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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:36:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:
Oh dear, seems you have a rather basic understanding of life in general. You don't have to own something to have an understanding of it. I live with several people who own consoles, and I've yet to see them play ANY game be it online or not for ANY great length of time. In no small part to the fact that console games aren't meant to last. If games took months to complete rather then days, then people wouldn't be buying as many games as they should be.
Since you can't even grasp a concept as basic as observation and in fact have shown you base your opinion entirely on meaningless assumption, you should stop trying to be clever as it clearly doesn't suit you.
I play BF3 regularly, Multiplayer only. Been playing a lot longer than 3 weeks....being as you can't beat online multiplayer....you know because it never ends and all, which is why people play FPS in the 1st place, the online MP experience 
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3301
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:36:00 -
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Why would pc players insta win?
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1069
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:39:00 -
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Quote:Yet here we are on your third reply, and it still lacks any kind of substance. Like for instance, what is so great about DUST? You and your fellow fanboys have already heralded DUST an amazing Success before it's even come out, yet you haven't explained at all how DUST will succeed. Nor have you explained how the two games will have ANY kind of meaningful interaction, while allowing for the fact that CCP themselves have said that should DUST fail it will have NO impact on EvE.
So, tell me. What has your mountains research come up with in regards to this. Because you've failed to mention it so far.
I can understand your blind faith though, considering DUST was born in a time when CCP was getting everything so right!
What substance have YOU supplied so far? 
No one has declared DUST to be an amazing success, it's not out yet, so you might want to stop putting words in peoples mouths. Granted, that will severely limit your material...
What HAS been said is that DUST is looking very, very good so far. This has been substantiated by every gaming site that has had a chance to see the internal build in action so far.
As far as meaningful interaction between EVE and DUST:
The two will share a common economy and market system. This produces a large potential revenue stream for EVE players, but if DUST fails it simply means that those revenue streams revert to what we have now.
DUST will have a direct impact on our SOV system IF an EVE organization chooses to go that route. If DUST fails obviously SOV will be resolved as it is currently (or whatever it evolves into with the next expansion).
DUST will have a direct impact on industry via Planetary Interaction materials. If DUST fails we simply don't see it affected by DUST combat, which is exactly what we have now.
CCP has managed to, for the most part, get it right for 9 years now. I tend to trust them (and the industry leaders that are looking at the DUST/EVE cross over with envious eyes) a lot more than an anonymous fella that spends his time watching his room mates play console games all day and considers himself well informed. 
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3301
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:48:00 -
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Sony has called it thier most important game to the Play Station Network so far and thankfully Sonly Online Entertainment has nothing to do with this game at all and probably NEVER will unlike every single failed SOE mmo ever.
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Herold Oldtimer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:48:00 -
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Posting to say I bought a PS 3 because of Dust 514. I also bought a playstation pluss subricption so that I can get into the beta.
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Vetrox Satria
Canadian Forces Corp
9
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:52:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Why would pc players insta win?
Good Sir
PC > Consoles.
But this really isnt the place for a, PC Fanboy versus the rest, flame war
Herold Oldtimer wrote:Posting to say I bought a PS 3 because of Dust 514.
Me too. Im just that excited. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3301
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Posted - 2012.02.27 18:54:00 -
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I am just saying why?
Considering there will be mouse and keyboard support for dust 514.
Also Confirming I have dusted off my PS3 to play Dust 514 (also that I found two games to keep me occupied, Valkaria Chronicles and Disgiea 4)
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1112
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:40:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:I am just saying why?
Considering there will be mouse and keyboard support for dust 514.
Also Confirming I have dusted off my PS3 to play Dust 514 (also that I found two games to keep me occupied, Valkaria Chronicles and Disgiea 4)
Articulation and control with mouse and keyboard are the only reasons I prefer PC over any console myself. Well that and mods that consoles can't do. Look at Skyrim for an example but that's hardly an issue for DUST. Neither is mouse and keyboard superiority since like you said the PS3 will support mouse and keyboard as will DUST. That said I have no squabling to do over it not being on PC other than the graphics could potentially be better on PC but I like the idea of everybody being on the same turf hardware wise which is something only a console can provide.
In other words it doesn't ******* matter if it is on PC or not anymore. Don't want to buy a PS3? Then your cheap ass won't be playing DUST. I for one look forward to playing EvE on my PC while I play DUST through my PS3 on my other monitor.
