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CriticalHurt
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:40:00 -
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i would like to know how all the very rich people in eve got where they are
thanks
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flashfreaking
LFC
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:42:00 -
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I got there by not telling people like you.
See what I did here?
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W3370Pi4
Caldari
Lords Of Kaos
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: W3370Pi4 on 09/04/2008 15:46:01
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Asestorian
Domination.
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:46:00 -
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It is a pretty serious answer. Those who get rich hardly want to give away their secrets to potential competition.
However, rich people may have done it through trading, POS networks, stealing, scamming, suicide ganking, manufacturing. All kinds of things.
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flashfreaking
LFC
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:46:00 -
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Several got rich by playing the market, if they tell you the exact strategy, they get concurence, they don't like concurence => they don't tell it.
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ry ry
StateCorp
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 09/04/2008 15:58:54
CriticalHurt, your best bet will be to find a niche. something nobody else is doing.
i made half a bil in a week buying the "Armour Plates" salvage item for 1 isk a pop when it wasn't used in the production of any rigs. when that was patched i dumped it all the next day at 45k per unit, which was relatively cheap but netted me a massive profit without any hard work at all. i didn't even need to think about ratting for a couple of months.
holding out would have netted me more cash, because the price rose after the stockpiles the mission runners had been keeping ran out, but i'm not greedy and fast cash is where it's at.
that's just an example, and there were a few of us doing this so already people will be looking out for the next 'useless' item CCP are planning on giving a purpose. I have a sneaking suspicion that at least some of the people buying corpses in bulk are hoping they'll be able to do something with them in future.
just look what happens to ship prices whenever a buff is rumoured.
the other thing is day trading. buy low, sell high. lots of people doing it though, so make sure you know your ****. my last foray into day trading left me with a few hundred units of t1 resistance plating i don't particularly want.
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AleRiperKilt
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Posted - 2008.04.09 15:58:00 -
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Trading seems to be a good way since it is the only activity I found makes you money while you are offline.
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CriticalHurt
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Posted - 2008.04.09 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: ry ry
Edited by: ry ry on 09/04/2008 15:58:54
CriticalHurt, your best bet will be to find a niche. something nobody else is doing.
i made half a bil in a week buying the "Armour Plates" salvage item for 1 isk a pop when it wasn't used in the production of any rigs. when that was patched i dumped it all the next day at 45k per unit, which was relatively cheap but netted me a massive profit without any hard work at all. i didn't even need to think about ratting for a couple of months.
holding out would have netted me more cash, because the price rose after the stockpiles the mission runners had been keeping ran out, but i'm not greedy and fast cash is where it's at.
that's just an example, and there were a few of us doing this so already people will be looking out for the next 'useless' item CCP are planning on giving a purpose. I have a sneaking suspicion that at least some of the people buying corpses in bulk are hoping they'll be able to do something with them in future.
just look what happens to ship prices whenever a buff is rumoured.
the other thing is day trading. buy low, sell high. lots of people doing it though, so make sure you know your ****. my last foray into day trading left me with a few hundred units of t1 resistance plating i don't particularly want.
thank you
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.04.09 16:05:00 -
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Hmm - well, if you send me 100m isk, I'll tell you how to make money from gullible idiots 
If you're lazy but well-informed, you can earn quite good margins on a large amount of isk by gambling on how the value of certain items will change. Ideally, spend plenty of time on the test server, and look out for any interesting changes.
I can go one better than ry ry - I bought up several copies of the Astronautic Engineering skillbook when it was accidentally released last year and sold them to collectors at a 900% mark up. Granted, some people made a lot more isk that way than I did, but it taught me an important lesson - people are prepared to pay an enormous amount, even for complete junk, if the only way to get it is to pay an enormous amount.
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Corduroy Rab
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.04.09 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Corduroy Rab on 09/04/2008 16:13:14
If you are into trade and such activities, head over to the Market Discussion forum and check out some of the threads in the Essential Thread Sticky. I myself am not very rich as each time I have enough isk to buy a new toy I do and then promptly get it blown up, however, I have known many people in this game that have made billions in relatively short order by just running lvl4 missions.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.04.09 16:13:00 -
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collect underpants
???
profit!
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
LoneStar Industries
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.09 16:18:00 -
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Tehy all start earley and the time to maked moneh is not here aneymore.
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Keflin Geard
The Circle
STYX.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Keflin Geard on 09/04/2008 16:21:19
Not using polycarboned HACS is a great way to keep your ISK balance moving in the right direction
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.09 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 09/04/2008 16:21:58
There is hundreads of ways to make isk in this game. Mining and ratting have always been the slowest ways to make isk though. But there is a tried and tested method that has worked countless times for newbies.
Buy t2 pvper gear in jita.
Sell in warzones or in highsec nearist to hotspots (such as agil/Torrinos etc etc).
