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Celestial Demon	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:40:00 - [1] It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:43:00 - [2] Good argument, and you're right ... trying to start a thread about a 'perceived' legitimate often results in troll responses. Its easier to insult someone than consider their point of view. Given that it is easier to remove a forum, than change troll-like attitudes, I agree your posed solution is likely the best.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:50:00 - [3] No. Crime & Punishment is a honey pot. It attracts the trolls and other pests to it. If you take it away more will invariably creep into other forums and most of those already have plenty. Let them huddle there I say.
Strak Yogorn Amarr Mind Warpers	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:51:00 - [4] just stop reading it ?
Ushatuhkwa Kaeshe	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:51:00 - [5] After looking at your post history, since I was curious about it, I have a better suggestion. Why don't you simply remove yourself from the forums? It will result in much less flaming and trolling in the end.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Ushatuhkwa Kaeshe After looking at your post history, since I was curious about it, I have a better suggestion. Why don't you simply remove yourself from the forums? It will result in much less flaming and trolling in the end. Ushatuhkwa, have you checked out the Crime and Punishment Forums yet? You should ...
Willow Whisp Sadist Faction	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:55:00 - [7] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Ushatuhkwa Kaeshe After looking at your post history, since I was curious about it, I have a better suggestion. Why don't you simply remove yourself from the forums? It will result in much less flaming and trolling in the end. Ushatuhkwa, have you checked out the Crime and Punishment Forums yet? You should ... All the time. it provides me with endless entertainment
Ushatuhkwa Kaeshe	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:55:00 - [8] Originally by: Willow Whisp Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Ushatuhkwa Kaeshe After looking at your post history, since I was curious about it, I have a better suggestion. Why don't you simply remove yourself from the forums? It will result in much less flaming and trolling in the end. Ushatuhkwa, have you checked out the Crime and Punishment Forums yet? You should ... All the time. it provides me with endless entertainment ^^ alt
Tidas Andrommeda Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:58:00 - [9] Are we talking about CAOD or Crime and Punishment? I think you may be mixing them both up... Originally by: cal nereus I like it when ships outrun missiles. It adds flavor to my soup. And by soup I mean gaming experience. And by flavor I mean "haha, you use missiles!"
Alowishus mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. We should also get rid of the General Discussion forum because my senses tell me that the same thing is going to happen to you here. Join The Muffin Factory
Tidas Andrommeda Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:02:00 - [11] Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting. The forums, you will never find a greater hive of scum and villany. [/starwars] Lets just remove the forums and make the forum ***s actually play the game they spend all day smacking about? Originally by:** cal nereus I like it when ships outrun missiles. It adds flavor to my soup. And by soup I mean gaming experience. And by flavor I mean "haha, you use missiles!"
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Celestial Demon All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. If I was having a serious problem with getting flamed in a specific forum, I doubt that I would be going back. Would I choose to rally the troops to ruin it for everyone else? Probably not. If you change your petition to be able to block people like you from specific forums, I'll sign that. The Tchell Dahhn Manifesto
Dianeces Minmatar The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Eventy One Edited by: Eventy One on 16/04/2008 18:51:54 Good argument, and you're right ... trying to start a thread about a 'perceived' legitimate concern often results in troll responses. Its easier to insult someone than consider their point of view. Given that it is easier to remove a forum, than change troll-like attitudes, I agree your posed solution is likely the best. You know why you get flamed and trolled? Because you're a **ty poaster that keeps bringing up **ty ideas. Stop sucking and that wouldn't happen as much.
flakeys Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting. Mmmm can be said bout allmost every part of these forums lately
jongalt	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:13:00 - [15] crime & punishment = the kiddie pool. -jg.
Orar Ironfist Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:13:00 - [16] Just because BOTH of your posts were horrible doesnt mean you should close a forum. It means you should never post again Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
Dianeces Minmatar The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:14:00 - [17] Originally by: Orar Ironfist Just because BOTH of your posts were horrible doesnt mean you should close a forum. It means you should never post again Just quoting this here.
