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MobyMule
PoliCratton Technologies Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.04.08 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: MobyMule on 08/04/2008 13:31:24
Originally by: Lou Cypher
Originally by: Namusis Edited by: Namusis on 08/04/2008 12:48:12 ro3 is resisting MH they thought they could reppel the force of MH. Ro3 says MH backstabbed them but that is not tru they backstabbed MH by going to a merc to hire and kill of MH. So i think you had this **** coming from miles away and did not even noticed. pretty bad owell another alliance dead
First post remotely related to the truth - Ive seen the proof with my own eyes - in time it will be published.. Still Ro3 are showing a lot of heart and should be added to the list of "honorable pilots" imho :))
Thanks for the compliments. I don't see why you need to wait to publish it. I had a blast though the last day or so.
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ezraniel
An Eye For An Eye
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Posted - 2008.04.08 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kekzanid
In a way I'm not surprised it blew up in their face, ni4ni lost virtually all their pvpers and EMD self destructed (what you still doing in ni4ni Ezraniel?!?).
euh... I like it in here? :D Lots of nice guys eventhough most people i get along good are in the US timezone and I'm EU :D
Tbh kek, or anyone who cares, Ni4Ni has done nothing i find offensive or would otherwise push me to leave Ni4Ni, all the asshattery Ro3 leadership was doing on the otherside made me very happy Ni4Ni left. no offence to the leaders personally (Brka, Love you man) but to many blue's, to many politics, it should've been, agress and die, not agress, we talk to your diplo's, perhaps we fight, probably we'll nap you.
Originally by: Kekzanid
ro3's biggest problem was that we had too many blues and even tho we (the pvpers) constantly asked to reset a lot of useless alliances blue was always deemed best. I think the alliance leader (Brka) might have always had selling the space at the back of his mind. He's a good guy, but I knew something wasn't quite right when we virtually insta-napped ka-tet split off carpe universitas.
All this stuff about someone hiring someone to attack MH is nonsense.
First off, Hiring someone to attack MH is again, *******s, RULE had no interest in MH's space, as some corps where staging a retreat from the dronelands because of it just being NO DAM FUN :<
2ndly, all that *******s about "it will be published in time", well this is the time isn't it? every john doe that ever said that never published a single shred of proof, you act like you have credentials and proof to back yourself up but untill I see it on the table you have no proof. Oh, and chatlogs won't do, since i can open up gedit or textpad as well to edit in what I want.
Look, lets say it like it was, Ni4Ni was pulling towers since we where done with the drone regions, MH saw the lack of Sov as a easy chance for a landgrab at the moons and they did. No one is going to dislike you over telling the truth but all this beating about the bush is just nonsense.
you guys saw your chance, took it, succeeded, YAYYY good for you, see? isn't it fun to tell the truth instead of trying to make up proof we backstabbed you?
Ezraniel - Ex Rule Of Three FC
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Kekzanid
7th Space Cavalry R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.08 13:50:00 -
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hehe, fair enough, hope I get a chance to fly with you again at some point o7 Just seemed virtually all the pvp pilots we flew with scattered!
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Wake Void
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.08 16:00:00 -
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Interesting stuff you can see on eve-files...
Top Secret!
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John Vicothnic
Svea Rike SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.08 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: MobyMule Edited by: MobyMule on 07/04/2008 12:38:37 Here is what really went down.
MH comes to us(Ro3) and says you have two hours to either hand us the space or we start taking it. They had fleets already in place. We were blue to them so this came as quite a shock to us. We had just cut alot of fat and were making good inroads with getting everything back to the levels they needed to be at. MH claimed they would just hold sov and "give it back" once we showed we could defend it. Well after council and realizing we were way outgunned and did not have the bank for a long drawn out war with MH we agreed to pull out. MH repeatedly broke agreements of ceasefire due to misinformation and imho outright made up intel so they could have some flimsy excuse to shoot our stuff and steal it.
This was a land grab pure and simple. Instead of being a true ally and friend to help us get to where they wanted us to be(which we were very close) they take the space to futher their moon mining and super capital building for all you big giant alliances out there.
I can not speak for others but when PCTI agrees to do something we always hold our end of the bargain. We are a corp of our word and always have been. I hope MH has fun in their new space. We will go and regroup and will continue to have fun as a corp and an alliance.
HaHa well this rings a bell.. remember about one year ago and an Alliance named TRE?
We had some problem loosing some corps etc and while blue you guys come to MK-YNM setting up poses claiming it was to help us out untill we got our **** togather again?:) hmm what did honreble RO3 do oh yeah. they formed al there guys in the system and then attacked us!:) not only that you brought FREGE in for the battle =) most halarius thing with it was that in the end when Smashkill came to join the fight and we where knocking on you'r door you had Razor comming in and meddle 
atlest MH gave you guys a fair warning.
not bitter or anything "or no yes i am" anyho. could not ressist to replay when i read stuff about being true and things like that heh..
