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FuQue
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Posted - 2008.04.03 20:50:00 -
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I can't believe what I just read.
Linkage
I'm disgusted this is actually going to happen. Way to ruin a game and keep everyone walking around in stations, CCP.
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Overwhelmed
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:00:00 -
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Cool, not that I like poker but now we'll see people complaining about being "griefed" at the poker table while everyone else repeats "Don't put anything in the pot that you can't afford to lose."
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:13:00 -
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People already play Poker ingame, through ingame browser apps. This just adds an offical version of it.
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N1fty
Galactic Shipyards Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:19:00 -
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Players are going to be able to rent NPC bots as staff within their offices, which we eventually intend to be programmable. Players will be able to set up dialogue trees, and give and receive items.
NEVER go shopping in Goons R' Us.
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
I usually close my eyes and just beg, out loud added with a lot of squealing.
I swear it helps.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:34:00 -
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April fools. It better be.
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
April fools. It better be.
CCP were talking about all this stuff at the FanFest I believe, or at least some other time quite a while ago. What exactly is wrong with this stuff?
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
Originally by: Sokratesz
April fools. It better be.
CCP were talking about all this stuff at the FanFest I believe, or at least some other time quite a while ago. What exactly is wrong with this stuff?
Turning eve into something that's not eve.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 03/04/2008 21:41:27
Actually I would love minigames... but poker? I mean really... You'd think CCP would have enough creative power to come up with their own minigames within the EVE theme.
Like something akin to Arcomage, the minigame that was in Might&Magic VII. I loved that, more often than not I played MM7 yet another time just to do some Arcomage...
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Asestorian
Domination.
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Asestorian
Originally by: Sokratesz
April fools. It better be.
CCP were talking about all this stuff at the FanFest I believe, or at least some other time quite a while ago. What exactly is wrong with this stuff?
Turning eve into something that's not eve.
What the poker? That thing that a bunch of people already do in their private channels losing billions of ISK to each other? What's wrong with bringing that to the masses? What's wrong with adding in an element to the game that's beyond just shooting crap? I like Ambulation because it adds something to the game for those who want to be immersed more.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:42:00 -
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Personally, I think that all non-combat game elements should be removed. EVE is, after all, all about combat right?
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
What the poker? That thing that a bunch of people already do in their private channels losing billions of ISK to each other? What's wrong with bringing that to the masses? What's wrong with adding in an element to the game that's beyond just shooting crap? I like Ambulation because it adds something to the game for those who want to be immersed more.
If people want to do that in their own time with their own means - fine. But CCP has more important **** to take care of than something totally superfluous like ambulation or ingame poker. fix the bloody game already.
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FuQue
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:42:00 -
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Immersion is great, if it doesn't affect what Eve's supposed to be about, which is internet spaceships. And we all know how serious business that is.
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Asestorian
Domination.
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:47:00 -
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Ambulation would be made anyway because they're using it in part for WoD iirc. Also, I do want a few things in EVE beyond the core gameplay. Something to pass the time when I don't feel like shooting at things, be it players or NPCs. I'm not the only one either.
And anyway. It doesn't affect you. You don't have to use it. The devs would be doing it anyway. So what's the problem?
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
Ambulation would be made anyway because they're using it in part for WoD iirc. Also, I do want a few things in EVE beyond the core gameplay. Something to pass the time when I don't feel like shooting at things, be it players or NPCs. I'm not the only one either.
And anyway. It doesn't affect you. You don't have to use it. The devs would be doing it anyway. So what's the problem?
Every line of code wasted on ambulation is one less optimisation made to Eve's core game play. Want something different? Hit ctrl-Q go outside the house play solitaire if it comforts you. Not everything does nor ever should revolve around eve.
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Vivitari
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Vivitari on 03/04/2008 21:51:18
Firstly, to whoever said CCP have better things to do than ambulation, remember its an entirely seperate team doing it.
Secondly, I see no difference than what players are already doing other than there being physical cards.
Plus, Chribba run card tourney anyone?
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Asestorian
Domination.
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Asestorian
Ambulation would be made anyway because they're using it in part for WoD iirc. Also, I do want a few things in EVE beyond the core gameplay. Something to pass the time when I don't feel like shooting at things, be it players or NPCs. I'm not the only one either.
And anyway. It doesn't affect you. You don't have to use it. The devs would be doing it anyway. So what's the problem?
Every line of code wasted on ambulation is one less optimisation made to Eve's core game play. Want something different? Hit ctrl-Q go outside the house play solitaire if it comforts you. Not everything does nor ever should revolve around eve.
Not every person in CCP can be coding all the time. There are graphics artists, and all manner of other people. And you still haven't addressed the point that CCP would be doing this anyway for their World of Darkness project. If that's the case, what's wrong with them giving that to us in EVE?
