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Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.10 14:58:00 - [1] Edited by: Athre on 10/04/2008 14:59:35 It is with great pleasure I am able to announce: FINAL RDIR STOCK REBUY is now to commence. I've spoken with Shar but not heard a word from Benvie regarding the shares. I have been directed to buy back shares at 350k isk per share, thats a 35% lifetime return on investment. Approximately 10 billion to be returned to investors. Please be assured I will make daily payments as stocks come in until such time as everyone has turned in their stocks. Return your stocks to me Athre.
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:36:00 - [2] Is this official? In that I mean if we don't take your buyback offer will we get another option of buyback when Shar gets back etc? I was under the impression that RDIR had earnt at least 80% over stock value over the period. This seems like a way for RDIR to get majority stocks back cheap and then pay official final dividend later. Either way it should definetly be addressed as it could be construed as misleading to have this buyback offer in place when profits far exceeded the amount being offered.
SiJira	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:44:00 - [3] the buyback is worth double this if not something fishy is going on Trashed sig, Shark was here
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:45:00 - [4] This is the buy back instructions I have received FROM SHAR, on his BEHALF. Send them to me and I will distribute the isk in the corp wallet.
Jon Sanng Minmatar Conducti	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:45:00 - [5] I'm sorry but this sounds like a bad joke. Can we have Shar come and post to confirm that you actually represent him?
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:49:00 - [6] Ungrateful jerks, here it is I'm trying to help get this done vs having you all wait around with no word for another 3 months... excuse me, go suck on an egg.
SiJira	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Athre Ungrateful jerks, here it is I'm trying to help get this done vs having you all wait around with no word for another 3 months... excuse me, go suck on an egg. are you trying to ruin your reputation? Trashed sig, Shark was here
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:54:00 - [8] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic Is this official? In that I mean if we don't take your buyback offer will we get another option of buyback when Shar gets back etc? I was under the impression that RDIR had earnt at least 80% over stock value over the period. This seems like a way for RDIR to get majority stocks back cheap and then pay official final dividend later. Either way it should definetly be addressed as it could be construed as misleading to have this buyback offer in place when profits far exceeded the amount being offered. 10 billion is being disbursed have a nice day.
Jon Sanng Minmatar Conducti	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Athre Ungrateful jerks, here it is I'm trying to help get this done vs having you all wait around with no word for another 3 months... excuse me, go suck on an egg. So kind of you to offer to buy back shares at less than half the value Shar has previously stated for them. What a selfless individual you must be.
Kwint Sommer Lothian Quay Industries	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:55:00 - [10] Originally by: Athre Ungrateful jerks, here it is I'm trying to help get this done vs having you all wait around with no word for another 3 months... excuse me, go suck on an egg. I think Shar needs a new public relations guy.... Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:55:00 - [11] Originally by: SiJira Originally by: Athre Ungrateful jerks, here it is I'm trying to help get this done vs having you all wait around with no word for another 3 months... excuse me, go suck on an egg. are you trying to ruin your reputation? I am very mad that some people whom have been waiting and waiting on information and when I finally am given instructions I'm beat with a 2x4 with 10 inch spikes
SiJira	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:56:00 - [12] Edited by: SiJira on 10/04/2008 15:56:13 Originally by: Athre I am very mad that some people whom have been waiting and waiting on information and when I finally am given instructions I'm beat with a 2x4 with 10 inch spikes no one is attacking you but anyone that still has these knows they are worth quite a bit more you should still apologize for your outburst Trashed sig, Shark was here
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:56:00 - [13] Originally by: Kwint Sommer Originally by: Athre Ungrateful jerks, here it is I'm trying to help get this done vs having you all wait around with no word for another 3 months... excuse me, go suck on an egg. I think Shar needs a new public relations guy.... Rule 1 of customer service I will help you to the best of my ability and you will get the same type of respect you give me. Give me a chance to help you and I will do it pleasently and happily, spit in my face and expect me to yell slurs in your direction.