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ezraniel
An Eye For An Eye
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Posted - 2008.04.08 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: John Vicothnic
atlest MH gave you guys a fair warning.
To be honest, RULE gave TRE a fair warning back then, multiple weeks of warning, followed by offers to assist, then taking over.
MH said: Get your **** together or we attack 2 days later: Screw it, CYNO IS UP !!!!
no offence to MH, you guys have some nice guys in the alliance, don't know the rest of you guys, but comming in here without inside knowledge of what happened or what warning MH actually gave out is a bit stupid to say the least
anyways, as i said before, all is said & done and MH has the field, kudos and enjoy the space.
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King Leopold
Congo Free State DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:24:00 -
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is it just me or is this as plainly obvious to everyone.
- Ro3 tells MH that they are selling their space - why? (that's the first question I would ask). - MH determines that instead of paying 38B (as asked) for the space, they offer 10B - Ro3 declines the amended offer (after they pulled their pants down). - MH gets smart and says.. **** that! - let's take it.
Napolean had a great quote.
"Never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.."
There u go. --
Read my Corp Blog - Congo Free State
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Valfar Sogndal
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.04.08 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: King Leopold is it just me or is this as plainly obvious to everyone.
- Ro3 tells MH that they are selling their space - why? (that's the first question I would ask). - MH determines that instead of paying 38B (as asked) for the space, they offer 10B - Ro3 declines the amended offer (after they pulled their pants down). - MH gets smart and says.. **** that! - let's take it.
Napolean had a great quote.
"Never interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake.."
There u go.
I think that's about right but just slight amendment from what I can make of the situation:
MH didn't want reds moving in on their doorstep, it was either they took the space or hostiles took the space. Given the situation I think almost every alliance in the game would have acted the way MH did (assuming they had the logistics).
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.04.08 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: King Leopold is it just me or is this as plainly obvious to everyone.
Its just you. I can understand how you see something, however, seeing as how the spies and traitors who offlined our towers are in your Corp. Nice of you to supposedly provide MH the excuse to break the ceasefire by offering a contract to attack them. Those two facts make a lot of things pretty obvious.
Originally by: King Leopold
- Ro3 tells MH that they are selling their space - why? (that's the first question I would ask).
How about because as a trusted ally for over 2 years we wanted them to have the space? Cuz 2 years of broken CCP mechanics and Drone Region boredom meant we wanted another home?
Originally by: King Leopold
- MH determines that instead of paying 38B (as asked) for the space, they offer 10B
Yah, they did. 10 Bill for 3 stations and 30+ star systems is an insult we did not deserve. I told my alliance I'd buy it all personally for that and hold it myself rather than take such an insulting offer.
Originally by: King Leopold
- Ro3 declines the amended offer (after they pulled their pants down).
Pants were still up... maybe it was one of your traitors/spies in MH that broke the news public. All discussions were very secure and only going thru MH high command. First public post was from MH.
Originally by: King Leopold
- MH gets smart and says.. **** that! - let's take it.
It would have been much smarter to pay the asked price, slowly achieve soverignty up to the critical cyno-jammer level 3 sov, and present the rest of Eve with a Fiat Accompli when we finally turned off the last tower and left. Now, there is half a region without any soverignty and one station system that they will have to fight for, since they broke the ceasefire.
Sorry, King Leper, but your arguments don't hold water and you have spies and traitors in your midst willingly. I'm sure people will be looking your way with quite a bit of suspicion.
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Gralg Merglen
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.04.08 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Gralg Merglen on 08/04/2008 22:19:22 i don't really care who is right or wrong here and i'll probably get in trouble for posting this but i'm just glad we have some reds that aren't 60+ jumps away 
*edit* Ro3 don't smack and they've put up a brave fight, **** off alts.
Originally by: Graalum
I can also confirm that the guristas pirates have a titan. We tried to kill it but unfortunately it mwded away at 5k/second and smacked us in local.
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LOLROFL
Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.04.08 23:17:00 -
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Drone region politics, f*ck yeah.
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pillowkitten
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.09 01:38:00 -
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WAAAAAAAAA WAAAAA
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Rikelov
The Outriders
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Posted - 2008.04.09 02:05:00 -
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"To be honest MH haven't got the capability to hold that space anyway, 90% of the time their drone space has 5 or 10 people in the entire region."
After a quick look at your killboards I have surmised that the MH force has learned about the much-guarded secret of jump clones.
To my old friends in MH, bout time you scratched some of those shiny toys ;)
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Digicomm
The Digital Communists
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Posted - 2008.04.09 02:07:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi stuff
Moon mining not going so well? sup?
