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Khatred ReallyPissedOff Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2008.04.09 10:23:00 - [31] I am afraid one of these days I'm gonna get the shaft from CCP because inventors compete with other inventors disregarding the profit at times. Wich is not neccesarily bad as this is a game and if a player chooses to get into invention and t2 production just for the sake of it and not for profit. The problem however is that the whaambulance patients will cry threads of tears about how this is the t2 bpos holders fault. And probably CCP will remove the t2 bpos or change them to bpcs because they developed a habbit of listening to whines lately. And then it will be the fault of "too low entry barriers", " moon mining cartels", "the % in invention", "42", etc. etc. etc. If anything invention should be improved to increase competition in the ME/PE as well (as in having those values in the positive). Ways to alter them should be added ,giving more choices to the dedicated inventors/manufacturers. Obviously I don't want my bpos taken from me. Because I worked for them, a concept with apparently eludes the stupid participants in this forums. I mined, I built t1 ships, I sold ammo and bpcs and I did missions. And then I afforded to buy t2 bpos and so on. Or maybe it's my fault that I started playing much earlier than other people. Should I apologise?
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2008.04.09 10:38:00 - [32] Originally by: Khatred I am afraid one of these days I'm gonna get the shaft from CCP because inventors compete with other inventors disregarding the profit at times. Wich is not neccesarily bad as this is a game and if a player chooses to get into invention and t2 production just for the sake of it and not for profit. The problem however is that the whaambulance patients will cry threads of tears about how this is the t2 bpos holders fault. And probably CCP will remove the t2 bpos or change them to bpcs because they developed a habbit of listening to whines lately. And then it will be the fault of "too low entry barriers", " moon mining cartels", "the % in invention", "42", etc. etc. etc. If anything invention should be improved to increase competition in the ME/PE as well (as in having those values in the positive). Ways to alter them should be added ,giving more choices to the dedicated inventors/manufacturers. Obviously I don't want my bpos taken from me. Because I worked for them, a concept with apparently eludes the stupid participants in this forums. I mined, I built t1 ships, I sold ammo and bpcs and I did missions. And then I afforded to buy t2 bpos and so on. Or maybe it's my fault that I started playing much earlier than other people. Should I apologise? Dear Sir I am not sure if you have already applied as candidate for CSM or not? In case You did I assure You that my vote goes to You. If the reply to that question is negative then what are You waiting for? Sincerely Your fanboi :D
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.04.09 10:40:00 - [33] I think they should remain in game but not in its current state. CCP should make sure that there is a possibiity for others to obtain T2 BPOs from the current holders. One way could be an yearly auction when the T2 BPO-holder have to put out his/her BPO. BPO-owners should however be able to put an insane openingamount (like a few trillion ISK, or some non static upper limit). This would ensure that the possibility, financially viable or not, to obtain T2 BPOs are there. CCP should also make sure to seed (lottery or in some other way) new BPOs as the old ones gets destroyed.