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:15:00 - [18] Originally by: jongalt crime & punishment = the kiddie pool. Hey Jongalt, is the water getting warmer around you, suddenly? The Tchell Dahhn Manifesto
Roxanna Kell Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:19:00 - [19] Serious reply: No, because to petetion a forum section because its trolled, when the only one that use it are the one who love being trolled, or want to show off, or ask questions about crim and punishment, so leave it as it is. And stop being so emotional over it, wha wha, i cant take the trolls, lock it down so i can feel better. Quote: There is no Dishonor in winning fools, so do it any way you can.
Farrqua Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:32:00 - [20] Edited by: Farrqua on 16/04/2008 19:33:20 Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting. ^^Troll spotted. Stop posting...GETOUT. I think I covered the basics...yep. So post a gain so I can kick you during your "Stop,Drop and Roll" routine.
jongalt	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:33:00 - [21] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: jongalt crime & punishment = the kiddie pool. Hey Jongalt, is the water getting warmer around you, suddenly? gentlemen dont kiss & tell. -jg.
Goyda Veni Vidi Vici. XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:43:00 - [22] If the shoe fits. (and not it's not a <insertnamehere>roll) Troll
Doonoo Boonoo Amarr Hedion University	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Celestial Demon I made a silly post in C&P and got flamed. I demand C&P be closed. fixed
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:47:00 - [24] lets close all the forums!
Smantha Dering Caldari Sam's Space Guys	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:48:00 - [25] I poasts here and there so if you take away my c&p lolz I will have to find more lolz here. Since in C&P your demise is being plotted I think you should let me hold on to your stuff for safe keeping until this scandal you created blows over. I promise to give back some.
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:53:00 - [26] Originally by: Smantha Dering I promise to give back some. If it were anyone else but you, I wouldn't believe it. The Tchell Dahhn Manifesto
Tidas Andrommeda Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:56:00 - [27] I wonder if she knows that people read more than one forum.... Originally by: cal nereus I like it when ships outrun missiles. It adds flavor to my soup. And by soup I mean gaming experience. And by flavor I mean "haha, you use missiles!"
BobTeh mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:56:00 - [28] Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=750766 Ok this is what he posted WTF did you expect he posted this in C&P you expect people not to troll GET A LIFE o yeah i put a 2 million bounty on everyone of you corpses gl hf My opinion is my own dont take it!
Faife Blackrain Solutions Twilight Trade Cartel	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:02:00 - [29] i like c&p, let's me fill up my "red" list.
Shadow Joy	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:02:00 - [30] OP: Doc it hurts when I do this. Doc: Don't do that. OP: I'd rather complain and try to make sure that nobody else can do it in the future.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:04:00 - [31] Yes but without C&P how will we know who pwnd teh most newbz kekekeke On occasion a comedy kill posted there easily makes the C&P forum worth keeping.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:08:00 - [32] Edited by: DubanFP on 16/04/2008 20:10:18 Crime & punishment is a place where pirates can be pirates. It's a place where PVPers can post their attitudes where they don't have to worry about "you're a jerk for playing the game differently then me" posts. The tough luck attitude prevails there even more then it does in the rest of the forums. It's a great place to relax & tell or listen to stories of whiners with paper thin skin. The kind that can't accept that our life doesn't include consideration for yours. It's great for that. Go in there against that pirates be pirate, tough luck rule, and you're pretty much disrespecting the attitudes of the players there. Go in there, accept that they prefer not to show mercy, and you'll get you're respect. Otherwise you get what you deserve. Now if you want to see a REAL cesspool where even non-insulting posts get trolled you should go see CAOD forum. It's actually a lot better then it was a couple months ago since Goonswarm's let up on the attacks recently, but it's still very hostile. _______________ ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR
Tchell Dahhn Amarr Deny Reality	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:12:00 - [33] Originally by: DubanFP stuff The Y'arr be strong in this one! The Tchell Dahhn Manifesto
Wu Jiun State War Academy	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:21:00 - [34] Just rename it into "Crime and NO punishment!". Problem solved, everybody happy.
Lord Rue Gallente GenX Societies Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:35:00 - [35] Quote: Crime & punishment is a place where pirates can be pirates. It's a place where PVPers can post their attitudes where they don't have to worry about "you're a jerk for playing the game differently then me" posts. The tough luck attitude prevails there even more then it does in the rest of the forums. It's a great place to relax & tell or listen to stories of whiners with paper thin skin. The kind that can't accept that our life doesn't include consideration for yours. It's great for that. Go in there against that pirates be pirate, tough luck rule, and you're pretty much disrespecting the attitudes of the players there. Go in there, accept that they prefer not to show mercy, and you'll get you're respect. Otherwise you get what you deserve. This. /thread
Alowishus mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:39:00 - [36] Originally by: Wu Jiun Just rename it into "Crime and NO punishment!". Problem solved, everybody happy. Nice random whine insertion.
