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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.04.19 19:40:00 -
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Alright, a couple of quick points:
* My actions might reflect back on my Corporation, but they are not neccesarily the same actions and views that my Corp-mates share.
* I'm not going to tell you where I "hunt", it's bloody obvious anyway. 
With that out of the way, I'll get to the main point.
In "my" system, and the surrounding areas (Although I'll occasionaly stray out to the Amarr border territories), anyone with a negative rating towards the Blood Raiders is considered a target; whether that rating is -0.1 or -10.0, I'll still attack them.
If they're in a Frigate, I'll attack them myself, if they're in a Cruiser I'll call in some back-up, if they're in a Battleship....well, haven't been able to get enough people together yet. ;_;
I'll destroy the pod if I get a chance (It removes them from the system, makes them a little more cautious about a possible next time and has a pretty strong effect on my character's...um..."state), and extend this to any player.
Simply put; do you think any of this justifies the killing of newbies?
I don't use suicide tactics with my Kestrel (I'm skipping Cruise missiles entirely, anyway), and very rarely, if ever, smack-talk so I consider myself a fairly "decent" person otherwise.
Thoughts?
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:00:00 -
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I got a thought...........Why negative standing to Blood Raider?
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:01:00 -
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The moment you leave 0.5 or join a corp you are no longer a newbie...
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:04:00 -
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I got a thought...........Why negative standing to Blood Raider?
If they've ****ed off the Faction my Enclave belongs to, they've got no business in Blood Raider space. Simple.
Would you allow a known killer of your allies to walk freely in your territory?
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:06:00 -
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Ahhhhhhhh I see......... 
Well you do what you feel is necessary, can't see it lasting too long tbh
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Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:07:00 -
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I got a thought...........Why negative standing to Blood Raider?
If they've ****ed off the Faction my Enclave belongs to, they've got no business in Blood Raider space. Simple.
Would you allow a known killer of your allies to walk freely in your territory?
There are many other ways to get negative status with a faction other than to kill them. Example: You do some agent missions with a faction that they don't like (not neccesarily an enemy). Instant negative.
Second of all... message me in-game with what system you're in and I'm sure I'll have quite a fight for you
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:09:00 -
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I like to drink beer, Opinions?
Everyone thinks they're so tough when they can beat up on people in the querious region don't they. If you like to iniate pvp in the querious region you are uber.
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:10:00 -
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I got a thought...........Why negative standing to Blood Raider?
If they've ****ed off the Faction my Enclave belongs to, they've got no business in Blood Raider space. Simple.
Would you allow a known killer of your allies to walk freely in your territory?
There are many other ways to get negative status with a faction other than to kill them. Example: You do some agent missions with a faction that they don't like (not neccesarily an enemy). Instant negative.
Second of all... message me in-game with what system you're in and I'm sure I'll have quite a fight for you
I never said killing was the only way to annoy people.
Anyway, the system I'm in is a hardly a secret. I don't stray far from my Headquarters....although I run like fark if my sields go "pop!". 
Overall, I enjoy a good fight and the "job" of protecting an area of space (Even if the Faction system is a little faulty; "wanted" NPCs will always attack, even if you're their employers best friend. ), and if this means I have to gank the occasional newbie ship that wanders in for a look....well, so be it.
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:14:00 -
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oooooh, run like me eh
yap yap
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:16:00 -
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My opinion?
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:19:00 -
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My opinion?
You are starved for attention.
Ya, true.
Good thing I have people like you around to feed meh.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:26:00 -
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Lol Jessica I used to live in oyonata and I know ur corp as well kretin arnon and that firehaven person didnt know u were into shooting ppl tho. They seemed like nice guys. Obviously ur some sort of attention starved moron so next time im around ill pay you a visit tho I must say my standings with the blood raiders is +7.98.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:33:00 -
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Lol Jessica I used to live in oyonata and I know ur corp as well kretin arnon and that firehaven person didnt know u were into shooting ppl tho. They seemed like nice guys. Obviously ur some sort of attention starved moron so next time im around ill pay you a visit tho I must say my standings with the blood raiders is +7.98.
The fact you have a high standing with BR is probably the exact reason you weren't shot at by them.
o_O
Do you have any clue about Roleplay?
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Smacktastic
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Posted - 2004.04.19 20:34:00 -
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Killing is good, provided you're an equal oppertunity killer.
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Moderator @ www.killer-clowns.com
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.04.19 22:24:00 -
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Heh..
I dont get this..
The poster of this topic is obviously trying to 'role play' why he/she does what he/she does...
Why is everyone trolling about this?
Oh look someone who kills other people! OMG and NUBS two...lets get the trollparade out and go flaming!! comon guys...free cookies for everyone!
wtf??!
