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Barbelo Valentinian
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Posted - 2008.04.06 08:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Erik Amirault
Edited by: Erik Amirault on 06/04/2008 07:24:45
Goons don't care if they are liked or not. I don't want to be anyone's e-friend because that is pathetic. You heard right, it's pathetic. Make some real friends and stop being such a loser if you think that's how games should be played.
*Barbelo falls off her Aeron laughing*
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Shadowsword
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Posted - 2008.04.06 09:12:00 -
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I like Goons because they're good allies. Always willing to give you a hand if you need it.
As for the "they want to destroy Eve" propaganda, even IF an actual goon said it, it's pretty obviously taken way out of context.
Seriously, only an utter moron would think 5000+ players want to destroy the game they have fun with. Besides, some of the corps of Goonsswarm aren't related to the SA forums.
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Frost 1232
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Posted - 2008.04.06 11:40:00 -
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Well the goons will conquered and then another alliance will come along and stomp them into the ground, But seeming goon controls the market now and there so Bloody well supplied, I think it going to take a lot to nock them off.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 11:52:00 -
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to the tcf guy.. the only reason u think they r good allies is cos they have not ****** u over yet!... many are the stories of alliances and corps whove made deals with goonz only to be stabbed in the back at the first opportunity.. The southern coalition will eventually fall in upon itself due to greed and egos.
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Doonoo Boonoo
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.04.06 12:32:00 -
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Thanks for not being able to provide any shred of proof to back up your statements and coming up with more flights of fantasy,supposition,paranoia and hysteria.
Originally by: Doonoo Boonoo
How can CCP distinguish between players who are using game mechanics to play the game and people who use game mechanics because they are 'evil' in real life?What do you suggest.A psychiatric questionaire before you can open an account?
Originally by: Barbelo Valentinian
Oh yes, it's difficult alright, but CCP are smart people - and for the reasons I've outlined, they will HAVE to minimise griefing if they want EVE to keep growing. One possible angle they could take advantage of is that griefers (who could care less about immersion) are likely to care less about their stuff than normal players.
The reasons you have outlined are based on your own,ill informed,biased opinions not fact.Btw every MMO has to do it's best to keep griefing to a minimum darling.It's not just Eve.The only problem is that many peoples definition of griefing(including yours)can't be applied to Eve.
Lolwhut?'Griefers care less about their stuff'.How does this theory of yours help CCP to minmise griefing or determine who's a griefer?
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Doonoo Boonoo
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.04.06 12:34:00 -
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continued...
Originally by: Doonoo Boonoo
Seeing as how you think that this is a serious problem but have yet to post any proof or exact figures with relation to how widespread this 'griefing'is would you care to pluck some figures that you made up in your head out of the air and give me some indication as how bad you think this is?Say if there is 35k players on the server how many are 'evil' in real life.Or how many people in total are using game mechanics as a means to cause genuine harm?what would be your estimate of ships destroyed by 'evil' people in rl?What are logic are you using to come to these sort of conclusions?
Originally by: Barbelo Valentinian
Since I haven't said griefers are evil in real life, I don't know where you plucked the idea that I think they are from - your arse perhaps??
Oh my bad.Allow me to rephrase it,
Seeing as how you think that this is a serious problem but have yet to post any proof or exact figures with relation to how widespread this 'griefing'is would you care to pluck some figures that you made up in your head out of the air and give me some indication as how bad you think this is?Say if there is 35k players on the server how many are griefing.Or how many people in total are using game mechanics as a means to cause genuine harm?what would be your estimate of ships destroyed by people who are griefing?What are logic are you using to come to these sort of conclusions?
Originally by: Barbelo Valentinian
As to "serious" - well it's not all that serious; it's not even all that serious to me personally (just a minor irritation). It's only somewhat serious for CCP if they want the game to continue to grow and not stagnate
Now you have gone from 'OMGTEHSKYISFALLING' to 'it's not that serious'.
Originally by: Barbelo Valentinian
I could care less about convincing anybody
Perhaps if you cared you wouldn't have failed.
I'm done with you and now rest my case.
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2008.04.06 12:40:00 -
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They're a means to an end for destroying BoB, once done the hammer will fall on them and frankly I think they'll love it.
No hate, just kill them all and let the GMs sort them out.
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Papa Ina
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Posted - 2008.04.06 12:48:00 -
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I hate Goonswarm because their high SP players are decidedly average at PvP and rely on spamming pure newbies to win fights. They abuse ingame and out of game mechanics constantly (see portrait pack) and have had players banned for bookmark bombing. They have only ever won because they hack other alliances teamspeak servers. They talk big without being able to back it up and I'll be glad when they are finally removed from 0.0 space.