Do that till you get a few billion, use transport ship and never carry more than a couple hundred mill worth of stuff afk
From there, you will have seen enough of the game to know where to start creating oyur own supply/demand etc.
Or just run lvl4's. Whatever works for you.
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Stephannus Calimben
Trill Crabulas
Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2008.04.09 17:52:00 -
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suiciding haulers in highsec :)
create a new galente>Jin Mei>highest perception possible (saan go caste? i think)>military>soldier
Then train up weapon upgrades 1, destroyers 1, and electronics 1.
Buy yourself a shiny new gallente destroyer, and fit it with 8 small ion blaster 1's(filled with 6 caldari navy antimatter each), as many MFS's as you can fit, and a cargo scanner. Then get a few of your buddies to do the same, and get one person with a hauler alt. Then just sit off the jita gate scanning afk haulers, or on a trade route scanning autopiloters.
It takes some time, but every now and then someone autopilots a hauler full of zydrine, or a shuttle with an officer mod, or something like that, and you hit the big bucks. When we first started we were pulling in 200m drops an hour on average.
Also, for less money but higher probability of payouts, do the same thing vs highsec hulk pilots. They're usually quite expensively fit, and sincey our ships cost next to nothing anyways, its easy money.
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The PitBoss
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.09 18:01:00 -
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Check the recent DEV blog ... it should give you some ideas 
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Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2008.04.09 18:07:00 -
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Go back in time -> Win blueprints. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.09 18:08:00 -
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Rich of friends you are that's wealth. |
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Timaios
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.04.09 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: CriticalHurt
i would like to know how all the very rich people in eve got where they are
thanks
I won't give out any simple tips but instead a thought process you should have.
Where is the money?
Who wants to buy/sell what and where? Who carries what and where? And more importantly, how can I get the stuff from them or get stuff somewhere so I can sell it instead of some other random guy?
If you think about, say, minerals: where someone is mining for them? Where can I buy them cheaper and in larger quantities than elsewhere? Where do people need them? Where should I sell them to maximise my profits? How can I make sure that nobody disrupts my business?
Think what you want to do, try to find out a way to make the most money out of it. If it doesn't earn you much, switch fields or improve.
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Shintai
Gallente
Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.04.09 19:06:00 -
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Hard work, there is no easy way.
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
Merdaneth
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.04.09 19:18:00 -
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Rich is a relative term.
Its not a question of making lots of isk, its a question of making more than the competition to get rich.
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.04.09 19:45:00 -
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The trick to getting rich is not to spend cash.
Which means you can't have any fun flying ships and all that, since that costs isk.
So, who cares about being rich.
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Comrade Commizzar
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Posted - 2008.04.09 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gamer4liff
Go back in time -> Win blueprints.
Then use the isk flow from the T2 BPO's to buy up other T2 Bpo's from players that could not use them due to lack of skills....
Then use combined T2 BPO isk flow and T2 combat ship production expense advantage to fund Capital Ship Alliance to dominate best moon mining positions in zero...
Viola! You have won Eve and accomplished what the Capitalist Beta Bourgeoisie have done in Eve.
P.S Quit wasting you time trying to actually compete in this game because you can't. (Unless you are a member of the above elite.) Otherwise, do as your overlords dictate.... STFU and X-up in your ship to defend their property interests and be happy with the scraps they throw you from their table! Or perhaps wake up and join the Revolution.....
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Khatred
ReallyPissedOff
Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2008.04.09 20:34:00 -
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I am saving my story for my 5th anniversary
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Faife
Blackrain Solutions
Twilight Trade Cartel
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Posted - 2008.04.09 20:39:00 -
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run an alliance.
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alyassa
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
run an alliance.
Not sure running an alliance will make you rich unless you are stealing from the wallet....If anything it will contribute to you loosing all your money :)
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wolfbuzz
Gallente
Event.Horizon
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:08:00 -
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Trading: Buy low sell high
Ratting: Do a lot of it
Missions: Do a lot of it
Don't spend ISK unless you have to
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:11:00 -
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I've found the best way seems to be by amassing an ungodly amount of ISK. Some prefer exotic dancers, though.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:31:00 -
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T2 ships: Don't fly them
Rigs: Don't use them
Insurance: Always take it
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Burnharder
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: CriticalHurt
i would like to know how all the very rich people in eve got where they are
thanks
It's simple:
1 Start a corp,
2 Get lots of players to join it
3 Charge them 15% tax
4 Skim off the top into your personal account
5 ????
6 Profit!
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Jozeph Spinne
F.T.L. Trading
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Comrade Commizzar
...Stuff...Or perhaps wake up and join the Revolution.....
Where do I sign up?
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Ghengis Tia
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Ghengis Tia on 09/04/2008 21:54:56
Trading is the fastest way if you're just starting out in EVE. As another poster said, go to Market forums and glean tips.