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2008.04.09 10:40:00 - [34] Originally by: Don Z0LA If the reply to that question is negative then what are You waiting for? I think if the answer is no, he is waiting for next round since theres closed for the applicants at this point
Omber Zombie Gallente Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2008.04.09 12:02:00 - [35] my opinion - invention has helped destroy 90% of the t2 market profitability for manufacturers, the remaining 10% is fuelled by t2 bpo's that can't be competed with by invention (ammo/drones mostly). Removing t2 bpo's would do nothing but destroy that last 10% and do nothing for the remaining 90% (which most sell either below production cost or up to 10% above) ---------------------- CSM 08 Blog \| 1st Campaign Vid
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.09 12:18:00 - [36] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Juwi Kotch Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Danton Marcellus First sensible candidate in favor of bringing the lottery back gets my vote. Im interested in hearing a sensible argument as to why you want the lottery back. The job of the CSM is to listen to the community, not to push forward personal interests He's one of those who won many (!!) T2 BPOs in the lottery. And not only ammo BPOs... Juwi Kotch Oh, im very well aware of the rather... lets just say large portfolio of T2 BPO's these guys had(have?). But having read a few posts in the past, im fairly sure Danton can make a sound argument why it should be introduced again. I only won some 8-10 blueprints, one was taken back due to not being used, I think, micro plasma smartbomb II. Could it be charisma being a hidden attribute in the equation for the lottery or did t20 just have a soft spot for me? Why I want the lottery back? I want it run parallel with invention with every job having a microscopical chance of producing an original blueprint. Oh yes that's how not why, I blame beer. Why then, because more tech II BPOs gradually entering the game and the items produced with them can keep being an intrical part of production even when we're on tech V given each tech level before it is required to produce the next step. What tech II and future levels need is more moons with materials worth a damn, depletable caches as suggested, not eternal grinding for datacores and blueprint copies. I'm not a gerbil! That's some sort of an argument, mind's clouded today, will make more sense once back in the world. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Julia Newmatar Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.04.09 12:51:00 - [37] Edited by: Julia Newmatar on 09/04/2008 12:51:40 So would it be correct to say that based on all the arguments here about the reduced value of T2 BPO's and the fact that BPC's can in fact make more money, that T2 BPO owners would be happy and supportive of an plan to convert all T2 BPO's to limited run T2 BPC's. Or is it all just a bunch of talk trying to downplay the value of the T2 BPO's that you own to prevent this happening?
Khatred ReallyPissedOff Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2008.04.09 13:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Julia Newmatar Edited by: Julia Newmatar on 09/04/2008 12:51:40 So would it be correct to say that based on all the arguments here about the reduced value of T2 BPO's and the fact that BPC's can in fact make more money, that T2 BPO owners would be happy and supportive of an plan to convert all T2 BPO's to limited run T2 BPC's. Or is it all just a bunch of talk trying to downplay the value of the T2 BPO's that you own to prevent this happening? I will be very happy and supportive to that plan when the ships you bought will get a limited numbers of undockings. After n number of undockings, your ship goes poof. Fair enough?
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.04.09 13:18:00 - [39] Originally by: Khatred Originally by: Julia Newmatar Or is it all just a bunch of talk trying to downplay the value of the T2 BPO's that you own to prevent this happening? I will be very happy and supportive to that plan when the ships you bought will get a limited numbers of undockings. After n number of undockings, your ship goes poof. Fair enough? Konsidaering the suggesions here, I aslo support destruktion timers for alles items. After oene month, items will be no moar. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Recruitment -KB-
Omber Zombie Gallente Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2008.04.09 14:47:00 - [40] was wondering when you'd get here Khatred ---------------------- CSM 08 Blog \| 1st Campaign Vid
Anson Halleck Lost Eden	Posted - 2008.04.09 14:56:00 - [41] Edited by: Anson Halleck on 09/04/2008 14:56:41 Originally by: Adria Eqviis Hello all, Hello CSM candidates, I've browsed a few CSM candidate statements by now, and no one seems to have thought about the - well, issue - of T2 Blueprint Originals that remain in game from the lottery. My opinion is that some of them disturb the T2 market very hard; a small number of them probably is a licence to print ISK. I'm hoping to hear each CSM candidate say what they think about this. Statements in this thread are OK, statements on your websites (with a link in this thread) are better :). -Adria Eqviis Have you noticed what prices are people paying for T2 BPOs these days? There is a Hulk BPO for sale in Sell Orders. It makes about 24B per year and start bid is 60B. I have no doubt it will sell. Now please tell me, how will this be "License to print ISK" for the auction winner? After he paid 60B+ for it? It would take him almost 3 years to make the investment back. Inventors can build same ship with fraction of this investment. Your opinion would make some sense, if T2 BPOs were in hands of those who won them in lottery. But in most cases they are not. They are owned by people who paid for them, often price equal to 2-3 years profit.