I think it is terrible that CCP actively endorses allowing them to harass, nay should I say grief, peaceful miners in high security space. Especially since they have openly admitted to trying to tarnish CCPs good name. I suspect this may due to the numbers of DEVS playing inside the Goonies. A fact they are often shy to admit but was mentioned by CCP themselves during a New york Times interview.
C/D [GOONS] has added nothing to this community?
tl;dr **** goons.
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Barbelo Valentinian
Liberty Corporation
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Posted - 2008.04.06 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Barbelo Valentinian on 06/04/2008 18:19:31
Originally by: Doonoo Boonoo
Goodbye Ankh
Haha, if you think I'm Ankh then you really haven't been reading my posts. She's either barking mad or a ******* brilliant troll, and my position bears hardly any relation to hers at all.
I can understand you not bothering to read my posts carefully though, I can imagine they look somewhat wall-of-textish, especially if you're drunk
But seriously, try actually reading the posts you respond to some time, you might find it's actually more intellectually rewarding than thwacking strawmen of your own devising.
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Marcus TheMartin
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.04.06 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: Erik Amirault
Edited by: Erik Amirault on 06/04/2008 07:24:45
Goons don't care if they are liked or not. I don't want to be anyone's e-friend because that is pathetic. You heard right, it's pathetic. Make some real friends and stop being such a loser if you think that's how games should be played.
I think I totally just joined the right squad 
we get it you are in goonswarm shut up already
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Cissnei
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.07 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Daylen Drazzi
Edited by: Daylen Drazzi on 05/04/2008 14:30:58
Edited by: Daylen Drazzi on 05/04/2008 14:30:14
Originally by: Tommy Meow
Goonswarm? You mean those SA guys who openly stated that they want to destroy EVE Online?
Naww man, why would we hate them? I mean, racist, sexist, irreverent, scamming, thieving, foul-mouthed bunch of people who still haven't outgrown their pre-pubescent years?
Naww, we couldn't hate them, could we?
Christ, are people still bringing up that crap about us wanting to destroy the game? If that had even a hint of truth to it don't you think our membership would have all but disappeared in the light of CCP's investigations? Sorry pal, but you've fallen for some PR hack's line of bull****. We're still here, we're still playing, and we're still having fun. Next meme.
And let's see - thieving and scamming are considered legitimate tactics in the game and are practiced far more competently by other alliances and folks back in empire - don't go lumping that mess completely on us. We at least let you know that if you're stupid enough to not follow recruitment procedures and try to bypass them by floating around some isk that you'll be losing some money. We're very honest in that regard. Actually, you can trust us that we'll do it.
Hmm, sexist, racist, irreverent and foul-mouthed - you got us on that one. But then, so are you. So is pretty much everyone at one time. You keep throwing that **** in our face, so we run with it because of how much it ****es you off. You're nothing special, and you sure as hell aren't some patron saint of tolerance for multi-cultural diversity, so get down off the high horse.
So some of you hate Goonfleet - works for us. Go ahead and wardec us over it. Come to 0.0 and give the folks who didn't move to Delve something to shoot at. Just head south - we won't be that hard to find.
the following is a direct quote from the linked wired article made by the so-called man in charge of the goons in EVE
"The ability to inflict that huge amount of actual, real-life damage on someone is amazingly satisfying" says Houston. "The way that you win in EVE is you basically make life so miserable for someone else that they actually quit the game and don't come back."
forcing players to outright quit the game is in some way, to you, NOT destroying EVE I guess. i also guess cats crap rainbow-colored eggs in your world too
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Atomusuku
Trill Crabulas
Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2008.04.07 11:31:00 -
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Irrational fear of BEES?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2008.04.07 11:51:00 -
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Noboidy hates tehm. Gonns are a necessiety. It is like good vs ebil. If there are no good, there are no ebil. I persanoly would liek to join Goons ...
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Aero Zolic
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Posted - 2008.04.07 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Papa Ina
I hate Goonswarm because their high SP players are decidedly average at PvP and rely on spamming pure newbies to win fights. They abuse ingame and out of game mechanics constantly (see portrait pack) and have had players banned for bookmark bombing. They have only ever won because they hack other alliances teamspeak servers. They talk big without being able to back it up and I'll be glad when they are finally removed from 0.0 space.
I think it is terrible that CCP actively endorses allowing them to harass, nay should I say grief, peaceful miners in high security space. Especially since they have openly admitted to trying to tarnish CCPs good name. I suspect this may due to the numbers of DEVS playing inside the Goonies. A fact they are often shy to admit but was mentioned by CCP themselves during a New york Times interview.
C/D [GOONS] has added nothing to this community?
tl;dr **** goons.
At least somebody knows what he's talking about
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