It will take a lot of work, hauling stuff from market hub to market hub, hanging in a market hub station and keeping your prices the lowest (even by .01 Isk.)
Tenacity will enable you to sell your stuff quicker than the next guy. When you sell all of an item, they begin to sell theirs and the market is shared and no one gets too bent.
If you try to undercut by large percentages, you'll just hack off someone with a lot of Isk and they'll drive you out by pricing their stuff below your cost. Like I said, even .01 Isk lower is sufficient.
You'll need to familiarize yourself with all the information on the buy-sell order screen. There is a tab that will tell you the volume of the item selling, concentrate on getting those items at a lower price. They'll sell faster.
T2 modules, guns, launchers, etc. all sell well and have large margins once you get enough Isk to invest in them.
Tip of the day - Caldari Navy Missiles.
Check and adjust your prices as soon as you log on, between missions, and every time just before you log off.
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Nannageddon
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: CriticalHurt
i would like to know how all the very rich people in eve got where they are
thanks
GTCs
(joking!)
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.04.09 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Burnharder
Originally by: CriticalHurt
i would like to know how all the very rich people in eve got where they are
thanks
It's simple:
1 Start a corp,
2 Get lots of players to join it
3 Charge them 15% tax
4 Skim off the top into your personal account
5 ????
6 Profit!
Huh I wish
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2008.04.09 22:00:00 -
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AFK Income is the best way. Isk with minimal effort. Things like manufacturing and POS
Improve Market Competition! |
Bester Tradier
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Posted - 2008.04.09 22:19:00 -
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.04.09 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Comrade Commizzar
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
T2 ships: Don't fly them
Rigs: Don't use them
Insurance: Always take it
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Spoken like true peasant cannon-fodder!
FORWARD THE REVOLUTION!
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.04.09 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: CriticalHurt
i would like to know how all the very rich people in eve got where they are thanks
By finding other very rich people, and stealing their wealth.
For an individual, there isn't a more efficient way to do it.
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2008.04.09 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: CriticalHurt
i would like to know how all the very rich people in eve got where they are thanks
By finding other very rich people, and stealing their wealth.
For an individual, there isn't a more efficient way to do it.
Um... yeah
It doesn't have to be obvious theft either. Steal 90% of the value of an item from someone in a really nice trade deal is much the same thing; without all the hassle of alts and, um... dark hoods and crap.
Bandures > Tommy, you like a cowboy harry ) |
Martin Mckenna
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.09 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
run an alliance.
yep...your also welcomed on to everyones primary list in eve...
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.04.09 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
..... without all the... um... dark hoods and crap.
Some of us like dark hoods, and don't forget the fuzzy handcuffs, and perhaps little pvc rubber... mmmmmm... delicious.
By the way, what is this thread about anyway? I just saw "dark hoods" and had to reply. 
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Lady Valory
Caldari
Caldari Strike Force
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.04.10 00:00:00 -
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Back before they had RAM bpos...
I keyed all my alts to L4 production missions where the mission rewards were up to 100 RAM per mission...
Then I sold EVERYTHING down to the last raven...
Then I bought ALL the RAM EVERYWHERE I could... Pushing the price out to 350000 PU for RAM starship mods for example...
Then as the playerbase cried for the RAM bpos, I spammed L4 couriers missions for weeks and slowly sold off all the RAM stockpiles into the T2 bpo holders...
That was my first 10 billion...
Most of the other secrets I use havent been nerfed yet, so I cant share those.
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Tommy TenKreds
Animal Mercantile Executive
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Posted - 2008.04.10 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tommy TenKreds on 10/04/2008 00:32:16
Originally by: Lady Valory
Back before they had RAM bpos...
I keyed all my alts to L4 production missions where the mission rewards were up to 100 RAM per mission...
Then I sold EVERYTHING down to the last raven...
Then I bought ALL the RAM EVERYWHERE I could... Pushing the price out to 350000 PU for RAM starship mods for example...
Then as the playerbase cried for the RAM bpos, I spammed L4 couriers missions for weeks and slowly sold off all the RAM stockpiles into the T2 bpo holders...
That was my first 10 billion...
Most of the other secrets I use havent been nerfed yet, so I cant share those.
nice. very nicely done.
And since we're being serious for a moment. When the tier 3 BS BPO's were seeded there was a disparity of about 300m ISK between the initial prices offered by NPC's in Lonetrek and The Forge.
The Forge is ofc where most people buy crap so it was easy to shift a couple of these at a time between neighbouring systems and make a fast buck. Well.. 6.5 billion on the first day.
Originally by: Jinx Barker
Originally by: Tommy TenKreds
..... without all the... um... dark hoods and crap.
Some of us like dark hoods, and don't forget the fuzzy handcuffs, and perhaps little pvc rubber... mmmmmm... delicious.
Bandures > Tommy, you like a cowboy harry ) |
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