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.10 15:57:00 - [14] Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 10/04/2008 15:56:13 Originally by: Athre I am very mad that some people whom have been waiting and waiting on information and when I finally am given instructions I'm beat with a 2x4 with 10 inch spikes no one is attacking you but anyone that still has these knows they are worth quite a bit more you should still apologize for your outburst I am feeling quite attacked. I receive this information directly from Shar. I have no stocks, I have nothing to gain but apparently I'm a liar. I take this as a very very high personal offense.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.04.10 16:11:00 - [15] I thought the plan was to distribute profits as dividend payments. ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.04.10 16:11:00 - [16] Edited by: Shadarle on 10/04/2008 16:14:20 Originally by: Athre Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 10/04/2008 15:56:13 Originally by: Athre I am very mad that some people whom have been waiting and waiting on information and when I finally am given instructions I'm beat with a 2x4 with 10 inch spikes no one is attacking you but anyone that still has these knows they are worth quite a bit more you should still apologize for your outburst I am feeling quite attacked. I receive this information directly from Shar. I have no stocks, I have nothing to gain but apparently I'm a liar. I take this as a very very high personal offense. I for one don't care if you take offense. RDIR should have made, at a minimum, 80% profits. It could have been closer to 100% or more. That is the last bit of info we had. If this has changed we need to see an entire report and explanation of why. Short of that I don't believe anything you've said in this thread. Shar is too smart to tell someone to do what you're trying to do without giving you spreadsheets and documentation to back up your claims. Thus the only conclusion I can draw is that you are trying to scam people here and you're trying to use Shar's name to do so. If that offends you then too bad, it offends me that you're trying to screw around with Shar's reputation and good name. And as to having nothing to gain, you obviously would have a lot to gain. You'd be making 2-3 times your money on every single share you bought back at such a tiny amount. You may have had a better chance with this effort of yours if you had played it more in the line of "I know this is less than optimal, but the money has been lost, all that remains is approx 35% profits which I will be reimbursing", instead you tried to make it sound like it was GREAT that you'd pay out a whole 35% when we all know that isn't even remotely great.
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.04.10 16:30:00 - [17] I don't believe for a second that Athre is scamming. I know from Shar that he considers Athre highly trustworthy. I believe Athre when she says this has come directly from Shar. Unfortunately Athre, Shar has sent you to deliver a message that was always going to result in a death sentence. Our blame should not be with Athre, but with Shar. Athre is the messenger. I think Shar definetly needs to get in here and sort this mess out asap.
Kwint Sommer Lothian Quay Industries	Posted - 2008.04.10 16:36:00 - [18] Before you speak, Athre, know that in MD, everyone, even a kingÆs messenger, are held accountable for the words of his voice. Now, what message do you bring? Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals
Taryn Ceridwen Un4seen Development	Posted - 2008.04.10 16:53:00 - [19] Considering all the work Benvie put into this operation should he not have some input into this new development? Do we know whether he is still active? I'm sorry you feel attacked Athre, but surely you must appreciate how this looks to everyone connected with this forum and/or RDIR. I would apprciate seeing a full report before I return any shares as it was my understanding that profits were a lot higher than 35% and you have yourself, told us in other threads that sales are still being made regularly. I appreciate that Shar is still far from well and not so active at the moment, but it would be reassuring at least to have him confirm that you are acting on his behalf in this matter.
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.10 17:20:00 - [20] Isuspect what's happening here is that all the stock Shar has left has been sold - and the stock Benvie had is being counted as Benvie's salary - despite being way over what he was entitled to (assuming that the spreadsheets we were previously sent were correct). I'd suggest the 10 bill is dividended out and we wait for Benvie to show back up before closing it down. I've seen the same detailed spreadsheet as Shadarle - and the final profit was looking to be in the 75-100% range. Obviously some portion of that would go to Benvie (20% of all profits over 5% per month RDIR ran for from memory). At absolute worst the final payout to shareholders would be around 50-60% based on what I saw. So I repeat: just dividend out the 10 billion. If it turns out that IS the final payment then no harm's done - it's not like the RDIR name has any value any more. If, on the other hand, Benvie shows back up and we're entitled to more ISK then we haven't lost all record of who is entitled to what.