Oh yeah. Nothing. But that doesn't go well with your idea that EVE should never change beyond it's initial state.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue
Immersion is great, if it doesn't affect what Eve's supposed to be about, which is internet spaceships. And we all know how serious business that is.
EVE is also about competition. I think that if people want to wager billions of ISK on a poker hand instead of a fleet battle, it can be done without changing watering down the spirit of EVE.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
Oh yeah. Nothing. But that doesn't go well with your idea that EVE should never change beyond it's initial state.
Where did i say that? I'm just saying that eve in it's current form needs a lot of work before they should think of adding or modifying major factors.
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Vivitari
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Asestorian
Oh yeah. Nothing. But that doesn't go well with your idea that EVE should never change beyond it's initial state.
Where did i say that? I'm just saying that eve in it's current form needs a lot of work before they should think of adding or modifying major factors.
If CCP had this in mind we would still be pre-Cold War
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vivitari
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Asestorian
Oh yeah. Nothing. But that doesn't go well with your idea that EVE should never change beyond it's initial state.
Where did i say that? I'm just saying that eve in it's current form needs a lot of work before they should think of adding or modifying major factors.
If CCP had this in mind we would still be pre-Cold War
Can say many a thing in favour of 'no pos warfare' to 'current pos warfare mechanics'. I know what you mean, and i'm not saying they should never change or add anything, but in it's current form and especially growing in the current trend eve will need a lot of work if we want to be able to play it in 2008 like we were used to in 2006/7, god forbid even earlier.
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FuQue
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
Ambulation would be made anyway because they're using it in part for WoD iirc. Also, I do want a few things in EVE beyond the core gameplay. Something to pass the time when I don't feel like shooting at things, be it players or NPCs. I'm not the only one either.
And anyway. It doesn't affect you. You don't have to use it. The devs would be doing it anyway. So what's the problem?
It DOES affect me. People holed up in stations playing poker means they're not out mining and playing the ACTUAL GAME so I lose targets.
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Asestorian
Domination.
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Asestorian
Oh yeah. Nothing. But that doesn't go well with your idea that EVE should never change beyond it's initial state.
Where did i say that? I'm just saying that eve in it's current form needs a lot of work before they should think of adding or modifying major factors.
I understand what you're saying here (although you still haven't addressed that point), but that's not exactly fair to everyone. For a start, there are only so many people that can sit and look over code to find and fix bugs before there are too many and they just make it worse. I'm pretty annoyed with all the random crap that keeps happening to: my overview and UI settings not being saved properly; randomly lag spikes etc etc. I also want to see changes in many other aspects of EVE, especially relating to alliances and supercapitals. But there are people working on that already, and in the meantime I don't see a problem with adding in extra content that improves and makes this virtual world more interesting; especially one that interacts very, very little with the core game itself, making it unlikely to cause any major issues.
Also, I'd just like to say that you should avoid making references to what I can and can't do in real life, because you are totally ignorant of the circumstances in which I find myself, which indeed may make it difficult to hit Ctrl+Q and play about out there, riding bikes like goons.
Not that I'm particularly offended or upset or anything, just pointing out that maybe all I can do is play EVE.
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Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue
I'm disgusted this is actually going to happen. Way to ruin a game and keep everyone walking around in stations, CCP.
So am I, friend. So am I. Shocked. Just shocked. Is there no end to CCP's depravity?
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Morwagorion
Equites
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue
I can't believe what I just read.
Linkage
I'm disgusted this is actually going to happen. Way to ruin a game and keep everyone walking around in stations, CCP.
I'm vey pleased this is actually going to happen 
Poker Holdem is a very hard and skilled game, much more PvP in poker than in "market PvP".
CCP with the rake can drain ISKs from game in a very smart way, while the poker player enjoy the game.
if u dont like it, dont play, easy choice ?
u dislike it, others like it, usual stuff, not a drama
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Chelone
Stone Shadow Syndicate
deadspace society
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Every line of code wasted on ambulation is one less optimisation made to Eve's core game play.
Precisely. Moreover, the more extraneous stupidity they code into the game, the more bugs they add to the pile.
Here's my question -- why did this Olafsson reference YULAI as a place of high commerce? It hasn't been that for years. As far as I can see, it is completely dead now. This makes me think he is extremely disconnected from what is actually happening in-game, which make his plans to "improve it" even more worrisome.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 03/04/2008 22:12:06
Originally by: Asestorian
I understand what you're saying here (although you still haven't addressed that point), but that's not exactly fair to everyone. For a start, there are only so many people that can sit and look over code to find and fix bugs before there are too many and they just make it worse. I'm pretty annoyed with all the random crap that keeps happening to: my overview and UI settings not being saved properly; randomly lag spikes etc etc. I also want to see changes in many other aspects of EVE, especially relating to alliances and supercapitals. But there are people working on that already, and in the meantime I don't see a problem with adding in extra content that improves and makes this virtual world more interesting; especially one that interacts very, very little with the core game itself, making it unlikely to cause any major issues.