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.04.09 15:06:00 - [42] I'm not a CSM candidate but I've got an opinion. Originally by: Julia Newmatar So would it be correct to say that based on all the arguments here about the reduced value of T2 BPO's and the fact that BPC's can in fact make more money, that T2 BPO owners would be happy and supportive of an plan to convert all T2 BPO's to limited run T2 BPC's. Or is it all just a bunch of talk trying to downplay the value of the T2 BPO's that you own to prevent this happening? Unless you meant unlimited run, researchable bpcs, you're going to get a lot of resistance on that idea just like CCP did when they suggested it in an old invention thread. It doesn't matter whether it's a thousand runs or a billion, people bought these tech 2 blueprints under the assumption that they would function for an unlimited number of runs and pulling the carpet out from underneath their feet will **** them off. The T2 bpo system itself was flawed but we're stuck with it and its saving grace has been the profit-balancing action of invention which was deployed around it without interfering with use or value of bpos. I wrote a short article a while ago as a case for converting t2 bpos into infinite run, researchable bpcs (or more specifically for disabling of copying on them) here: http://www.eve-tanking.com/20080124.html The basic argument was that Tech 2 production from bpos was a stabilising agent in the economy. You have people inventing t2 stuff for personal use, ignoring costs, but a lot of inventors know their profit margins and move onto another product when the margins get too thin. Being able to research positive ME on a bpo is the only thing that keeps the supply from bpos profitable when inventors have competed on a particular product to the point that they've removed their profit. It will always be more expensive to build any particular T2 item by invention than from a bpo because the bpo has lower build costs due to having positive ME and invention has datacore and bpc costs to take into account. If it wasn't, it would be possible for invention to be profitable on a particular item but not production from bpos and this is not what we want. We want production from original blueprints to be profitable but without the massive profit margins we used to have before invention. We have that - invention pushes prices down whenever there's profit to be had by inventing but it shouldn't ever push profit from producing with a bpo into the negative. It stops bpo owners having money-printing machines but allows them to produce for a profit. The supply of t2 items from BPOs is fairly constant as a bpo owner can not switch products and can only produce a small number of his product per month. Removing this supply would mean that T2 item supply (and thus prices) would be more volatile as when profit from invention waned and the inventors switched to another product, a higher percentage of the total supply to the market would stop. Having the supply from bpos establishes a baseline for supply to the market EVEN in the complete absence of invention-profitability on the product. The article I linked makes a case for T2 bpos being forced to be used for production by disabling their ability to be copyied and how this is a positive thing for the economy. For reference, I own several bpos and I copy them rather than produce them or sell/rent them to someone who can produce them. What I am doing is bad for the T2 markets and I wish it to stop. Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.04.09 18:37:00 - [43] Edited by: Wendat Huron on 09/04/2008 18:38:16 More stuff not less. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2008.04.09 18:38:00 - [44] Originally by: Julia Newmatar Edited by: Julia Newmatar on 09/04/2008 12:51:40 So would it be correct to say that based on all the arguments here about the reduced value of T2 BPO's and the fact that BPC's can in fact make more money, that T2 BPO owners would be happy and supportive of an plan to convert all T2 BPO's to limited run T2 BPC's. Or is it all just a bunch of talk trying to downplay the value of the T2 BPO's that you own to prevent this happening? Only with complete disregard for my post. Quite the opposite in fact, more BPOs not less. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.09 21:25:00 - [45] So you are saying that the T2 BPO's were handed out in a lottery?? And that those that could use them because of their skill levels did and those that couldn't sold theirs to those that could?? and then Alliances formed around these arbitrary handouts of vast wealth production??? and then the flow of isk and and cost advantage from T2 BPO ownership was used to fund the Capital Ship Alliances that now dominate all the best moon mining areas??? So basically the game is over... at least for most players of Eve, whose only position possible in Eve is as rent paying peasants to provide the cannonfodder to defend their overlords assets?? Well imagine that. FORWARD THE REVOLUTION!