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.04.10 17:21:00 - [21] Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 10/04/2008 17:22:15 I'm curious - is there a reason that you couldn't have paid this out as a dividend and then asked people for the stocks back afterward, stating that no more dividends would be paid? Is RDIR set up in such a way that it would be highly inconvenient (if not impossible) for you to move operations to a different corp? Note to any CCP types who may be reading this: we need share trading contracts, and we need them yesterday! My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.04.10 17:48:00 - [22] Athre isn't CEO, Benvie is. Only CEO can action dividends. After speaking with Athre apparently Shar's illness has progressed considerably. From what I have been advised up to this morning "deathly ill with cancer and diabities". Now, Athre (and I) have access to a Sexy wallet link that shows the entire RDIR operational data, however due to it listing corporate transactions it means the other wallets are viewable. One of those other corporate wallets is used for EBANK withdrawals, so it's not possible to simply list the link so people can see for themselves. I want to get Athre in contact with Ray to see if there's a way he can produce another version of his app to remove the other corp wallets in question (only show the one used for RDIR). I am about to leave on holidays so if anyone gets in contact with Ray please direct him to this post. At this point it looks like Athre's offer is legit. There are no other funds to take. How this happened, why we were told a far larger sum prior, etc are all unanswered and only able to be determined by the sexy data or Benvie/Shar. I suggest we accept this buyback as it's not likely another one of larger substance will ever be forthcoming. I know how much trust Shar has in Athre and don't deny for a second that this is a legitimate buyback and the data advised to me by Athre is true to the best of her knowledge.
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.10 17:57:00 - [23] Originally by: EBANK Ricdic Athre isn't CEO, Benvie is. Only CEO can action dividends. After speaking with Athre apparently Shar's illness has progressed considerably. From what I have been advised up to this morning "deathly ill with cancer and diabities". Now, Athre (and I) have access to a Sexy wallet link that shows the entire RDIR operational data, however due to it listing corporate transactions it means the other wallets are viewable. One of those other corporate wallets is used for EBANK withdrawals, so it's not possible to simply list the link so people can see for themselves. I want to get Athre in contact with Ray to see if there's a way he can produce another version of his app to remove the other corp wallets in question (only show the one used for RDIR). I am about to leave on holidays so if anyone gets in contact with Ray please direct him to this post. At this point it looks like Athre's offer is legit. There are no other funds to take. How this happened, why we were told a far larger sum prior, etc are all unanswered and only able to be determined by the sexy data or Benvie/Shar. I suggest we accept this buyback as it's not likely another one of larger substance will ever be forthcoming. I know how much trust Shar has in Athre and don't deny for a second that this is a legitimate buyback and the data advised to me by Athre is true to the best of her knowledge. Can you confirm that the buy-back doesn't include anything for the chunk of stock given to Benvie? I'd guess, as said earlier, that's where the missing ISK is. I suppose taking the buy-back may be the only option: if so, I'd ask that a proper record be kept of all bought-backshares so if Benvie shows back up and isn't scamming then we have a mechanism by which the remaining profits can be properly distributed. I'm not too optimistic about Benvie showing back up, given he vanished pretty much as soon as he got the RDIR stock.
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:00:00 - [24] I honestly don't have a clue what Benvie took etc. I barely even looked at that wallet (only really had access to audit EBANK stuff going on in there). And I am leaving on a 5 day holiday (in about 12 minutes) so definetly don't have time to figure it out.
Riethe Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:07:00 - [25] Originally by: da book of rulez Rule 1 of customer service I will help you to the best of my ability and you will get the same type of respect you give me. Give me a chance to help you and I will do it pleasently and happily, spit in my face and expect me to yell slurs in your direction. Maybe in bizzaro world. How old are you exactly? What a loving joke. How does a person so unsuited get put into such an important role?
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Kwint Sommer Before you speak, Athre, know that in MD, everyone, even a kingÆs messenger, are held accountable for the words of his voice. Now, what message do you bring? The numbers as they were given to me are thus: 30,000 shares 350,000 pay out per share ________ 10.5 billion pay out Wallet as this morning 6.8 bil Shar is listing a single lot Benvie never picked up to list and the nano's and shield emitters are still selling. Once everything is sold the full amount will be available. I will buy back as many shares as I can with what is available to me and then will continue as the items sell. Of all the shares, Shar gets paid last. I would show you a screen shot of sexy wallet but I believe the accusations of liar would continue none the less. Its unfortunate that my joy ,believing I could make a difference, by helping my friend and the people he is obligated to was so short lived.
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:42:00 - [27] Originally by: Riethe Originally by: da book of rulez Rule 1 of customer service I will help you to the best of my ability and you will get the same type of respect you give me. Give me a chance to help you and I will do it pleasently and happily, spit in my face and expect me to yell slurs in your direction. Maybe in bizzaro world. How old are you exactly? What a loving joke. How does a person so unsuited get put into such an important role? In my hurt I expanded on the "I'll be as nice to you as you are to me and transversely as rude to you as you are to me" If you frequent the Ebank forum you'll be aware of my age and gender. Please understand that just because I am thin skinned does not mitigate my sincerity in wanting to help. After speaking with Ricdic I understand the investors were/are angry with Benvie and Shar, not me.
