get out [ 2004.04.21 08:21:39 ] Fret > I will never get caught dead...ummm...dead....in my own plot [ 2004.04.21 08:23:06 ] DeepThought > yeah well, nothing ventured nothing gained. perhaps next time you'll have better luck
snip a bit of drone stuff
[ 2004.04.21 08:27:55 ] DeepThought > so has HVI officially gone dark side [ 2004.04.21 08:27:58 ] DeepThought > ? [ 2004.04.21 08:28:48 ] Fret > ya [ 2004.04.21 08:28:53 ] Fret > well... [ 2004.04.21 08:28:59 ] Fret > ya [ 2004.04.21 08:29:59 ] DeepThought > shouldn't you be out in fountain doing in Xan? Or did that work out not in your favor? [ 2004.04.21 08:30:18 ] Fret > it worked out great [ 2004.04.21 08:30:35 ] Fret > but Rev0l got so ****ed at XAN that they started to take them out like no other could [ 2004.04.21 08:30:50 ] Fret > so there's no need for us in there at this time [ 2004.04.21 08:31:07 ] Fret > and since we're no longer FA... [ 2004.04.21 08:31:14 ] Fret > we can make money our own way now [ 2004.04.21 08:31:21 ] Fret > and no one can do a damn thing about it [ 2004.04.21 08:32:54 ] DeepThought > so how were you going to make money off me? I don't have anything of any real value. [ 2004.04.21 08:34:26 ] Fret > and even if you died...sell you items and make some cash [ 2004.04.21 08:34:38 ] Fret > it all goes to the corp, to get as many of our members in BS's as possible [ 2004.04.21 08:34:46 ] Fret > so we can become more and more powerful [ 2004.04.21 08:34:51 ] Fret > taking out anyone we see [ 2004.04.21 08:34:57 ] Fret > it's kinda like.... [ 2004.04.21 08:35:03 ] Fret > WW2 [ 2004.04.21 08:35:28 ] DeepThought > rofl. no matter how you finsih that analogy it's going to be bad...
So I guess the war in FA space is going so well in favor of Rev0l that they don't need any help from HVI![Embarassed](/images/icon_redface.gif)
Here's some soundbite highlights... [ 2004.04.21 08:51:02 ] Fret > XAN & Friends are losing more BS's then Rev0l and we are [ 2004.04.21 08:51:13 ] Fret > our corp has taken no losses from this "war" [ 2004.04.21 08:51:54 ] Gafal > all they have are thier lies and gum flapping [ 2004.04.21 08:52:12 ] Fret > just like HVI "hired pirates" [ 2004.04.21 08:52:20 ] Fret > it was XAN who did that [ 2004.04.21 08:52:30 ] Fret > why would we hire rats? We have them in the corp!!!
that last pretty much sums it up...
-DT
like gas on the fire...
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Posted - 2004.04.21 10:30:00 -
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GG Kakalot, Lentia, Species and ZUDD... We almost got Species but he's a slippery little fool.![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
Might want to be careful next time you attack a lonely BS in FA space, you looked a little surprised when we showed up. :)
Now, which one of you Revvers said you never have seen us (my corp) in .5 and below?![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.21 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: DeepThought
...HVI...
He sure has some funny **** to claim about FA/rev0l ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's |
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Posted - 2004.04.21 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 21/04/2004 15:59:01 Actually, I would be afraid of species even if it was a 2 on 1. Trust me. :)
Deepthought, please contact me ingame, because I was told an entirely different story by Fret, it's extremely important that you do. Please contact me.
I can basically tell you that HVI is not a pirate organization, nor ever will be. The only person I am aware of Fret destroying yesterday was Stealthy[DE], who is NFA, and therefore the enemy.
To my knowledge Rev0l only lost a BB and maybe some frigs yesterday. Sorry to have to correct you. Embarassingly enough, Kak took down an NFA megathron yesterday in his mighty...................interceptor. Yes, I said interceptor.
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Posted - 2004.04.21 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Aerick Dawn Embarassingly enough, Kak took down an NFA megathron yesterday in his mighty...................interceptor. Yes, I said interceptor.
Don't know the story behind that one, but apparently the pilot fell asleep at the wheel or something...
the pilot in question was afk. his kid called him away from the pc and he forgot to log/hit a safespot :\.
an unfortunate event, but its done now, and cant be helped. grats on kakalot having the cajones to give it a shot :) ---
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Posted - 2004.04.21 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Muaddid on 22/04/2004 02:54:16 (edit - with the lag it never posted correctly heh)
Originally by: Kakalot
Originally by: Muaddid Its official
the only thing left to shoot are Lester Mako's cans ![Neutral](/images/icon_neutral.gif)
ROFL Yea, its official, REALLY!! ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) You cant take a joke eh? ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
Oh i knew you guys would deny it when i posted it, everyone knows you wont admit it ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
Sadly last night we could have had numerous fights of 4-4/5-5/5-4/4-3 engagements with rev0l outnumbering... but you guys waited so long that when you decided to move in d4 you were 7... and we were 2 left (barely) awake ![Sad](/images/icon_sad.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.21 23:44:00 -
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Let me just post a quick reply, to the HVI comments, we have been having complaints about Fret and piracy, HVI itself is NOT pirate, and we have no plans to become pirate. Fret is just a member, and has NO AUTHORITY to speak for HVI. His activities have been condemned, and if not stopped, he will be a pirate on his own, we do not sponsor his activities.
