Originally by: Miss Peaches

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I think its about time a new set of learning skills come out. Same as what exists now, another 5 skills that give +1 to your attributes. But the mother of all learning skills can be called "Genius" allows you to learn all skills 5% faster.

A new set of implants should be released, like a crystal set, only for learning. The cheap set, and an expensive set, give another 20% or so learning speed. Talk about party time.

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Originally by: Erotic Irony

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And attributes are capped at 30 aren't they?

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Originally by: Erotic Irony

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Edited by: Erotic Irony on 11/04/2008 17:30:13

Originally by: Miss Peaches

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I think its about time a new set of learning skills come out. Same as what exists now, another 5 skills that give +1 to your attributes. But the mother of all learning skills can be called "Genius" allows you to learn all skills 5% faster.

A new set of implants should be released, like a crystal set, only for learning. The cheap set, and an expensive set, give another 20% or so learning speed. Talk about party time.

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Would widen the new player gap to embarrassing levels, never going to happen.

And attributes are capped at 30 aren't they? With +4/5 implants you're already very close to that.

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Originally by: Zaknussem

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I get the feeling you haven't thought this through.

CCP wants us to take our time learning skills. They've (allegedely) expressed regret over giving use the "Advanced" learning skills, which if true can give you an idea of how interested they are in adding more learning skills.

The implant set isn't such a bad idea, IMO.

Furthermore, who would benefit the most from these skills and implants, which will in all likelyhood cost an arm and two legs? Do you think it will be the new players, whom will need it the most in order to "get into the game" faster and to catch up to the veterans? Or do you think it will be the veterans, whom can easily afford whatever price you name and then rocket ahead in skills?

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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but it would be fun lol

also they would cost alot.

Genius would be about 100 mil in cost.
The advanced learning skills would be about 20 mil isk each

And the implants, well, think in terms of the price cost of a full set of snakes. Same idea.

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Originally by: Erotic Irony

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never going to happen

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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Edited by: Miss Peaches on 11/04/2008 17:43:40
So what though?

There is always going to be a gap between a 20 mil sp player and a 1 mil sp player. Or a 50 mil sp player and a 1 mil sp player. By the time the 1 mil sp player trains up the learning skills, and can afford to, the 20 mil sp player is already at 30 mil sp, and the 1 mil sp is at 6. Already a gap there? Like wise a 50 mil sp player with alot of cash has a +5 set and full learning skills- so hes at 60 mil sp and the 1 mil sp player is at 5?

The gap is going to be there regardless. Thas like saying- well a t1 fit cruiser is no match for a Faction fit HAC the gap is too great.

What about the gap between players with implants vs players without implants? One could argue that someone with a full set of snakes, or crystals has too much of an edge over a character without them. What about those types of gaps?

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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Edited by: Miss Peaches on 11/04/2008 17:48:33
Ok, forget the books then.

What about a set like Crystals, or snakes that aid in learning? Why is that Taboo? 1 billion for a full set, or 1/2 that for the lesser set? Why not?

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Originally by: Erotic Irony

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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Edited by: Miss Peaches on 11/04/2008 17:48:33
Ok, forget the books then.

What about a set like Crystals, or snakes that aid in learning? Why is that Taboo? 1 billion for a full set, or 1/2 that for the lesser set? Why not?

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jump clones > your terrible ideas

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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Ok, forget the books then.

What about a set like Crystals, or snakes that aid in learning?

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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Originally by: Erotic Irony

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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Edited by: Miss Peaches on 11/04/2008 17:48:33
Ok, forget the books then.

What about a set like Crystals, or snakes that aid in learning? Why is that Taboo? 1 billion for a full set, or 1/2 that for the lesser set? Why not?

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jump clones > your terrible ideas

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What do Jump clones have anything to do with a set of implants you noob?

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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I think its about time a new set of learning skills come out. Same as what exists now, another 5 skills that give +1 to your attributes. But the mother of all learning skills can be called "Genius" allows you to learn all skills 5% faster.

A new set of implants should be released, like a crystal set, only for learning. The cheap set, and an expensive set, give another 20% or so learning speed. Talk about party time.

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Originally by: Tarminic

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Including another set of implants or skills will have one of the following effects:
1. If it's cheap enough it will also become mandatory, adding additional months of skill training time
2. If it's too expensive it will only widen the gap between wealthy veterans and everyone else

CCP regrets adding the learning skills as it is for reason #1. Anything else that boosts learning would only make things worse.

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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I think its about time a new set of learning skills come out. Same as what exists now, another 5 skills that give +1 to your attributes. But the mother of all learning skills can be called "Genius" allows you to learn all skills 5% faster.

A new set of implants should be released, like a crystal set, only for learning. The cheap set, and an expensive set, give another 20% or so learning speed. Talk about party time.

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Originally by: Dianabolic

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Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL

Originally by: Dirk Magnum

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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 11/04/2008 18:08:01

I've killed multiple players who have been in-game longer than me. The ship I was flying and the skills I put towards it countered whatever ship they were flying and the skills they put towards that. The notion that less experienced players can literally never compete is bogus.
That's not directly learning skill related, but the idea of ability to compete keeps getting brought up, particularly in the post above this one.

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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I think its about time a new set of learning skills come out. Same as what exists now, another 5 skills that give +1 to your attributes. But the mother of all learning skills can be called "Genius" allows you to learn all skills 5% faster.

A new set of implants should be released, like a crystal set, only for learning. The cheap set, and an expensive set, give another 20% or so learning speed. Talk about party time.

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Originally by: Major Stallion

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Originally by: Miss Peaches

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I think its about time a new set of learning skills come out. Same as what exists now, another 5 skills that give +1 to your attributes. But the mother of all learning skills can be called "Genius" allows you to learn all skills 5% faster.

A new set of implants should be released, like a crystal set, only for learning. The cheap set, and an expensive set, give another 20% or so learning speed. Talk about party time.

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apparently you havent read any of the dev popstings on this issue. They all garee learning skills are the bane of this game, they wont add more of what they hate. Stop proposing ideas like this.

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Originally by: Tarminic

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And we have a right to shoot them down.

Yes, newer players will always be at a competitive disadvantage in terms of SP and usually ISK. However, I think that at the moment the advantage between new and older players is fairly well-balanced. Your proposal would throw it completely out of whack.

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