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.04.10 20:53:00 - [28] Originally by: Kwint Sommer Before you speak, Athre, know that in MD, everyone, even a kingÆs messenger, are held accountable for the words of his voice. Now, what message do you bring? Haha, damnit, you beat me to it. I was going to post the same thing. :\
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.04.10 20:57:00 - [29] Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 10/04/2008 20:58:41 Originally by: Athre After speaking with Ricdic I understand the investors were/are angry with Benvie and Shar, not me. I doubt many are actually angry. New Eden is a universe where you trust nobody and have nobody to blame but yourself if your better nature gets you hurt. What you are seeing here is more distrust than anger. Edit: Also I was hoping to have some worthless RDIR shares left at the end of this to pin on a wall when Ambulation hit. ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.04.10 22:04:00 - [30] Athre is, and has been, one of the most trusted people in my Eve life. There are about 5 others to this list. Make that 1 trusted person for each year I've been playing Eve.. I'm blessed. To clarify, Athre is a director in my corp. I utilize the corporate wallet divisions to segregate various activities. This includes RDIR funds and Eve Bank teller funds. Now, personal matters aside, RDIR needs to be closed. I'm in the position to use some of my own funds to close it down. I do not have access to RDIR CEO or Directorship so I can not produce a list of share holders. However there is still the original shareholder list of which I'm sure has not changed too much. And with some circumstances in my own life pressing upon me I felt it best to settle various affairs as well as can be. As to the offer... it truly is from sales and some of my own money that I can shake free, not having logged into eve for well over a month, to help settle affairs. And, yes, I understand it is disappointing. I share in that feeling but you'll have to excuse the fact that under the circumstances it is not a high priority feeling. My job wasn't to make RDIR profitable. It was to be 3rd person security for the investors. I made the reports that I did because I was in the position to make those reports. Such is not quite the case at this time nor am I in a position to be very confidant how matters will stand at the end of all this. So this offer is simply an attempt at doing this decently after so much else has gone wrong. In the end, Athre is riding a white horse, wearing a white hate, coming to salvage the mess and save your relative asses. She's an MD newbie but she's not asking none of yall for a damned thing. Each of us invested in a speculation IPO that got derailed. ***** and moan about that, I deserve it. But in the end you all got what you put in back in your wallets and 350K per share on top of that as well. If you don't like it, as Athre would say it and I concur, "Go suck an egg." PS: I would've posted sooner but the discussion of this with Athre and others drained me and I had to go get some sleep. Athrea truly is a newb to the MD so doesn't realize that to be proper and polite here requires a person to mentally tell you all "go to hell" as one post replies. It's counterintuitive, I know, but she's a fast learner. To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2008.04.10 22:54:00 - [31] I will vouch for Athre personally. Director \| www.eve-bank.net
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.10 22:58:00 - [32] I don't have any doubts over the honesty of Athre or Shar. But the big question (to me) is still being totally ignored: Does this settlement include or not income from the chunk of stock which was given to Benvie? If so, we sneed to keep a record of shareholders so that, if Benvie ever shows up and isn't trying to scam, the rest of profits can be shared out properly. If, of course, this payment includes the sale of ALL remaining assets then there's no need to bother.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.04.10 23:22:00 - [33] Originally by: FastLearner If so, we sneed to keep a record of shareholders so that, if Benvie ever shows up and isn't trying to scam, the rest of profits can be shared out properly. If, of course, this payment includes the sale of ALL remaining assets then there's no need to bother. Firstly, a record of each stock transfer is going to be maintained, in two distinct places as a matter of fact. Those who have access to my running version of Sexy can attest to the level of accuracy in my remarking for any corporate transactions. (This includes an eBank teller actions) Accurate remarks is an absolute requirement - internally. Secondly, there is still some inventory remaining that I did not contract over to Benvie last I was in game. Those items were up on the market in various locales and regions making it difficult to take them down, gather them together, and hand over to Benvie. Those items were, mostly, overpriced and on 90 d orders. The current RDIR wallet division is populated with funds from those lingering sales. And yes, this is intended as a final closing. There's been no special deals or accommodations arranged of any kind. Benvie's "cut" has not even been brought into play in this matter. There has been no contact with Benvie after the evemail I received telling me which character to contract inventory over to at that time. (My toon babysitter has specific instructions to not only check training and status but who has sent evemails. Call me paranoid but I've had friends who've come back from some sort of vacation to find that their accounts have been hacked and toons deleted after being emptied of assets.) Athre's tried doing a good job of updating people while I've been away but she, and I, were both very adamant. We can't account for everything anymore but we don't like this affair lingering on. This is essentially a fair offer buy out to bring this to a close and perhaps salvage some of my dignity in the process. Nothing more, nothing less.