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.04.19 22:26:00 -
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Jessica I have a very good understanding of roleplay but I do not approve of imposing roleplay on people who are not interested. And what is the bit about shooting noobs? You are a noob yourself and your associates are not exactly the best combat pilots in eve either so please dont post your nonsensical threats on forums. If you wanna kill just kill no need for a detailed thread on how u are going to do it.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.04.19 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Darken Two on 19/04/2004 22:30:17
Ps. Eve is an MMOG not an MMORPG so ppl who are not interested are not required to go along with any role playing.
Ulendar are you drunk.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.04.19 22:44:00 -
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taken from the F.A.Q
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We at CCP have strived to create a rich and immersive universe centered on human interaction. Players can play the game as a simple space trading game or endeavor to control the largest, most powerful company in the universe. We provide the rules and tools, but it is the players themselves who create the adventures.
by playing you agree to the risk someones RPing requires you to die
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Do not let the world change you.
Change the world
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Zen Jakkaru
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Posted - 2004.04.19 23:01:00 -
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Ulendar, the fact that she's using OOC terms like 'newbies' and 'smack talk in local' should tell you different.
Har-de-fraggin'-har-har!
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.04.19 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zen Jakkaru
Ulendar, the fact that she's using OOC terms like 'newbies' and 'smack talk in local' should tell you different.
And the fact this is an OOC thread complete blows that moronic theory out of the water.
DarkenTwo:
What's your point? They go into 0.3 space *which is owned by a Pirate Corporation* and you expect no action to be taken? Would you still be complaining about my actions if I was part of an Alliance killing newbies in 0.0 space?
Likewise, my own and my Corporation members' PVP skill has no bearing on this, so quietly toddle off and find someone else to slander in that way.
Finally, in what way am I "noob"? Elaborate if you're going to sling around accusations like that.
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.04.19 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kynoch on 19/04/2004 23:22:48
How much m@sturb@tion is too much? Opinions?
You skipped cruise missles!? are you nuts!!
Protecting your area is just fine. I dont see a problem with that. You will however have to face a BS sooner or later...maybe sooner after this post...
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.04.19 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kynoch
Edited by: Kynoch on 19/04/2004 23:22:48
How much m@sturb@tion is too much? Opinions?
You skipped cruise missles!? are you nuts!!
Protecting your area is just fine. I dont see a problem with that. You will however have to face a BS sooner or later...maybe sooner after this post...
1.) When you go blind!....although I suppose that won't stop some people.
2.) Yup, for the time being anyway....I'm building up to use a Caracal (That won't be for about a month though, due to Caldari Frigate 5 taking 18 days to train.....yay a Miner history. ), and going to see how well I get on with Torpedoes.
3.) I *was* going to take part in an attack on an Aarmageddon the other day, but the damn server was going to go down in about ten minutes. 
I can see what you're saying though, and don't worry; I'll be prepared in either armanents or sheer cowardice. Either way, I feel a wee bit*****y. 
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.04.19 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zen Jakkaru
Ulendar, the fact that she's using OOC terms like 'newbies' and 'smack talk in local' should tell you different.
Well first off this is an OOC forums...
Second...she may not be a very good role player, but atleast she tries!
Its like saying...all PIE are griefers because they declarewars on minmatar corporation SOLLY because they are minmatar..
This person is shooting people with bad standings against her faction...its asmuch rp as any minamatr-amarr, caldari-gallente war there ever was...
Maybe having the word 'kill' and the word 'newbie' in the same phrase makes everyone a bit jumpy?
The threadposter did not say she SOLLY kills newbs, although maybe the exclamation was put on this (dunno why), it was simply stated that anyone with bad standing towards the blood raider faction gets terminated...regardless of who this is, but baring in mind that the threadposter is not suicidel...
On the topic of 'fighting with equal ods', dont even get me started. There are a number of people in this game who will fight with equal ods and who will fight with bad ods. Ironically its those exact people who mostly are the target of flames stating the oposite or who get called 'griefers' flat out. Not to mention the acusing is mostly done by exactly those who will never show up to a fair fight . So lets just leave that out of this...
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Berilac
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Posted - 2004.04.20 00:05:00 -
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if you have a good enough standing towards blood raders, do the blood rader ships in roid feilds still attack you?
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'Sweeden Steel Bite hard'
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.04.20 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Berilac
if you have a good enough standing towards blood raders, do the blood rader ships in roid feilds still attack you?
No, sadly. 
That's one of my chief complaints with the game: Faction ratings just don't have an effecy beyond agents.
That, and it annoys me when I see self-proclaimed Pirate Corporations with low standings towards NPC pirates yet high standings towards the non-pirate NPC corps.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.04.20 00:55:00 -
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Jessica sry if I somehow offended you. My point is that firstly terms like noobie do not belong to the realm of roleplay. Secondly I see no purpose why you declare all noobs KOS in "your territory" cos by ur roleplaying standards all players who have bad standings with BR should be KOS. The point of this thread still eludes me and no I see no reason why I should toddle off as per ur wishes. This whole post has been one long cry for attention from you and nothing more the sooner you admit it the sooner we can end this ridiculous thread.
