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![Robacz Robacz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/695624998/portrait?size=64)
Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.14 21:17:00 -
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Automated API Transfers of ISK... not sure what you are asking for? Ability to do transfers without logging into game, via API? ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
API should be always only for reading data. Any ingame action must be always done by player, not by external software.
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![Robacz Robacz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/695624998/portrait?size=64)
Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.14 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Robacz API should be always only for reading data. Any ingame action must be always done by player, not by external software.
There already exists out of game external software isk transaction capabilities. It is used very heavily every day by many people. The sky hasn't fallen from this. It's known as GTC sales. Other than that, as a member of the board of directors at eBank, I support what Hexxx has said.
Well to pay for GTC you have to sign-in in your Eve Online account and authorize transfer from there. Out of game - yes, out of CCP's software - no. Besides it serves one specific purpose.
Let me rephrase my statement: no 3rd party software should be ever allowed to perform any ingame actions.
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![Robacz Robacz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/695624998/portrait?size=64)
Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.14 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Hexxx
Originally by: Robacz Automated API Transfers of ISK... not sure what you are asking for? Ability to do transfers without logging into game, via API? ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
API should be always only for reading data. Any ingame action must be always done by player, not by external software.
That is EXACTLY what I'm suggesting. Banks are inherently limited on the number of withdraws they can process manually because of the very fact it's a manual exercise.
Well everyone is limited by game client's abilities in their endeavors. You need API ISK tranfers for more effective work, producer needs API jobs installation, traders needs API market updates...
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![Robacz Robacz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/695624998/portrait?size=64)
Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.14 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Daallie
There is very little human interaction in the movement of money today. You can withdraw, deposit, transfer, money without any person having to be in an office somewhere or any human requiring to approve something. Complete automation is key in an sucessful banking system so why should we keep ourselves so limited in EVE.
I am not against automated banking. If CCP ever introduce banking tools in Eve Online client, I guess some kind of automation would be nice. Right now, there is no banking support in the client. It is all happening out of game, via 3rd party websites.
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![Robacz Robacz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/695624998/portrait?size=64)
Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.14 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Horizontal This has generated some confusion. ISK is never really taken in or out of the game. It's always held in a wallet of some description. With a GTC, the buyer has his ISK taken out of his wallet and into someone elses, with a code that verifies the transaction.
We are asking the ability for 3rd party software to give money from one player to another in game, but triggered externally.
Well then I am asking the ability for 3rd party software to update my market orders. Becouse updating them in game is too much work, like transferring ISK for your bank. Where it would end? There is a lot of annoying tasks that slow down various businesses. Should we let them all be automated via external software?
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![Robacz Robacz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/695624998/portrait?size=64)
Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.15 12:13:00 -
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So EBANK is not a business, it is more like a messiah. ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
Anyways, sooner or later you will run into RMT problem. With more users it will be easier and easier to hide RMT inside your system. CCP will have absolutely no control over it. Only available data will be from you, which means they can't be trusted (don't take that personally, but I don't think CCP can rely on data supplied by players when deciding about bans). That will be big problem.
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![Robacz Robacz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/695624998/portrait?size=64)
Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.15 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Horizontal
Originally by: Robacz So EBANK is not a business, it is more like a messiah. ![Razz](/images/icon_razz.gif)
Anyways, sooner or later you will run into RMT problem. With more users it will be easier and easier to hide RMT inside your system. CCP will have absolutely no control over it. Only available data will be from you, which means they can't be trusted (don't take that personally, but I don't think CCP can rely on data supplied by players when deciding about bans). That will be big problem.
And says who the GM's don't have access to EBANK's data? Of course we've thought about RMT ISK money laundering before, and there are mechanisms in place. What exactly these are, I will not divulge.
Your data can't be trusted. Your database is under your control and you can do whatever you want with it. CCP only know what character sent ISK to your system and what character recieved ISK from your system. What is happening with ISK within your system they don't know and can't control.
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