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.11 04:49:00 - [34] Martosh Toma & Maria Sklodowska isk sent. Please remember to send an eve mail with the shares folks :)
Potsnack	Posted - 2008.04.11 07:40:00 - [35] Shar, I take my hat off to you I really do. Despite extremely difficult real-life circumstances you have done your very best to maintain your integrity regarding in-game committments, and in my opinion you have done yourself proud. Your character shines out far brighter than most in Eve. I'm not playing Eve at the moment, but I will try to log in as soon as possible to return the shares. I'm going to leave it at that, but I thank you for everything you have done regarding this venture, and wish you all the very best for a full and speedy recovery. Regards Pot
Taryn Ceridwen Un4seen Development	Posted - 2008.04.11 07:51:00 - [36] I would like to echo what Potsnack has just said. Shar, thank you for clarifying the situation in what must be difficult circumstances. I appreciate the effort it has taken for you to attend to something that is, quite rightly, way down the list of your priorities at this time. I too wish you all the very best with your treatment and recovery and hope to hear your voice in this forum again before too long. It has not been the same without you. God speed
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.11 16:24:00 - [37] Shannar'a & Jon Sanng isk sent.
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.12 16:17:00 - [38] Isk has been sent to : Akilah Mathew Munro Omber Zombie Potsnack Kaisho Stormrider
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.04.12 21:46:00 - [39] 250 shares returned. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.04.12 22:20:00 - [40] Originally by: Shar Tegral And yes, this is intended as a final closing. Excuse me, what ? You mean there will be no more dividends, ever ? Why not just pay out the money as dividends and let the shares be wherever they are now? As for the value of the buyback... it's pretty damned low... even after "Benvie's cut" and whoever else's cut, I WAS expecting more than merely 35% profit spread over 5 months, especially since the NAV barely 2 months in was almost 200%... and now the buyback's way lower ? 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.12 22:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 12/04/2008 22:46:15 Just want to know who to blame for the bussiness "not performing as expected", meaning, somebody else except Shar, since, well, real-life circumstances and all that kinda' make it a bit hard to hold any grudges. Benvie
FastLearner Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.12 23:30:00 - [42] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 12/04/2008 22:46:15 Originally by: Shar Tegral And yes, this is intended as a final closing. Excuse me, what ? You mean there will be no more dividends, ever ? I'm a bit confused on the whole "who has what access, dividends vs ISK vs goods" thingy. Why not just pay out the money as dividends and let the shares be wherever they are now ? Something happened to whoever was controlling the dividend payments ? Yeah I'm a bit out of the loop... As for the value of the buyback... it's pretty damned low... even after "Benvie's cut" and whoever else's cut, I WAS expecting more than merely 35% profit spread over 5 months, especially since the NAV barely 2 months in was almost 200%... and now the buyback's way lower ? Oh well... I guess 35% profit is better than 0% profit, and even 0% profit is much better than 100% loss, so... eh... that's life. Just want to know who to blame for the bussiness "not performing as expected", meaning, somebody else except Shar, since, well, real-life circumstances and all that kinda' make it a bit hard to hold any grudges. ____ P.S. Athre, 500 RDIR shares sent. As far as I can work out, what's happening is that the stock given to Benvie to sell off is being written off - so the 35% dividend just represents the value of the remaining stock Shar had. Hence my repeated request that shares returned be kept track of - so that if Benvie ever shows hisface again he has the option of paying out whatever portion of the ISK he's raised should be distributed.