Also, I'd just like to say that you should avoid making references to what I can and can't do in real life, because you are totally ignorant of the circumstances in which I find myself, which indeed may make it difficult to hit Ctrl+Q and play about out there, riding bikes like goons.
Not that I'm particularly offended or upset or anything, just pointing out that maybe all I can do is play EVE.
Sense? On my internet? This must be breaking some sort of universal law.
First, sorry, i don't now your situation and it may have slipped me a little too quick. Even though, if you are somehow bound or limited to a computer, there are near infinite other things you can do with it besides eve.
Second, if they are indeed working on things like the UI, lag, super caps, pos warfare etc etc, i would really like to get a status update because that would be something that would directly involve anyone playing the game instead of just those that will choose to use ambulation. CCP are quick to announce shiny new things that will attract alot of media attention, yet they seem so sparse with releasing information about fundamental things that will affect the majority of the playerbase.
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Overwhelmed
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:12:00 -
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How dare CCP add content to this game! This is an outrage!
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Overwhelmed
How dare CCP add content to this game! This is an outrage!
get out
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Asestorian
Domination.
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:19:00 -
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Sokratesz: I agree, it'd be nice to get a little more information on what CCP were doing to fix things. But I prefer to be positive and think that the lack of information is a result of them working so hard to do it. My point really is that CCP can and should continue to add interesting content like Ambulation as well, because some of us, especially those who are interested in the world of EVE beyond the game side, like that kind of thing.
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Vivitari
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Asestorian
Sokratesz: I agree, it'd be nice to get a little more information on what CCP were doing to fix things. But I prefer to be positive and think that the lack of information is a result of them working so hard to do it. My point really is that CCP can and should continue to add interesting content like Ambulation as well, because some of us, especially those who are interested in the world of EVE beyond the game side, like that kind of thing.
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Crimzin
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Posted - 2008.04.03 22:41:00 -
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Hi,
Well if been playing about 2 weeks now, loving the game btw , i think its a nice idea plus it adds a whole new load of possibilitys hehe my imagination is going wild lol, but im reading from all you uber guys there is lots wrong with game at higher sp, certain ships.. speed balance etc. But from a newbs point of view sounds good to me
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Tristin Del'astakhos
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.04.03 23:01:00 -
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Lag is one problem in game, you can't pile hundreds of programmers on one problem as everyone would be altering the same pieces of code at the same time and canceling out everyone else's work. From what I have read, this is an entirely separate team of programmers working on this. The idea that "walking in stations" stations is getting in the way of, or slowing down any other part of game design or bug fixing is ridiculous. This feature will attract a whole new audience to EVE which will bring CCP new money from new Subs, which will allow them to hire more Devs to work on more things. It's win win all around for everyone.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 00:45:00 -
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Turning eve into something that's not eve
Pfft, EVE is wtf-ever the Devs say/create.
Not your idea of EVE.
Bring on poker.
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2008.04.04 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tristin Del'astakhos
Lag is one problem in game, you can't pile hundreds of programmers on one problem as everyone would be altering the same pieces of code at the same time and canceling out everyone else's work. From what I have read, this is an entirely separate team of programmers working on this. The idea that "walking in stations" stations is getting in the way of, or slowing down any other part of game design or bug fixing is ridiculous. This feature will attract a whole new audience to EVE which will bring CCP new money from new Subs, which will allow them to hire more Devs to work on more things. It's win win all around for everyone.
I really hope you're right but i will remain sceptical untill i see results.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.04 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Morwagorion
Originally by: FuQue
I can't believe what I just read.
Linkage
I'm disgusted this is actually going to happen. Way to ruin a game and keep everyone walking around in stations, CCP.
I'm vey pleased this is actually going to happen
Poker Holdem is a very hard and skilled game, much more PvP in poker than in "market PvP".
CCP with the rake can drain ISKs from game in a very smart way, while the poker player enjoy the game.
if u dont like it, dont play, easy choice ?
u dislike it, others like it, usual stuff, not a drama
Poker on the internet and akill? lol
I am sure it does IRL, but on the net that goes out of the window.
There are a lot of card games out there that require real skill to play even on the net, but poker isn't one of them. It is mostly about luck, paired with a little statistics, practice, and a lot of psychology. And the latter part is largely missing from internet play, so...
And when nothing is at stake, games get ruined a lot by *****s.
Yeah, I really don't like poker much. I prefer tactical games over psycho/luck ones.
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Miners-R-us
Solaris Consortium
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Posted - 2008.04.04 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: Rook Highwind on 04/04/2008 14:57:53
Go is also being included as I recall.