Wu Jiun State War Academy	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:42:00 - [37] Originally by: Alowishus Originally by: Wu Jiun Just rename it into "Crime and NO punishment!". Problem solved, everybody happy. Nice random whine insertion. wtf are you talking about?
Dr Locke Caldari Fray RnD	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:45:00 - [38] Crime & Punishment "A forum for bounty hunters and their prey." doesn't quite fit.
Capitan Santiago	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:46:00 - [39] I see lots of crime and punishment coming Celestial Demon's way.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:51:00 - [40] Originally by: Dr Locke Crime & Punishment "A forum for bounty hunters and their prey." doesn't quite fit. lots of prey, not so many bounty hunters oh and the prey is usually veloceraptors, where as the hunters are bunnies with rubber mallets
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:54:00 - [41] Nothing hurts more than getting ganked by a bunny wielding an easter pink rubber mallet.
Quelque Chose Gallente	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:55:00 - [42] Nowhere in all the galaxy will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. You must be cautious.
Laura Steel The Chaotic Order Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:58:00 - [43] To paraphrase something you said; Quote: if you don't like that forum TOUGH %^& no ones making you read it
Doonoo Boonoo Amarr Hedion University	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:59:00 - [44] C&P does NOT mean Cry and Pontificate.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.04.16 21:01:00 - [45] Originally by: Quelque Chose Nowhere in all the galaxy will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. You must be cautious. Hehe. That should be whats under the C&P header. Crime and Punishment: "Nowhere in all the galaxy will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
Quelque Chose Gallente	Posted - 2008.04.16 21:02:00 - [46] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Quelque Chose Nowhere in all the galaxy will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. You must be cautious. Hehe. That should be whats under the C&P header. Crime and Punishment: "Nowhere in all the galaxy will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." He doesn't like you. I don't like you either!
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.04.16 21:11:00 - [47] Originally by: Quelque Chose Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Quelque Chose Nowhere in all the galaxy will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. You must be cautious. Hehe. That should be whats under the C&P header. Crime and Punishment: "Nowhere in all the galaxy will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." He doesn't like you. I don't like you either! /me tosses an old man with a lightsaber at Quelque Chose.
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.04.16 21:25:00 - [48] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h No. Crime & Punishment is a honey pot. It attracts the trolls and other pests to it. If you take it away more will invariably creep into other forums and most of those already have plenty. Let them huddle there I say. This. C+P occupies them, so that they don't infect other forums
Ki An Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum	Posted - 2008.04.16 21:38:00 - [49] infects forum Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2008.04.16 22:40:00 - [50] Originally by: Ki An infects forum I heard there was some whine... so I brought the cheese A Pirates Perspective
MirrorGod Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.04.16 22:52:00 - [51] Originally by: Elles D go, die, fire, now ^this
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2008.04.17 00:20:00 - [52] Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting. /signed Exactly why I stopped posting there tbh
Allen Ramses Caldari Typo Corp	Posted - 2008.04.17 00:32:00 - [53] Originally by: Elles D go, die, fire, now tl;dr ____________________ Pimped out Raven to run level 4 missions quickly: 210 Mil ISK. Realizing your 120 Mil ISK Drake gets the job done faster: Priceless.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam	Posted - 2008.04.17 00:34:00 - [54] C&P dosen't seem that bad actually. It's not one of the better forum sections, but miles and miles above the troll cage that is CAOD. ...
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.17 03:22:00 - [55] Eh, some good info can be had there sometimes. Sifting through the self-aggrandisement and e-p33ning to get to it is sometimes a bore.
Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2008.04.17 03:48:00 - [56] Complaining about something/someone is generally not a very diplomatic way of communicating. So don't expect moderate anwers, especially not in a MMOG forum. Stating that your complaint is legitimate will make things even worse.