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A wiseman
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Posted - 2008.04.09 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kekzanid Edited by: Kekzanid on 08/04/2008 13:31:59Especially sweet was that several ex-EMD had joined Destiny, they'd rampaged through Ro3 space while still in EMD shooting alliance members before they left. Whichever Destiny corp took Marrick Hammond, you deserve that guy, he thinks he's a pvp God cause he can gank n00bs in Mai. He is very good at shooting at blues though, I'll give him that.
i liked the part about where in your view anyhow you called your own guy a noob
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Kekzanid
7th Space Cavalry R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.09 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kekzanid on 09/04/2008 11:31:13 Well, I'm not in his corp anymore so I can actually say yes, the guy who died to the Mai gang is one of those guys who will always be a n00b at eve.
I just don't get why *any* corp would ever accept people like Marick Hammond into their corp, those guy who used to pirate in Mai instead of helping with ops are just going to do exactly the same to Destiny at some point.
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Kazua
Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.09 12:26:00 -
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Didn't Ro3 do this to some alliance before? In MK-? Asked Tre Kroner I think it was to secure their space or Ro3 would attack?
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MobyMule
Minmatar PoliCratton Technologies Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:08:00 -
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Well I am not qualified to speak on that past action since PCTI was not in RULE when that happened. But it is ironic to say the least :)
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ezraniel
Caldari An Eye For An Eye
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Posted - 2008.04.09 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kazua Didn't Ro3 do this to some alliance before? In MK-? Asked Tre Kroner I think it was to secure their space or Ro3 would attack?
yes but different situation.
tre was dropping sov over multiple weeks and even was offered financial aid to get pos's up.
after long waiting sov kept dropping without accepting the loan and RULE secured the space since Tre was considered a security risk iirc.
MH on the other hand, never gave RULE more then 20 hours warning :)
anyways.... /Care
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Reckless Hope
Screams Of The Undead
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Posted - 2008.04.09 19:15:00 -
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first it was MH attack without warning than it was they attack with only 2 hour warning, now it's up to 20 hours. it's hard to keep track of all the back tracking. it sounds like r03 were a risk in the area so they were taken out. isn't that what ro3 did to someone else? whats the diffence?
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Lindvere
TOHA Heavy Industries Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.09 19:37:00 -
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Explanation of what happent between TRE and Ro3 in good old CAOD Fashion
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=507936
Tada !
oh and by the way Rule of three offered TRE Kroner 10b for theyre space i guess that is the same offer Mostly Harmless offers them now .. seems fair enough to me ...
Oy payback is a *****.
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Lindvere
TOHA Heavy Industries Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.09 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lindvere Explanation of what happent between TRE and Ro3 in good old CAOD Fashion
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=507936
Tada !
oh and by the way Rule of three offered TRE Kroner 10b for theyre space i guess that is the same offer Mostly Harmless offers them now .. seems fair enough to me ...
Oy payback is a *****.
Quoting Brka
Security Risk = Problem. Bad Communication = Problem. Things not adding up = Problem.
We solved the problem. We have a history of removing alliances in the new regions that are one way or another a security threat. You have no capital fleet that you could speak of and you are not the ''Rule of Three'' that was given that space months ago.
I think that sums it up.
with some fixes of course =D
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Reckless Hope
Screams Of The Undead
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Posted - 2008.04.09 20:35:00 -
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just looks like a repeat of history. looks like r03 had it coming. but what will MH do with the space?
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Anton Marx
Caldari Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.09 20:53:00 -
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MH: "Knock, knock"  Ro3: Who's there?  MH: "All your base are belong to us!"  Ro3: "Aight" 
Is this what happened? 
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Sgt Blade
Caldari Save Yourself Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 23:22:00 -
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can you all stop fighting and play nice??? 
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EliteSlave
Minmatar Altruism.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: EliteSlave on 09/04/2008 23:41:45 tick tock my work is done,
I guess Necro couldnt buy enough isk to save ur butt's this time?
winner winner chicken dinner!
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FredFred Burger
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.04.10 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lindvere
Quoting Brka
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You're having to sc*****pretty low there...
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FredFred Burger
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.04.10 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: EliteSlave Edited by: EliteSlave on 09/04/2008 23:41:45 tick tock my work is done,
I guess Necro couldnt buy enough isk to save ur butt's this time?
winner winner chicken dinner!
I thought it was Brka doing all the isk buying... what with the 87- station, then the we're gonna hire people to kill you AoD... etc etc...
Ro3 keeps isk farmers in the game!
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Marick Hammond
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Posted - 2008.04.11 03:06:00 -
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Hi Kekzanid! I don't remember bragging myself up, but you sure can talk, cutey pie! I don't even remember you, which is probably good.
Here's what I do know...I didn't waste hours of my life flying in fail ops with Ro3, dying under ******** FCs for space that isn't worth anybody's time or energy. I stopped flying with RULE about the same time that you and the other failcats joined up. Considering the history of RULE, and the wonderful job of misery-putting-out that MH has done to that worthless alliance following several months of decline and theft (thus earning themselves that tainted space that can only lead to more fail), I'd say I made the correct decision.
Hugs and Kisses!
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Vactet
SiK Elite
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Posted - 2008.04.15 23:45:00 -
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Drone Regions..a never ending source of drama.. And...its not even good drama.
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