Originally by: Vivitari
Edited by: Vivitari on 03/04/2008 21:51:18
Firstly, to whoever said CCP have better things to do than ambulation, remember its an entirely seperate team doing it.
Secondly, I see no difference than what players are already doing other than there being physical cards.
Plus, Chribba run card tourney anyone?
Glad somebody else remembered that one, people seem not to believe me whenever I bring it up 
And for reference, we have a megathread here for all things Ambulation.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 15:38:00 -
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Edited by: Red Desire on 04/04/2008 15:38:40
Oh no, anotherteam.. yes I see your point there.
It's not about teams slow ones, it's about resources as any project Ambulation eats resources and lots of them, simpler for the ones with extremely thick skulls, it's money; you can assign the money to :
- buy new hardware,software
- hire brilliant people who will find,fix Eve numerous problems
but no, the money will go to avatars, pokers and other silly things which in reality wont increase the game depth , it actually makes it a lot more shallow.
Also keep in mind the point someone made, Eve is about shooting stuff in space, not about cyboring in stations. This stuff will bite back in CCP ass, one way or another.
We all see what CCP tries to make, a hybrid half RPG half simulation.. but there is a problem with hybrids .. they always sux compared to specialized things.
I would like to see more human controlled fighters with real control and not click a point in space or something interesting not avatars walking on stations, if I wanted avatars I would play other MMORPG.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 15:43:00 -
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Look at it this way: People sticking to stations playing poker probably means less lag in space.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Asestorian
Ambulation would be made anyway because they're using it in part for WoD iirc. Also, I do want a few things in EVE beyond the core gameplay. Something to pass the time when I don't feel like shooting at things, be it players or NPCs. I'm not the only one either.
And anyway. It doesn't affect you. You don't have to use it. The devs would be doing it anyway. So what's the problem?
Every line of code wasted on ambulation is one less optimisation made to Eve's core game play. Want something different? Hit ctrl-Q go outside the house play solitaire if it comforts you. Not everything does nor ever should revolve around eve.
That works also the other direction. Do not want something different ? Hit ctrl-Q go outside the house play something else if it comforts you.
To the OP, when i am bored i do not undock sometimes and chat while in station or read forum. With ambulation i can also play poker now and do other stuff. Could be that it keeps me docked a bit more than without this stuff. But it could also be that
i stay docked and play poker instead of logging out and play something else.
Some people just get ill when they do not have something to whine about on the forums.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Tristin Del'astakhos
Lag is one problem in game, you can't pile hundreds of programmers on one problem as everyone would be altering the same pieces of code at the same time and canceling out everyone else's work. From what I have read, this is an entirely separate team of programmers working on this. The idea that "walking in stations" stations is getting in the way of, or slowing down any other part of game design or bug fixing is ridiculous. This feature will attract a whole new audience to EVE which will bring CCP new money from new Subs, which will allow them to hire more Devs to work on more things. It's win win all around for everyone.
I really hope you're right but i will remain sceptical untill i see results.
As do I, but the trend does not point to that. more and more subs and slower and slower it gets.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:03:00 -
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Poker would be great, they can implement that on your left side menu tbh. no need to wait for ambulation.
There is way too many rich people in eve with nothing to spend that money on, and i want to win it from them : 0
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Poker on the internet and akill? lol
I am sure it does IRL, but on the net that goes out of the window.
There are a lot of card games out there that require real skill to play even on the net, but poker isn't one of them. It is mostly about luck, paired with a little statistics, practice, and a lot of psychology. And the latter part is largely missing from internet play, so...
And when nothing is at stake, games get ruined a lot by *****s.
Yeah, I really don't like poker much. I prefer tactical games over psycho/luck ones.
Lost alot of money at the tables did you? 
I suggest you stop being ignorant btw... mind you, it's only a suggestion.
And CCP didn't say they would add poker and nothing else. They say that they will add various props and people can in their own bars create games using their own rules. So you are free to make your own establishment with whatever card games you like and if they are worth playing you will have costumers in your bar...
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:18:00 -
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People in Jita who get bored and drop a millions of cans ( or do something else that causes load and lag) can now play poker in Ambulation and not lag the rest of Jita.
Other people in the team know that Jita has replaced Yulai, but what that has to do with your ability to perform your job with regards to Ambulation I¦m not sure of. More so if you have other people in your team who can correct such misconceptions if they actually matter directly.
This is the guy who pretty much started roleplaying as one of the first few CCPers and I think he will pretty much know what fits EVE and what will not since he was part of EVE¦s creation. And again, we have an entire team of people and several old old OOOOLD (in case they are reading this ) CCPers who have been with us from the start making sure Ambulation will fit the original spirit of EVE.
So there is a good mix of young, fresh, hip and trendy designers working together with veterans of EVE.