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.12 23:35:00 - [43] Originally by: FastLearner As far as I can work out, what's happening is that the stock given to Benvie to sell off is being written off - so the 35% dividend just represents the value of the remaining stock Shar had. Hence my repeated request that shares returned be kept track of - so that if Benvie ever shows hisface again he has the option of paying out whatever portion of the ISK he's raised should be distributed. Indeed - all buy backs are listing the quantity of stock and the journal records the name. I'm keeping a separate log (desk notepad) with the list that I will put into an excel sheet on my corp's web site so that if CCP ever wipes the journals (my stuff from 2003 and 2004 are naturally missing) we will have record in perpetuity.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.04.13 03:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Akita T Just want to know who to blame for the bussiness "not performing as expected", meaning, somebody else except Shar, since, well, real-life circumstances and all that kinda' make it a bit hard to hold any grudges. Originally by: Athre ~~Benvie~~ Shar Tegral is almost totally to blame. Enough so that I blame him and only him. Let there be no doubt I hope that my real life circumstance clears up any grudges. But to push fault onto anyone else, at all, would be just wrong. (I don't know what has happened with or to Benvie but this disaster is not of his making... at all.) I'm not falling on my sword for the benefit of others here. It's the honest truth. To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Ayami Sakura Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.04.13 14:40:00 - [45] Why am I not surprised? Oh well, 400 shares sent with related eve-mail as per your request.
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.13 16:10:00 - [46] Isk sent to: Tarash Awin Dohkar Akita T Taryn Ceridwen Ayami Sakura Kazuo Ishiguro Deison Mr Minmatar
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.14 21:21:00 - [47] Isk sent to: Treelox Adonis 4174 Minerva Vulcan
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.04.15 06:28:00 - [48] Originally by: Athre Isk sent to: Treelox confirmed.... quick and prompt service ty --
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation	Posted - 2008.04.15 10:51:00 - [49] Originally by: Treelox confirmed.... quick and prompt service ty Yup. Got mine within minutes.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.04.15 15:50:00 - [50] Originally by: Minerva Vulcan Originally by: Treelox confirmed.... quick and prompt service ty Yup. Got mine within minutes. EveMon says my wallet is up by about the right amount, I will conclude that I have mine also. ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:44:00 - [51] Latest payouts: FastLearner Countess Xiao
Shadarle	Posted - 2008.04.16 04:48:00 - [52] I have been having a heck of a time logging into these forums lately, it never lets me remain logged in. As a note, Benvie's IPO just paid divs for the month... so clearly he isn't totally gone. Anyone seen him in game? I just find it very odd to send shares at any random time considering the lack of share tracking available in game. Though I suppose with a list of all shareholders it is not tough. Just to be sure, at any point, whether Athre is in game or not, we just send our shares and when Athre logs in we get our money? What about the ISK available to buy back the shares being lower than the total amount needed due to remaining stock? FastLearner and myself were the two largest shareholders, I saw he cashed in, is there still the liquid ISK for me to cash mine in now? And assuming Benvie does make a re-appearance, how will that be handled? Will all shares be re-issued to make dividending easier or is there not really a plan for that yet?
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.16 06:50:00 - [53] I'm keeping tally on the stocks I'm buying back on Shar's behalf, all stocks sent to me and processed are then sent to a single alt of Shar's so if dividends came in on that it can go back in the pool. There are items that are still continuing to sell. I do cash folks out when I am next in game and some by personal convo, which ever you prefer.
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.16 07:11:00 - [54] Originally by: Shadarle As a note, Benvie's IPO just paid divs for the month... so clearly he isn't totally gone. Anyone seen him in game? I'm sorry I might not be understanding you correctly... I've double checked my corps wallet and no dividends were sent on RDIR to Shar's shares held in the corp wallet. Is this a different financial en devour?