Ps. Somebody shoot me in the head for posting again.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Jessica Logan
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Posted - 2004.04.20 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Jessica sry if I somehow offended you. My point is that firstly terms like noobie do not belong to the realm of roleplay. Secondly I see no purpose why you declare all noobs KOS in "your territory" cos by ur roleplaying standards all players who have bad standings with BR should be KOS. The point of this thread still eludes me and no I see no reason why I should toddle off as per ur wishes. This whole post has been one long cry for attention from you and nothing more the sooner you admit it the sooner we can end this ridiculous thread.
Ps. Somebody shoot me in the head for posting again.
1.) Erm, I don't use terms like "newbie" when Roleplaying. What the hell made you think that?
2.) As I explained; I don't discriminate between that Rookie ship and the huge lumbering Armageddon. The age of the player is irrelvant; my character treats all pilots, with negative Blood Raider standing, as a potential threat to the Covenant's resources (Which my Corp doesn't mine, I hasten to add) and ship movements.
3.) The point of this Thread was to get peoples' opinions on whether or not newbie killing can be justified. If you couldn't see that, why bother posting in the first place?
Calling me a "noob" and my Corpmates bad PvPers isn't something I tolerate, thank you very much.
Anyway, where the hell were you when 11101011 (Or whatever the hell his name is) posted his thread about killing the Velator pilot, mmm?
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.04.20 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jessica Logan
Originally by: Darken Two
Jessica sry if I somehow offended you. My point is that firstly terms like noobie do not belong to the realm of roleplay. Secondly I see no purpose why you declare all noobs KOS in "your territory" cos by ur roleplaying standards all players who have bad standings with BR should be KOS. The point of this thread still eludes me and no I see no reason why I should toddle off as per ur wishes. This whole post has been one long cry for attention from you and nothing more the sooner you admit it the sooner we can end this ridiculous thread.
Ps. Somebody shoot me in the head for posting again.
1.) Erm, I don't use terms like "newbie" when Roleplaying. What the hell made you think that?
2.) As I explained; I don't discriminate between that Rookie ship and the huge lumbering Armageddon. The age of the player is irrelvant; my character treats all pilots, with negative Blood Raider standing, as a potential threat to the Covenant's resources (Which my Corp doesn't mine, I hasten to add) and ship movements.
3.) The point of this Thread was to get peoples' opinions on whether or not newbie killing can be justified. If you couldn't see that, why bother posting in the first place?
Calling me a "noob" and my Corpmates bad PvPers isn't something I tolerate, thank you very much.
Anyway, where the hell were you when 11101011 (Or whatever the hell his name is) posted his thread about killing the Velator pilot, mmm?
Well said...
And i think for once the newbie right crusaders should back off and realize this isn't about ganking nubs but simply about not making any discriminations, wether they be positive or negative ;)
Asking for an opinion on the justification of killing a fresh newb in a rookie ship is a good enough reason to start a thread for me personally... Although personally i would not care to receive the approval of anyone for my actions.
In you case however, from my point of view, you're doing it from an RP perspective and according to your own saying, have the stamina to RP in depth enough not to mine the recourses you protect. So its all fair and square in my book...RP IS still a part of RPG and if someone with negative standing to the blood raiders enter i think its justyfied you kill them, regardless if they are nubs or not.
Its not because its unexpected that its griefing. And its not senceless ganking either...i dotn see a problem here personally.
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.04.20 03:53:00 -
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My bad I prolly misunderstood ur original post. If ur intention is to shoot anyone based on their standings with the BR then go ahead. If ur RPing fair nuff. Ulenmar or whatever ur name is what u talkin about dude?
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Je'nii Firehaven
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Posted - 2004.04.20 04:18:00 -
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Actually, just to add a bit of fuel to the fire Engraver Logan is a very strong Roleplayer in-game and I've very rarely seen her OOC. However this forum is an OOC forum and I'm sure if she did RP there would probably be about 50 people in here saying take it to the summit, Damned if you do, damned if you don'tFor those of you who did not get it from Jessica's post we RP a new Enclave of the Greater Blood Raider Covenant.
And now to Clarify a bit. While I myself do not fire on new players, I'd rather RP a bit with them and tell them to run along, I don't have much of a problem with Engraver Logan doing this for several reasons:
1. Engraver Logan is only flying a frigate and does not use cruise missles, so in my opinion even a newb has a chance to at least flee, if not actually fight back.
2. I feel their should be some back water spots in the Eve universe that are at least a little dangerous and from an IC perspective this should be one of them.
One final note, this corp has existed for about 3 months now in largely the same form and will hopefully continue on for as long as I play Eve. I feel this is a very entertaining premise and I've had a great deal of fun Rping and interacting with our members and allies, all of whom are quality people in my opinion.
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