And last, we are looking into making more mini games but we don¦t want to say which. HA
Thank you to all forum users who are willing to adjust misconceptions about Ambulation as well It¦s really nice to see that many incorrect assumptions are already answered before I can jump in.
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Poker on the internet and akill? lol
I am sure it does IRL, but on the net that goes out of the window.
There are a lot of card games out there that require real skill to play even on the net, but poker isn't one of them. It is mostly about luck, paired with a little statistics, practice, and a lot of psychology. And the latter part is largely missing from internet play, so...
And when nothing is at stake, games get ruined a lot by *****s.
Yeah, I really don't like poker much. I prefer tactical games over psycho/luck ones.
Lost alot of money at the tables did you?
I suggest you stop being ignorant btw... mind you, it's only a suggestion.
And CCP didn't say they would add poker and nothing else. They say that they will add various props and people can in their own bars create games using their own rules. So you are free to make your own establishment with whatever card games you like and if they are worth playing you will have costumers in your bar...
Not that I would ever play cards for money, but even if I did, poker would be way too boring for me to lose something there. The few times I have played it under group pressure, I used to break even.
I just prefer games that reward thought and tactics rather than thespian skills and blind luck.
And it is probably YOU who is ingorant of such beautiful games like Skat or Doppelkopf, which are much more challenging to the mind than poker.
Then again, that lack of challenge prolly explains the popularity of poker...
But if they actually add some sort of game creation thingy, that would be damn neat.
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Alora Venoda
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:48:00 -
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i would find it very interesting if one of the mini-games is an in-game collectible card game. perhaps not like Pokemon or Magic the Gathering... but maybe something like that one they had in Starwars Knights of the Old Republic. It was all number based and special cards you could find had different numeric values than the default deck.
ofc if EVE already has a RL CCG, then why not just use the same cards in the mini-game?
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Posted - 2008.04.04 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 04/04/2008 16:50:18
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Not that I would ever play cards for money, but even if I did, poker would be way too boring for me to lose something there. The few times I have played it under group pressure, I used to break even.
I just prefer games that reward thought and tactics rather than thespian skills and blind luck.
And it is probably YOU who is ingorant of such beautiful games like Skat or Doppelkopf, which are much more challenging to the mind than poker.
Then again, that lack of challenge prolly explains the popularity of poker...
But if they actually add some sort of game creation thingy, that would be damn neat.
While there is luck involved in cards, and in virtually every type of game, to say that there is no skill involved in poker is ridiculous. While a few hours of playing won't show it, watching it in the long-term it becomes obvious.
To the beginner, Poker is just about what you have in your hand, the luck of the draw, and then what to do. But as you play it more, you realize that the game isn't about your cards, nor is it really about you. It is about other players bets, and figuring out what the other people have.
Poker is just as much a psychological game, as it is a card game.
But if you want a different game, I'm happy to set up Eve-based games of Diplomacy for ISK.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Bane Glorious
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Posted - 2008.04.04 17:14:00 -
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humbly requesting three card monte and texas hold 'em |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2008.04.04 17:17:00 -
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Quote:
There is way too many rich people in eve with nothing to spend that money on, and i want to win it from them : 0
I think that this is a great idea. It adds a whole new aspect to PVP (well, actually, it just formalises and brings to the masses one that's already happening), and it offers a new route to make (and loose!) vast sums of ISKies outside traditional combat.
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B1FF
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Posted - 2008.04.04 17:21:00 -
[49]
Edited by: B1FF on 04/04/2008 17:21:16
This is stupid. Why do we have to stop playing EvE to play Poker? Why can't we play poker while we mine, or travel, or gate camp, or explore, or anything?
If you're going to spend time and resources on poker then let us play anywhere!
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Leandro Salazar
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Posted - 2008.04.04 17:28:00 -
[50]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
While there is luck involved in cards, and in virtually every type of game, to say that there is no skill involved in poker is ridiculous. While a few hours of playing won't show it, watching it in the long-term it becomes obvious.
To the beginner, Poker is just about what you have in your hand, the luck of the draw, and then what to do. But as you play it more, you realize that the game isn't about your cards, nor is it really about you. It is about other players bets, and figuring out what the other people have.
Poker is just as much a psychological game, as it is a card game.
But if you want a different game, I'm happy to set up Eve-based games of Diplomacy for ISK.
What you describe is RL poker. Which I fully acknowledge being much more than just a game of chance and statistics, even if it is still not my cup of tea.
What I am dissing is general online poker, with ever changing players, frequent *****s messing up serious games, and no face-to-face dealings which negates a lot of the psychology part. I am sure you can play 'good' online poker too if you have a core group and a nice hideout. But not in a public lounge.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
What you describe is RL poker. Which I fully acknowledge being much more than just a game of chance and statistics, even if it is still not my cup of tea.