Peri Stark Gallente Blue Labs Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.09 21:48:00 - [46] I don't feel that this is an "issue" If enough people felt that the lottery system was so totally unfair then why is the lottery in real life so vastly popular around the world? People convinced CCP that having random people win BPO's was not fair so they changed it to invention which anyone that wants to put the time and isk into can do. The time involed with doing research or making copies on T2 BPO's is such that most people just don't do it. This along with the small number of BPO's means that they will never be able to control the market. If you want to take the T2 BPO's away from people that have them are you going to make it fair to the people that bought them instead of winning them? Are you going to have CCP give the billions of isk back to the people that have bought them from the winners? You wanted CCP to change it and they did, just let it go. In the interest of fair disclosure, yes one of my characters won a T2 BPO. Did I make billions and billions off of it? No. That BPO was just a small part of my over all game play. I drove myself crazy trying to optimize the use of it when I first won it. Once I decided to manufacture from it once in a while and not focus all of my attention on that one aspect of the game I was much happier. ================================================ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you!
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.09 21:51:00 - [47] Originally by: Comrade Commizzar So you are saying that the T2 BPO's were handed out in a lottery?? And that those that could use them because of their skill levels did and those that couldn't sold theirs to those that could?? and then Alliances formed around these arbitrary handouts of vast wealth production??? and then the flow of isk and and cost advantage from T2 BPO ownership was used to fund the Capital Ship Alliances that now dominate all the best moon mining areas??? So basically the game is over... at least for most players of Eve, whose only position possible in Eve is as rent paying peasants to provide the cannonfodder to defend their overlords assets?? Well imagine that. FORWARD THE REVOLUTION! Don't you ever talk about anything else? ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.09 22:14:00 - [48] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Comrade Commizzar So you are saying that the T2 BPO's were handed out in a lottery?? And that those that could use them because of their skill levels did and those that couldn't sold theirs to those that could?? and then Alliances formed around these arbitrary handouts of vast wealth production??? and then the flow of isk and and cost advantage from T2 BPO ownership was used to fund the Capital Ship Alliances that now dominate all the best moon mining areas??? So basically the game is over... at least for most players of Eve, whose only position possible in Eve is as rent paying peasants to provide the cannonfodder to defend their overlords assets?? Well imagine that. FORWARD THE REVOLUTION! Don't you ever talk about anything else? ************* No, not until the proletariat of Eve wake up and smash the Vet Bourgeoisie... "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles."
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.04.09 22:14:00 - [49] Originally by: Nyphur I wrote a short article a while ago as a case for converting t2 bpos into infinite run, researchable bpcs (or more specifically for disabling of copying on them) here: http://www.eve-tanking.com/20080124.html Interesting read, but afaik nothing support the theory that t2 bpcs coming from original T2 bpos would have to be used for the T3 manufacturing process. In fact, since invention already gives T2 bpcs, it would me more logical to use those. ------------------------------------------
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.09 22:23:00 - [50] Originally by: Comrade Commizzar Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Comrade Commizzar So you are saying that the T2 BPO's were handed out in a lottery?? And that those that could use them because of their skill levels did and those that couldn't sold theirs to those that could?? and then Alliances formed around these arbitrary handouts of vast wealth production??? and then the flow of isk and and cost advantage from T2 BPO ownership was used to fund the Capital Ship Alliances that now dominate all the best moon mining areas??? So basically the game is over... at least for most players of Eve, whose only position possible in Eve is as rent paying peasants to provide the cannonfodder to defend their overlords assets?? Well imagine that. FORWARD THE REVOLUTION! Don't you ever talk about anything else? *********** No, not until the proletariat of Eve wake up and smash the Vet Bourgeoisie... "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles." Isn't that covered by the BoB/Goonswarm conflict? ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)**
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.04.09 22:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Comrade Commizzar Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Comrade Commizzar So you are saying that the T2 BPO's were handed out in a lottery?? And that those that could use them because of their skill levels did and those that couldn't sold theirs to those that could?? and then Alliances formed around these arbitrary handouts of vast wealth production??? and then the flow of isk and and cost advantage from T2 BPO ownership was used to fund the Capital Ship Alliances that now dominate all the best moon mining areas??? So basically the game is over... at least for most players of Eve, whose only position possible in Eve is as rent paying peasants to provide the cannonfodder to defend their overlords assets?? Well imagine that. FORWARD THE REVOLUTION! Don't you ever talk about anything else? *********** No, not until the proletariat of Eve wake up and smash the Vet Bourgeoisie... "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles." Isn't that covered by the BoB/Goonswarm conflict? ************** No, they aren't properly indoctrinated.....
