It's going to be hilarious when months after Dust fails some CCP employee admits that it was because they didn't release the game for PC.

They also dont want to release on PC, if they did they'll probably GUT the Eve player base, you dont want to slay two games at once with one flop..

They don't want people cheating with aiming bots on PC

Are there no aimbot style cheats for PS3 games?

Stopped reading after the generalized bash on console owners.

It it difficult to get to the top of that pillar there? I figure it must be a ***** to have to pay for rocket trips or is it some kind of space elevator?

The PC vs. Console fps war is the latest version of the old vs. Young fights. Older PC gamers learned how to play fps games on a keyboard and mouse before dual joystic controllers existed. Younger fps players learned how to play with dual joystic controllers. Older PC fps players try the dual joystic controllers and fail because they're used to the keyboard and mouse. Older players can't handle getting owned by these 'young punks' with their controllers and proceed to bash the younger generation.

While its true that a mouse gives you more sensitivity, in practise the extra sensitivity gives little to no advantage due to aim assist which is used in pretty much every online fps. I played several PC fps games online with an Xbox controller plugged into my PC because I'm used to a controller an not a keyboard. I never once had the impression that someone had an advantage over me because of superior mouse sensitivity.

Not really. I grew up playing FPS games on console before I ever got a PC. 007 on N64. No dual joysticks but still FPS. Then it was Halo on XBox at the same time I playef FPS games on my PC. Fact of the matter is you have faster response and better control and accuracy on a keyboard and mouse set up than you ever will with a controller. Part of this is due to how fast you can move a mouse and make the cursor on your screen move vs a controller which may be limited to a set speed of movement. Try it in just about any FPS game that is on all platforms. Modern Warfare for example. You can move your reticle on the screen faster on a PC than you can on any of the other 3 consoles. This does change a bit with things like Kinect however. I would be interested to see how a player using Kinect or whatever the PS3 version is called does against a PC player on keyboard and mouse.

... This does change a bit with things like Kinect however. I would be interested to see how a player using Kinect or whatever the PS3 version is called does against a PC player on keyboard and mouse.

I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span.

If Dust is designed well...

They are both harder to make, and easier to catch on consoles, this goes for all forms of hacking/cheating.

This is the singular most important thing that will decide the fate of the game.

Actually it's not. The game could be amazingly well made and it will still fail. It was doomed the second they decided to make it a console exclusive. It's also troubling that this far into development they still don't have a clear concept of how Eve and Dust are going to interact. They did a bunch of interviews with gaming sites over the weekend and it's obvious they are still, this far into development, trying to figure out how to mash the two games together.

actually ccp just need to time the release of DUST during the lull before the next cod blackops whatever comes out. it's not that hard to sell enough $50 boxed dvds to them console suckers to make a profit.

Actually, it being a console exclusive means you need it to fail, not that it will fail.

What? Apart from the fact that I'd need to buy a Playstation, which I've no intention of doing?

CCP addressed EvE player's concerns about what happens if DUST dies down and stops being played - I've never owned a console but I can't imagine anyone who has one has a large attention span. The statement went something along the lines of, "don't worry it won't significantly effect EvE gameplay if DUST dies."

In other words, DUST will have so little interaction with EvE that it will be almost utterly pointless from our perspective. DUST looks great and I'm sure it will join the millions of other FPS games out there in being successful for a few months, but what then?

I see two options:

1. Sever any link between DUST and EvE and make it a stand-alone game. Let's face it EvE players are never going to accept DUST players anyway, and will most likely grief the hell out of them in any possible way they can. DUST bunnies just don't know how mean things can get around here.

2. Release it on PC too. While incredibly unlikely as this seems, it WOULD address more than a few concerns.

They don't want YOU playing DUST, YOU are already paying them. They want other people to play Dust, new people, people who normally wouldn't play EVE.

You are off course welcome to play, but what they really want is people who play FPS like the idea that their actions matter and are not against DLC content. While you fly around in space creating the world for the grunts to shoot at.

All the people that are complaining about dust on these forums not being on pc should realise, they aren't the target demographic. They already have you, they want new customers.