What I am dissing is general online poker, with ever changing players, frequent *****s messing up serious games, and no face-to-face dealings which negates a lot of the psychology part. I am sure you can play 'good' online poker too if you have a core group and a nice hideout. But not in a public lounge.
That is true. Online Poker is really a whole different beat, and heavily dependent on if you're playing for real money or not. Eve however, is somewhere in the middle. I'm hoping that people will play seriously with their ISK, which I think is likely to happen.
Bluffing is much easier without the face to face interaction. But after you play with people for a long enough time (groups will evolve based at stations, you'll have a similar crowd at Jita IV-IV of course, etc), you will begin to notice play styles. And in some cases, betting habits are enough.
I also didn't read the article, and I'm not sure if it specified which forms of poker.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2008.04.04 17:55:00 -
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Can we have a betting exchange for isk & items, please? Something like what www.betfair.com offers would be ideal.
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MS Stanis
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:05:00 -
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I wouldn't mind poker, its quite better than ship spinning. 100 isk here or there dosent matter, its fun.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:15:00 -
[54]
Originally by: B1FF
Edited by: B1FF on 04/04/2008 17:21:16
This is stupid. Why do we have to stop playing EvE to play Poker? Why can't we play poker while we mine, or travel, or gate camp, or explore, or anything?
If you're going to spend time and resources on poker then let us play anywhere!
I thought you were going to quit allready?
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Vinchester
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:30:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Asestorian
What the poker? That thing that a bunch of people already do in their private channels losing billions of ISK to each other? What's wrong with bringing that to the masses? What's wrong with adding in an element to the game that's beyond just shooting crap? I like Ambulation because it adds something to the game for those who want to be immersed more.
If people want to do that in their own time with their own means - fine. But CCP has more important **** to take care of than something totally superfluous like ambulation or ingame poker. fix the bloody game already.
oh shut up you*****. poker is great. thanks CCP! we've been asking for it for so long.
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LifeLines
Shinra
Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Glorious
humbly requesting three card monte and texas hold 'em
bold'd the important part.
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Overwhelmed
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:52:00 -
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I'm glad CCP is opting for more tried and true card games than trying to introduce their own horrible game Squaresoft-style. Give us some sexy space-cards and it should be enough. I hope there are other things to do though as I find online poker quite boring.
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B1FF
Happy Fun Time Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
I thought you were going to quit allready?
Link please.
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An Anarchyyt
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Posted - 2008.04.04 19:01:00 -
[59]
Originally by: B1FF
Originally by: MotherMoon
I thought you were going to quit allready?
Link please.
I just checked a few Eve-search posts to see if I could find this. But all I found was that every single post you've ever made sounds like an only child 16-year old girl whining because they were told they couldn't have a Porsche for their sweet 16.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Rakshasa Taisab
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Posted - 2008.04.04 19:05:00 -
[60]
Quote:
This is why weÆre including these gambling games. WeÆre going to implement some very familiar strategic games, such as poker, and go.
I don't give a damn about poker... But they're really going to implement _go_, as in igo, baduk, weiqi or whatever it is called in your language?..
Who cares about 0.0... I'm moving to Jita. ^_^
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Valeri Greon
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Posted - 2008.04.04 20:27:00 -
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Indeed. If we have go in Eve... Well, I might finally get down to 15 or even 10 kyu. Haven't played in a while seriously but this would bring it back - with an added bonus if there's some sort of ISK-exchange involved.
But poker -- especially Hold'em. Now there's a game I could actually start making some ISK instead of... Well... Spending my time chatting.
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Szprinkoth Sponsz
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.04 21:00:00 -
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Poor scrubs play poker, real men play baccarat.
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 21:21:00 -
[63]
"Omgz noes. EVE is teh pew pew! Its the ruinz!one11!kkbthx"
Geez. Some people here need to read some of the backstory to EVE and get some perspective.
The "EVE" we have now is only a small fraction of the EVE the Devs created long ago.
Adapt or go resurrect Shadowbane
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.04 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Valeri Greon
Indeed. If we have go in Eve... Well, I might finally get down to 15 or even 10 kyu. Haven't played in a while seriously but this would bring it back - with an added bonus if there's some sort of ISK-exchange involved.
If you got enough ISK, I can give you lessons. ^_^ I assume we're going to be able to review the game afterwards and all that?
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.04.04 22:35:00 -
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Poker in my EVE?!
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.04 23:49:00 -
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Hopefully, they will allow people to drag someone who is "suspiciously good" at poker into a back room and "re-educate" them. Please?
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Selene D'Celeste
The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.04.05 02:05:00 -
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Haha, surprised I didn't see this topic sooner. Poker has been around in EVE for a long time, at least for a year or more. Who am I you ask? I own the oldest and busiest high-stakes poker channel in the game: Eve Online Hold'Em. You can look at my bio in-game for details.