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Posted - 2004.04.22 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: DeepThought on 22/04/2004 00:41:18
Originally by: SteelDragon
Let me just post a quick reply, to the HVI comments, we have been having complaints about Fret and piracy, HVI itself is NOT pirate, and we have no plans to become pirate. Fret is just a member, and has NO AUTHORITY to speak for HVI. His activities have been condemned, and if not stopped, he will be a pirate on his own, we do not sponsor his activities.
SteelDragon CEO - HVI
Uh, I think the "if not stopped" thing is a wee bit late. If you believe him, then he's been making serious income by pirating. Period. He is telling people that you all are pirates, and associating with known pirates. His little attempt probably cost me 5-6 mil in wasted time (I'm not about to fly around with both of them hunting me) and at least 2-3 mil in loot from the stream that I ended up leaving in the belt (assuming no rares, which is a big assumption since I had a nice little spawn). Personally, getting the better hand of a 2v1 attempted******is almost worth the money (lucky though it was). So, if you don't condone his piracy then are you willing to re-imburse me for the losses he caused?
Face it. He's gone rat. And is flying around waving your flag. As long as he's an HVI member, HVI are pirating. Sorry if that doesn't fit with your own moral high ground, but this guy cost me isk.
DT
Talk is cheap. You can tell me how moral you are till you're blue in the face. The fact that one of your members tried to gank me speaks a lot louder. One of you is lying; everyone place their bets please.
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Posted - 2004.04.22 02:08:00 -
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Nephlite was in a claw not a stiletto. He's upgrading though. :)
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Posted - 2004.04.22 02:22:00 -
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I would not count on getting any sort of reimbursment as they are in noble fight against one of the bigger alliances; therefore they have to support their own navy and not care about a casual victim. ![Rolling Eyes](/images/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.22 02:54:00 -
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Edited by: Muaddid on 22/04/2004 02:55:54 (edit - with the lag it never posted correctly and i cant seem to edit my previous post :S)
Originally by: Kakalot
Originally by: Muaddid Its official
the only thing left to shoot are Lester Mako's cans ![Neutral](/images/icon_neutral.gif)
ROFL Yea, its official, REALLY!! ![Laughing](/images/icon_lol.gif) You cant take a joke eh? ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
Oh i knew you guys would deny it when i posted it, everyone knows you wont admit it ![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
Sadly last night we could have had numerous fights of 4-4/5-5/5-4/4-3 engagements with rev0l outnumbering... but you guys waited so long that when you decided to move in d4 you were 7... and we were 2 left (barely) awake ![Sad](/images/icon_sad.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.22 03:18:00 -
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It's the way EVE is, sad isn't it? ![Sad](/images/icon_sad.gif)
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Posted - 2004.04.22 05:27:00 -
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It doesnt have to be this way... get your guts out and come out to play with us when we're still awake so we can have some fun... it doesnt always have to be ganking :!:
(not directed at you kakalot ur OK )
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Posted - 2004.04.22 05:52:00 -
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sadly muad, we had 2 bs's in d4ku and one BB, and you guys had 3-4 bs and you chose not to fight, dont come in here and wag your tongue when your tongue was stuck to the hophib gate for 2 hours.
Oh looky, I see 14 NFA ships coming to greet our 4 now..aint that great.
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Posted - 2004.04.22 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Aerick Dawn sadly muad, we had 2 bs's in d4ku and one BB, and you guys had 3-4 bs and you chose not to fight, dont come in here and wag your tongue when your tongue was stuck to the hophib gate for 2 hours.
I'd love to know about thoses 3-4 BS as there was only minxx and I awake around here, while you guys had 2 BS + bb AND 7 ppl in hophib.
Its a shame Rev0l isnt all like Tbone or Kakalot.
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Posted - 2004.04.22 06:11:00 -
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Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 22/04/2004 06:12:58 What's that exactly supposed to mean? Don't post tripe and expect to be honored for your respect amigo. It does go both ways.
anyhow that NFA force moved to outer ring, so we logged. I'm letting this thread die now, considering its so unbelievably off topic its sorta...silly.
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Posted - 2004.04.23 04:51:00 -
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DeepThought,
Thanks for the nice little chat "log" you put up there.
What reason would I have to lie about such things? I am in a non-FA corp and have been defending our name with my life since this whole thing broke out. I do not believe this is an action a "pirate" would turn to. And yes, I have had my 'run ins' with certain people and corps, but that's a seperate issue all together that needs not be discussed here.
If you're going to accuse someone of something, please choose someone who is capable of doing such things.
Fret
"A milliary operation has no standard form - it goes by way of deception."
Cao Cao, Sun Tzu's Art of War
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