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.04.16 07:20:00 - [55] Originally by: Athre I'm sorry I might not be understanding you correctly... I've double checked my corps wallet and no dividends were sent on RDIR to Shar's shares held in the corp wallet. Is this a different financial en devour? Nah Benvie corp is his own enterprise. I think Shadarle's point was that Benvie hasn't dropped off the face of the earth. He is still around however seems to be just doing his thing in game. Kinda like he has wiped his hands with RDIR.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.04.16 10:51:00 - [56] Originally by: Shadarle Just to be sure, at any point, whether Athre is in game or not, we just send our shares and when Athre logs in we get our money? Athre has done an excellent job of accounting for all shares properly. And the accounting so far matches what list I have. However, the caveat, I do not have a shareholders list that is current. The alt that I used to issue dividends via in game mechanics no longer has access to any corporate functions. In fact, I did not have this access 5 minutes after the dispersal was completed. From what I can see, using sexy to monitor affairs, there should still be liquid funds available for your needs. It's a bit tight at the moment, a sudden bill or isk need is going to be a pain, but my own in game activities are minimal right now. The corp is competent enough to finance any matters, even if the wallet is devastated, on their own. In other words, there's no worries on all accounts. I have no idea nor comment on any activity that Benvie is engaged in or not engaged in. I've had no contact from him and I've not seen him so I presume that he's not been in game or around. If this is not the case, that he's ignoring me/washed his hands, I can only respect that choice. However I'm not going to respond to any questions about the matter. IMHO I've done enough potential damage to the man, undeservedly so, and I will simply choose to keep my big yap shut. To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Dimebag Abbott	Posted - 2008.04.16 11:18:00 - [57] I do not feel like I need to post with my main since he has nothing to do with RDIR and I need no recognition for well wishing. Letting it be known that the thoughts of others are with you Shar and we all hope a for a speedy recovery. O7
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.16 14:29:00 - [58] Isk sent to : Soren Jocca Quinn
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.17 16:12:00 - [59] Latest payouts: Dealema Shadarle SiJira
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.20 21:01:00 - [60] Latest pay outs: Awta Awta King Boris Total Shares paid out: 21,861 Total Shares originally: 30,000 Shares left outstanding: 8,139 (this includes Shar's outstanding shares) The Longterm liquidation continues. Please continue to evemail with share turn ins for clear documentation. Keeping with transparency - I received a 90 day GTC in payment for my clerical duties pertaining to this IPO. If you have any questions please dont hesitate to ask.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.04.21 02:23:00 - [61] Reporting: 1k Shares - Adrimar To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Sir Artus Minmatar Ichthus Industries	Posted - 2008.04.21 10:19:00 - [62] Hi sent the 250 shares I had to Athre awaiting payment at this time
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.04.21 10:23:00 - [63] Originally by: Sir Artus Hi sent the 250 shares I had to Athre awaiting payment at this time I have no doubt that when she awakes and finds time to log in she will handle your transaction promptly. I hope that this is satisfactory as I can not confirm any shares that may have arrived to her. I can only confirm shares that she, or I, have registered as they are getting dumped onto an alt... who will likely be deleted once all shares are accounted for. (This is the only way to take shares out of "game" to properly reflect the status of the shares - in case anyone asked.) To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.21 16:08:00 - [64] Originally by: Sir Artus Hi sent the 250 shares I had to Athre awaiting payment at this time Isk sent.
Dr Freedom	Posted - 2008.04.21 17:12:00 - [65] Edited by: Dr Freedom on 21/04/2008 17:12:52 ..
Sir Artus Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.21 17:13:00 - [66] Originally by: Athre Originally by: Sir Artus Hi sent the 250 shares I had to Athre awaiting payment at this time Isk sent. isk received
Anastasia Heron Amarr Interstellar Planetary KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.22 03:42:00 - [67] 40 shares sent!
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.23 21:58:00 - [68] My apologies for the delay in reporting Anastasia Heron has been paid and confirmed in the Ebank channel in game.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.06.01 22:41:00 - [69] Bump, there are still 1,890 shares still floating around. To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Treelox Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.06.01 23:24:00 - [70] Originally by: Shar Tegral Bump, there are still 1,890 shares still floating around. Id be more than willing to hold the isk for those people --
Shakka Zulu	Posted - 2008.06.02 00:14:00 - [71] Originally by: Athre Originally by: Kwint Sommer Originally by: Athre Ungrateful jerks, here it is I'm trying to help get this done vs having you all wait around with no word for another 3 months... excuse me, go suck on an egg. I think Shar needs a new public relations guy.... Rule 1 of customer service I will help you to the best of my ability and you will get the same type of respect you give me. Give me a chance to help you and I will do it pleasently and happily, spit in my face and expect me to yell slurs in your direction. What business school did you learn THAT at?
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.06.02 00:38:00 - [72] Originally by: Shakka Zulu What business school did you learn THAT at? The Eve School of Business. Particularly when we have the show & troll sessions... oh wait, you just did one. Silly me I almost missed it. To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Athre The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.06.05 00:43:00 - [73] finders fee paid to McRudder 250 shares.

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