Going to go get more popcorn now. I have a feeling this thread is far from over...
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Vetrox Satria
Canadian Forces Corp
9
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:45:00 -
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I DID NOT KNOW I COULD USE A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD WITH DUST!!!!!!
Can i use any old usb device or do i have to get a sony approved one.
Mega wood going on right now!
All i need now is it to be in 3D and there will be some **** in my actual factual pants |
IsTheOpOver
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:45:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:
Also Confirming I have dusted off my PS3 to play Dust 514 (also that I found two games to keep me occupied, Valkaria Chronicles and Disgiea 4)
Damn you! I wish I could play Disgaea 4.. my PS3 YLOD'd over a year ago. Nippon Ichi is the best and the true reason to own a PS3.
They need to put Dust out on PSVita. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1112
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:47:00 -
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Vetrox Satria wrote:I DID NOT KNOW I COULD USE A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD WITH DUST!!!!!!
Can i use any old usb device or do i have to get a sony approved one.
Mega wood going on right now!
All i need now is it to be in 3D and there will be some **** in my actual factual pants
Pretty much any mouse and keyboard will work. I have a mouse that doesn't work on my PS3 but I think it was created sometime around the last Ice Age.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1072
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:48:00 -
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IsTheOpOver wrote:Nova Fox wrote:
Also Confirming I have dusted off my PS3 to play Dust 514 (also that I found two games to keep me occupied, Valkaria Chronicles and Disgiea 4)
Damn you! I wish I could play Disgaea 4.. my PS3 YLOD'd over a year ago. Nippon Ichi is the best and the true reason to own a PS3. They need to put Dust out on PSVita.
Then you will be a happy camper, although how much of DUST will be available on it is still unconfirmed.
Plus you can use their pointy wand thingy.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3303
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:48:00 -
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I do know USB keyboards are compatable with both xbox and ps3.
Mice I havent tried yet because well... neither of them had a game that could use a mouse until very very soon.
I will confirm any blue tooth compatable ones are going to work but I peferred mine wired.
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fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:41:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:Danfen Fenix wrote:You do realise that there are a LOT of ways that the games can be made to interacte with each other, without actually having them need each other, right? Such as, both games will have PI. The link between the two could be a market allowing players to buy & sell resources across both. As you can do PI on both games, it doesnt mean that one relies on the other, but still promotes interactivity. Same with the orbital bombardment. Neither game needs it, but its a nice little addition to add depth Edit: Also, the whole link idea is a great for CCP from a marketting perspective as well. A standard FPS has, CoD, Battlefield and a myriad of others as competition. However, AFAIK, there is no game out there with this link currently that could be competition, nor may there be for a few years to come. Simply because, how many games can you name that could have a successful, attractive idea such as this linked cross game/platform? Play WOW as an orc in first person? Players will moan that they cant do that already...and so on. For a company to become competition, either they're going to have to be very inventive, or create two more games, which gives CCP a nice lead. There's plenty of ways the games cna be related to each other yes. But not in any meaningful way by CCP's own admission. You can't link the two games in any useful way as if DUST dies, so does EvE. That is what CCP have said themselves.
no they said they would be weary and would start slowly and that's about it. all dipends on dust gameplay tbh so they can make it or break it.
edit please link me to that statment, blog or podcast. |
fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2012.02.27 20:49:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:I do know USB keyboards are compatable with both xbox and ps3.
Mice I havent tried yet because well... neither of them had a game that could use a mouse until very very soon.
I will confirm any blue tooth compatable ones are going to work but I peferred mine wired.
you could play ut3 with a mouse keyboard but due to ......whatever it didnt work very well. epicness ^^. wonder if they will still blame button lag on whatever. |
gaszy mexican
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.27 21:11:00 -
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Miss Whippy wrote:What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?
CCP addressed EvE player's concerns about what happens if DUST dies down and stops being played - I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. The statement went something along the lines of, "don't worry it won't significantly effect EvE gameplay if DUST dies."
In other words, DUST will have so little interaction with EvE that it will be almost utterly pointless from our perspective. DUST looks great and I'm sure it will join the millions of other FPS games out there in being successful for a few months, but what then?
I see two options:
1. Sever any link between DUST and EvE and make it a stand-alone game. Let's face it EvE players are never going to accept DUST players anyway, and will most likely grief the hell out of them in any possible way they can. DUST bunnies just don't know how mean things can get around here.