As far as it being in ambulation, that'll be interesting, I'm wondering how they're going to hook it up. I suspect it won't invalidate our business completely, but you never know with CCP, we'll have to wait and see. Personally I like the community we've developed, and it gives a lot of combat pilots something to do during lulls. People can fund ships this way (or sell off their hangars to keep playing). Either way, it's fun =P
Originally by: Vivitari
Plus, Chribba run card tourney anyone?
EOH is coming up on an anniversary this month, and I've already briefly spoken to Chribba about a truly high-stakes table. I have some more preparations to make before we confirm the deal and announce it. Watch the events forum this coming week ;)
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AndrewRyan
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: AndrewRyan on 05/04/2008 03:12:50
Lets just inject some food for thought into this discussion,
 Online poker and other forms of gambling are the current Internets FOTM with millions of idiots chuzzeling millions of dollars/pounds/w/e into online poker sites pretending they are all high rollers in Las vegas or something.
Because of this any arguments against CCP introducing it into EVE will be rapidly shouted by the hordes of zombie like online poker fanbois regardless of how shoddy the idea of poker in its current form being in outer space thousands of years in the future.
CCP are probably only introducing it because of the huge tidal wave of popularity surrounding online gambling and are hoping to cash in, its also entirely possible that the team behind the concepts and content for ambulation are part of the online poker zombie horde.
When the online gambling frenzy calms down or ends it will be interesting to see what value if any this ludicrous idea brings to ambulation.
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan
~ANGER~
Yes, they're also putting in Go. I don't think games that have been widely played for hundreds or thousands of years can be considered a "FOTM".
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AndrewRyan
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Trathen
Originally by: AndrewRyan
~ANGER~
Yes, they're also putting in Go. I don't think games that have been widely played for hundreds or thousands of years can be considered a "FOTM".
Yes but poker? its not hard to recognise this for what it is its an attempt to cater for one of the hugest online markets in an attempt to make it seem cool or trendy and grab headlines and to satisfy the online poker zombies. It breaks the whole feel of what EVE is, I agree high stakes gambling possibly even with criminal type connotations would be prevalent in new Eden but not a direct port of something that's super popular atm.
They might as well just make street fighter II and ridge racer arcade machines and have jukeboxes int he bars that play current pop music.
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Selene D'Celeste
The D'Celeste Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:30:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Trathen
Originally by: AndrewRyan
~ANGER~
Yes, they're also putting in Go. I don't think games that have been widely played for hundreds or thousands of years can be considered a "FOTM".
Actually Go is still a national "sport" with people making their livings as Go professionals in many eastern nations. Japan was once the most popular nation for Go, but South Korea and China have really run with it in recent decades.
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Trathen
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.05 03:34:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Trathen on 05/04/2008 03:34:03
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Yes but poker? its not hard to recognise this for what it is its an attempt to cater for one of the hugest online markets in an attempt to make it seem cool or trendy and grab headlines and to satisfy the online poker zombies. It breaks the whole feel of what EVE is, I agree high stakes gambling possibly even with criminal type connotations would be prevalent in new Eden but not a direct port of something that's super popular atm.
They might as well just make street fighter II and ridge racer arcade machines and have jukeboxes int he bars that play current pop music.
To be fair, poker isn't necessarily the fad that is sweeping the nation, its Texas Hold 'Em. I would agree with you completely if they just tossed in Texas Hold 'Em because somehow people actually found a "sport" to watch that is actually more boring to watch than golf, but as I understand, we should expect a wide selection of poker games.
I'm not too crazy about it myself. Poker is no fun if you can't look the other player in the eye.
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Diek Ran
Autonums
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:00:00 -
[73]
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
This is the guy who pretty much started roleplaying as one of the first few CCPers and I think he will pretty much know what fits EVE and what will not since he was part of EVE¦s creation.
Haha, Poker fits with EVE like a strip miner fits on a Vengeance. Why not add a train station to Jita?
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
And again, we have an entire team of people and several old old OOOOLD (in case they are reading this ) CCPers who have been with us from the start making sure Ambulation will fit the original spirit of EVE.
Making money?
Old McDonald had a farm?
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
And last, we are looking into making more mini games but we don¦t want to say which. HA
Paradroid? Even has a minigame on its own.
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Thank you to all forum users who are willing to adjust misconceptions about Ambulation as well It¦s really nice to see that many incorrect assumptions are already answered before I can jump in.
Incorrect assumptions are feeding this forum. So don't jump in too often...
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Riethe
Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:10:00 -
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Poker in stations already happens every day.
This just introduces a CCP governed way of playing.
Everyone that is so upset about it--just quit then. This isn't going to affect you nearly as much as you seem to think.
