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MacDowra1 Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.04.07 02:53:00 - [1] ice mining with a mick is there someway to use 2 ice harvester t2's in bottom slot together? I don't have enough cpu what am i doing wrong thanks mac
Alaris Nightshadow	Posted - 2008.04.07 03:31:00 - [2] your not doing anything wrong the Mack just doesn't have the CPU for it. The only way I know of to fit all T@ Ice Mining gear on a Mack is to buy one of the 3% CPU upgrade implants, I don't think the 1% gives enough of a boost to make it all fit. hardwiring - zainou 'gypsy' kmb-25 - 1% CPU Bonus hardwiring - zainou 'gypsy' kmb-50 - 3% CPU Bonus hardwiring - zainou 'gypsy' kmb-75 - 5% CPU Bonus ----------------------------------------------- "EVE isn't meant to look like a harsh, uncaring universe..........it is one..."
Clansworth	Posted - 2008.04.07 04:27:00 - [3] There is also a Slot 10 implant that reduces the mining upgrade CPU penalty, hardwiring - inherent implants 'highwall' hy-2, but slot 10 would be better utilized with a Yeti implant, if you truely want the best ice harvesting. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. New Prospector Class
Jurgen Cartis Interstellar Corporation of Exploration Nex Eternus	Posted - 2008.04.08 02:10:00 - [4] Originally by: Clansworth There is also a Slot 10 implant that reduces the mining upgrade CPU penalty, hardwiring - inherent implants 'highwall' hy-2, but slot 10 would be better utilized with a Yeti implant, if you truely want the best ice harvesting. It's not enough. Even an HY-2 with maxed out skills won't net you enough CPU to make it fit. You still need the KMB. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Neddy Fox Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2008.04.08 08:11:00 - [5] And even then you can't put anything in the mids. I already posted about this in the suggestion forums, the CPU grid of the Mack is just NOT right.
Lady Natacha Water and Power	Posted - 2008.04.09 00:17:00 - [6] Originally by: Alaris Nightshadow hardwiring - zainou 'gypsy' kmb-50 - 3% CPU Bonus This implant plus training Mining Upgrades to 4 will allow the fit of 2x Ice Harvester Upgrade II's and has been pointed out already, that is just about all you will fit. If you swap out one of the upgrades for a damage control unit you start having a bit of CPU room to fit a tank. My EVE sigs
Kobushi	Posted - 2008.04.09 15:36:00 - [7] that's why you want the best named one, it gives the same bonus but with an easier fit, at the price of a steep price...
Marcus Tedric Gallente Tedric Enterprises The Star League	Posted - 2008.04.10 07:30:00 - [8] I've seen this topic about the Mack' and fitting 2 x IHU IIs before..... Why is it that people seem to think that it should easily be able to fit 2 and thus the stats need to change? All fits on ships are and should be compromises.
Thenoran Caldari Knights of MADD	Posted - 2008.04.10 10:21:00 - [9] Originally by: Marcus Tedric I've seen this topic about the Mack' and fitting 2 x IHU IIs before..... Why is it that people seem to think that it should easily be able to fit 2 and thus the stats need to change? All fits on ships are and should be compromises. Difference is a Drake doesn't need to gimp its ability to engage a target in order to tank a million spawns, but a Mackinaw has to sacrifice everything to be able to mine Ice better then a Hulk. ------------------------ Mining over 4000m3 per cycle...with a Rokh
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration Nex Eternus	Posted - 2008.04.10 19:49:00 - [10] Originally by: Marcus Tedric I've seen this topic about the Mack' and fitting 2 x IHU IIs before..... Why is it that people seem to think that it should easily be able to fit 2 and thus the stats need to change? All fits on ships are and should be compromises. It's not a matter of easy, it's a matter of possible. On a Hulk or Skiff, fitting 2 MLU IIs means gimping the tank. That is the compromise that all ships make. More gank /yield = less tank. But to sacrifice tank, you have to have tank to sacrifice in the first place. A maxed out character fitting 2 T2 Harvesters and 2 T1 upgrades has 22 CPU left to work with. That means you're leaving at least 2 midslots (and likely 3) empty. What we want is for the Mack to have enough CPU that it can fit T1 upgrades and a decent tank, OR T2 upgrades and a gimpy tank. As it is, you can fit T1 upgrades and a pathetic tank, or T2 (with implants) and a Civilian Shield Booster. You'll get more hp/s out of a Mack's passive shield recharge than you will from that Civilian Booster. The only reason people use the Mack is because ice is so necessary to Eve as we know it. Some people have swapped to Hulks for ice mining because the fittings on a Mack are really that poor. A Hulk with T2 upgrades and T2 Harvesters produces just as much ice as a Mack without upgrades, and a Mack with upgrades is simply asking for a jihadswarm gank. Yes, if both ships fit decent tanks, a Hulk is on par with the Mackinaw (the specialist ice miner) for bringing in ice. At Exhumers III or IV, the Hulk pulls slightly ahead (Mack is only on par at Exhumers V). If any combat ship had this kind of fitting problems, it would have been fixed long ago. It would be like a Caracal having the same base CPU as a Kestrel, despite having 1 more launcher and launchers that are more CPU-hungry. If you can find a single combat ship that lacks the CPU (PG is another story) to fit a full rack of weapons and 2 Damage Mods (1 if it only has one low) with all of its midslots empty and maxed out skills, then you've found a ship that has to make just as much of a 'compromise' as the Mack does. Then ask yourself, does anyone ever fly a ship that's that gimped? Tell me, what other ship routinely flies with 3 empty slots? Given 250 base CPU (yes, it really is gimped THAT badly), a Mack can fit T1 upgrades and something like a tank, but it will require good skills to jam all that in. If it tries to fit T2 Upgrades, the tank is much diminished (as it should be). tl;dr version: Skiff: 188 CPU, 1 Laser at 60 CPU Mack: 188 CPU, 2 Lasers at 66 CPU each Hulk: 300 CPU, 3 Lasers at 60 CPU each -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Docain M. Corp	Posted - 2008.04.11 08:17:00 - [11] Originally by: Jurgen Cartis Skiff: 188 CPU, 1 Laser at 60 CPU Mack: 188 CPU, 2 Lasers at 66 CPU each Hulk: 300 CPU, 3 Lasers at 60 CPU each This. I suggest giving the Mack an averaged CPU of (300+188)/2 = 244 and on top of that another 10%, since Ice Harvesters II use 10% more CPU for no reason. We're at 268.4 tf CPU then.

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