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.04.09 22:35:00 - [52] Originally by: DelboyTrotter Heres a solution, just remove then all from game.. These guys have already made their billions from them, its not like any of them had to put any effort to get them, besides either knowing a GM or getting lucky in the lottery. The only ppl that will whine and be effected by this are the rich few that currently own one. :D Ahahahahahah. Seriously, the ignorance dripping from this post is hilarious. - The guy who bought the bpo in an auction the month before, how many billions do you think he made with it? - The getting lucky in the lottery part: Do you even have a clue how the lottery worked? It wasn't just blind luck, because the chances to get one were related to the effort you put in it. I know more than a dozen players who got T2 bpos via the lottery. Of them all, only one hadn't put any signifiant effort into R&D. One of them, who got several T2 prints, has 18 agents, will all skills maxed (yes, that's easily a year worth of SP), and spent hundreds of millions getting those skills, and did R&D missions every day, and spend countless hour increasing standings to get the best agents. There goes your argument about "...not like any of them had to put any effort to get them..." PS: Yes, I got a T2 BPO, after waiting a year, after devoting two months of my play time to R&D. I resold it immedialety. ------------------------------------------
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.04.09 23:01:00 - [53] Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Nyphur I wrote a short article a while ago as a case for converting t2 bpos into infinite run, researchable bpcs (or more specifically for disabling of copying on them) here: http://www.eve-tanking.com/20080124.html Interesting read, but afaik nothing support the theory that t2 bpcs coming from original T2 bpos would have to be used for the T3 manufacturing process. In fact, since invention already gives T2 bpcs, it would me more logical to use those. I didn't say anything of the sort. If you read the article carefully, I say that T2 bpcs (that are presumeed to have come from invention) will be used for T3 invention. If T2 bpo copying is allowed to continue, many producers will switch to copying and compete in that market, reducing production supply to the market. Given that the only benefit for T2 BPOs are their ability to produce cheaper than invented BPCs, giving people the option of copying is a bad idea. The only reason that this isn't a major factor yet is that the T2 bpc market isn't booming or even very profitable compared to production. If T3 hits and requires T2 bpcs, all that changes. I'm advocating prevention of an unpleasant market scenario by disabling copying on T2 bpos so that their role will be solely for production and they won't interfere with T3 invention in the long term. Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.
TornSoul BIG Soul of Fountain	Posted - 2008.04.09 23:22:00 - [54] Originally by: Omber Zombie my opinion - invention has helped destroy 90% of the t2 market profitability for manufacturers, the remaining 10% is fuelled by t2 bpo's that can't be competed with by invention (ammo/drones mostly). Removing t2 bpo's would do nothing but destroy that last 10% and do nothing for the remaining 90% (which most sell either below production cost or up to 10% above) I agree with my fellow CSM candidate Imo the problem with T2 BPO's never where the prints themself, but the way they where introduced into the game (the lottery), which imo where a rather un-inventive way from CCP to get them ingame. And they definatly arent a ISK machine any longer, invention took care of that - which can be tweaked if needed (currently I don't see any real need) The bad wrap T2 prins have gotten is mainly due to the fact that effort vs reward was way out of proportions on a subset of the prints. Today however, most (not all) of the efford vs reward has been equalized by the fact that most prints no longer are in the hands of the original owner (lottery winner), but instead in the hands of people who has paid quite alot of ISK for the prints. People buying T2 prints today mostly wont see a profit before 12/24 months. I don't see a problem with that tbh. BIG Lottery
Amanda Blue Gallente	Posted - 2008.04.09 23:45:00 - [55] Would anyone object to offering t2 bpos as rewards for R&D agents rp (this would be a lot) and then introducing t3 via invention only? This will give everyone a chance at the same thing and not the "privileged" few to own one. As of right now a T2 BPO holder has something that no one can get in game unless they buy it from the bpo holder. So if it doesn't have that much of a effect on the economy, why have them? Do you want to have something very rare that no one else can get unless you sell it for a extraordinary price?