2. Release it on PC too. While incredibly unlikely as this seems, it WOULD address more than a few concerns.
what makes you think the dust players will give a **** if there accepted or not ? alot of them are mercs your need them in some form or another , alos there is going to be mercs in alot of corps id say that have members with ps3 so i dont see if being a issue at all.
and as the game isnt even out yet dont comment on the level of interaction between eve and dust . |
BIGTEX123
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
3
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:05:00 -
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Hmm I always seem to do better on FPS's on my consoles than PC. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
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Posted - 2012.02.28 00:01:00 -
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@ op
So basically your post comes down to it just being a whine, because DUST is not being released on the PC.
You're a few months behind the other threads like this. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
5082
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Posted - 2012.02.28 00:09:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:@ op
So basically your post comes down to it just being a whine, because DUST is not being released on the PC.
You're a few months years behind the other threads like this. There you go.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1684
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Posted - 2012.02.28 00:26:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:@ op
So basically your post comes down to it just being a whine, because DUST is not being released on the PC.
You're a few months behind the other threads like this.
It's going to be hilarious when months after Dust fails some CCP employee admits that it was because they didn't release the game for PC.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Revajin
15 Minute Outliers
Novus Dominatum
35
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:58:00 -
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CCP has only confirmed keyboard support for chat. They explicitly said no mice, though there's probably a workaround I'm sure. |
Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.02.28 03:04:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:
Oh sweet, a new and revolutionary thread I've never read before.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
745
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Posted - 2012.02.28 03:30:00 -
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Revajin wrote:CCP has only confirmed keyboard support for chat. They explicitly said no mice, though there's probably a workaround I'm sure.
You be late with wrong news.
Keyboard+mouse has been confirmed for the gameplay itself.
84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
225
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Posted - 2012.02.28 04:01:00 -
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Dust will fail GUARANTEED
watch this space
CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3311
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Posted - 2012.02.28 05:44:00 -
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Revajin wrote:CCP has only confirmed keyboard support for chat. They explicitly said no mice, though there's probably a workaround I'm sure.
You're slow thats three months old news, Combat keyboard and mouse was like 2 week ago.
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Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command
Fleet Coordination Coalition
156
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Posted - 2012.02.28 06:10:00 -
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Revajin wrote:CCP has only confirmed keyboard support for chat. They explicitly said no mice, though there's probably a workaround I'm sure.
I'm almost insulted. It's almost as if people aren't listening.
http://www.dust514base.com/2012/02/cast-514-episode-1-ccp-grand-opening.html
http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514
http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1074
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Posted - 2012.02.28 06:40:00 -
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NICE!
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Valentyn3
58
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Posted - 2012.02.28 06:47:00 -
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Stopped reading after the generalized bash on console owners.
It it difficult to get to the top of that pillar there? I figure it must be a ***** to have to pay for rocket trips or is it some kind of space elevator?
EVE why u no obey Newtonian Physics?
Sure wish I could fit med artillery on my frigate to. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg |
Sardon Darkstar
DoubleDutchClan
Apocalypse Now.
15
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Posted - 2012.02.28 08:03:00 -
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Some socio-scientists should look into this interesting chronical doomsaying. No matter what sort of game, no matter what company, there always seem to be a persistant group of people who feel this urge to go on forums to tell the world that the game is going to fail, how it's going to fail and why it's going to fail.
I bet this could be your ticket to a doctorate |
Marlakh
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
58
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Posted - 2012.02.28 08:14:00 -
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I'm very excited about Dust and the possibilities that it holds for Eve and the future of MMOFPS. I hope my fellow capsuleers like the OP can keep an open mind and evaluate the game objectively when it comes out. Certainly I see that CCP is making a great effort in maximising connectivity between both games, such as common voice/text chat, real time battle outcomes, and dedicated server architecture. KB+mouse use is just the icing on the cake, and there is a lot of game-mechanics that will be revealed only during Fanfest.
I expect numerous teething problems when Dust first comes out. Lag times, server reliability, game balancing, bugs, interface issues all threaten to tarnish the hype generated over the last few months. And most important of all, as a collective package, is it fun to play, and will the console and Eve players embrace it?
Less than a month to go before we see what CCP has been up to for the last 4 years. I can't wait! |
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