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Valeri Greon
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Posted - 2008.04.04 20:27:00 -
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Indeed. If we have go in Eve... Well, I might finally get down to 15 or even 10 kyu. Haven't played in a while seriously but this would bring it back - with an added bonus if there's some sort of ISK-exchange involved.
But poker -- especially Hold'em. Now there's a game I could actually start making some ISK instead of... Well... Spending my time chatting.
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Szprinkoth Sponsz
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.04 21:00:00 -
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Poor scrubs play poker, real men play baccarat.
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 21:21:00 -
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"Omgz noes. EVE is teh pew pew! Its the ruinz!one11!kkbthx"
Geez. Some people here need to read some of the backstory to EVE and get some perspective.
The "EVE" we have now is only a small fraction of the EVE the Devs created long ago.
Adapt or go resurrect Shadowbane 
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 22:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Valeri Greon
Indeed. If we have go in Eve... Well, I might finally get down to 15 or even 10 kyu. Haven't played in a while seriously but this would bring it back - with an added bonus if there's some sort of ISK-exchange involved.
If you got enough ISK, I can give you lessons. ^_^ I assume we're going to be able to review the game afterwards and all that?
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.04.04 22:35:00 -
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Poker in my EVE?!
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.04 23:49:00 -
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Hopefully, they will allow people to drag someone who is "suspiciously good" at poker into a back room and "re-educate" them. Please?
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Selene D'Celeste
The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.04.05 02:05:00 -
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Haha, surprised I didn't see this topic sooner. Poker has been around in EVE for a long time, at least for a year or more. Who am I you ask? I own the oldest and busiest high-stakes poker channel in the game: Eve Online Hold'Em. You can look at my bio in-game for details.
As far as it being in ambulation, that'll be interesting, I'm wondering how they're going to hook it up. I suspect it won't invalidate our business completely, but you never know with CCP, we'll have to wait and see. Personally I like the community we've developed, and it gives a lot of combat pilots something to do during lulls. People can fund ships this way (or sell off their hangars to keep playing). Either way, it's fun =P
Originally by: Vivitari
Plus, Chribba run card tourney anyone?
EOH is coming up on an anniversary this month, and I've already briefly spoken to Chribba about a truly high-stakes table. I have some more preparations to make before we confirm the deal and announce it. Watch the events forum this coming week ;)
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AndrewRyan
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: AndrewRyan on 05/04/2008 03:12:50
Lets just inject some food for thought into this discussion,
 Online poker and other forms of gambling are the current Internets FOTM with millions of idiots chuzzeling millions of dollars/pounds/w/e into online poker sites pretending they are all high rollers in Las vegas or something.
Because of this any arguments against CCP introducing it into EVE will be rapidly shouted by the hordes of zombie like online poker fanbois regardless of how shoddy the idea of poker in its current form being in outer space thousands of years in the future.
CCP are probably only introducing it because of the huge tidal wave of popularity surrounding online gambling and are hoping to cash in, its also entirely possible that the team behind the concepts and content for ambulation are part of the online poker zombie horde.
When the online gambling frenzy calms down or ends it will be interesting to see what value if any this ludicrous idea brings to ambulation.
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan
~ANGER~
Yes, they're also putting in Go. I don't think games that have been widely played for hundreds or thousands of years can be considered a "FOTM".
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AndrewRyan
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Trathen
Originally by: AndrewRyan
~ANGER~
Yes, they're also putting in Go. I don't think games that have been widely played for hundreds or thousands of years can be considered a "FOTM".
Yes but poker? its not hard to recognise this for what it is its an attempt to cater for one of the hugest online markets in an attempt to make it seem cool or trendy and grab headlines and to satisfy the online poker zombies. It breaks the whole feel of what EVE is, I agree high stakes gambling possibly even with criminal type connotations would be prevalent in new Eden but not a direct port of something that's super popular atm.
They might as well just make street fighter II and ridge racer arcade machines and have jukeboxes int he bars that play current pop music.
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Selene D'Celeste
The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Trathen
Originally by: AndrewRyan
~ANGER~
Yes, they're also putting in Go. I don't think games that have been widely played for hundreds or thousands of years can be considered a "FOTM".
Actually Go is still a national "sport" with people making their livings as Go professionals in many eastern nations. Japan was once the most popular nation for Go, but South Korea and China have really run with it in recent decades.
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Trathen
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:34:00 -
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Edited by: Trathen on 05/04/2008 03:34:03
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Yes but poker? its not hard to recognise this for what it is its an attempt to cater for one of the hugest online markets in an attempt to make it seem cool or trendy and grab headlines and to satisfy the online poker zombies. It breaks the whole feel of what EVE is, I agree high stakes gambling possibly even with criminal type connotations would be prevalent in new Eden but not a direct port of something that's super popular atm.
They might as well just make street fighter II and ridge racer arcade machines and have jukeboxes int he bars that play current pop music.
To be fair, poker isn't necessarily the fad that is sweeping the nation, its Texas Hold 'Em. I would agree with you completely if they just tossed in Texas Hold 'Em because somehow people actually found a "sport" to watch that is actually more boring to watch than golf, but as I understand, we should expect a wide selection of poker games.
I'm not too crazy about it myself. Poker is no fun if you can't look the other player in the eye.
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Diek Ran
Autonums
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
This is the guy who pretty much started roleplaying as one of the first few CCPers and I think he will pretty much know what fits EVE and what will not since he was part of EVE¦s creation.
Haha, Poker fits with EVE like a strip miner fits on a Vengeance. Why not add a train station to Jita?