Tek'a Rain Gallente Collegium Mechanicae	Posted - 2008.04.10 04:03:00 - [56] Originally by: Amanda Blue Would anyone object to offering t2 bpos as rewards for R&D agents rp (this would be a lot) and then introducing t3 via invention only? Making a T2 Print, any of them or worst of al, All of them, Available via a grind/farm RP system would kill the still-developing Invention system dead. Why invest in skills and decryptors and luck when you could do more missions. It does not matter if the amount is very high. CNRs were once barely attainable high-end status symbols, this more potent prize would be insanely farmed. Once the BPOs were available, and I consider something as simple as RP or LP 100% available, The t2 market would become the t1 market with one major difference. This vast increase in demand (for moon products) and their totally limited supply would become a bigger problem, concentrating even more isk in the POS operators while "I mined it so its free" thinking spreads to the t2 market and kills all profit margins. Current system has checks and balances. Removing BPOs breaks them one way. Making the BPOs 100% available breaks them a different way. This seems the rare event that something is Not broken and should not be fooled around with overmuch. I still think Invention needs some work, if nothing other then being able to reach neutral or slight positive research efficiencies in a cost effective manner.
Spaztick	Posted - 2008.04.10 06:51:00 - [57] Originally by: Khatred I will be very happy and supportive to that plan when the ships you bought will get a limited numbers of undockings. After n number of undockings, your ship goes poof. Fair enough? This happens to everyone eventually anyway.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.10 06:55:00 - [58] I'm Pro T2 BPOs Since when is Eve "fair?" ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!
Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.10 09:10:00 - [59] Default answer to t2 BPO whiners: 1. get ISKs 2. buy t2 BPO off other player 3. destroy said t2 BPO 4. problem solved
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2008.04.10 09:30:00 - [60] Originally by: Tek'a Rain Originally by: Amanda Blue Would anyone object to offering t2 bpos as rewards for R&D agents rp (this would be a lot) and then introducing t3 via invention only? Making a T2 Print, any of them or worst of al, All of them, Available via a grind/farm RP system would kill the still-developing Invention system dead. Why invest in skills and decryptors and luck when you could do more missions. It does not matter if the amount is very high. CNRs were once barely attainable high-end status symbols, this more potent prize would be insanely farmed. Once the BPOs were available, and I consider something as simple as RP or LP 100% available, The t2 market would become the t1 market with one major difference. This vast increase in demand (for moon products) and their totally limited supply would become a bigger problem, concentrating even more isk in the POS operators while "I mined it so its free" thinking spreads to the t2 market and kills all profit margins. Current system has checks and balances. Removing BPOs breaks them one way. Making the BPOs 100% available breaks them a different way. This seems the rare event that something is Not broken and should not be fooled around with overmuch. I still think Invention needs some work, if nothing other then being able to reach neutral or slight positive research efficiencies in a cost effective manner. A possible solution would be a system that guarantee a window of at least 6 months, better 1 year, between the introduction of a new T2 item and the first BPO for it available to the public (for example locking a R&D agent with the T1 BO and making him research it so it becoem a T2 BPO). That will leave a window of opportunity for inventers that will be the only people capable of introducing the new module/ship in the game for the first 6-12 months, to be then overtaken by people that has done the work to get a BPO. The system to get the BPO will require the player to be active (if done through a R&D agent, regular visit and missions should be done, if using a long term invention slot items must be added periodically), so that it will not be possible to let an account lay dormant for 1 year and then get a T2 BPo.

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