Kumq uat Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.17 04:26:00 - [57] NO! C&P is one of the only places I actually read. Stupid carebear.
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.04.17 04:33:00 - [58] Go read C+P.... they're bidding on the OP's head as we speak
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.04.17 06:14:00 - [59] Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting. Remove General Discussion.
Icycle Malevolent Intentions Kaos Empire	Posted - 2008.04.17 06:29:00 - [60] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting. Remove General Discussion. /signed
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.04.17 07:12:00 - [61] Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 17/04/2008 07:12:27 I just read your original C+P post. Last time I checked failure to purchase a contracted item is not a crime. You seem to have been punished for posting about....gasp...nothing . It would appear you are a glutton for it .
Jack Brazen SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.04.17 07:16:00 - [62] I honestly have no idea what this topic is even about? Is this a serious thread? Is someone really suggesting that we remove a forum, because it displeases them? Hell, I've never been a fan of people selling stuff or trading stuff, or for that matter discussing politics. To be honest, I'd rather no one discussed anything BUT C&P matters, so I say remove every other forum. That's about as reasonable as what the OP is suggesting. Am I missing something here, or is this just a reaaaaally bad thread about a reaaaaally bad idea, that came after receiving scorn for some reaaaaaally bad posting by the OP?
Zorai Miraden Gallente East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.17 07:32:00 - [63] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h No. Crime & Punishment is a honey pot. It attracts the trolls and other pests to it. If you take it away more will invariably creep into other forums and most of those already have plenty. Let them huddle there I say. In my experience General Discussion always had the most trolls. Granted C&P wasn't that far behind. Recruitment Thread EKT Website
1Evildude Gallente We Come In Peace	Posted - 2008.04.17 09:33:00 - [64] Edited by: 1Evildude on 17/04/2008 09:34:55 Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting. I've tried to write something constructive, but only thing I can come up with is........ HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHHHHAAAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHA! Edit: Had to add a couple of more HAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!'s * Of all the things I've lost, I miss my boot.ini file the most *
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.04.17 10:08:00 - [65] Edited by: SoftRevolution on 17/04/2008 10:11:31 Originally by: Celestial Demon It seems whoever posts there is trolled and flamed, Even when posting completely on topic and having a legitimate complaint. All it does is give unwanted trolls a place to fester and harass people. I see nothing productive at all from this forums existing. People that are new are lead to believe its a place to complain about immoral things that happened to them and then get kicked when there down after posting. You are a moron. You make posts of **. Insulting you is an important part of maintaining community standards. Do you see what happened in C&P? You made a stupid post/weak troll-post, people insulted you and now you won't go back. Where is the problem? Shaddap you face. EVE RELATED CONTENT**
Skyr Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.17 13:24:00 - [66] The forum exist to contain most of Eve moronity there. Do not remove it.
Efdi Minmatar Research Unlimited	Posted - 2008.04.17 13:32:00 - [67] Originally by: Skyr The forum exist to contain most of Eve moronity there. Do not remove it. Then why aren't you posting there?
Salliene Gallente Wraiths Reborn Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.17 13:46:00 - [68] A summary for those just tuning in: Original Poster wanted to sell some loot in game, and some dude said he would buy it, 20 minutes later the guy didn't buy the loot and blocked the Original Poster. ... Okay, now that you have had time to recover from that horrific tale of crime and betrayal, let's move on. Original Poster takes this story to Crime and Punishment, and those villains laughed at her. That's right THEY LAUGHED at a poor soul who had just been BLOCKED and who had to wait 20 MINUTES!!! Now Original Poster has come to this forum, seeking out some sweet justice from the powers that be. One Girls Journey through the EVE Universe
SlappyBag Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.17 13:53:00 - [69] Quickly, shut down Eve Online, we can stop this kind of thing if we turn it into a single player game, then people won't talk and upset Celestial Demon!
Ensa Rai	Posted - 2008.04.18 05:48:00 - [70] Originally by: Skyr The forum exist to contain most of Eve moronity there. Do not remove it. I am agree, they are not the same of when you are fighting. When moronity rules, man walks loudly. durka... p.s. OP is a tool
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.04.18 05:54:00 - [71] Originally by: Skyr The forum exist to contain most of Eve moronity there. Do not remove it. Says the guy from RAZOR Alliance...

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