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
And again, we have an entire team of people and several old old OOOOLD (in case they are reading this  ) CCPers who have been with us from the start making sure Ambulation will fit the original spirit of EVE.
Making money?
Old McDonald had a farm?
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
And last, we are looking into making more mini games but we don¦t want to say which. HA
Paradroid? Even has a minigame on its own.
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Thank you to all forum users who are willing to adjust misconceptions about Ambulation as well  It¦s really nice to see that many incorrect assumptions are already answered before I can jump in.
Incorrect assumptions are feeding this forum. So don't jump in too often...
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Riethe
Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:10:00 -
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Poker in stations already happens every day.
This just introduces a CCP governed way of playing.
Everyone that is so upset about it--just quit then. This isn't going to affect you nearly as much as you seem to think.
But considering your attitudes toward it, I wouldn't mind if you continued to pretend it's the worst thing to ever happen in your spectacular lives, and moved on to another game.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:10:00 -
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EVE in my view should be about diversity and expanding the possibilities of EVE.
As an aspiring sandbox game, adding this type of content is exactly what we need.
I hope there's a way to lie, cheat, and extort in the added content. Following rules and directives is so Star Trek. =P
Black Hand.
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Diek Ran
Autonums
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe
Poker in stations already happens every day.
So why then having CPP waste development time with it?
Maybe they could come up with a more futuristic mini game. At least I hope so. |
Tokclik
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:28:00 -
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All Hail Eris, All Hail Discordia!
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Riethe
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Diek Ran
Originally by: Riethe
Poker in stations already happens every day.
So why then having CPP waste development time with it?
Maybe they could come up with a more futuristic mini game. At least I hope so.
People also get scammed through 3rd party poker every day.
CCP governing it and implementing it as a real, legitimate feature means more people can participate with less risk.
Now if you want to argue that CCP shouldn't do this because EVE is about risk and trust and gambling should be extreme and only for the big dogs, then by all means.
But the stance most people are taking here is the equivalent to a 8 year old throwing a temper tantrum over absolutely nothing.
Spilled milk anyone?
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Tristin Del'astakhos
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.04.06 02:49:00 -
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I look forward to everything that is coming. I only hope they allow us to rent housing in the new stations. That would be so cool.
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Cutie Chaser
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.06 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tristin Del'astakhos
Lag is one problem in game, you can't pile hundreds of programmers on one problem as everyone would be altering the same pieces of code at the same time and canceling out everyone else's work.
This caught my eye...for the record this is not an issue. No team working on a project the size of EVE does so without some form of source control.
...This is entirely unrelated to my opinions on the discussion of poker and ambulation, to which I say 'way to go!'. Hope you manage to put in a few other games of chance, not just the FOTM(Texas Holdem, thanks ESPN).
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Jaco Matari
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Posted - 2008.04.06 03:28:00 -
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Wow, Go? Really? That's pretty sweet, always wanted to learn how to play that game. Seems a little complex for a minigame in EVE though. Wonder what size board it will be. The big ones take a while.
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Marlona Sky
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Posted - 2008.04.06 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: FuQue
Immersion is great, if it doesn't affect what Eve's supposed to be about, which is internet spaceships. And we all know how serious business that is.
EVE is also about competition. I think that if people want to wager billions of ISK on a poker hand instead of a fleet battle, it can be done without changing watering down the spirit of EVE.
Wonder how much lag will be in these fleet card games...
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you and... scouts, logistic ships, people to web you, alts with bonuses, not fitting nice gear, avoiding trafic hubs, etc... easy right?? |
Marlona Sky
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Posted - 2008.04.06 04:20:00 -
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You know, if people are bored enough to be AFK then maybe if these games and stuff will entertain them enough to stay put then maybe when something happens and you need people to 'x' the hell up you don't have to worry about them not even being at the computer.
Then again, lol, it may be a really good poker game and they don't want to leave the game!
Honestly, I really don't see this as a "OMG!!! They ruining EVE!!!" situation. If people who love poker start to play EVE to do it, then maybe they will inquire about this whole PvP part of EVE and give us fresh blood to pew pew with.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you and... scouts, logistic ships, people to web you, alts with bonuses, not fitting nice gear, avoiding trafic hubs, etc... easy right?? |
MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.06 08:31:00 -
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All I know is if I get stuck in a station I can invite the guys camping me to dock up and play a game of GO maybe. Then on thier turn see if I can slip out of the station.
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Adrielle Firewalker
WASTELAND MINERS Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Trathen
I'm not too crazy about it myself. Poker is no fun if you can't look the other player in the eye. I'm just glad its not something like Tetra Master
Oh god, I remember that 
With regards to the topic; hasn't it been stated *in this thread* that there will be minigames, but not what they are? I think, with ambulation being such a 'big deal' primarily for the RP crowd, while they might add something with similar rules as Texas Hold'em into the game, they'd probably (hopefully) modify it such that it wouldn't go and break immersion...
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Gokor
Pelennor Swarm
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 05:14:00 -
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If they put Roulette in EvE, i will never have to rat again.
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Soporo
ironwood ink
Friend or Enemy
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Posted - 2008.04.07 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Soporo on 07/04/2008 07:35:55
Seeing that this is EVE poker we are talking about here:
I reccomend that whenever a player manages to get two of a kind (Aces and Eights specifically) his head asplodes and flings blood and brains across the table.
A randomly chosen player at the table does a *twirl the six-shooter animation* and gets the Killmail (asuming he has the Gambling 3, Poker 2 and Dead Mans Hand 1 skills).
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