But considering your attitudes toward it, I wouldn't mind if you continued to pretend it's the worst thing to ever happen in your spectacular lives, and moved on to another game.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:10:00 -
[75]
EVE in my view should be about diversity and expanding the possibilities of EVE.
As an aspiring sandbox game, adding this type of content is exactly what we need.
I hope there's a way to lie, cheat, and extort in the added content. Following rules and directives is so Star Trek. =P
Black Hand.
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Diek Ran
Autonums
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:16:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Riethe
Poker in stations already happens every day.
So why then having CPP waste development time with it?
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Tokclik
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:28:00 -
[77]
All Hail Eris, All Hail Discordia!
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Riethe
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Posted - 2008.04.05 06:31:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Diek Ran
Originally by: Riethe
Poker in stations already happens every day.
So why then having CPP waste development time with it?
Maybe they could come up with a more futuristic mini game. At least I hope so.
People also get scammed through 3rd party poker every day.
CCP governing it and implementing it as a real, legitimate feature means more people can participate with less risk.
Now if you want to argue that CCP shouldn't do this because EVE is about risk and trust and gambling should be extreme and only for the big dogs, then by all means.
But the stance most people are taking here is the equivalent to a 8 year old throwing a temper tantrum over absolutely nothing.
Spilled milk anyone?
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Tristin Del'astakhos
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.04.06 02:49:00 -
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I look forward to everything that is coming. I only hope they allow us to rent housing in the new stations. That would be so cool.
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Cutie Chaser
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.06 03:08:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Tristin Del'astakhos
Lag is one problem in game, you can't pile hundreds of programmers on one problem as everyone would be altering the same pieces of code at the same time and canceling out everyone else's work.
This caught my eye...for the record this is not an issue. No team working on a project the size of EVE does so without some form of source control.
...This is entirely unrelated to my opinions on the discussion of poker and ambulation, to which I say 'way to go!'. Hope you manage to put in a few other games of chance, not just the FOTM(Texas Holdem, thanks ESPN).
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Jaco Matari
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Posted - 2008.04.06 03:28:00 -
[81]
Wow, Go? Really? That's pretty sweet, always wanted to learn how to play that game. Seems a little complex for a minigame in EVE though. Wonder what size board it will be. The big ones take a while.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 04:15:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: FuQue
Immersion is great, if it doesn't affect what Eve's supposed to be about, which is internet spaceships. And we all know how serious business that is.
EVE is also about competition. I think that if people want to wager billions of ISK on a poker hand instead of a fleet battle, it can be done without changing watering down the spirit of EVE.
Wonder how much lag will be in these fleet card games...
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you and... scouts, logistic ships, people to web you, alts with bonuses, not fitting nice gear, avoiding trafic hubs, etc... easy right?? |
Marlona Sky
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Posted - 2008.04.06 04:20:00 -
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You know, if people are bored enough to be AFK then maybe if these games and stuff will entertain them enough to stay put then maybe when something happens and you need people to 'x' the hell up you don't have to worry about them not even being at the computer.
Then again, lol, it may be a really good poker game and they don't want to leave the game!
Honestly, I really don't see this as a "OMG!!! They ruining EVE!!!" situation. If people who love poker start to play EVE to do it, then maybe they will inquire about this whole PvP part of EVE and give us fresh blood to pew pew with.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you and... scouts, logistic ships, people to web you, alts with bonuses, not fitting nice gear, avoiding trafic hubs, etc... easy right?? |
MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.06 08:31:00 -
[84]
All I know is if I get stuck in a station I can invite the guys camping me to dock up and play a game of GO maybe. Then on thier turn see if I can slip out of the station.
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Adrielle Firewalker
WASTELAND MINERS Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 09:20:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Trathen
I'm not too crazy about it myself. Poker is no fun if you can't look the other player in the eye. I'm just glad its not something like Tetra Master
Oh god, I remember that 
With regards to the topic; hasn't it been stated *in this thread* that there will be minigames, but not what they are? I think, with ambulation being such a 'big deal' primarily for the RP crowd, while they might add something with similar rules as Texas Hold'em into the game, they'd probably (hopefully) modify it such that it wouldn't go and break immersion...
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Gokor
Pelennor Swarm
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.07 05:14:00 -
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If they put Roulette in EvE, i will never have to rat again.
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Soporo
ironwood ink
Friend or Enemy
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Posted - 2008.04.07 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Soporo on 07/04/2008 07:35:55
Seeing that this is EVE poker we are talking about here:
I reccomend that whenever a player manages to get two of a kind (Aces and Eights specifically) his head asplodes and flings blood and brains across the table.
A randomly chosen player at the table does a *twirl the six-shooter animation* and gets the Killmail (asuming he has the Gambling 3, Poker 2 and Dead Mans Hand 1 skills).
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